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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 12:32pm On Dec 01, 2015
Mourinholic:

Are u daring Abra??

Jose just needs to pick up the phone...That's all
Not like he is going to be a regular
Mind you, you can only buy the players we don't need. We are not those EPL teams you snatch players from. We sell players we are already tired of to you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 12:33pm On Dec 01, 2015
Chrisley024, We din't win the league dat season, but we mounted a serious title challenge, we finished that season without a trophy after loosing out the league to city with goal difference
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Meanwhile dis arguement na waste of time, no man.utd fan go tell you say gerrard is the better player, just like a madrid fan would tell you ronaldo is the better player(when compared to leo)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 12:37pm On Dec 01, 2015
What could be the punishment for Costa's disrespectful bib antics?

Personally, I see him starting against Bournemouth this weekend.

It's a game we should easily win, hence we have to throw all we've got at them.

I'll love to read your opinions on the issue.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 12:45pm On Dec 01, 2015
weedtaker:
Chrisley024, We din't win the league dat season, but we mounted a serious title challenge, we finished that season without a trophy after loosing out the league to city with goal difference
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Meanwhile dis arguement na waste of time, no man.utd fan go tell you say gerrard is the better player, just like a madrid fan would tell you ronaldo is the better player(when compared to leo)
He joined midway into the season.

I've not even rated any higher but issue here is when some want to do that based solely on goals and assists and some professional bodies awards when we know these things can be arguable.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chestar5(f): 12:47pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:
What could be the punishment for Costa's disrespectful bib antics?

Personally, I see him starting against Bournemouth this weekend.

It's a game we should easily win, hence we have to throw all we've got at them.

I'll love to read your opinions on the issue.

he should play,

it was an harmless throw to mecheesy and dat game is a must win....

I see no reason y we cant b in top 10 before next year angry.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 12:50pm On Dec 01, 2015
Bournemouth defence na basket, i expect Ik3b3 supeR to end his goal drought against them. (would be more possible if he plays as a striker)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:55pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
Scholes had technical ability, especially in controlling the tempo of the game, up there with Xavi and Pirlo while Gerrard is more of a post to post midfielder. I'm sure Xavi wouldn't be highly rated if not the success of Barca/Spain tiki-taka style of play. I personally rate these midfielders very high.

Gerrard still played in the middle for England and we saw how it fared.

It can still be argued Gerrard was a big fish in small pond.

It will remain debatable depending on what you prefer from a midfielder or the type of midfielder you use as the yardstick.

It could be debatable but every debate has a winner.

At England, Scholes was pushed out wide to accommodate Gerrard in the middle. That's one example of an industry insider picking Gerrard over Scholes.

Scholes himself retired under the age of 30 after playing several games on the wing. He did not back himself to ever regain his position in the centre due to how good Lampard and Gerrard were at the time, even though no success would eventually come of that pairing

Gerrard was voted into the PFA team of the year 8 times. Scholes only once. PFA team of the year votes are only available to Premier League Players. That's the second example of Scholes local colleagues picking Gerrard over him.

Gerrard has been voted into the FIFPro world XI 3 times. Scholes has never smelt it. The FIFPro voting is only open to professional footballers. That's the 3rd example of Scholes international colleagues picking Gerrard over him. It's alright for them Xavi and co to drop some nice quotes about him, but did they back their quotes with their votes? cheesy

Controlling possession is a nice trait to have as a footballer and midfielder, but possession is not the be all and end all of football, otherwise Carrick would be a Balon D'or contestant.

When it comes down to it, the numbers favour Gerrard. The professionals who played alongside and against both players favour Gerrard. The coach who managed both players favoured Gerrard. Even Scholes Manager at club level tried to buy Gerrard!

In my opinion Yakubu Aiyegbeni was the greatest striker in his prime. Doesn't make him better than De Lima.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 1:01pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
spare me that 'playing with average joes', he was a big fish in small pond and might as well have been swallowed in a team with top players grin

This is a baseless conjecture. Common sense should inform you that playing for a better team would by all means improve a player.

Gerrard wouldn't have to worry about some responsibilities had it been he was at Manyoo. He'll have the chance to express himself more and play towards attaining a legendary status.

chrisley024:
what did he win when he had the best attack in the league?

Istanbul glory is all you need.

He won the the holy grail with s****s like Smicer and Milan Baros.

chrisley024:
Scholes was the architect of last minutes points picked by United. What's the number one job of a midfielder if not to string passes.

By only stringing passes together you'll be seen as every other midfielder. You're considered special when you're doing something other than just stringing passes together. Overall game play bruh!

