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Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by golpen(m): 6:48pm On Jan 18, 2016
malvisguy212:
what So what you quote was not a hadith but an explanation of the hadith the op quote ? Wow, I don't know what to say, that explanation (someone opinion) was invalid because their was no source (proof) were the christians and Jews worship at dead prophet tomb. Anyway thank you for your effort, I appreciate your effort of trying to cover a lie.

I asked you to seek for an example and I will gladly provide, but you are scared so I don't expose you... Lol

Maybe you already have one in mind sef. Hahaha. Funny Christians.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 8:16pm On Jan 18, 2016
golpen:


I asked you to seek for an example and I will gladly provide, but you are scared so I don't expose you... Lol

Maybe you already have one in mind sef. Hahaha. Funny Christians.
what kind of example ? Provide it let us see.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by golpen(m): 8:52pm On Jan 18, 2016
malvisguy212:
what kind of example ? Provide it let us see.

Now you are talking.... Read for yourself bro

http://ivarfjeld.com/2013/07/24/dead-pope-kept-in-open-air-after-earthquake/
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by DeathStroke007(m): 8:14am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and
Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .”

even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible.

Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse.

Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the
wisdom or the insight to prevent the
causes that could lead to creature-
worship among his worshippers.

The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is
highly accepted throughout the Muslim
world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi
(1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book
Al-Shifa’:

“Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna
and is both excellent and desirable.
Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said,
‘My shafa’at (intercession on the
Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib
(incumbent upon me to intercede)
FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”




Mr Man, you ask a good question... Muslims are allowed to visit grave but not to worship grave nor build mosque on grave.


mecca masjid wasn't built on Prophet Muhammad grave. satisfied?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 8:58am On Jan 19, 2016
DeathStroke007:





Mr Man, you ask a good question... Muslims are allowed to visit grave but not to worship grave nor build mosque on grave.


mecca masjid wasn't built on Prophet Muhammad grave. satisfied?
After an expansion (mosque) during the reign of
the Umayyad caliph al-Walid I, it now
incorporates the final resting place of
Muhammad and the first two Rashidun
caliphs Abu Bakr and Umar.[4] One of
the most notable features of the site is
the Green Dome in the south-east corner
of the mosque,[5] originally Aisha's
house,[4] where the tomb of Muhammad
is located.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masjid_an-Nabawi
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by DeathStroke007(m): 9:02am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
After an expansion (mosque) during the reign of
the Umayyad caliph al-Walid I, it now
incorporates the final resting place of
Muhammad and the first two Rashidun
caliphs Abu Bakr and Umar.[4] One of
the most notable features of the site is
the Green Dome in the south-east corner
of the mosque,[5] originally Aisha's
house,[4] where the tomb of Muhammad
is located.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masjid_an-Nabawi



wiki again.. laughing.. wahala wa o..




so you saying mosque is built on grave of Prophet Muhammad?


you be fool of life..


go YouTube and watch makkah mosque video.. you will see where Prophet Muhammad tomb is.. barricade in golden bars..
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 9:02am On Jan 19, 2016
golpen:


Now you are talking.... Read for yourself bro

http://ivarfjeld.com/2013/07/24/dead-pope-kept-in-open-air-after-earthquake/
you must be joking, right ?it is either you or muhammed don't understand the office of prophet and pope. And were in the bible it encourage such acts ? Were did muhammed got the information from that christians and Jews commit such acts ?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 9:12am On Jan 19, 2016
DeathStroke007:




wiki again.. laughing.. wahala wa o..




so you saying mosque is built on grave of Prophet Muhammad?


you be fool of life..


go YouTube and watch makkah mosque video.. you will see where Prophet Muhammad tomb is.. barricade in golden bars..
oh, so now wiki is lying ? But you guys always paste wikipedia as source. The Saudi government plan to remove tomb
of Prophet Muhammad, why ?

