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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by LeSaint(m): 1:41am On Jan 18, 2016 |
PASCHAL28: A Daniel come to judgement, ... yeah, a Daniel! |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by datigbogirl: 5:30pm On Jan 18, 2016 |
LordAdam: GEJs only sin was dat he was weak, apart from dat he tried his best to be a democrat but his weakness undid him which is d reason people now fooolishly clamor for the other extreme of leadership-Tyranny....there is a way dat seemeth right unto man but d end is destruction. 1 Like |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 10:15pm On Jan 22, 2016 |
theV0ice:Bro, We can go on and on with this. We all know the truth. Can I ask you for a favour? Can you stop the comparison thing. We are discussing a government that came in with the promise of change. They said everything about the past government is bad. You cannot defend them or justify whatever they have done with that of a government you have condemned as being entirely evil. Meanwhile have you seen the budget? The oshiomole budget too? I dey laugh OBJ dey vex |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 10:31pm On Jan 22, 2016 |
Yerima accused of 1 billion fraud - bail sum 100 million Metuh accused of 400 million fraud- bail sum 700 million Oga o |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 10:35pm On Jan 22, 2016 |
agabaI23: You threw a challenge which I met. Oya before we end it, swear with your 2 balls that Dasuki gave money to Buhari Can I ask you for a favour? We can't stop the comparisons my brother because you guys are not keeping to your side of the bargain. How easy are you making an already difficult job be? APC wants to be a change but how do you start when PDP has dug and its still digging big holes everywhere and stuffing them with land mines? Are you Seeing all the monies stolen? PDP was in charge for 16years and you expect APC to unravel everything in 8 months? See price of crude oil with no savings??!! How do we forget how much GEJ sold oil yet no diversification in his 5 years!! Haba even if Buhari na king Arthur of Camelot!! Buhari's govt is slow but asking me to pretend like GEJ and his gang never existed is grossly unfair my friend Meanwhile have you seen the budget? The oshiomole budget too? Nothing concern me with Oshiomhole budget...that one na Edo people problem I'll wait for NASS to start dissecting it before I comment robustly. However, it looks a very ambitious budget on the surface....let's see how it goes Meanwhile take a peep here https://www.nairaland.com/2883569/what-need-read-today-babatunde |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 10:56pm On Jan 22, 2016 |
theV0ice:You did not swear. You can swear. I can swear too because I know it is true. If I were you, I wn't swear with someone who thinks that Ameachi is a saint. We can't stop the comparisons my brother because you guys are not keeping to your side of the bargain. How easy are you making an already difficult job be? APC wants to be a change but how do you start when PDP has dug and its still digging big holes everywhere and stuffing them with land mines? Are you Seeing all the monies stolen? PDP was in charge for 16years and you expect APC to unravel everything in 8 months? See price of crude oil with no savings??!! How do we forget how much GEJ sold oil yet no diversification in his 5 years!! Haba even if Buhari na king Arthur of Camelot!!Remember I told you how much oil sold under GEJ. Oil price recovered in 2012 ans sold $105 on the average. I told you how much he tried to save and your agents of change refused. And if you tel me that GEJ was not diversifying, I will think you are changing TBH. What GEJ in Agriculture, trade and investment, FDI etc. NOI is a wizard, Aganga and the Agric minister held their own. The health minister combated ebola but I can imagine what would happen if ebola resurfaces now. common lassa fever..... I told you about the Salary wage increase which you supported. The government has no idea what they are up to. I have not read Fashiola's speech. Remember I told you he is the only hope I have before the corruption expose on him. he is still the only hope. All these talk of PDP destroying in 16 years, APC is has buried in 8 months. I thought APC should be reviving... Leave trash for LAWMA bro |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 12:14am On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: Oya do it na.....you challenged me to and I did. Be bold and do yours @the bold, I don't need to hear from you for me to know Buhari is too refined to collect Ghana must go from a Dasuki sharing