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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 10:24pm On Jan 28, 2016
BTW, if we play a seven game series, i do not know any player on every other 29 teams in the NBA that can stop stephen curry, Name Them, I will wait.

If we play a seven game series, if you have these players...Kawhi Leonard, Andre Iguodala, or Shawn Marion best believe lebron will be slow the heck down...Those are his three nemesis to date... Dude can not buy a shot against those guys
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:55pm On Jan 28, 2016
birdman:


Which curry? 2 simple questions for yall.

If I place Curry or Lebron on the worst teams in the NBA
1. whose team will improve more?
2. whose individual stats will not take a hit

ehen! so you see why LBJ is king indeed grin grin grin


People ask this every time forgetting Lebron is in the East. Surely, Lebron sticks to the east knowing he's bound to reach the playoffs every season.

And your number 2 question is not genuine. If I remember, Kevin Love was averaging numbers in monstrosity in a team like Minnesota before plummeting in Cleveland. Even Kyrie's stats didn't take a hit in Cavaliers bad seasons until Lebron came. Same thing could be said for Wade and Bosh. What makes you think Curry's numbers will take a hit when he already has another teammate averaging 20+ppg and another 7+apg. If for anything, Curry's numbers will dynamically increase.

Lemme change the question a bit

Put Lebron in a team like Lakers in the WEST!!! Will he still make playoffs?

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:58pm On Jan 28, 2016
Decale:



People ask this every time forgetting Lebron is in the East. Surely, Lebron sticks to the east knowing he's bound to reach the playoffs every season.

And your number 2 question is not genuine. If I remember, Kevin Love was averaging numbers in monstrosity in a team like Minnesota before plummeting in Cleveland. Even Kyrie's stats didn't take a hit in Cavaliers bad seasons until Lebron came. Same thing could be said for Wade and Bosh. What makes you think Curry's numbers will take a hit when he already has another teammate averaging 20+ppg and another 7+apg. If for anything, Curry's numbers will dynamically increase.

Lemme change the question a bit

Put Lebron in a team like Lakers in the WEST!!! Will he still make playoffs?
Fam, lets wait till birdman answer our questions, just waiting for roland to input his own points.... Everyone thinks this guy is a god or something...
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 3:34am On Jan 29, 2016
curry's unbelievable shooting range is why the GSW works its why dray is an all star today.
bosh and wade scorings dipped as they both are 2nd and 3rd options who use to be number one scoring option.
same with kyrie and love who put up all star type numbers on bad teams,
lebron is the best passer and creator on both the former heat team and present cavs the threat of him driving to the paint open up so many channels
not allowing that is like saying curry should stop taking such crazy shots.
if love remains like this its love fault not Bron ,bosh greatness is clear with how difficult love is finding life .
the fact that Bron is still the only player we can make this transfer player argument work for says a lot
still Curry na the undisputed MVP this season if things continue like this.
Re: The NBA Begins by kliq(m): 8:56am On Jan 29, 2016
ASG Reserves:

Eastern Conference:

Andre Drummond
Jimmy Butler
DeMar DeRozan
Paul Millsap
Chris Bosh
John Wall
Isaiah Thomas



Western Conference:

Draymond Green
Klay Thompson
James Harden
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis
DeMarcus Cousins
LaMarcus Aldridge
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:40am On Jan 29, 2016
kliq:
ASG Reserves:

Eastern Conference:

Andre Drummond
Jimmy Butler
DeMar DeRozan
Paul Millsap
Chris Bosh
John Wall
Isaiah Thomas



Western Conference:

Draymond Green
Klay Thompson
James Harden
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis
DeMarcus Cousins
LaMarcus Aldridge

IMO, Lillard and Rondo for Thompson and Aldridge respectively. Lillard plays SG while they can do away with a PF after all na charity match. Aldridge especially shouldn't be here cos his inconsistency stinks.

For the east, away with Millsap and put Whiteside. Nobody, I mean nobody is a better defender this season than Whiteside.

Again, na my own opinion...
Re: The NBA Begins by kliq(m): 2:02pm On Jan 29, 2016
Decale:


IMO, Lillard and Rondo for Thompson and Aldridge respectively. Lillard plays SG while they can do away with a PF after all na charity match. Aldridge especially shouldn't be here cos his inconsistency stinks.

