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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by LordAdam: 12:50am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


I'm just seeing this your reply sef.

Abeg stop being hateful. Which court order did he flout? Did you also protest when Mbu under GEJ relegated a sitting governor to a house wife? Did you protest when soldiers under GEJ seized newspapers and beat up newspaper employees? I hope that negligence of yours is hunting you as we type now? Tompolo must flout orders na.....he's a thug and militant who can't help himself and it's left for the govt to bring him to order.





@the bold cheesy cheesy i wonder why you didn't tell GEJ when he almost blocked our ears with Kuan Yew did it, Jonathan is doing it sing song. Was he confused?

You don't even need to tell me....GEJ CAN NEVER be Lee Kuan Yew if you give him a million years. He's too weak and fearful to even try cheesy

[s]So you want Singaporeans to just enter the streets and start demonstrating even without a need to?[/s] shocked




@the bold, be patient.....my birth certificate will soon arrive at your doorstep cool

[s]As for the remainder of your rants, they make no sense my dear.[/s]

Cheers


Too many reasons to stop replying you. Keep it up mate, reality will soon hit you like a sledgehammer.

-Lord

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 5:27am On Jan 16, 2016
LordAdam:


Too many reasons to stop replying you. Keep it up mate, reality will soon hit you like a sledgehammer.

-Lord

No problems with that bro. Same thing happened with GEJ. I'll simply dust up my PVC and ambush him in 2019.
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 6:18am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


Are you serious?? I'll check up to read for myself.

Countless folks have insulted Buhari and haven't been arrested so i wonder why this guy's own will be special.

I'll check my bro
Please do

http://www.orderpaper.ng/lassa-fever-minister-blames-jonathan-says-vaccine-tested/

This is madness! Propaganda and blame shifting does not execute policies. Under a minister, lassa fever is killing more than Ebola which is more virulent and yet the administration he is blaming contained it and contained ebola in a world class fashion.

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 6:32am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


I wish he will agree to implement it.

But i wish the more that GEJ had done it before he left....That way we wouldn't have been at the mercy of the daura cattle rearer my friend loves to hate cry

However until then, the law enforcement agencies under Buhari and with the advice of erudite lawyers like Osinbajo, Sagay, Odekunle etc are getting a step ahead of the crooks and their corrupt lawyers. Under the circumstances, we'll manage it like that cheesy
One thing I hated so much and i still hate is the use of court injunctions to Arrow justice just like Peter odili. However, what I hate more is ridiculing the court when it suits by refusing to obey court Judgement when it does not suit.

Metuh is remanded in prison custody and DSS/EFCC are happy but if he was granted bail, they would have concocted another useless charge to arrest him and hold him down.

It does not help our Judiciary when they are made to believe they must dance to the tune of the Executive
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 7:28am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


@the bold, i always laugh when i hear you say that. So Dasuki was funding Buhari's campaign right? I guess you also believe Diezani gave Buhari some money towards his election? my friend, i have no comment on this particular line of thought you've adopted wink

Will you see anything wrong if Buhari repeats LKY's statement below?

The $300K he gave to him was for what? he was a saboteur. One of the first statements he made was that APC was not being fair to him. He said he had intels that would have been against them but he refused to act on them. Who does that? The so called APC guy that EFCC arrested who allegedly returned N100m, has not been jailed. Why? N100m was from Dasuki or not?

"I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today"
Every government is accused of that. GEJ's government was accused of phone tapping and so on. Every government interfere with privacy to extent. Buhari is ridiculing the Judiciary




It's not my fault or Buhari's fault that the constitution demands no more than a School Cert to qualify for President. It's also not Buhari's fault or my fault that Section 318 of the constitution also equates primary school leaving cert with Secondary school cert. I don't know how many Nigerians can produce a certificate they obtained in 1953.


Everyone will and those who cannot can get a reprint. At least Cambridge hinted that they could release information on that if he authorized them which he refused to do. BTW, are you insinuating that when you turn 72 that you won't know where you School cert is?


cheesy cheesy

The puppet you were so sure would repeal the anti-gay law at Obama's request right? cheesy
I can remember saying that. I did not think he would do that. What I believed he would do has all be done. he has rversed the auto policy for instance, the PIB is resting in peace etc

The puppet who sought to embarrass Britain by kidnapping Dikko under the nose of British Intelligence right?[b][/b]With the help an Isreali mechinery, any government can be embarrassed. But APC went over drive because it was rumoured GEJ involved mechinaries in Boko war