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/alarm-over-saudi-plan-remove-remains-prophet-muhammad-64572685
The plans, according to the Independent
newspaper have been circulating the al-
Masjid al-Nabawi mosque in Medina
which houses the Prophet’s remains
under the Green Dome which is visited
by millions of pilgrims each year and is
regarded as the second holiest site in
Islam after the Kabbah.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by DeathStroke007(m): 9:37am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
oh, so now wiki is lying ? But you guys always paste wikipedia as source. The Saudi government plan to remove tomb
of Prophet Muhammad, why ?

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/alarm-over-saudi-plan-remove-remains-prophet-muhammad-64572685
The plans, according to the Independent
newspaper have been circulating the al-
Masjid al-Nabawi mosque in Medina
which houses the Prophet’s remains
under the Green Dome which is visited
by millions of pilgrims each year and is
regarded as the second holiest site in
Islam after the Kabbah.



word of advice.. never venture into what you have knowledge not in.


do you have in depth knowledge on grave matters in islam??

let me say i accept your claims. if expansion of mosque is needed, Prophet Muhammad grave would have to be moved to another place
.
since the grave is moved, it's no longer a grave site.. and mosque can be expanded .. do you understand?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by golpen(m): 9:58am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
you must be joking, right ?it is either you or muhammed don't understand the office of prophet and pope. And were in the bible it encourage such acts ? Were did muhammed got the information from that christians and Jews commit such acts ?

Leave this matter if you can't defend it now! Chai! Lol...

Prophet Muhammad S. A. W, did not mention that your scripture preaches that,but as you and I know, you Christians have engaged in acts in which the bible never prescribed to you. It is that particular act that your church and the popes perpetrate, that he condemned and war Muslims against it.

So you want to start classifying popes and prophets? You're very funny my brother... Hahaha
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:21am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the last moment of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE the Jews and
Christians for THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .”

even in his dying breath, uttered curses. Please recall Muhammad’s reason for cursing the Jews and the Christians. He said, “FOR THEY BUILT THE PLACES OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVES OF THEIR PROPHET .” We will now address this accusation of Muhammad. We will look at the facts recorded in the Bible.

Moses and Jesus ,they are very important to the Jews, Moses to Judaism and Jesus to Christianity. As stated in Deuteronomy 34:5-6, God himself buried Moses to an undisclosed place and to Jesus,God removed His body. committing. Meaning it prevented both christians and Jews from being enticed to make pilgrimages or pay homage to such sites. It protected them from creature-worship. In contrast, what did the Muslims do with Muhammad’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse.

Unlike Jehovah, Allah did not have the
wisdom or the insight to prevent the
causes that could lead to creature-
worship among his worshippers.

The 12th century work by Qadi Iyad is
highly accepted throughout the Muslim
world. Al-Qadi Iyadibn Musa al-Yahsubi
(1083 C.E.-1149 C.E.) wrote in his book
Al-Shifa’:

“Visiting his grave is part of the Sunna
and is both excellent and desirable.
Ibn `Umar said that the Prophet said,
‘My shafa’at (intercession on the
Day of Qiyamah) is Waajib
(incumbent upon me to intercede)
FOR THE ONE WHO VISIT MY GRAVE.’”

Yes

And Christians and atheists and...
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:27am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


Yes

And Christians and atheists and...
You will have to provide proof that he successfully curse christians and Jews.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:29am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
You will have to provide proof that he successfully curse christians and Jews.

Bla bla bla

Aren't you stu..pid?

Get off my mentions, I am not a gentle soul at all
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:32am On Jan 19, 2016
DeathStroke007:




word of advice.. never venture into what you have knowledge not in.


do you have in depth knowledge on grave matters in islam??

let me say i accept your claims. if expansion of mosque is needed, Prophet Muhammad grave would have to be moved to another place
.
since the grave is moved, it's no longer a grave site.. and mosque can be expanded .. do you understand?
if you know who you are charting with, you will not ask such question. If muhammed should accused the christians and Jews of nothing they know about , it mean he lied , God prophet do not lie.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:35am On Jan 19, 2016
golpen:


Leave this matter if you can't defend it now! Chai! Lol...