blood money all over. Somethings are beneath some people. Remember I told you how much oil sold under GEJ. Oil price recovered in 2012 ans sold $105 on the average. I told you how much he tried to save and your agents of change refused. And if you tel me that GEJ was not diversifying, I will think you are changing TBH. What GEJ in Agriculture, trade and investment, FDI etc. NOI is a wizard, Aganga and the Agric minister held their own. The health minister combated ebola but I can imagine what would happen if ebola resurfaces now. common lassa fever..... @the bold, I'll keep laughing when you bring it up since you've refused to face the truth. hear from Soludo again "Do the states that have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court and refused to save also include the PDP governors, who are in the majority? If so, then it is fatal: even governors of your own party, PDP, do not trust you to keep their money! Furthermore, did the governors also stop the federal government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice.” No one stopped GEJ from saving. GEJ himself never wished to save or rather couldn't dare save because he was spending and running deficits like it was going out of fashion. Prof Soludo said so and I think you should listen to him. I told you about the Salary wage increase which you supported. Until you can prove Buhari is paying less than N18,000 minimum wage with oil @ $27/BBL than GEJ who sold oil @ over $100/BBL as admitted by you, then this point is not only mute but necessitates you give Buhari some credit. have not read Fashiola's speech. Remember I told you he is the only hope I have before the corruption expose on him. he is still the only hope. OK All these talk of PDP destroying in 16 years, APC is has buried in 8 months. I thought APC should be reviving... Unfortunately we can't wish 16 years away just like that while complaining of a regime of 8 months. If you want us to be objective, you should give them some space especially when you are quick to demand we forget the 16 years of the locusts, devourers and cankerworms. |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 6:25am On Jan 23, 2016 |
theV0ice:The bible said I should not swear. I only swore once and my mum went berserk. That was last year. But I am sure Buhari collected money from Dasuki because he collected more from the commonwealth of River state. Soludo was not there. He was speculating like you would say. Meanwhile look at this http://www.theheraldng.com/financial-times-uk-calls-buharinomics-the-height-of-foolishness/ |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by theV0ice: 8:44am On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: My friend my friend you decided to remember the bible and mum after trying to make me falter in my affirmation? BUHARI COLLECTED NO DIME FROM DASUKI. Your desperate wish to make it true notwithstanding Soludo wasn't speculating my friend. He's a Professor in the field talking from a position of knowledge and information. If he was, NOI would have countered him as SHE ALWAYS DOES. I saw it and they're entitled to make it. The beautiful thing about economic or social theories is that one size doesn't fit all and the end justifies the means. I might not be as harsh in my assessment of the policies adopted but that's not to say I am comfortable with them. Buhari and crew are trying out a myriad of options to address some peculiar problems. If they work, they take glory, if not, they switch to something else. |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 12:00pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
theV0ice:Soludo is known to join issues in the media. He thinks he is the best and every other person is always wrong. He started the media war with El rufai and Akunyili. When he made the first accusation, NOI replied him and when she noticed she was ready to start his shameless ITK, the woman told him she was not cut out for such. I gathered reliably that they were called to order by a certain guy in the East. So it is not true that NOI did not counter him. Soludo is a political opportunist. I will stop there. You don't have to be harsh but if you remember what harped on during the campaign, you will recall that I specifically said Buhari has no fresh ideas. That he would come with the same physical fiscal policies that has no economic backing. he failed before and he would fail again. Under his nose because of his policies, companies closed. He is living in the past thinking that if he was allowed to stay long, that he would have fixed Nigeria. He therefore decided to continue from where he stopped and the disaster has been resurrected...