For the east, away with Millsap and put Whiteside. Nobody, I mean nobody is a better defender this season than Whiteside.

Again, na my own opinion...

Cool but the coaches made their choice,I think Lillard deserves a place,whiteside too.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:07pm On Jan 30, 2016
Decale:



People ask this every time forgetting Lebron is in the East. Surely, Lebron sticks to the east knowing he's bound to reach the playoffs every season.

And your number 2 question is not genuine. If I remember, Kevin Love was averaging numbers in monstrosity in a team like Minnesota before plummeting in Cleveland. Even Kyrie's stats didn't take a hit in Cavaliers bad seasons until Lebron came. Same thing could be said for Wade and Bosh. What makes you think Curry's numbers will take a hit when he already has another teammate averaging 20+ppg and another 7+apg. If for anything, Curry's numbers will dynamically increase.

Lemme change the question a bit

Put Lebron in a team like Lakers in the WEST!!! Will he still make playoffs?

Of course he will still make playoffs. If you meant wiill he make it to WCF? Again I would say yes. Would he win the WCF to get to the finals, that is not a sure bet. But this is true of any other team in the league.

You say stars around Lebron are averaging less because of him. But as I remember, Bosh won two rings because of LBJ. If you ask Bosh which he wants 30ppg 10 reb for 4 seasons or 2 rings and 4 finals in 4 seasons, which do you think he will take?
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:14pm On Jan 30, 2016
Donlittle:
fam, i didnt even know you were this much of a lebron fan.

one question: The self proclaimed king or The black Mamba and why?

LBJ. Unselfishness, not just in the game, but in the community.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:34pm On Jan 30, 2016
Donlittle:
No doubt, lebron team will improve more....... I am not even going to argue against that.... If you put lebron on any team, that team is going to at least the Eastern conference finals if the team is in the east, if he comes to the lakers today, I can put all my money on it that the lakers is not getting pass the first round until the team gets another all star.

The reason why lebron stat will not take a hit is because he plays like a point guard which i do not like. I see him as a ball hog, a stat sheet stuffer. Lebron makes the role players around him look really good, look at dellavadova, james jones, mike miller, and all of those guys... he makes them look really good. When you are talking about Star players on his team, he makes them look really bad. Look at chris bosh, At toronto bosh averaged 22.7 and 24.0 points in his last two years and while he was in miami he averaged 16.6 and 16.2 respectively in lebron last two years.

You want to know what Klay Thompson is averaging right now with the MVP still on his team currently? Dude Averaged 21.7 last year and is averaging 20.9 this season and that is because he has not been shooting the ball well like he did last year. A star is still looking like a star on curry's team because of the way he plays, and guess what? The role players look like good players because he lets them handle the ball, Players like Shawn Livingston, harrison barnes, andre iguodala, barbosa, and even draymond green and co look like star players almost every other day because curry makes them better. It is even unfair to call these players role players anymore because they just look like star players when you watch them play. Lebron does not adjust to other players, everytime people have to defer to him or learn how to play with him. What is Tristan Thompson Averaging? I will wait, What is Kevin Love averaging? I will wait, Heck what is Kyrie Averaging? I will wait.

No matter what kevin love does, he is always going to look like a freaking role player unless lebron finally understands he needs to play like a small forward and not a Point Guard. The guy is not even a great shooter, if he was i will understand what the heck he is doing out of the three points line thinking he is Larry bird.

Lebron is not winning a chip anymore, and i hope he gets to the finals so he can be 2-5 grin grin. Just because he keeps taking his team to the Eastern Conference finals does not mean he is the best player on the planet.

LBJ is now a ball hog? The same guy you keep wishing would assert himself and take the last shot? The same guy averaging PG assists. The same guy that gets all the way to the rim, and will then pass for an open 3 instead of taking a floater? Bosh own 2 rings with LBJ's game. An old dwade 2 more. I think they came out just fine.