There's a reason Cesc isn't highly rated despite being a super pass master.

chrisley024:
Scholes came out of retirement and helped his team to clinch the title while Gerrard fumbled to end his team's hope of getting one. grin

This na blatant lie cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:05pm On Dec 01, 2015
lekkie073:

http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/2377/top-10/2010/05/23/1925793/top-10-teams-to-win-the-treble
since cska Moscow and Porto is there, raumdueter should carry placard and tell Porto that it is not treble
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhellake: 1:24pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:
What could be the punishment for Costa's disrespectful bib antics?

Personally, I see him starting against Bournemouth this weekend.

It's a game we should easily win, hence we have to throw all we've got at them.

I'll love to read your opinions on the issue.


IMO, Nigger should remain on the bench for two more games

Just one season and he is already seeing himself like some overlord, it's Bournemouth, even Kenedy can start up front
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:31pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
He joined midway into the season.

I've not even rated any higher but issue here is when some want to do that based solely on goals and assists and some professional bodies awards when we know these things can be arguable.
if scholes surpass gerrard with assist, goals and individual awards that's what you would've being using against the later by now. Gerrard is better than scholes in all ramification except maybe throwing long passes. Gerrard got leadership skills unlike schole who act wierd when things are not going his way. Club sentiment aside, we should be objective when analyzing game of football. One of the reason I'm a football fan before being a club fan.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:31pm On Dec 01, 2015
Dhellake:


IMO, Nigger should remain on the bench for two more games

Just one season and he is already seeing himself like some overlord, it's Bournemouth, even Kenedy can start up front

Whisper it quietly but I even prefer Hazard upfront.

Though Costa is likely to score his obligatory goal against bottom feeder teams of he starts. I'm already tired of the old man
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 1:36pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:
What could be the punishment for Costa's disrespectful bib antics?

Personally, I see him starting against Bournemouth this weekend.

It's a game we should easily win, hence we have to throw all we've got at them.

I'll love to read your opinions on the issue.

Not even bench. . Train with under21's

He's acting like a spoilt baby because there's no competition for his place and he knows Falcao and Remy are not trusted byy mourinho.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SailorXY: 1:36pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:


This is a baseless conjecture. Common sense should inform you that playing for a better team would by all means improve a player.

Gerrard wouldn't have to worry about some responsibilities had it been he was at Manyoo. He'll have the chance to express himself more and play towards attaining a legendary status.

Istanbul glory is all you need.

He won the the holy grail with s****s like Smicer and Milan Baros.

By only stringing passes together you'll be seen as every other midfielder. You're considered special when you're doing something other than just stringing passes together. Overall game play bruh!

There's a reason Cesc isn't highly rated despite being a super pass master.
This na blatant lie cheesy
Gerrard was an asset & liability in equal measure to Liverpool.
His gaffes almost balances out his positive contribution hence no great of the game eulogize his skill-set.
Even when Scholes' strength gave in, he rarely contributed negatively to United's cause.
The English hardly bring through technical players, so there are no surprises kick-&-follows like Lampard & Gerrard are favored. A striker like Emile Heskey will bench van Nistelrooy in the English National team.

When you imagine the time it took for England's manager & FA to recognize the qualities of a Micheal Carrick, then *in Morinho's voice* only in England.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:39pm On Dec 01, 2015
SailorXY:

Gerrard was an asset & liability in equal measure to Liverpool.
His gaffes almost balances out his positive contribution hence no great of the game eulogize his skill-set.
Even when Scholes' strength gave in, he rarely contributed negatively to United's cause.
The English hardly bring through technical players, so there are no surprises kick-&-follows like Lampard & Gerrard are favored. A striker like Emile Heskey will bench van Nistelrooy in the English National team.

When you imagine the time it took for England's manager & FA to recognize the qualities of a Micheal Carrick, then *in Morinho's voice* only in England.

Lampard is Kick and Follow?

Don't even go there....

We are still managing to compare Scholes and Gerrard cheesy

Lampard is Scholes Daddy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 1:40pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:


This is a baseless conjecture. Common sense should inform you that playing for a better team would by all means improve a player.

Gerrard wouldn't have to worry about some responsibilities had it been he was at Manyoo. He'll have the chance to express himself more and play towards attaining a legendary status.



Istanbul glory is all you need.

He won the the holy grail with s****s like Smicer and Milan Baros.



By only stringing passes together you'll be seen as every other midfielder. You're considered special when you're doing something other than just stringing passes together. Overall game play bruh!

There's a reason Cesc isn't highly rated despite being a super pass master.



This na blatant lie cheesy
very funny how some claim Gerrard single handedly dragged liverpool to the champions league. A myth that was made up by the english media.

Luis Garcia scored THREE more goals in liverpools CL campaign than Gerrard but for some reason he didn't get the title of "carrying" liverpool to the CL.