What did you say when he called the bluff of JP MORGAN and their index? What have you been saying since he's stubbornly refused to allow our currency to be devalued as all the international agencies controlled by the same Americans have been 'advising'? My friend, Buhari is nobody's puppet. Better than GEJ who was a puppet to PEJ, DIEZANI, DASUKI etc wink
What did IMF come to Nigeria to do? IMF just told Buhari that they will send a team of experts to look into your budget if it is eventually found. She told them in plain terms, this is bollocks.. That is not my point. Ignoring JPM index did not prevent international business men from working with it. You are aware of the amount of funds that has left the system and those that changed direction. GE health wasnted to invest $40 billion in Nigeria. Their plan was to set up by July, his delay made them shift to September, then November and now it is almost not talked about. He refused to devalue the naira but naira sells $305/$ because of his policy. He has been forced to reverse the no dollar deposit policy anyway. he is a puppet and he is still being manipulated. Watch it, he will sign the EU-Africa treaty ( I pray he does not). It was one of the reasons they turned against GEJ because the refusal runs against the raw material initiative. Do you know why they banned the exportation of beans and some other commodities? It is manipulation. Before the lift the ban as they will do this year, they demand that he signs the treaty. They don't want to take chances and I am sure he will bend over backwards and get rammed. The autopolicy does not favour the US. After Wheat which makes up 25% of Nigeria imports from the US, the next is used vehicles at 21% (2011 figures) The cost of wheat import in 2011 was $1.2 billion. By 2013, GEj had reduced importation from the US by 38.8%. Wheat importation was considerably affected. Cost of wheat import went down to $962 million. Guess what, the cost of vehicles imported went up to $1.3 billion. You know that is very true. that's a market, the US was not ready to also lose and with the Agric revolution under the bow tie minister, Wheat importation wet further down. With the Autopolicy, your guess is as good as mine. Buahri has reversed the gains. Ban on rice importation by GEJ and the immediate reversal by your oga?

See your model democrat, LKY again in his oratorical gloryWhere did I say he is my model democrat?

"Freedom of the press, freedom of the news media, must be subordinated to the overriding needs of the integrity of Singapore, and to the primacy of purpose of an elected government."
[color=#006600]If you did not have freedom of the press, you would not have won the election. And like I said, the same tool will be different in different hands


"If you can’t force or are unwilling to force your people to follow you, with or without threats, you are not a leader."

"I always tried to be correct, not politically correct."
[/color]

Do you think Buhari is allowed to say any of the above?
He is not qualified to wear the shoes of LKY. LKY used unothodox methods with his brainand it worked. Buhari has no plan and he is an outright dictator and a sectionalist and like many dictators, he reasons with his anus.
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/nigeria/487468/pdfs/April%20Trade%20Fact%20Sheet%202012.pdf
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/africa/west-africa/nigeria

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 7:50am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:
One thing I hated so much and i still hate is the use of court injunctions to Arrow justice just like Peter odili. However, what I hate more is ridiculing the court when it suits by refusing to obey court Judgement when it does not suit.

Metuh is remanded in prison custody and DSS/EFCC are happy but if he was granted bail, they would have concocted another useless charge to arrest him and hold him down.

It does not help our Judiciary when they are made to believe they must dance to the tune of the Executive


I see no case of the judiciary dancing to the tune of the executive in Metuh's case. Were u expecting the judge to give accelerated bail hearing because its Metuh? The law says EFCC have 5 days to respond and he must wait for the 5 days.

I guess you and I hate different things then. I hate the Odili case more than any other. I hate big men who steal with impunity then turn round to frustrate justice hiding under rule of law.

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 8:13am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


I see no case of the judiciary dancing to the tune of the executive in Metuh's case. Were u expecting the judge to give accelerated bail hearing because its Metuh? The law says EFCC have 5 days to respond and he must wait for the 5 days.

You got me wrong. I have no problems with Metuh being remanded. The Judge thought it wise. What if the Judge had granted the bail request.
I guess you and I hate different things then. I hate the Odili case more than any other. I[b] hate big men who steal with impunity then turn round to frustrate justice hiding under rule of law[/b].
What is the difference between the highlighted and Peter Odili's case?

You know another thing I hate? Hypocrites! See below
There is a greater prison than Kuje; it is the conscience of men. A President who was sponsored with stolen money by a thief, is in a greater prison with the thief. And it shall manifest soon.
~ Shehu Sani
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 9:28am On Jan 16, 2016
You've been writing for over an hour hmmm grin
@theV0ice
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 9:40am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:



The $300K he gave to him was for what? he was a saboteur. One of the first statements he made was that APC was not being fair to him. He said he had intels that would have been against them but he refused to act on them. Who does that? The so called APC guy that EFCC arrested who allegedly returned N100m, has not been jailed. Why? N100m was from Dasuki or not? 

grin grin Here you go again...

