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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by oodua1stson: 2:50pm On Feb 12, 2016
bllaster:


Well there was a picture of him kneeling in church and he said God is the supreme king. And just recently he invited Pastor Adeboye to his palace. Hmmmm

He cant serve two masters at the same time

By the way who do u serve, orisha ?
I don't serve any god or orisha. Maybe one day I'll serve an orisha but now I'm committed to serving mankind.



It's better to serve my father's god than to waste time serving white man's fake god. A god who capped his pant when ebola was around
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by bllaster: 3:16pm On Feb 12, 2016
oodua1stson:
I don't serve any god or orisha. Maybe one day I'll serve an orisha but now I'm committed to serving mankind.



It's better to serve my father's god than to waste time serving white man's fake god. A god who capped his pant when ebola was around

Why are you shying away from your god. From your answer it seems you ae serving orisha
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Super1Star: 3:19pm On Feb 12, 2016
bllaster:


Of course he wont do that simply because he knows oduduwa is the son of the last ogiso.

And mind you the way yoruba idolises oduduwa is quite different from how benin sees him.
To benin he is a banished prince, to yoruba he is their founder. Take note

What does Izoduwa and Oduduwa hav in common? NOTHING.

From Ekaladerhan to Izoduwa to Imadoduwa. Which one are they actually talking about. The dubious claim is just too obvious. By next week they will even turn it to Oduduwa fully.


Look for your banished prince in the lost city of Atlantis.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by diadem10: 3:28pm On Feb 12, 2016
bllaster:


Of course he wont do that simply because he knows oduduwa is the son of the last ogiso.

And mind you the way yoruba idolises oduduwa is quite different from how benin sees him.
To benin he is a banished prince, to yoruba he is their founder. Take note
What's this one saying?
How many times do you brain-dead have to be told that our Oduduwa has a father, Lamurudu? Does Lamurudu looks like you accursed bini name or your bastard prince's father?
Better don't let me use Sango swear for you!
Lamurudu and Oduduwa we know, Ekharledan we know not other him being a lost bini badstard!
The real fact are the bini' kings' head lying fallow in Ife!

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Malawian(m): 3:30pm On Feb 12, 2016
this thread, just like the one before it is very funny.

yoruba attachee by force honestly believe that should a mythical country evolve to include them and the bini, that they will be the ones to lord it over the bini.

una no dey hear well. the sufferings you have endured from the fulani should be enough for several generations of yoruba yet unborn, but no, una wan add bini for the gala wey dey una head.

ngwa nu.

ka chi na eji na efo. grin grin grin

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by MrGerald(m): 3:33pm On Feb 12, 2016
FisifunKododada:
cool See gobe. It is obvious that in the past (even as late as 1930s) Yoruba and Bini were joined at the hips. However, times have changed. Today, Yoruba is Yoruba and Bini is Bini. And that is the way it should be. The aborigines of Edo State are not Yorubas but the crown is definitely a Yoruba bloodline. And while I agree that the Bini Monarchy gets its authority from Ile-Ife (via DNA aka bloodline), they do not have to do that anymore. They are free to stand alone. For me, this is not even controversial. Live and let live. Most of what is happening is politics. Nigerian politics makes it difficult for people to admit the obvious truth. Smaller ethnic groups are very protective of their identity. Put yourself in the position of the people of Bini. With a population that is barely the size of little old Ekiti, you can see why they would react the way they do. Yorubas are arguably the most successful ethnic group in Nigeria. When you are this successful, bitterness and envy is usually what you get from folks who have not have it as good. But I worry that the Yoruba Nation is not as united as is necessary to continue to expand on our success, as the very nature of Nigeria continues to wobble as the years go by. I am impressed by the current Oni's resolve to do something about this. For this reason alone, he gets my support despite my reservation at some of his post-installment acts. The SW has always been the hub of Nigeria. We open our doors joyfully to all people. While this is a good thing, I believe its time for us to strengthen our unity and look inwards. And we can only do this successfully, if we avoid getting embroiled in silly controversial issues like the aforementioned. Yorubaparapo.com. Yoruba ronu. Let's go.
sorry bro Yorubas are falling behind even so called minority tribes, read it here https://www.naij.com/441183-yoruba-youths-have-lost-influence-respect-of-nigerians.html
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by diadem10: 3:36pm On Feb 12, 2016
Malawian:
this thread, just like the one before it is very funny.

yoruba attachee by force honestly believe that should a mythical country evolve to include them and the bini, that they will be the ones to lord it over the bini.

una no dey hear well. the sufferings you have endured from the fulani should be enough for several generations of yoruba yet unborn, but no, una wan add bini for the gala wey dey una head.

ngwa nu.

ka chi na eji na efo. grin grin grin
At least we have history unlike ibos that has no ancestral history!
Someone even implied that if you ask of the progenitor of ibos between an Anambra and Abia man, na for dere, dey go take kill themselves!
LOL!