Prophet Muhammad S. A. W, did not mention that your scripture preaches that,but as you and I know, you Christians have engaged in acts in which the bible never prescribed to you. It is that particular act that your church and the popes perpetrate, that he condemned and war Muslims against it.

So you want to start classifying popes and prophets? You're very funny my brother... Hahaha
if I accused you of something, you will have to provide evidence from my book that I did it, so were in the bible that christians and Jews are guilty of this accusations?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:38am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


Bla bla bla

Aren't you stu..pid?

Get off my mentions, I am not a gentle soul at all
get off your mention ? Who tag you here ? Please close the door when living. Thank you.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:40am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
get off your mention ? Who tag you here ? Please close the door when living. Thank you.

Ode!undecided

It says Islam section. I have every right to be here and you don't.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:44am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


Ode!undecided

It says Islam section. I have every right to be here and you don't.

you said I should not mention you, but you are the first to quote me, are you afraid to discuss religion with me ?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
you said I should not mention you, but you are the first to quote me, are you afraid to discuss religion with me ?
You are in our space. Wet don't want you. You have no right to be here, I doundecided
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:48am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:

You are in our space. Wet don't want you. You have no right to be here, I doundecided
I accept the terms and conditions, so I have the right to be here.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:52am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
I accept the terms and conditions, so I have the right to be here.

Did you?

"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 10:57am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


Did you?

"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."

I accept the terms but I did not regards muhammed as a prophet. I believe he is self proclaimed prophet.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 10:59am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
I accept the terms but I did not regards muhammed as a prophet. I believe he is self proclaimed prophet.

Then get off this sectionundecided
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 11:03am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:

Then get off this sectionundecided
are you a soldier girl ?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 11:04am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
are you a soldier girl ?

How do you mean?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 11:11am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


How do you mean?
you command like you're a soldier girl. I did not disturb you guys here, I only ask questions, if you cannot answer, you can leave or stay and read comment. Thank you.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 11:14am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
you command like you're a soldier girl. I did not disturb you guys here, I only ask questions, if you cannot answer, you can leave or stay and read comment. Thank you.

I am not a soldier.

Well,, you are disturbing us. We do not have to tell you that. You know you are disturbing us.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 11:19am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


I am not a soldier.

Well,, you are disturbing us. We do not have to tell you that. You know you are disturbing us.
I don't think asking questions is 'A' disturb.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by Nobody: 11:21am On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
I don't think asking questions is 'A' disturb.

This is not about you. It is about us. You are disturbing us. Note that you know, can you please leave?
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by malvisguy212: 11:25am On Jan 19, 2016
daretodiffer:


This is not about you. It is about us. You are disturbing us. Note that you know, can you please leave?
tell your muslims brothers to stop posting in the main religion section because here is there home. Until then, I'm staying. Peace.
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by golpen(m): 12:19pm On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
if I accused you of something, you will have to provide evidence from my book that I did it, so were in the bible that christians and Jews are guilty of this accusations?

Will you stop making a joke out of yourselves? Is it Muslims that are guilty of the ones I sent to you? Are they not Christians? You Christians don't need scriptures to commit atrocities do you? You celebrate Christmas, especially on an Idol worship day. Did you use the scripture? Where did the bible ask you to celebrate Christmas? Likewise, your popes don't need the scripture to commit this accusations. Even homo acts, your bishops don't look at the scriptures before practising and endorsing it. Haha....

Don't whine about the deep poo your religion put you, you can seek the truth and it will definitely set you free. Peace out bro
Re: Did Muhammed Curse Muslims ? by DeathStroke007(m): 1:17pm On Jan 19, 2016
malvisguy212:
if you know who you are charting with, you will not ask such question. If muhammed should accused the christians and Jews of nothing they know about , it mean he lied , God prophet do not lie.


tell me what he accused them of..


i know you wella.. am ready to debunk all your lies on NL

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