Second, you cant compare the warriors with the cavs by mentioning klay thompson. The warriors are playing what looks like a princeton offense the Kings used to play when chris webber was at his peak, albeit the warriors have a much better 3pt shooting PG than Bibby was for the kings. So you cant make an individual player comparison. On the Warriors, the center should be in double figures due to the free flowing offense and small ball. On the Cavs, Mozgov for example is a traditional center and will not average more than 10 points. Love will also have to adjust to a more traditional PF role, his points will come down but his rebounds and putbacks should stay the same.
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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:48pm On Jan 30, 2016
birdman:


LBJ. Unselfishness, not just in the game, but in the community.

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN!!!

Sounds more like an emotional choice..and when you mention unselfishness, LBJ is not exactly innocent.

Can Lebron survive in the western conference? i would say maybe with an efficient shooter/ scorer who can averages 25 points a game, anything less than that Lebron would not and his team would suffer.

Lebron can dominate the Eastern conference averaging 24.8 points and 6.4 assists as the best player in the rotation.

The competition in the western conference is not entirely hinged on the quality of the teams that compete but the average points winning teams make, teams in the western conference win games scoring over 105-115 points, this is not exactly the case in the Eastern conference, the bulk of overtime in the NBA is registered in the western conference.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 6:17pm On Jan 30, 2016
birdman:


Of course he will still make playoffs. If you meant wiill he make it to WCF? Again I would say yes. Would he win the WCF to get to the finals, that is not a sure bet. But this is true of any other team in the league.

You say stars around Lebron are averaging less because of him. But as I remember, Bosh won two rings because of LBJ. If you ask Bosh which he wants 30ppg 10 reb for 4 seasons or 2 rings and 4 finals in 4 seasons, which do you think he will take?

Unfuckinbelievable!!!!!
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:58am On Jan 31, 2016
Roland17:


BIRDMAN BIRDMAN!!!

Sounds more like an emotional choice..and when you mention unselfishness, LBJ is not exactly innocent.

Can Lebron survive in the western conference? i would say maybe with an efficient shooter/ scorer who can averages 25 points a game, anything less than that Lebron would not and his team would suffer.

Lebron can dominate the Eastern conference averaging 24.8 points and 6.4 assists as the best player in the rotation.

The competition in the western conference is not entirely hinged on the quality of the teams that compete but the average points winning teams make, teams in the western conference win games scoring over 105-115 points, this is not exactly the case in the Eastern conference, the bulk of overtime in the NBA is registered in the western conference.


Yeah, there is probably an emotional component grin. But that is generally true for most players we like or hate - its a little more than the stats. Still, I think someone with his skillset, who can essentially play point forward and almost triple double on a regular basis will always be in the mix in the west.

Like you said, the west is faster paced and you have to produce 100ish point per night against top teams. But almost every team in the west has side kicks that can produce points. So if LBJ was in the west, I think this would be a non issue. Likewise, If Curry alone went to the east, I believe his production would struggle. The pace is different, and on any eastern team, it would be easier to check him.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skywalker5(m): 6:39am On Jan 31, 2016
GSW dey play with fire.almost lost to sixers . Also looks like the cavs are better now.
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 4:38pm On Jan 31, 2016
Skywalker5:
GSW dey play with fire.almost lost to sixers . Also looks like the cavs are better now.

the cavs finally looked like they had a sensible rotation. Probably confused the spurs because its different - several times the spurs had a big lineup against the cavs smalls and got lit up.

And I kneeeew you would take monta ellis off waivers. May he "bless" you as he blessed me wink
Re: The NBA Begins by Skywalker5(m): 5:29pm On Jan 31, 2016
birdman:


the cavs finally looked like they had a sensible rotation. Probably confused the spurs because its different - several times the spurs had a big lineup against the cavs smalls and got lit up.

And I kneeeew you would take monta ellis off waivers. May he "bless" you as he blessed me wink

Amen oooooooo.I had too.immediately i saw he was available,i add to drop Evans. Monta add values in assist and steals also which is part of what i am missing. You and joephemzyz's team are getting stronger and i need to make changes. I see you are dealing with Josh.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:54pm On Jan 31, 2016
birdman:


Which curry? 2 simple questions for yall.