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Gamesmart: 3:43pm On Feb 12, 2016
APCcrimes:


You stay in Benin?

Why does that matter?
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Malawian(m): 3:43pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

At least we have history unlike ibos that has no ancestral history!
Someone even implied that if you ask of the progenitor of ibos between an Anambra and Abia man, na for dere, dey go take kill themselves!
LOL!
ok.
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by oodua1stson: 3:48pm On Feb 12, 2016
bllaster:


Why are you shying away from your god. From your answer it seems you ae serving orisha
which god are you talking about? If it's jesus or the christian god then count me out. I'll never serve him or worship him



But if it's the Orisha then I'm only astray for the moment, I'll soon be back to him gringrin grin

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by class0247: 3:54pm On Feb 12, 2016
The ruler of Benin oraminyan was sky god while the Yoruba condition Oduduwa as god from the sky

It explain itself...Oduduwa is simply from the sky gods in Benin
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by bllaster: 4:17pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

What's this one saying?
How many times do you brain-dead have to be told that our Oduduwa has a father, Lamurudu? Does Lamurudu looks like you accursed bini name or your bastard prince's father?
Better don't let me use Sango swear for you!
Lamurudu and Oduduwa we know, Ekharledan we know not other him being a lost bini badstard!
The real fact are the bini' kings' head lying fallow in Ife!

Oga i’m not from benin. Im only talking from all that i have gathered from this topic
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 4:30pm On Feb 12, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:


Eweka was the First Oba Of benin, after the Ogiso dynasty .

And Eweka is the son of Oranmiyan a Yoruba man

Eweka I (1180–1246)
Uwuakhuahen (1246–1250)
Henmihen (1250–1260)
Ewedo (1260–1274)

Oranmiyan was son of Benin Prince Ekaladerhan who became Ododuwa.

Oduduwa did not magic from Any Arabia (not even China or Vietnam grin). He came from much closer: Benin or Igodomigodo as it was called then.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by diadem10: 5:50pm On Feb 12, 2016
AreaFada2:


Oranmiyan was son of Benin Prince Ekaladerhan who became Ododuwa.

Oduduwa did not magic from Any Arabia (not even China or Vietnam grin). He came from much closer: Benin or Igodomigodo as it was called then.
How does your stupid Ekaladerhan became Oduduwa?
What's stopping you Bini revisionist from backing up such claim with facts! Atleast our odu ifa infer that Lamurudu was Odudu'wa's father! Hence, where's bini's fact instead of conjectures just like the Bini empire was all myth too with no historical facts!

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by OBAGADAFFI: 6:04pm On Feb 12, 2016
AreaFada2:


Oranmiyan was son of Benin Prince Ekaladerhan who became Ododuwa.

Oduduwa did not magic from Any Arabia (not even China or Vietnam grin). He came from much closer: Benin or Igodomigodo as it was called then.

And why did your Ekaladerhan give his son a Yoruba name. grin
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by OBAGADAFFI: 6:09pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

How does your stupid Ekaladerhan became Oduduwa?
What's stopping you Bini revisionist from backing up such claim with facts! Atleast our odu ifa infer that Lamurudu was Odudu'wa's father! Hence, where's bini's fact instead of conjectures just like the Bini empire was all myth too with no historical facts!

Just ignore these people.
They don't understand their history.
This Picture might interest you.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by elohorayodele: 6:21pm On Feb 12, 2016
stevenhood2000:
Ooni Adesoji Aderemi (centre) To his left is Colonial British Governor of Nigeria, next, Oba Akenzua of Benin and Oba Ademola, Alake of Abeokuta. To Ooni's right, Oba Oladigbolu, Alaafin of Oyo town, and Oba Adesanya Gbelegbuwa, Awujale of ijebu ode.

Courtesy: Hon. ''Ipoola Ahmed Omisore''




http://plusmouth..com.ng/2016/02/photo-senior-yoruba-obas-in-year-1937.html

The caption was clearly photo-shopped. Look at the right hand side of the caption.
Deceit and lies pays no one, stop spreading or manufacturing them
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 8:15pm On Feb 12, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:


And why did your Ekaladerhan give his son a Yoruba name. grin


Well, in Benin history his name was Omonoyan. Means beloved or pampered child.
Very common name in times old.