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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by thev0ice1: 12:20pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: But you didn't see him as an opportunist when you quoted him saying Buhari copied GEJ's budget? I hear you You don't have to be harsh but if you remember what harped on during the campaign, you will recall that I specifically said Buhari has no fresh ideas. That he would come with the same physical fiscal policies that has no economic backing. he failed before and he would fail again. My dear friend, I didn't hear GEJ enunciate any program either in 2011 or 2015. In Nigeria those with ideas don't win...its those with godfathers like GEJ or those with their own force of personality and character like Buhari that win. We'll get to the place where Utomi, Fashola or Ezekwesili will campaign on their ideas and win. I told you why I'll choose Buhari before GEJ during the elections and I'll do it again a million times so no need rehashing it. In a mono economic climate like Nigeria with its mainstay suffering price shocks, job losses are inevitable. I trust you'll be honest to admit we had thousands of job losses under GEJ? The number of workers laid off by banks between 2009 after GEJ started acting and 2014 is unparalleled in our banking history. Under GEJ, we had massive layoffs by IOC's between 2012 & 2014. Buhari always comes in to clean the rot after politicians have desecrated, defaced and devoured every vestige of sanity in public treasury and administration. It happened in 1983 and its happening again now. He's the sh!tparker and a sh!tparker always smells. It comes with the territory. [size=3pt]my moniker was banned so I had to use this[/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 12:44pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
thev0ice1:Bros you know they are two different scenarios. The copying of budget is obvious. Though you cannot remove political opportunism from it. He was expectant but Buhari ignored him. He thought his epistle would have gotten him a position now he has to say the obvious. Soludo believes that if he has no in put, it is not good enough. Thousands of jobs lost because of the magic SLS performed exactly the same type of utterances Buhari is making now that is creating panic. SLS created panic, sold of stronger banks to weaker ones for whatever reason. And the loss of jobs was tagged to 2008, 2009 oil gloom that affected some banks who were exposed through oil and gas facilities they granted. So if for anything, GEJ took care of that by providing alternatives. Bro fear God ooo Buhari does not know how to pack shyte, instead of packing shyte, he spreads to new areas. He is the real definition of cluelessness [size=3pt]I did not notice that you have committed [/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by thev0ice1: 1:01pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: The pilfering of the ECA by GEJ and NOI was also obvious hence the threat of a court case by the NGF dominated by PDP governors. You know the figures are verifiable right? Thousands of jobs lost because of the magic SLS performed exactly the same type of utterances Buhari is making now that is creating panic. Soludo said GEJ and NOI like appropriating success stories but push blames to others. You make it difficult not to believe him. My dear friend....Sanusi created no panic. I was a banker uptil 2010 before I got a miraculous opening to cross to where I am now. Intercontinental, Oceanic etc were horribly in the red. @the bold I have to laugh so it was the fault of oil gloom abi but the current problem is totally buhari's fault? Nigeria's current issues have nothing to do with oil price but everything to do with Buhari? My dear bro, I need to preach the gospel to u make u for repent [size=3pt]I did not notice that you have committed [/size] [size=3pt]one tribal bigot annoyed me and I responded [/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 1:52pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
thev0ice1:The threat of court case was based on constitution provision which said all monies accruing to the FG should be shared to all tiers. So it is not. They wanted the money to share. They are all thieves PDP or APC... You were a banker in any of the banks or were you a member of the regulatory committees? The banks were in the red more than unity bank? He created panic. Several months before the ousting of Soludo, there was a publication in Vanguard about the plan to get a northerner to do some job but I don't want to go that angle. @the bold I have to laugh so it was the fault of oil gloom abi but the current problem is totally buhari's fault? Nigeria's current issues have nothing to do with oil price but everything to do with Buhari?Both are from gloom. The difference is in how the situation is managed by the individuals involved. One was making the situation worse by his senseless approach while the team of the other had the grasp of international economic politics and it helped. [size=3pt]one tribal bigot annoyed me and I responded [/size] [size=3pt]I know sy you don commit...ndo. I try my best to avoid that. It makes no sense. I cannot understand why after suffering from racism from the whites, I will come here continue with that rubbish[/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by thev0ice1: 2:17pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: Very good. GEJ wasn't innocent just like Amaechi. You were a banker in any of the banks or were you a member of the regulatory committees? The banks were in the red more than unity bank? He created panic. Several months before the ousting of Soludo, there was a publication in Vanguard about the plan to get a northerner to do some job but I don't want to go that angle. Pls agabaI23, you dwell too much on conspiracy theories and it isn't healthy....what do you think about GEJ sacking sanusi and bringing someone from the SS as governor? Did you also not read reports about some