I hope he hasn't named Obama as one of the beneficiaries? You said Dasuki said he gave PMB $300k and you expect me to swallow it? Has he published the PMB account he wired the funds to? Or was it Ghana must go?

He has Intel's and as the dunce he is, he's still suffering for righteousness sake instead of spilling the beans? Shame on him and long may he languish in jail


Every government is accused of that. GEJ's government was accused of phone tapping and so on. Every government interfere with privacy to extent. Buhari is ridiculing the Judiciary

Don't you think this stand of yours is rather hypocritical? So invading people's privacy is right because GEJ also did it? What extent do you think it should get to before the line of dictatorship is breached?

Do you remember justice salami saga? GEJ, as weak as he was insulted the judiciary more than anybody around my friend.


Everyone will and those who cannot can get a reprint. At least Cambridge hinted that they could release information on that if he authorized them which he refused to do. BTW, are you insinuating that when you turn 72 that you won't know where you School cert is?

He didn't need to reprint anything. Actually I'm less than 50 and I lost my birth certificate when I included the original in my common entrance registration documents due to overzealousness. Do you think its a crime? Or is it possible I was never born? shocked



I can remember saying that. I did not think he would do that. What I believed he would do has all be done. he has rversed the auto policy for instance, the PIB is resting in peace etc


You have to wonder why GEJ who comes from the Niger Delta wasnt serious enough to expedite action on the PIB. I guess he too was under the spell of the Americans and British? Can you provide a link that confirms PMB reversed the auto policy?


With the help an Isreali mechinery, any government can be embarrassed. But APC went over drive because it was rumoured GEJ involved mechinaries in Boko war

He also impounded a British airways plane and jailed 2 British engineers in retaliation for the British jailing his mercenaries.... Does that still indicate him a puppet?


What did IMF come to Nigeria to do? IMF just told Buhari that they will send a team of experts to look into your budget if it is eventually found. She told them in plain terms, this is bollocks.. That is not my point. Ignoring JPM index did not prevent international business men from working with it. You are aware of the amount of funds that has left the system and those that changed direction. GE health wasnted to invest $40 billion in Nigeria. Their plan was to set up by July, his delay made them shift to September, then November and now it is almost not talked about. He refused to devalue the naira but naira sells $305/$ because of his policy. He has been forced to reverse the no dollar deposit policy anyway. he is a puppet and he is still being manipulated. Watch it, he will sign the EU-Africa treaty ( I pray he does not). It was one of the reasons they turned against GEJ because the refusal runs against the raw material initiative. Do you know why they banned the exportation of beans and some other commodities? It is manipulation. Before the lift the ban as they will do this year, they demand that he signs the treaty. They don't want to take chances and I am sure he will bend over backwards and get rammed. The autopolicy does not favour the US. After Wheat which makes up 25% of Nigeria imports from the US, the next is used vehicles at 21% (2011 figures) The cost of wheat import in 2011 was $1.2 billion. By 2013, GEj had reduced importation from the US by 38.8%. Wheat importation was considerably affected. Cost of wheat import went down to $962 million. Guess what, the cost of vehicles imported went up to $1.3 billion. You know that is very true. that's a market, the US was not ready to also lose and with the Agric revolution under the bow tie minister, Wheat importation wet further down. With the Autopolicy, your guess is as good as mine. Buahri has reversed the gains. Ban on rice importation by GEJ and the immediate reversal by your oga?

Will you support the idea of restricting more items from the forex qualification list just like GEJ banned rice import? If PMB does that to encourage local production and conserve forex, what will you say?


Where did I say he is my model democrat?
If you did not have freedom of the press, you would not have won the election. And like I said, the same tool will be different in different hands


So who is your model democrat? Remember GEJ impounded newspapers and beat up their staff? Remember under him a sitting governor was caged in govt house by a CP? Remember you admitted he invaded the privacy of citizens by tapping into phones?

Who is your model democrat since LKY whom GEJ so desperately wished to be seen as doesn't pass your criteria?