Can you tell me how popular or unique the name "Oranmiyan" was around middle of 12th Ife and what did the name mean then? We learn daily.

If you read my previous posts here on NL, I have mentioned Omonoyan before.

In any case, even if he decided to name him a Yoruba name, it could just be political. To strengthen claim to Ife Royalty.

Remember that Oranmiyan's mother wasn't a Benin Woman. Possibly one of the elite-born ladies of Ife.

For example, in Benin, Oranmiyan married a princess, the daughter of the Enogie/Duke of Egor. Egor today is a local govt area in Benin City and the Duke of Egor is still very much a senior duke of Benin Kingdom. Benin Dukes, with exception of VERY VERY few ancient ones, are all princes and descendants of princes of Benin Kingdom.

I write long essays here for the benefit of those who don't know the rich & detailed history of Benin.
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 8:22pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

How does your stupid Ekaladerhan became Oduduwa?
What's stopping you Bini revisionist from backing up such claim with facts! Atleast our odu ifa infer that Lamurudu was Odudu'wa's father! Hence, where's bini's fact instead of conjectures just like the Bini empire was all myth too with no historical facts!

Lol. I have explained that here on NL over many years. Even in my previous few posts yesterday & today. If you genuinely want a civilised debate & for comparison, see my previous posts.

If you prefer to wallow in ignorance, cursing & swearing, don't bother.
I see a very poorly informed person and ill-mannerism in your angry outburst. grin cheesy

Making a valid point is not by behaving like motor park agbero. grin
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 8:28pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

How does your stupid Ekaladerhan became Oduduwa?
What's stopping you Bini revisionist from backing up such claim with facts! Atleast our[b] odu ifa infer that Lamurudu was Odudu'wa's father[/b]! Hence, where's bini's fact instead of conjectures just like the Bini empire was all myth too with no historical facts!

Ok. Let me consult ifa:

Okan meji...

Odu mefa...

Ah, good news. Ifa says there's hope. You will know more when you open your mind and read wider. grin cheesy
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 9:02pm On Feb 12, 2016
OBAGADAFFI:


Just ignore these people.
They don't understand their history.
This Picture might interest you.

Oba Erediauwa did a nationwide thank-you tour after coronation. NATIONWIDE, up to Sokoto! We also have pics of him in my uncle's palace, the Duke of my town. grin cheesy
Having said that, Benin Royal family & every one with even a drop of royal blood hold Ife (called Uhe in Benin) in very very high esteem.
The reason is simple. Ife gave refuge to the Benin prince, Ekaladerhan, who became Ododuwa.

Otherwise, the Ogiso dynasty that began in about 40BC would have been lost.

With the kindness & generosity of Ife people, Benin has a royal family stretching back to 40BC, the same year the Roman senate appointed Herod as king of Judaea!
The only major break was between 1100 AD & 1169 AD. The current dynasty began in 1169 AD.
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by naijaboiy: 9:04am On Feb 13, 2016
oodua1stson:
if the punch he threw hit you then you're indeed an ipob kid and your lord and saviour nnamdi kanu will die in jail


You can go cry on the grave of your failure hero ojukwu
Lol! grin

This guy is just a tool sha!

I'm an Ipob kid because you said so? Keep second guessing about what is so obvious but yet you can never know. cheesy
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by oodua1stson: 9:45am On Feb 13, 2016
naijaboiy:

Lol! grin

This guy is just a tool sha!

I'm an Ipob kid because you said so? Keep second guessing about what is so obvious but yet you can never know. cheesy
seriously who gives a crap about you and your life? I'm only saying it because you're upset about a comment your name wasn't even mentioned in.



It's about time you change your to biafcrap boy or ojukwu slave or nnamdi kanu follower.



Not really surprised about your foolery, you lots are idiots
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by naijaboiy: 11:19am On Feb 13, 2016
oodua1stson:
seriously who gives a crap about you and your life? I'm only saying it because you're upset about a comment your name wasn't even mentioned in.



It's about time you change your to biafcrap boy or ojukwu slave or nnamdi kanu follower.