sinister intentions? I was an operations head in one of those banks and I know the fraudulent job PWC did with our 2008 audit report to hide the problems. The banks were truly sick. Whether Unity should have received same treatment is another matter because there were also insinuations of Zenith escaping due to Jim Ovia's 'closeness' to Sanusi. Both are from gloom. The difference is in how the situation is managed by the individuals involved. One was making the situation worse by his senseless approach while the team of the other had the grasp of international economic politics and it helped. GEJ came in with oil @ average of $58/bbl and experienced steady increases till July 2014. Shame on him if he couldn't ensure a stable economy. [size=3pt]I know sy you don commit...ndo. I try my best to avoid that. It makes no sense. I cannot understand why after suffering from racism from the whites, I will come here continue with that rubbish[/size] [size=3pt]it hurts me because I'm married to an Igbo queen and my younger sister is married to an Igbo guy. The madness strikes a touchy point[/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 2:35pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
thev0ice1:Fine why would My integrity associate himself with a thief? may be he is not what you think. I already he is not. Pls agabaI23, you dwell too much on conspiracy theories and it isn't healthy....what do you think about GEJ sacking sanusi and bringing someone from the SS as governor? Did you also not read reports about some sinister intentions?I support the removal, replacing him with south south is another thing all together. Buhari is an expert in that, so espeaklekwa. One single question, if one of your employees acts the way Sanusi acted, will you pat him on the back and keep him? I was an operations head in one of those banks and I know the fraudulent job PWC did with our 2008 audit report to hide the problems. The banks were truly sick. Whether Unity should have received same treatment is another matter because there were also insinuations of Zenith escaping due to Jim Ovia's 'closeness' to Sanusi.OK, I won't argue much on this again. There were better ways of handling that situation. The banks in the UK were in worse situation but I remember the chancellor of exchequer never spoke negatively of the banks. GEJ came in with oil @ average of $58/bbl and experienced steady increases till July 2014. Shame on him if he couldn't ensure a stable economy.Naa, he ensured a stable economy as long as the north allowed him. You have forgotten he faced distraction from the word GO. Bomblast upon bomblasts. He could have done better. He has set the economy for a great leap but the West does not want that. Bro, this is not about Nigeria. I sent you my article. I am going to modify that article and publish now. I am sure they will accept it now. [size=3pt]it hurts me because I'm married to an Igbo queen and my younger sister is married to an Igbo guy. The madness strikes a touchy point[/size] [size=3pt]Please do you have another sister that is as smart as you are? I won't mind[/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by thev0ice1: 2:41pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
agabaI23: Actually I heard Buhari applied to heaven for God to send him political associates from among the angels....God told him he should manage the thieves he had around as he wouldn't risk the angels being corrupted by Nigerians I support the removal, replacing him with south south is another thing all together. Buhari is an expert in that, so espeaklekwa. One single question, if one of your employees acts the way Sanusi acted, will you pat him on the back and keep him? I agree with you. So yaradua too must have his reasons for removing Soludo.....nothing to do with your conspiracy theories. OK, I won't argue much on this again. There were better ways of handling that situation. The banks in the UK were in worse situation but I remember the chancellor of exchequer never spoke negatively of the banks. You forget we are in Nigeria and Nigerians are Nigerians. How many Nigerian CEO have ever resigned because they led their companies astray? Abeg let the regulators deal with Nigerians the Nigerian way abeg. Naa, he ensured a stable economy as long as the north allowed him. You have forgotten he faced distraction from the word GO. Bomblast upon bomblasts. He could have done better. He has set the economy for a great leap but the West does not want that. Bro, this is not about Nigeria. I sent you my article. I am going to modify that article and publish now. I am sure they will accept it now. Good. He had the luxury of high oil prices but buhari has to fight boko haram in the north, ipob haters in the east, Niger Delta militants in the SS etc with a ridiculous price of our single export commodity.... My dear, GEJ had it smooth compared to this [size=3pt]Please do you have another sister that is as smart as you are? I won't mind[/size] [size=3pt]my last sister married last year....na brothers remain and I know say you and them like woman pass normal [/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by Geeflow(m): 4:34pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Wot a messy nd a pityful mentallity som guillible Nigerians hv madly develop,is Nigeria cursed? Ur hatred for pmb kn't blow an ant.meaningful Nigerians knw dat we need a behavioural attitude personality lyk Buhari @dis moment.I and well concerned Nigerians dnt care woteva means Buhari deem fit 2 deal wit our yam stealers.I suport Buhari 2b above d law wit his fight against corruption.or are u wailers sayin dia was no rule of law wen dasuki loot d fund dat was meant 4 procurement of arms 4 d military 2 fight d insurgence? Yeye dey smell Wot a messy nd a pityful mentallity som guillible Nigerians hv madly develop,is Nigeria cursed? Ur hatred for pmb kn't blow an ant.meaningful Nigerians knw dat we need a behavioural attitude personality lyk Buhari @dis moment.I and well concerned Nigerians dnt care woteva means Buhari deem fit 2 deal wit our yam stealers.I suport Buhari 2b above d law wit his fight against corruption.or are u wailers sayin dia was no rule of law wen dasuki loot d fund dat was meant 4 procurement of arms 4 d military 2 fight d insurgence? Yeye dey smell 1 Like |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by Geeflow(m): 4:39pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