He is not qualified to wear the shoes of LKY. LKY used unothodox methods with his brainand it worked. Buhari has no plan and he is an outright dictator and a sectionalist and like many dictators, he reasons with his anus.
http://photos.state.gov/libraries/nigeria/487468/pdfs/April%20Trade%20Fact%20Sheet%202012.pdf
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/africa/west-africa/nigeria

Choi!! Wetin dey vex you this morning wey you dey abuse my man like this?? grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 9:44am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:
You've been writing for over an hour hmmm grin
@theV0ice

My brother, no be small thing. Help me thank God o. I was typing a reply while hiding from highway robbers on Benin bye pass. We had to run back to stay with other travellers at the NNPC mega station before some mopols attached to some VIP came to dislodge them. It wasn't funny. I'm travelling and my friend is driving. Doing all this on a phone isn't easy at all. Moving in and out of network coverage... Just got to Ondo town and stopping to buy something enabled me to finish the reply.

You also didnt make the job any easier with the way your post was made angry
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 9:51am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:
You got me wrong. I have no problems with Metuh being remanded. The Judge thought it wise. What if the Judge had granted the bail request.
What is the difference between the highlighted and Peter Odili's case?

You know another thing I hate? Hypocrites! See below
~ Shehu Sani


If only Buhari could get some angels from heaven to partner with......

When PDP comes back to power, they have my permission to prosecute the thieves who are hobnobbing with Buhari now since they obviously lacked permission to jail them all through their 16 years in power wink
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 9:58am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


My brother, no be small thing. Help me thank God o. I was typing a reply while hiding from highway robbers on Benin bye pass. We had to run back to stay with other travellers at the NNPC mega station before some mopols attached to some VIP came to dislodge them. It wasn't funny. I'm travelling and my friend is driving. Doing all this on a phone isn't easy at all. Moving in and out of network coverage... Just got to Ondo town and stopping to buy something enabled me to finish the reply.

You also didnt make the job any easier with the way your post was made angry
Wow, thank God for his protection. I be think say amu robas no dey do again. God will protect us oo.
Sorry about that. it was easier for me grin grin grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 10:02am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:
Wow, thank God for his protection. I be think say amu robas no dey do again. God will protect us oo.
Sorry about that. it was easier for me grin grin grin

My brother, when I dey hear guns dey report, I remember again say life no get duplicate. Wetin go stop armed robbery na?

You wan talk say na Buhari send them again abi? grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 10:44am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


grin grin Here you go again...

I hope he hasn't named Obama as one of the beneficiaries? You said Dasuki said he gave PMB $300k and you expect me to swallow it? Has he published the PMB account he wired the funds to? Or was it Ghana must go?

He has Intel's and as the dunce he is, he's still suffering for righteousness sake instead of spilling the beans? Shame on him and long may he languish in jail



Has he given you the accounts he wired the monies of the others you believed? No but you believed all the same. Why not believe the buhari case? Even Buhari accepted that he collected something from him only that refused to accept that of $300k.


Don't you think this stand of yours is rather hypocritical? So invading people's privacy is right because GEJ also did it? What extent do you think it should get to before the line of dictatorship is breached?

Do you remember justice salami saga? GEJ, as weak as he was insulted the judiciary more than anybody around my friend.


I did not say it is right, I said it is normal to be accused. Justice Salami who was found be paid by the APC? It is unfair to say that GEJ restricted the Judiciary. The Judiciary never had the freedom they had under GEJ. GEJ allowed cases against him to run free course and paid compensations like he did to those whose newspapers were confiscated by overzealous deputies. Many election cases the PDP were lost to the opposition. Haba mana




He didn't need to reprint anything. Actually I'm less than 50 and I lost my birth certificate when I included the original in my common entrance registration documents due to overzealousness. Do you think its a crime? Or is it possible I was never born? shocked
Situation is not similar. You could get another birth certificate if you wanted. And in the situation, a self aclaimed maigaskya should have told us the truth or gotten a certified copy from Cambridge instead of forging his cert. The principal that forged that has an appointment in Katsina. It is shameful bro. Don't argue this.



You have to wonder why GEJ who comes from the Niger Delta wasnt serious enough to expedite action on the PIB. I guess he too was under the spell of the Americans and British? Can you provide a link that confirms PMB reversed the auto policy?

He was serious and so was Deziani but the house was not keen. The house was APC house anyway. They however passed at their last seating after making a stupid change that oil producing community includes everyone from Borno to Bayelsa. Already the Northerners have said the PIB should be discarded and I predicted that if it was not passed before the end of last administration, it was as good as dead. if you remember Wikileaks, you will remember that many of the election of many of the Northern law makers was funded by the multinationals. This is one of the reason the original PIB was watered down. Senate could not do anything. The US and EU would not want the bill passed and trust me, if GEJ had anther term, the bill was as good as passed.
Link for the reversal of the autopolicy:https://www.nairaland.com/2547095/apc-slash-tariffs-imported-cars. The punch link is now dead. I read that link when the thread was published on nairaland.