Not really surprised about your foolery, you lots are idiots
gringrin

Still don't get it do you? grin
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by oodua1stson: 11:27am On Feb 13, 2016
naijaboiy:

gringrin

Still don't get it do you? grin
piss off
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Super1Star: 1:44pm On Feb 13, 2016
AreaFada2:


Oba Erediauwa did a nationwide thank-you tour after coronation. NATIONWIDE, up to Sokoto! We also have pics of him in my uncle's palace, the Duke of my town. grin cheesy
Having said that, Benin Royal family & every one with even a drop of royal blood hold Ife (called Uhe in Benin) in very very high esteem.
The reason is simple. Ife gave refuge to the Benin prince, Ekaladerhan, who became Ododuwa.

Otherwise, the Ogiso dynasty that began in about 40BC would have been lost.

With the kindness & generosity of Ife people, Benin has a royal family stretching back to 40BC, the same year the Roman senate appointed Herod as king of Judaea!
The only major break was between 1100 AD & 1169 AD. The current dynasty began in 1169 AD.

What is the correlation between your Ekaladerhan that followed a mermaid to the lost city of Atlantis and Oduduwa.

Which one are you guys even talking about. From Ekaladerhan, you twisted it to Izoduwa. Not satisfied with your own naming process, you re-engineered it to Imadoduwa.

In the meantime, go to your Oba's palace and ask him what the festival of Ugie Erha Oba connotes in your Oba's history.

Also ask him the gifts that the Chiefs always presented to him during the Igue festival, where do they tell him it came from?

Look for your lost Ekaladerhan somewhere else.

We are initiating that Bini people are not yorubas, but the throne, crown, title and current dynasty is of Yoruba lineage and that is an undeniable fact.

it has been proven all over the world that the Ife Brass work predates that of Benin. That is another undeniable facy.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 4:12pm On Feb 13, 2016
Super1Star:


What is the correlation between your Ekaladerhan that followed a mermaid to the lost city of Atlantis and Oduduwa.

Which one are you guys even talking about. From Ekaladerhan, you twisted it to Izoduwa. Not satisfied with your own naming process, you re-engineered it to Imadoduwa.

In the meantime, go to your Oba's palace and ask him what the festival of Ugie Erha Oba connotes in your Oba's history.

Also ask him the gifts that the Chiefs always presented to him during the Igue festival, where do they tell him it came from?

Look for your lost Ekaladerhan somewhere else.

We are initiating that Bini people are not yorubas, but the throne, crown, title and current dynasty is of Yoruba lineage and that is an undeniable fact.

it has been proven all over the world that the Ife Brass work predates that of Benin. That is another undeniable facy.



Read my previous posts dude. How the name Izoduwa, interchangeable with Imadoduwa came about. Very consistent from earliest times.

Benin has been pretty centralised from a very long time and history of that single monarchy very consistent. No rival ruling houses in Benin trying to create stories to try bolster their entitlement/claim.

Even today, nothing like court cases involving succession as it litters some tribes in 9ja. Or where obas are deposed by court or government arbitrarily. Makes Benin pretty unique for consistency.

Benin never claim to be first to do brass work. But whenever Benin started, it was done to the highest level possible anywhere in the world then. Or is there anywhere that is claimed? Please show me. Metal works began in Africa thousands of years ago. Has been done in many places.

Benin people don't wake up one morning to make any claims. They usually respond to very amateur, ridiculous and futile attempts by egotistic tribalists to rewrite history. There are some who find it hard to swallow the fact that in each talk about African civilisation, Benin is always one of the first to be mentioned. And when foreign documentary makers like BBC narrate African History, a prominent place is given to Benin Empire.
Try as they may to detract, history is there for discerning minds.

Benin people are pretty comfortable in their own skin. All the issues Nigeria has today and the little role for minorities was a major reason Benin resisted Britain to keep its empire.

When that failed, Benin realised the disaster and historical setback it will be. So no surprise that all kind of people want to rewrite history now, even backwater vassals of yore. grin cheesy

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Super1Star: 4:26pm On Feb 13, 2016
AreaFada2:



Read my previous posts dude. How the name Izoduwa, interchangeable with Imadoduwa came about. Very consistent from earliest times.

Benin has been pretty centralised from a very long time and history of that single monarchy very consistent. No rival ruling houses in Benin trying to create stories to try bolster their entitlement/claim.

Even today, nothing like court cases involving succession as it litters some tribes in 9ja. Or where obas are deposed by court or government arbitrarily. Makee Benin pretty unique for consistency.

Benin never claim to be first to do brass work. But whenever Benin started, it was done to the highest level possible anywhere in the world then. Or is there anywhere that is claimed? Please show me. Metal works began in Africa thousands of years ago. Has been done in many places.