Dudek saved three penalties in the final but for some reason he didn't get the title of "carrying liverpool" to the CL.
Hamman and Alonso all had better games than Mr Gerrard but again they didn't get this title infact Hamman made the difference. Truth is Gerrard has only ever once dragged liverpool to anything special and that was in the FA Cup final against Westham. They have always had a few class players in the mix of Mascherano, Alonso, Hamman, Dudek etc so please STOP giving him such an undeserved title of "carrying them"

Very hilarious you brought Fabregas that goes missing in matches into this.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dongorgon5(m): 1:44pm On Dec 01, 2015
Griffon:
What could be the punishment for Costa's disrespectful bib antics?

Personally, I see him starting against Bournemouth this weekend.

It's a game we should easily win, hence we have to throw all we've got at them.

I'll love to read your opinions on the issue.
Costa should sit on the bench or even dropped to reserve team,so that the Twa*t will learn in a hard way.
We will beat bournemouth with solanke upfront.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 1:45pm On Dec 01, 2015
SailorXY:

Gerrard was an asset & liability in equal measure to Liverpool.
His gaffes almost balances out his positive contribution hence no great of the game eulogize his skill-set.
Even when Scholes' strength gave in, he rarely contributed negatively to United's cause.
The English hardly bring through technical players, so there are no surprises kick-&-follows like Lampard & Gerrard are favored. A striker like Emile Heskey will bench van Nistelrooy in the English National team.

When you imagine the time it took for England's manager & FA to recognize the qualities of a Micheal Carrick, then *in Morinho's voice* only in England.
players like Xavi and Pirlo would be benched in England squad since they're of small stature and lack speed.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:45pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
very funny how some claim Gerrard single handedly dragged liverpool to the champions league. A myth that was made up by the english media.

Luis Garcia scored THREE more goals in liverpools CL campaign than Gerrard but for some reason he didn't get the title of "carrying" liverpool to the CL.

Dudek saved three penalties in the final but for some reason he didn't get the title of "carrying liverpool" to the CL.
Hamman and Alonso all had better games than Mr Gerrard but again they didn't get this title infact Hamman made the difference. Truth is Gerrard has only ever once dragged liverpool to anything special and that was in the FA Cup final against Westham. They have always had a few class players in the mix of Mascherano, Alonso, Hamman, Dudek etc so please STOP giving him such an undeserved title of "carrying them"

Very hilarious you brought Fabregas that goes missing in matches into this.

They are talking about that night in Istanbul.

I wonder if you watched that match. It wasn't English Media that give him the man of the match though...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 1:45pm On Dec 01, 2015
Gerrard vs Scholes?

Gerrard abeg. He's a more complete player with more skill sets and ability to be utilised.
Scholes is a great player ....no doubt. . . but not being able to play in more positions and doing more for the team than just controlling the midfield and spreading pinpoint long passes is his only defect.

If we put up a pole, Gerrard got the votes of majority of the neutrals. . That's what i think anyway.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 1:48pm On Dec 01, 2015
Nihilist:


They are talking about that night in Istanbul.

I wonder if you watched that match. It wasn't English Media that give him the man of the match though...
one match out of a tournament?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:53pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
one match out of a tournament?
Do you know what it takes to inspire your team to a win after being 3-0 down at half-time.

Moreso in a UCL final?

That was the biggest game of the year, and Gerrard showed why he was the ultimate big game player.

That is just one example in a long list of many games where Gerrard took absolute charge of a game.

Can you even think of one game where Scholes had a similar effect?

It's the reason why Gerrard has more individual awards than Scholes
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:58pm On Dec 01, 2015
Mourinholic:

The funny thing is those players fit Barca like mad......Especially Thiago, Bellerin is also a crazy Barca-made player.....


I see us making those mistakes

It will be a disaster having Thiago and rafinha in the same team. They both have same internal problem inherited from their father. Regarding bellerin, it was a mistake sale. Barca is very used to that. They sure know how to dispose players who in turn becomes great guys

I doubt reberto would leave. He is an Enrique product plus he is versatile and he has been there for Barca all season long. He would only rotate his players more and the pogba deal might not see the light of the day.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lalaboi(m): 2:02pm On Dec 01, 2015
FIFA World XI Nominations
Gerrard 8
Lampard 8
Scholes 2

FIFA World XI Appearances
Gerrard 3
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

UEFA Team of the Year Appearances
Gerrard 3
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

UEFA Player of the year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Highest FIFA World Player of the Year Finish
Lampard 2nd – one time
Gerrard never in top 3, but very close
Scholes nowhere near top 3

Highest Ballon D’or Finish
Lampard 2nd – one time
Gerrard 3rd – one time
Scholes nowhere near top 3

Premier League Team of the Year Appearances
Gerrard 8
Lampard 5
Scholes 2

Premier League Player of the Month Awards
Gerrard 6
Lampard 4
Scholes 4

Premier League Young Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Journalists’ and Writers’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