He also impounded a British airways plane and jailed 2 British engineers in retaliation for the British jailing his mercenaries.... Does that still indicate him a puppet?


As a dictator yea. He was supposed to act tough. But he out cap in hand asking them to help with his budget. The first thing he did after taking office was to travel to the US without a cabinet, no plan, no nothing....ridiculous






Will you support the idea of restricting more items from the forex qualification list just like GEJ banned rice import? If PMB does that to encourage local production and conserve forex, what will you say?

You do such when you have enough local capacity. GEJ did not postponed the ban on importation of rice and auto tarrif hike up to 3 times because at the projected start date, he would check local production to confirm if local capacity can support local demand. In cases, like the rice case, ban was not complete. Some level of importation was approved. Even with the slide in the value of naira, the cost of rice is still fairly stable why?

But, I do not support the either of importing toothpick and Sugar with our scarce forex. You should allow me to use my naira card outside the country. It is very convenient.



So who is your model democrat? Remember GEJ impounded newspapers and beat up their staff? Remember under him a sitting governor was caged in govt house by a CP? Remember you admitted he invaded the privacy of citizens by tapping into phones?

Who is your model democrat since LKY whom GEJ so desperately wished to be seen as doesn't pass your criteria?


That action was carried out by his overzealous deputies. Of course he accepted responsibility. He was taken to court by the newspaper union and he opted to pay compensation and settled out of court. I cannot point at an absolute model but I can confidently point at a dictator maruding as a democrat




Choi!! Wetin dey vex you this morning wey you dey abuse my man like this?? grin
Apologies sir grin The phrase was just handy at that time.
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 10:46am On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


My brother, when I dey hear guns dey report, I remember again say life no get duplicate. Wetin go stop armed robbery na?

You wan talk say na Buhari send them again abi
? grin
hahahahahaha grin grin
Na your mouth talk that one ooo no be me grin grin grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 11:51am On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:

Has he given you the accounts he wired the monies of the others you believed? No but you believed all the same. Why not believe the buhari case? Even Buhari accepted that he collected something from him only that refused to accept that of $300k.

Did Dokpesi deny collecting money from Dasuki? Did Anenih deny? Did Nduka Obaigbena deny? Did Iyorchia Ayu deny?

Why can't Dasuki counter Buhari with evidence? Or was the transaction carried out in the dream? grin


I did not say it is right, I said it is normal to be accused. Justice Salami who was found be paid by the APC? It is unfair to say that GEJ restricted the Judiciary. The Judiciary never had the freedom they had under GEJ. GEJ allowed cases against him to run free course and paid compensations like he did to those whose newspapers were confiscated by overzealous deputies. Many election cases the PDP were lost to the opposition. Haba mana

Do you know the panel set up to his indict salami reversed itself and asked GEJ to reinstate the man? Did your hero remember he was meant to be a democrat here?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/5228-why_jonathan_can_t_reinstate_justice_salami.html

Okowa a PDP won his case, Darius Ishaku won his case, 2 APC senators lost their seats to PDP in kogi state alone....my Bros, Buhari's party has lost their fair share in this matter.



Situation is not similar. You could get another birth certificate if you wanted. And in the situation, a self aclaimed maigaskya should have told us the truth or gotten a certified copy from Cambridge instead of forging his cert. The principal that forged that has an appointment in Katsina. It is shameful bro. Don't argue this.


You're the one who chose to believe he forged his certificate and I wonder how fearful GEJ was that even you know it was a forgery yet the FG was powerless to do anything.

If it was a forgery, GEJ would have done something otherwise I consider him an accessory


He was serious and so was Deziani but the house was not keen. The house was APC house anyway. They however passed at their last seating after making a silly change that oil producing community includes everyone from Borno to Bayelsa. Already the Northerners have said the PIB should be discarded and I predicted that if it was not passed before the end of last administration, it was as good as dead. if you remember Wikileaks, you will remember that many of the election of many of the Northern law makers was funded by the multinationals. This is one of the reason the original PIB was watered down. Senate could not do anything. The US and EU would not want the bill passed and trust me, if GEJ had anther term, the bill was as good as passed. 
Link for the reversal of the autopolicy:https://www.nairaland.com/2547095/apc-slash-tariffs-imported-cars. The punch link is now dead. I read that link when the thread was published on nairaland.

