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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by columbus007(m): 9:32am On Feb 11, 2016
D battle of supremacy,well all I can tell as a bini born is that both yorubas and d binis share same common cultures and traditons,take for instance if a child Is born it takes 7days for christening same as yorubas,bt not wit other tribes,we av so much in common,lets admit all these and embrace peaceful co-existence,the earth is of the Lord and it's fullness thereof,let no man drag nothg by no means undecided

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Blackfire(m): 9:32am On Feb 11, 2016
The day the god (s) created man, even they knew , that wahala dey.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by loschivatos(m): 9:32am On Feb 11, 2016
“The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class. The Oba of Benin is the only one that answers Oba, the rest don’t. But today, we hear Oba here and there, they are all recent adaptations. I am saying categorically that the word Oba is indigenous to Benin and not to Yoruba nation.”

Oba gha-to-pere...

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ceecee0703(m): 9:32am On Feb 11, 2016
how e take concern me! Oba atokpe eeh

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by bllaster: 9:32am On Feb 11, 2016
Enough of all these.

There is no absolute proof to all this claims.
Benin has their side of the story and Yoruba has thiers. If both of them cannot come to a common agreement then its best for the Ooni gbese of ile ife, Alakara of egbaland and Ajibole of ijebu to keep shut.

As for the Benin MisChief Esogban who replied, that was very harsh. Even if you dont agree with the Oba ranking you cant dispute the fact that there is a link between benin and yoruba.

Yoruba which ever way you look at this controversy it still comes to the point that Oduduwa is not a yoruba man so therefore all the kings ruling your lands are not Yoruba.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by aprokomania(m): 9:33am On Feb 11, 2016
while developed nations are researching the cure to HIV and cancer, a bunch of old men here are being paid top dollar for sitting on old stools

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by olapluto(m): 9:35am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in the present day IWOLAND.
The word Oba (king) is not pronounced the same way as Oba (the river). Odo Oba sounds in no way near that of Oba. I think I stand with Benin people on this. No historical basis for a Yoruba king to bear Oba.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by teehay45(m): 9:35am On Feb 11, 2016
9ice response from the Ooni of ife

“Let me emphasize for the umpteenth time that Kabiyesi Ooni is less concerned over any supremacy hullabaloo. He is only interested for now in how the sacred throne of Oduduwa can explore measures through which the collective interest and genuine unity among Yoruba and other tribes within the larger House of Oduduwa can be enhanced.

let the benin's continue to rewrite history. continu!!!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 9:36am On Feb 11, 2016
martineinstein:
Ooni is too young to start unnecessary controversy...the monarch that almost colonized almost the entire southern Nigeria(from Lagos to kogi to bayelsa) and part of middle belt is now under u?.. If not for British punitive expedition of 1896,ooni would have been conquered by oba of Benin....
many first class monarchs are under oba of Benin,especially oba of Lagos,obi of onitsha,asagba of asaba,olu of Warri,dein of agbo etc. Even the traditional bands of Lagos,'eko' is a bini word....ooni should go and rest joor

Oba agha t'okpe e!....ise!
sharrap

Obi of onitsha and Asagba of Asaba are under nobody ..

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by MrPresident1: 9:36am On Feb 11, 2016
Lemon12:
shocked shocked
mulattoclaro , spanishkid , Enahi
This is an insult on benin kingdom and Edo state in general ..

Yorubas are land grabbers ... They will soon claim warri kingdom as the territory

Stop hyperventilating. Let the Oba of Benin come out and say he is not part of the house of Oduduwa.

You people don't know any history, the wise Ooni has avoided using the word 'Yoruba' which is the cause of the whole controversy.

Let Oba of Benin come out and say he is not Oduduwa and this matter will rest forever!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by columbus007(m): 9:36am On Feb 11, 2016
grin
OZAOEKPE:
LIKE THIS 'OWANMBE' KING WAN KPEME, HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN. THE OBA OF BENIN IS NOT LIKE OTHER OBAS THAT THRIVE ON BRIBES, AND THAT MAKES HIS 'JUJU' SO POTENT THAT EVEN THE ONI OF IFE CAN BE 'GUNNED DOWN' BY THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN.
baba you sabi,i greet you grin ,and you knw the Oba of benin doesn't not leave his palace to meet with any Oba,that makes him head of all Obas

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by cao(f): 9:37am On Feb 11, 2016
LWKMD...Man, I needed that laugh, cold dey kill person...
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 9:37am On Feb 11, 2016
JoeBlocks:
I await the Oba of Benin response to this.
Did you in any way read the article?
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by iPopAlomo(m): 9:38am On Feb 11, 2016
Born2Breed:


These are Myths and Folklore's. These was never Sango or whatever.

Btw is it not the same Ooni that goes kneeling before Tinubu and Obasanjo to be nominated and installed as ooni. He should read his history books if his father did not.


Lol... Sango no exist...?! typical Jesus myopic worshipper...