If I place Curry or Lebron on the worst teams in the NBA
1. whose team will improve more?
2. whose individual stats will not take a hit

ehen! so you see why LBJ is king indeed grin grin grin
Steph's. Curry will improve his team as much as LeBron if not more. Looking at the likes of Draymond, Klay, Barnes. The absence of a ball dominant PG has done a lot of good for their career. Will you say Kyrie's game improved under LeBron? Wade? Bosh

As good as everyone screams LeBron is he needed three hall of famers to win two rings. Steph Curry never had that luxury

Steph's stats will not take a hit. We have been through this before while you were questioning his game. He plays within the offense doesn't rely on his athleticism, will he suddenly forget how to shoot?

If anything Steph's skill set would open more opportunities for the role players to become bona fide stars in the league

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Re: The NBA Begins by joephemzyz(m): 7:25pm On Jan 31, 2016
Skywalker5:


Amen oooooooo.I had too.immediately i saw he was available,i add to drop Evans. Monta add values in assist and steals also which is part of what i am missing. You and joephemzyz's team are getting stronger and i need to make changes. I see you are dealing with Josh.

You got monta Ellis! Nice one bruh grin grin .....so u re d "high priority needs" manager the league board ws referring to, when they notified me .of my failed waiver claim angry
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 7:43pm On Jan 31, 2016
A40:

Steph's. Curry will improve his team as much as LeBron if not more. Looking at the likes of Draymond, Klay, Barnes. The absence of a ball dominant PG has done a lot of good for their career. Will you say Kyrie's game improved under LeBron? Wade? Bosh

As good as everyone screams LeBron is he needed three hall of famers to win two rings. Steph Curry never had that luxury

Steph's stats will not take a hit. We have been through this before while you were questioning his game. He plays within the offense doesn't rely on his athleticism, will he suddenly forget how to shoot?

If anything Steph's skill set would open more opportunities for the role players to become bona fide stars in the league
what will curry give you on a bad team when his shots aren't falling ?
you know curry isn't a two way player so the other will go at him for easy buckets with no bogut or green
Wade was already an established article and bosh expanded his range to become a nice 3point shooter
Steph is a great player in the right team.
when free agency start to pick apart that roster we go see how far.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:21pm On Jan 31, 2016
SIRcumalot:

what will curry give you on a bad team when his shots aren't falling ?
you know curry isn't a two way player so the other will go at him for easy buckets with no bogut or green
Wade was already an established article and bosh expanded his range to become a nice 3point shooter
Steph is a great player in the right team.
when free agency start to pick apart that roster we go see how far.
Read my post well well. Steph Curry is not a ball dominant PG this means other players can take the responsibility of scoring and assisting.

Curry is a very competent defender. Don't let his slight frame deceive you. He's a ball hawk and frequently guards players bigger than him.

That is my point nobody has gone from average to star player playing with LeBron. No one

Wade was a winner, Bosh a star in his own right. Klay and Draymond not so much

Steph won with draft picks

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Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 8:39pm On Jan 31, 2016
A40:

Read my post well well. Steph Curry is not a ball dominant PG this means other players can take the responsibility of scoring and assisting.

Curry is a very competent defender. Don't let his slight frame deceive you. He's a ball hawk and frequently guards players bigger than him.

That is my point nobody has gone from average to star player playing with LeBron. No one

Wade was a winner, Bosh a star in his own right. Klay and Draymond not so much

Steph won with draft picks
you forget in this scenario curry is on a bad team he is the offense and must play passable defense
curry is a below average defender and compare to Bron he is James harden
what about delly right now am sure I can think of more.
so you agree that bosh game improved ?
klay is probably the 2nd best shooter in the league curry made their life easier but they would have been just fine without him.
if it means anything I agree above Earlier that curry is this seasons MVP God forbid any injury.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jan 31, 2016
SIRcumalot:

you forget in this scenario curry is on a bad team he is the offense and must play passable defense
curry is a below average defender and compare to Bron he is James harden
what about delly right now am sure I can think of more.
so you agree that bosh game improved ?
klay is probably the 2nd best shooter in the league curry made their life easier but they would have been just fine without him.
if it means I agree above Earlier that curry is this seasons MVP God forbid any injury.
curry is a below average defender?
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 8:50pm On Jan 31, 2016
Please who are the best defensive point guards in the west? Name them so we can pull up their stats against curry offensively and defensively..... All these curry is a bad defender post is overrated please
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 9:01pm On Jan 31, 2016
Donlittle:
curry is a below average defender?
Paul,Westbrook,conley,rondo,Beverly etc are all in the west and are better defender