When did the house become APC house? Was David Mark and his gang also under Tinubu's control? If you give GEJ 100 terms, he wouldn't pass the PIB.

That isn't a reversal my friend except you're telling me higher tarrif is all there is to your famed auto policy


As a dictator yea. He was supposed to act tough. But he out cap in hand asking them to help with his budget. The first thing he did after taking office was to travel to the US without a cabinet, no plan, no nothing....ridiculous

So he wasn't a real dictator then? He was only acting tough? Hmmm

With oil price the way it is and GEJ having wasted the savings he met and the ones he should keep, like the prodigal son, we have no choice but to borrow if we hope to do anything. What i don't expect him to do is sign away our sovereignity in the process


You do such when you have enough local capacity. GEJ did not postponed the ban on importation of rice and auto tarrif hike up to 3 times because at the projected start date, he would check local production to confirm if local capacity can support local demand. In cases, like the rice case, ban was not complete. Some level of importation was approved. Even with the slide in the value of naira, the cost of rice is still fairly stable why?

But, I do not support the either of importing toothpick and Sugar with our scarce forex. You should allow me to use my naira card outside the country. It is very convenient.


OK I'm like 90% in agreement with your position here


That action was carried out by his overzealous deputies. Of course he accepted responsibility. He was taken to court by the newspaper union and he opted to pay compensation and settled out of court. I cannot point at an absolute model but I can confidently point at a dictator maruding as a democrat

But of course all under PMB was authorised by him right? wink

Did he also settle out of court with those brutalised at the APC office of n Lagos? Including the pregnant woman?

Anybody hoping to lead a group of people MUST HAVE SOME ELEMENTS OF DICTATORSHIP as we can see from the weak and docile GEJ.

Even LKY agrees fully cheesy


Apologies sir grin The phrase was just handy at that time.

grin grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 3:00pm On Jan 16, 2016
theV0ice:


Did Dokpesi deny collecting money from Dasuki? Did Anenih deny? Did Nduka Obaigbena deny? Did Iyorchia Ayu deny?

Why can't Dasuki counter Buhari with evidence? Or was the transaction carried out in the dream? grin



Kai megida, you expect Buhari to accept? The money was taken to his house. Dasuki said he gave him 300k$ with 5 cars, he accepted he received only 2 cars.......... grin You can argue as much as you like but if you were neutral, you definitely think there is something in it.


Do you know the panel set up to his indict salami reversed itself and asked GEJ to reinstate the man? Did your hero remember he was meant to be a democrat here?

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/5228-why_jonathan_can_t_reinstate_justice_salami.html

Okowa a PDP won his case, Darius Ishaku won his case, 2 APC senators lost their seats to PDP in kogi state alone....my Bros, Buhari's party has lost their fair share in this matter.

They were able to reverse themselves because he is not a dictator. A dictator will rope them in somehow. Okowa won his case? It is like me telling you that Shettima won his case. APC is just foraging in the SS where they have no say. Look at the shame they perpetrated in Bayelsa. Buhari is yet to congratulate Dickson.

You're the one who chose to believe he forged his certificate and I wonder how fearful GEJ was that even you know it was a forgery yet the FG was powerless to do anything.

If it was a forgery, GEJ would have done something otherwise I consider him an accessory


You know, I did not want GEJ to disqualify him based on anything certificate. The truth is that the guy had no WAEC cert. He got into the army through his principals recommendation. The world should know that for the records



When did the house become APC house? Was David Mark and his gang also under Tinubu's control? If you give GEJ 100 terms, he wouldn't pass the PIB.

That isn't a reversal my friend except you're telling me higher tarrif is all there is to your famed auto policy
Deziani if not for anything has axe to grind with the oil companies and she saw the PIB as a way to get back on them. Trust me, GEJ wanted the PIB and wanted it passed. You re not right about that.

The tariff is the major component of the policy.