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by portals101: 9:39am On Feb 11, 2016
Pray. When did this idea of Bini is not part of Oduduwa race start?
Lets have another history book abeg!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by columbus007(m): 9:40am On Feb 11, 2016
martineinstein:
Ooni is too young to start unnecessary controversy...the monarch that almost colonized almost the entire southern Nigeria(from Lagos to kogi to bayelsa) and part of middle belt is now under u?.. If not for British punitive expedition of 1896,ooni would have been conquered by oba of Benin....
many first class monarchs are under oba of Benin,especially oba of Lagos,obi of onitsha,asagba of asaba,olu of Warri,dein of agbo etc. Even the traditional bands of Lagos,'eko' is a bini word....ooni should go and rest joor

Oba agha t'okpe e!....ise!
ise,epah u get voice,I greet you cheesy
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by treatise: 9:41am On Feb 11, 2016
blazetitov:

“The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class".

How can the guy from benin be contradicting himself by saying the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin and at the same time saying that the Oba of Benin stool has no relationship with the Yoruba race. I don't get it.

It presupposes that the a Bini was sent to rule over Ife and by extension, the Oni dynasty has Bini root but his subjects are Yorubas.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Nobody: 9:41am On Feb 11, 2016
MrPresident1:


Stop hyperventilating. Let the Oba of Benin come out and say he is not part of the house of Oduduwa.

You people don't know any history, the wise Ooni has avoided using the word 'Yoruba' which is the cause of the whole controversy.

Let Oba of Benin come out and say he is not Oduduwa and this matter will rest forever!

[b] Esogban,who is third in command in the palace of the Oba of Benin, said: “We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba. There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.


“We are not in Yorubaland. "We are not yoruba people. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial. For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egbaland. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin. The word Oba is indigenous to benin only [/b]
How many times do u him to say it??

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by JoeBlocks(m): 9:42am On Feb 11, 2016
Almakura:
Did you in any way read the article?
Nope. I was busy going through your posts.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by columbus007(m): 9:43am On Feb 11, 2016
rhozaay:
why this boy they find trouble? social media Oni of Ife
bros he's an oba,have some chill undecided

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 9:44am On Feb 11, 2016
johnydon22:
This is getting interesting grin educating grin and entertaining grin

But i have seen more than 6 version of this controversial historical saga... well people from OYO should come tell us their own account.

lets see if it supports either the Yoruba version or the bini version
nonsense as a Benin person the foolish oni can only imagine how angry I am,I think he should go and learn his history again,which kind claim claim be this na

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Propertyville: 9:45am On Feb 11, 2016
What insolence the Queen and Oba of Benin, you need medics seriously

Christane:
I even thought dz young ooni wat enlighten enough nw z here talkn abt wat e dnt knw ...d ancient benin kingdom z d most legendary and respected mornachical empire world wide ..even d queen of england no reach oba of benin ..nt to talk of ordinary Ooni making false accusation dat edo state z forge from yoruba land thru oduduwa ...edo have their own language lyk bini,esan,estako,auchi etc etc ...i knw sum yoruba reside in benin bt i dnt knw hw dy get their ...bt d oba of benin as z own class nd cant b match by any king in d world nt to talk of a yoruba king ...

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 9:45am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in the present day IWOLAND.
and so fucking what,what do I know about bini history,
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Okies27(m): 9:47am On Feb 11, 2016
Born2Breed:

The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi, on Tuesday said Benin Kingdom in Edo State remained part of the expansive Yoruba race, a pronouncement that may spark fresh rivalry and altercation between people of the two ancient kingdoms.

The monarch made the comment in reaction to a statement credited to the palace of the Oba of Benin challenging the claim by the Alake of Egbaland, Adedotun Gbadebo, that the Ooni of Ife remained the pre-eminent spiritual leader in Yorubaland and environs.

Oba Ogunwusi, via a statement by his Director of Media and Public Affairs, Moses Olafare, made available to PREMIUM TIMES, said he was not interested in any supremacy battle with anyone but that he would continue to put the records straight and avoid distortion of history from any quarters.

The monarch said going by historical evidence detailing the Oduduwa lineage, Benin Kingdom remained part and parcel of Oduduwa House.

“We in Oduduwa land have always seen and regarded our people in Benin kingdom as part and parcel of Oduduwa House. They are our brothers and sisters, coupled with historical facts to back up this position,” Ooni Ogunwusi said.

“The statement credited to the Alake of Egbaland, did not emanate from us but the reality is that as a highly experienced and well informed monarch, Kabiyesi Alake, who is a bonafide Oodua descendant is entitled to his opinion based on his knowledge and understanding of history,” the Ooni said.

“Let me emphasize for the umpteenth time that Kabiyesi Ooni is less concerned over any supremacy hullabaloo. He is only interest for now in how the sacred throne of Oduduwa can explore measures through which the collective interest and genuine unity among Yoruba and other tribes within the larger House of Oduduwa can be enhanced.

“This informed his resolve to build bridges of harmony among Yourba Obas. I am resolutely committed to how Yoruba ethnic group can restore its glory and pride of position among other ethnic inclinations in Nigeria and don’t want to be dragged into supremacy contest or join issues with anybody.”

The traditional ruler said he recalled that about six years ago, attempt was made by some people to upturn history during the launch of a book titled: I REMAIN SIR, YOUR OBEDIENT SERVANT, which he said stood historical facts on its head.