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Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 11:59pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
thev0ice1:Hahaha, Nigeria have people of intergrity. A self proclaimed tough man should have sent these guys away from the corridors of power. lol, let leave that one None resigned in the UK either apart from the Northern Rock which was nationalised and the guy was sacked by the government. All other banks received bail out funds totaling 37 billion pounds. Barclays refused any help from the government. Nobody said anything about how bad the situation in each bank was. The Chancellor quietly did his thing. It was the investigative media that were like hawks watching to see how much they paid themselves. I could remember they picked on barclays guys for huge bonus they paid to themselves. But here, it was the CBN governor that was going around rubbishing the economy in the name of fighting his predecessor who uncharacteristically has not replied him till date. Do you remember what happened to bank stocks when this guy started having verbal diarrhoea? Until he came, it was said that NSE was immuned to the global crises. The bleeding that happened all around was not that significant. But the moment he opened his mouth, the sentiment came in and the bears came in thousands from the North pole If you are being sincere, the only problem this guys has that he did not bring to himself is the oil price. Boko haram was almost gone when he was sworn in. His inaction for months gave them time to fester again. IPOB was fueled by him. Nnamdi kanu was there during GEJ's regime. He was was causing trouble already. Buhari started his 5% statement and all and he arrested Kanu. he had no business touching that guy. All the protest was for him to release Kanu. it was all his fault. Somethings are left untouched. If he looked the other way about Amaechi, he should have forgotten about Tompolo. And BTW, nothing is happening Niger delta. Little activity just started recently and i will tell you, he should be wise. GEJ has it all, Boko haram and the hostile North. [size=3pt]my last sister married last year....na brothers remain and I know say you and them like woman pass normal [/size][size=3pt] Too bad [/size] |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by agabaI23(m): 12:02am On Jan 24, 2016 |
Geeflow:Jump and pass |
Re: FRA Williams On Buhari And Court Orders: Has Buhari Changed? by thev0ice1: 7:59am On Jan 24, 2016 |
agabaI23: Mention one Nigerian you believe is above board in the political space? None resigned in the UK either apart from the Northern Rock which was nationalised and the guy was sacked by the government. I wasn't about that particular episode my friend....a CEO in UK has a better sense of shame and judgement. If their conditions were as bad as that of the Nigerian banks, they would have toed that line. All other banks received bail out funds totaling 37 billion pounds. Barclays refused any help from the government. What is $37B pounds in the balance sheet of banks in the financial capital of the world? Barclay's even refused help?? I laugh. Let me give u a hint....Barclays has assets in excess of £2Trillion. If only you knew how distressed the Nigerian banks were. Do you know how much debt AMCON took over? Nobody said anything about how bad the situation in each bank was. The Chancellor quietly did his thing. It was the investigative media that were like hawks watching to see how much they paid themselves. I could remember they picked on barclays guys for huge bonus they paid to themselves. But here, it was the CBN governor that was going around rubbishing the economy in the name of fighting his predecessor who uncharacteristically has not replied him till date. Do you remember what happened to bank stocks when this guy started having verbal diarrhoea? Until he came, it was said that NSE was immuned to the global crises. The bleeding that happened all around was not that significant. But the moment he opened his mouth, the sentiment came in and the bears came in thousands from the North pole Agaba, pls don't compare the situation of our banks with Barclays whose only problem as confirmed by you was huge bonuses to the CEO. Do you know the huge holes these banks were carrying in their balance sheets? Were you expecting Sanusi to wait until we have another failed banks situation? The banks were truly distressed. How much bad loans did UK banks have in their books relative to their assets? How many of the CEO's run companies to which they allocate huge sums in phantom contracts from their banks? My dear, leave Nigerian bank If you are being sincere, the only problem this guys has that he did not bring to himself is the oil price. Buhari started fighting BH right from his inaugural speech. BH only went on small sabbatical like they always do. They Never died. I don't like talking about kanu because I don't know how to reset the brain of a man who thinks he's fighting for freedom by asking his illiterate supporters to kill Pastor Kumuyi for the only crime of being Yoruba. Its 'funny jokes' like those that started the Rwandan Genocide. Sylva's madness awakened a sleeping monster. Very few APC leaders wanted sylva but for peace sake, they left him. The wahala between him and oshiomhole during the primaries is a pointer to that. GEJ has it all, Boko haram and the hostile North. PMB has more...BH, IPOB, Militants [size=3pt] Too bad [/size] [/quote] [size=3pt]I tell you....but the cerebral agabaI23 will always get a queen [/size] |
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