1. Why will any foreign manufacturer open shop in Nigeria when he can easily make the same money from abroad?
2. Local industries can only flourish if they are competing with used cars from abroad
3. If used cars are still around and more affordable, the loan scheme from Standard bank would not work because many people would prefer to buy out a tokumbo that obatain a 5-10 year loan for a brand new car
etc. So the tariff hike is pivotal to the success of the auto-policy



So he wasn't a real dictator then? He was only acting tough? Hmmm

With oil price the way it is and GEJ having wasted the savings he met and the ones he should keep, like the prodigal son, we have no choice but to borrow if we hope to do anything. What i don't expect him to do is sign away our sovereignity in the process

You people forget that when he came, the whole world was recovering from the oil doom when oil sold at 34$/B and then you guys supported labour's demand for higher wage which led to the bulk of the domestic borrowing. You guys egged on the governors forum ran by Amaechi when he insisted that no money be saved citing the constitution. They dragged FG to court. NOI want Sovereign wealth fun created and they were up in arms. They are the progressives working with Mr integrity. Buhari is doing more than signing away our sovereignty because none of them in his cabinet understands the international economic politics. America and the rest of the west do not want any progress in Nigeria. It is a time bomb and they cannot handle it. We are too smart and aggressive for them. China is hacking the pentagon, when Nigeria develops, they will use electromagnetic power to change the position of the pentagon just for the fun it and as a demonstration of power grin


OK I'm like 90% in agreement with your position here

What happened to the 10%? Give all in jare wink




But of course all under PMB was authorised by him right? wink

Did he also settle out of court with those brutalised at the APC office of n Lagos? Including the pregnant woman?

Anybody hoping to lead a group of people MUST HAVE SOME ELEMENTS OF DICTATORSHIP as we can see from the weak and docile GEJ.

Even LKY agrees fully cheesy



grin grin
Most often, the deputies do things they believe it is in line with what their boss wants or just to protect their boss. IBB said, "I will take responsibility because it happened under my administration"

Now the difference is how the Boss handles the outcome? keep quiet and let it slide? It is approval. Buhari has been doing it. He is a dictator stop defending him. I don't even understand your case. You were excluded from the rice party and you are here defending a confused government grin grin grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 5:41pm On Jan 16, 2016
agabaI23:
Kai megida, you expect Buhari to accept? The money was taken to his house. Dasuki said he gave him 300k$ with 5 cars, he accepted he received only 2 cars.......... grin You can argue as much as you like but if you were neutral, you definitely think there is something in it.

You're the one who should remain neutral on the issue my friend. Even as corrupt as OBJ is, I wouldn't expect a former president like him to stoop low and collect backyard money like that.

Haba.....will GEJ at his level also accept money like that? So what was the money for? To pacify Buhari for arresting him in 1985? Or to help him defeat gej? Or just dash to an hungry senior?

Even the small officials my bank used to give 'specialized marketing' didn't collect the bribe like that


They were able to reverse themselves because he is not a dictator. A dictator will rope them in somehow. Okowa won his case? It is like me telling you that Shettima won his case. APC is just foraging in the SS where they have no say. Look at the shame they perpetrated in Bayelsa. Buhari is yet to congratulate Dickson.

grin grin you're really making effort...

Will Buhari stop being a dictator to you if Kanu gets freed soon?

I mentioned APC heavy Senate loss in kogi, what would u say to that? Do you know APC also lost 7 assembly seats in Ogun state? Are they also SS?


You know, I did not want GEJ to disqualify him based on anything certificate. The truth is that the guy had no WAEC cert. He got into the army through his principals recommendation. The world should know that for the records

My dear, you're still in the realm of speculation. Its your word against Buhari's


Deziani if not for anything has axe to grind with the oil companies and she saw the PIB as a way to get back on them. Trust me, GEJ wanted the PIB and wanted it passed. You re not right about that.

The tariff is the major component of the policy.

1. Why will any foreign manufacturer open shop in Nigeria when he can easily make the same money from abroad?
2. Local industries can only flourish if they are competing with used cars from abroad
3. If used cars are still around and more affordable, the loan scheme from Standard bank would not work because many people would prefer to buy out a tokumbo that obatain a 5-10 year loan for a brand new car
etc. So the tariff hike is pivotal to the success of the auto-policy

Diezani was a tougher president than GEJ. Even PEJ would get that bill passed.....but GEJ, not in a million years.

I'm not sure you're correct in your assertions that PMB reversed the auto policy...see below

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/187744-nigeria-grants-12-new-auto-assembly-plant-licences.html

Serious businessmen and investors are still trooping in.