Oba Ogunwusi stated that If the position espoused by the Oba of Benin Palace in the media “is aimed at distancing our people in Benin from the South West and Yoruba, so be it.”

He however added, “We still identify with them as our kinsmen, regardless of the attempt to change the course of history.”

The Alake had, while hosting the Oba Ogunwusi in his palace on February 7, rated the Ooni as the number one monarch in Yorubaland and other territories considered part of the Oduduwa House.

In his rating, Oba Gbadebo said Oba Ogunwusi was number one of the five principal Obas in Yorubaland, followed by the Alaafin of Oyo, then by the Oba of Benin (in third position), the Alake of Egbaland (fourth) and the Awujale of Ijebuland (fifth).

But in a swift reaction on Tuesday, the Esogban of Benin and Odionwere of the Kingdom, David Edebiri, rejected the ranking, saying the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin and that the Oba of Benin stool has no relationship with the Yoruba race.

The Esogban said, “We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba.

“There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.

“We are not in Yorubaland. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial.

“For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egba land. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.

“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin.

“So it is an unnecessary excursion, an unnecessary attempt to turn history upside down by the Alake by classifying the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy of kings.

“Our own traditional history says that the Ooni of Ife was a Benin Prince who wandered from here to Ife, settled there and became the ruler there. That is the position, if they don’t know, they should send people here; we will teach them.

“We will show them landmarks. So this is unnecessary misrepresentation of history. Maybe the Alake wanted to mention a different place and not Benin.

“The monarchical rulership in this part of the world started from Benin during the era of the Ogisos. It was the son of the last Ogiso, Owodo, that wandered from here to Ife and he became a ruler there, carrying everything about the Benin monarchical system to that place. There is no basis for such classification.

“The Ooni of Ife, by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class. The Oba of Benin is the only one that answers Oba, the rest don’t. But today, we hear Oba here and there, they are all recent adaptations. I am saying categorically that the word Oba is indigenous to Benin and not to Yoruba nation.”




http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/198255-benin-kingdom-edo-yoruba-territory-ooni-ife-adeyeye-ogunwusi.html
. Hmmm. Also heard it that some yoruba States where also subject to the Benin Kingdom during pre-colonial era sequel to the invasion. Our school system so bastardised, history has been relegated to the grave. No research work anymore.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by wiseoneking: 9:47am On Feb 11, 2016
Tunami:
the binis are saying that there is nothing like oba in yorubaland but its a lie because even before they start using the title (oba) people are already answering the name. Sango's second wife's name name is Oba who according to history turned into a river in the present day IWOLAND.
Thats legend. Stop it.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 9:48am On Feb 11, 2016
spaggyy:
yes let them know

The king is here


meanwhile guys see this thread on nairaland on the new way to cure stroke, obesity, burn fat, and obesity
https://www.nairaland.com/2844443/know-anybody-down-stroke
let who know,this useless king does not have anything upstairs

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ariesbull: 9:48am On Feb 11, 2016
Attached by force is allowed..oya edo people defend yourself now or be slaves to the slave

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by omoseth(m): 9:48am On Feb 11, 2016
It seems the Ooni really wants to steer up controversy at this early stage of his reign. I was really expecting him to have refrained from joining issues. Edo ne mose! A Land where Kings are born and not made#Proudofmyrootandculture

Oba gha okpere..Iseeee!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by LifeIsGuhd(f): 9:51am On Feb 11, 2016
martineinstein:
Ooni is too young to start unnecessary controversy...the monarch that almost colonized almost the entire southern Nigeria(from Lagos to kogi to bayelsa) and part of middle belt is now under u?.. If not for British punitive expedition of 1896,ooni would have been conquered by oba of Benin....
many first class monarchs are under oba of Benin,especially oba of Lagos,obi of onitsha,asagba of asaba,olu of Warri,dein of agbo etc. Even the traditional bands of Lagos,'eko' is a bini word....ooni should go and rest joor

Oba agha t'okpe e!....ise!

Ise

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by erusen: 9:51am On Feb 11, 2016
Wendyslim:
Most of dem speak yoruba fluently better than some yoruba born self
have ever heard a Bini person speaking Yoruba,we never speak our language finish na Yoruba we wan go speak.abeg make that oni park well oh

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by badman007(m): 9:51am On Feb 11, 2016
Shame on our educational system for not teaching kids about our very rich History..

Our history seems to be rubbish and swept aside while the myths and stories of the Oyinbo man is key. We prefer to hear stories of how the world was created in 6 days and how Moses parted the red sea with his rod... Haha, what a joke!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by reallest(f): 9:51am On Feb 11, 2016
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OZAOEKPE:
LIKE THIS 'OWANMBE' KING WAN KPEME, HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN. THE OBA OF BENIN IS NOT LIKE OTHER OBAS THAT THRIVE ON BRIBES, AND THAT MAKES HIS 'JUJU' SO POTENT THAT EVEN THE ONI OF IFE CAN BE 'GUNNED DOWN' BY THE GREAT OBA OF BENIN.
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