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:15pm On Jan 31, 2016
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Re: The NBA Begins by Skywalker5(m): 9:18pm On Jan 31, 2016
joephemzyz:


You got monta Ellis! Nice one bruh grin grin .....so u re d "high priority needs" manager the league board ws referring to, when they notified me .of my failed waiver claim angry

lol. After you steal Pau Gasol from me. you wan collect Monta again. I still never forgive you ooo. grin grin grin grin grin. Na the same message i receive when you steal Pau from me grin grin grin grin grin. you self don feel the way i feel then.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:19pm On Jan 31, 2016
birdman:


LBJ is now a ball hog? The same guy you keep wishing would assert himself and take the last shot? The same guy averaging PG assists. The same guy that gets all the way to the rim, and will then pass for an open 3 instead of taking a floater? Bosh own 2 rings with LBJ's game. An old dwade 2 more. I think they came out just fine.


Second, you cant compare the warriors with the cavs by mentioning klay thompson. The warriors are playing what looks like a princeton offense the Kings used to play when chris webber was at his peak, albeit the warriors have a much better 3pt shooting PG than Bibby was for the kings. So you cant make an individual player comparison. On the Warriors, the center should be in double figures due to the free flowing offense and small ball. On the Cavs, Mozgov for example is a traditional center and will not average more than 10 points. Love will also have to adjust to a more traditional PF role, his points will come down but his rebounds and putbacks should stay the same.
Yes lebron james holds the ball too much and he does not let the offense flow...

Asserting yourself by taking the last shot does not mean you should handle the ball for 40 minutes birdman, For Example, Dirk nowitzki usually takes the last shot, one of the best scorers to ever play this game, the ball does not stay in his hand for so freaking long. This guy lebron handles the ball more than kyrie like he has better handles than him

Oh please lebron needed those guys to get those rings as much as they needed him... Those are three hall of famers! He is currently playing with arguably two more hall of famers in kevin love and Kyrie albeit it is a little bit early
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:29am On Feb 01, 2016
Decale:


IMO, Lillard and Rondo for Thompson and Aldridge respectively. Lillard plays SG while they can do away with a PF after all na charity match. Aldridge especially shouldn't be here cos his inconsistency stinks.

For the east, away with Millsap and put Whiteside. Nobody, I mean nobody is a better defender this season than Whiteside.

Again, na my own opinion...
Whiteside ke? You no even call Gasol

Lillard ahead of Thompson? Based on what?

Well you don talk say na your opinion sha
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:43am On Feb 01, 2016
SIRcumalot:

you forget in this scenario curry is on a bad team he is the offense and must play passable defense
curry is a below average defender and compare to Bron he is James harden
what about delly right now am sure I can think of more.
so you agree that bosh game improved ?
klay is probably the 2nd best shooter in the league curry made their life easier but they would have been just fine without him.
if it means anything I agree above Earlier that curry is this seasons MVP God forbid any injury.
LeBron is a mediocre one on one defender. Anyone who knows the game knows this

Steph Curry would likely play to the strength of his team and invariably make them better

Golden State were a bad team when he came on, they were built from the ground up. I keep asking who is that average role player that has blossomed to a star while playing with LeBron, 12 years in the league you cannot point to one

Delly played dirty and guarded Curry for 3-4 quarters. What has the outcome been since other than decimation?

Nope I don't agree Bosh's game improved

Whether Klay and co would be fine without Steph is moot. Bottom line he didn't need 3 Hall of Famers to win his ring
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:52am On Feb 01, 2016
SIRcumalot:

Paul,Westbrook,conley,rondo,Beverly etc are all in the west and are better defender
Based on what metric I'm curious

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