You people forget that when he came, the whole world was recovering from the oil doom when oil sold at 34$/B and then you guys supported labour's demand for higher wage which led to the bulk of the domestic borrowing. You guys egged on the governors forum ran by Amaechi when he insisted that no money be saved citing the constitution. They dragged FG to court. NOI want Sovereign wealth fun created and they were up in arms. They are the progressives working with Mr integrity. Buhari is doing more than signing away our sovereignty because none of them in his cabinet understands the international economic politics. America and the rest of the west do not want any progress in Nigeria. It is a time bomb and they cannot handle it. We are too smart and aggressive for them. China is hacking the pentagon, when Nigeria develops, they will use electromagnetic power to change the position of the pentagon just for the fun it and as a demonstration of power grin

Good. Jonathan came in during oil gloom you said and Nigeria got lucky to see oil rise under him to $145/barrel. This is in addition to $20B ECA, almost zero debt and $47B foreign reserves bequeathed him by his predecessors you see no reason to blame him for depleting everything he met but you think it OK to blame Buhari who met oil at a very battered price, depleted foreign reserves, empty ECA, high debt etc?

Can you argue with Soludo when he insisted GEJ and NOI pilfering from the ECA is the cardinal reason why they couldn't stand against Amaechi and his gang? wink

You see why Buhari knows no matter what he does, you can never like or appreciate? grin


What happened to the 10%? Give all in jare wink

OK oya take another 5% grin


Most often, the deputies do things they believe it is in line with what their boss wants or just to protect their boss. IBB said, "I will take responsibility because it happened under my administration"

Now the difference is how the Boss handles the outcome? keep quiet and let it slide? It is approval. Buhari has been doing it. He is a dictator stop defending him. I don't even understand your case. You were excluded from the rice party and you are here defending a confused government grin grin grin

Did GEJ ever do anything about ekitigate? Rather Obanikoro was rewarded for a job weldone.

Was Mbu ever reprimanded for practically taking over governance in rivers state? Rather he was promoted AIG.

GEJ was a dictator at opportune times too my friend despite his weakness and docility. The difference is that Buhari doesn't know know how to be politically correct. See what GEJ's mentor, Lee Kuan Yew, said on that grin

its more preferable to be correct than to be politically correct
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by anonimi: 5:29pm On Jan 17, 2016
agabaI23:
To my friends, has Buhari changed? Is he now the born again Democrat like he claimed? modath, theVoice, lalasticlala


He has not.
He cannot.
Change is for other lesser mortals, not for our Superman.


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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by sukkot: 5:29pm On Jan 17, 2016
cckris:

General Buhari is now a MORE BRUTAL TYRANT than in the military regime, when hot-headed MAJORS could always take him out.
onyoshi
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by sukkot: 5:31pm On Jan 17, 2016
agabaI23:
Well your answer means he is still the soldier and the dictator. I would have preferred he acted like a democrat. Many of the campaign promises have been shown to be mere rhetorics. It is bad enough when you get such from a politician but worse when politician is Buhari, the self acclaimed Mr integrity.
ndi ara
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by poseidon12: 5:33pm On Jan 17, 2016
Of course he has not changed. In a sane society, somebody like Buhari will not smell the office of the president. But this is Nigeria.
Things are getting interesting though. Tompolo just emulated Buhari by disobeying the order of the high court. We'll see how it is going to get resolved.

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 5:33pm On Jan 17, 2016
sukkot:
ndi ara
O di ka i ma? A na m alike ara ka flavour. A bu m onye ara. Ara kwu oto wink
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by sukkot: 5:36pm On Jan 17, 2016
agabaI23:
O di ka i ma? A na m alike ara ka flavour. A bu m onye ara. Ara kwu oto wink
grin wink translate for me bros.
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 5:38pm On Jan 17, 2016
sukkot:
grin wink translate for me bros.
Which kain tranlsate? No be you write the post I quoted? tongue tongue
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jan 17, 2016
Everyone is now writing... Na una fault
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by sukkot: 5:39pm On Jan 17, 2016
agabaI23:
Which kain tranlsate? No be you write the post I quoted? tongue tongue
grin grin bros, i just dey always read many ndigbo guys posting ' ndi ara '. i am sure it is some kind of abuse but not sure exactly what it means tongue grin
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by balladin: 5:40pm On Jan 17, 2016
[quote author=OrlandoOwoh post=41861822]Are you confused? It's the Military Government of Lagos State that is being castigated here for not obeying court orders, why rope in Buhari? It's Gbolahan Mudasiru you've problem with, not PMB.[/quote
Do you even comprehend? It was said that the Daura President is guilty of the same sin as the then military government of Lagos state. Don't defend blindly.
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jan 17, 2016
anonimi:



He has not.
He cannot.
Change is for other lesser mortals, not for our Superman.


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You never start... You will post the whole Pablo Picasso and DaVinci pictures on Nairaland, you will still not get any effect to whats happening in reality...


Just ready more pictures.... 2019 is a long time...

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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by Nobody: 5:42pm On Jan 17, 2016
Democracy is for the civilised.

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