Benin people don't wake up one morning to make any claims. They usually respond to very amateur, ridiculous and futile attempts by egotistic tribalists to rewrite history. There are some who find it hard to swallow the fact that in each talk about African civilisation, Benin is always one of the first to be mentioned. And when foreign documentary makers like BBC narrate African History, a prominent place is given to Benin Empire.
Try as they may to detract, history is there for discerning minds.

Benin people are pretty comfortable in their skin. All the issues Nigeria has today and the little role for minorities was a major reason Benin resisted Britain to keep its empire.

When that failed, Benin realised the disaster and historical setback it will be. So no surprise that all kind of people want to rewrite history now, even backwater vassals of yore. grin cheesy

We never said Benin people are Yorubas. They are not are they will never be.

The fact remains the Benin throne,crown and title are all Yorubas. No controversy.

Read up on the reason Ugie Erha festival came to be. Read up on your Igue festival and where gifts to the Oba are always claimed to have come from. Read up on the deities Oranmiyan brought to Ile-Ibinu.

You have to do better than your guess work of Izoduwa or Imadoduwa or Ekaladerhan or whatever name you guys chose to call him, wandered to.

Mind you, the Palace of Ooni WAS NEVER desecrated by ANYBODY.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 4:50pm On Feb 13, 2016
Super1Star:


What is the correlation between your Ekaladerhan that followed a mermaid to the lost city of Atlantis and Oduduwa.

Which one are you guys even talking about. From Ekaladerhan, you twisted it to Izoduwa. Not satisfied with your own naming process, you re-engineered it to Imadoduwa.

In the meantime, go to your Oba's palace and ask him what the festival of Ugie Erha Oba connotes in your Oba's history.

Also ask him the gifts that the Chiefs always presented to him during the Igue festival, where do they tell him it came from?

Look for your lost Ekaladerhan somewhere else.

We are initiating that Bini people are not yorubas, but the throne, crown, title and current dynasty is of Yoruba lineage and that is an undeniable fact.

it has been proven all over the world that the Ife Brass work predates that of Benin. That is another undeniable facy.


Fact is Benin gave Ododuwa to Ife. So whatever returned from Ife was originally BENIN.

My own analysis from Benin history is guess work while your own spurious claims are gospel truth, right? tongue grin

Obviously you were the midwife who attended to Ododuwa's mother in labour, and you should know the truth authoritatively. tongue

Dude, no ogboju tactics will work here.

You have your history, Benin have theirs and will remain so till the end of time.
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Super1Star: 5:29pm On Feb 13, 2016
AreaFada2:


Fact is Benin gave Ododuwa to Ife. So whatever returned from Ife was originally BENIN.

My own analysis from Benin history is guess work while your own spurious claims are gospel truth, right? tongue grin

Obviously you were the midwife who attended to Ododuwa's mother in labour, and you should know the truth authoritatively. tongue

Dude, no ogboju tactics will work here.

You have your history, Benin have theirs and will remain so till the end of time.

You are well entitled to your opinion.

A fact remains a fact and they are:

1. Oranmiyan is the father of Eweka

2. Oranmiyan named benin

3. Eweka's dynasty throne crown and title still stands till today.

Those are facts that are not disputable anywhere we are very OK with that. It gives legitimacy to our claim of the crown.

Claim of wandering prince cannot be substantiated. Did he wandered to the east or to the west or north or into the sea?

Show us historicals that backs your claim.

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Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by AreaFada2: 7:35pm On Feb 13, 2016
Super1Star:


You are well entitled to your opinion.

A fact remains a fact and they are:

1. Oranmiyan is the father of Eweka

2. Oranmiyan named benin

3. Eweka's dynasty throne crown and title still stands till today.

Those are facts that are not disputable anywhere we are very OK with that. It gives legitimacy to our claim of the crown.

Claim of wandering prince cannot be substantiated. Did he wandered to the east or to the west or north or into the sea?

Show us historicals that backs your claim.
Your motto: repeat lies and Propaganda frequently, some might just believe it. Sorry. Not this time. You have many crowns in Yoruba land. Two a penny there. Keep those and 4get ojukokoro on other people's achievement. grin cheesy
Re: Photo Of Senior Yoruba Obas In 1937 by Myde4naija(m): 3:22pm On Feb 14, 2016
tonychristopher:


But there is Oba in igbo language though it means different thing altogether
thanks for clearing it, oBA in Yoruba means KING

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