Players’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Fans’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 2
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

England National Team Player of the Year
Gerrard 2
Lampard 2
Scholes 0

UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

FA Cup Final Man of the Match
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

Source:
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/22487/gerrard-vs-lampard-vs-scholes-very-interesting-read

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:03pm On Dec 01, 2015
lordfalcao:
since cska Moscow and Porto is there, raumdueter should carry placard and tell Porto that it is not treble

I agree they won goal. Com treble or even ikebe super magazine treble but according to uefa they didn't win any treble

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 2:08pm On Dec 01, 2015
Nihilist:

Do you know what it takes to inspire your team to a win after being 3-0 down at half-time.

Moreso in a UCL final?

That was the biggest game of the year, and Gerrard showed why he was the ultimate big game player.

That is just one example in a long list of many games where Gerrard took absolute charge of a game.

Can you even think of one game where Scholes had a similar effect?

It's the reason why Gerrard has more individual awards than Scholes

okay. Most important game of the year.

Dayo used the same logic for Boateng against Terry and you all disagreed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 2:11pm On Dec 01, 2015
lalaboi:

Not even bench. . Train with under21's

He's acting like a spoilt baby because there's no competition for his place and he knows Falcao and Remy are not trusted byy mourinho.

Dhellake:


IMO, Nigger should remain on the bench for two more games

Just one season and he is already seeing himself like some overlord, it's Bournemouth, even Kenedy can start up front

Dongorgon5:
Costa should sit on the bench or even dropped to reserve team,so that the Twa*t will learn in a hard way.

We will beat bournemouth with solanke upfront.

It's obvious Jose doesn't trust either Remy or even freaking Falcao, so is that going to see us stick with the conservative false 9 tactics we deployed against Spurs?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 2:12pm On Dec 01, 2015
lalaboi:
FIFA World XI Nominations
Gerrard 8
Lampard 8
Scholes 2

FIFA World XI Appearances
Gerrard 3
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

UEFA Team of the Year Appearances
Gerrard 3
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

UEFA Player of the year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Highest FIFA World Player of the Year Finish
Lampard 2nd – one time
Gerrard never in top 3, but very close
Scholes nowhere near top 3

Highest Ballon D’or Finish
Lampard 2nd – one time
Gerrard 3rd – one time
Scholes nowhere near top 3

Premier League Team of the Year Appearances
Gerrard 8
Lampard 5
Scholes 2

Premier League Player of the Month Awards
Gerrard 6
Lampard 4
Scholes 4

Premier League Young Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Journalists’ and Writers’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

Players’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 1
Lampard 0
Scholes 0

Fans’ Premier League Player of the Year
Gerrard 2
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

England National Team Player of the Year
Gerrard 2
Lampard 2
Scholes 0

UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

FA Cup Final Man of the Match
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match
Gerrard 1
Lampard 1
Scholes 0

Source:
https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/22487/gerrard-vs-lampard-vs-scholes-very-interesting-read
Gerrard is better than Lampard
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:17pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
okay. Most important game of the year.

Dayo used the same logic for Boateng against Terry and you all disagreed

We all disagreed because we could point to Terry's superior individual honours list...and the fact that FIFA official website did not give the MOTM award to Alago.

Go back and read the argument again. This was your fellow Manyoo fan o:

Dadehmola:


Individual honors..

John Terry

FIFA worldcup TOTT 2006

FIFPRO world eleven 2005, 2006,2007,2009

UEFA club football best defender 2005,2008,2009

UEFA TOTY 2005,2007,2008,2009

........................................................

Alago Boateng

Fritz -Walter-medal U19 bronze medal 2009 (which competition be this Abeg ?? grin)

Dayomumu, can you see that the Boateng/terry comparison is a very fôôlish one??

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:22pm On Dec 01, 2015
SailorXY:

His gaffes almost balances out his positive contribution hence no great of the game eulogize his skill-set.

Sometimes i just wonder what you man utd fans smoke before typing rubbish in this section. Go and read what players like zidane, maldini, casillas, De rossi, ronaldo and co said about gerrard. Even your alex ferguson said at a time stevie was the most influential player in epl. He even hustled to sign him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 2:24pm On Dec 01, 2015
SailorXY how can you say Lampard na "kick and follow"?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 2:25pm On Dec 01, 2015
chrisley024:
okay. Most important game of the year.

Dayo used the same logic for Boateng against Terry and you all disagreed

Wrong. We all disagreed because it's quite silly to use a single game as the sole criterion in judging who's better between two players.

In the case of Gerrard/Scholes, we're using every available fact and evidence not just a game.

We've reviewed both players' personal honors, legendary moments, and significant impacts, it's glaring clear G shits on the retired albino.

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