One Nigeria by force.

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ZombieNation:
Foolishness of the highest order.

In a time most of the developed nations are scaling down on the numerical strength of their military in preference of a lean mean killing machine, this dunce thinks modern warfare is down to the number of potential bullet catchers.

This move is geared towards absolviing more of his illiterate bokos into the army which he intends to send to their graves fighting jihad for Saudi Arabia.

Let the nonsense continue under the dullard

No matter how much those nations desire to scale down the size of the army, the armed forces of Nigeria a nation of 170 million people is well too little at 100,000 men

We also need to drastically increase our police force to match our population, the move to delegate civil duties such as state road patrol eg to LASTMA, Civil defence etc can reduce the dependency on the police who have more pressing issues.

We can also reduce need for a large standing force by giving young citizens the opportunity to engage in 1-3 years service instead of NYSC for instance

IbnSultaan:


We are seriously undermanned in terms of security operatives.
DSS under manned reason for inability to cover all grounds to acquire crucial Intel's.
police undermanned their number ineffective to cover our large land mass n population

Army under manned due to
population size and need in various ISO across the country
peacekeeping missions.


Don't forget the GOAL IS TO INCREASE NUMBERS ALONG SIDE ENQUIRING NMODERNIZATIONN

Leave the illiterates , we are bodered on three fronts with countries who are unstable politically and are at odds with us in principle.

We have an expansive borderline if war breaks out with Cameroon tomorrow it would not be funny

sweetgala

Nigeria Army will continue to play crucial role in internal security
so also Peace Keeping obligations will continue to rise. we need the number +200 to effectively carryout duties of containing internal / external threat. As well as keeping to foreign policy of maintaining peace in Africa

ZombieNation:


Is the army waging war on its citizens?

The US population is 350 million but they are scaling down on their army

China has come out to state that it will reduce its military force of 3 million to a million. This is China with over 1.5bn people

What logic other than to kill and intimidate your own citizenry warrants this foolishness?

With Nigeria heading for serious recession and bankruptcy how does the dullard hope to maintain such large force of men during peacetime?


The army is not designed for civilian policing but for existential and external threats.

Review our constitution and corporate unity since all conflicts in Nigeria stem from that weak document.

Nigeria's civil unrest are first and foremost politically induced and as such only sincere dialogue and not brute force can solve it.

They want full sharia in the north, I say let them have it.

The Niger Delta wants full resource control, then why not? After all its their oil

The Biafrans want a return to true republic. You hate them and are quick to attack then in your north. Grant them their autonomy and see if they will venture into your sharia enclave

We are not China we don't have the advanced technology that can mitigate the need for a large army.

sweetgala:


Leave the illiterates , we are bodered on three fronts with countries who are unstable politically and are at odds with us in principle.

We have an expansive borderline if war breaks out with Cameroon tomorrow it would not be funny

we are still trying to arrest the situation caused by the fall of Ghaddafi

What happens if Niger,Chad,CMR explode remember the have ageing leaders n possibility of a rebellion is there. AQIP is also in Mali

At the end it's Boko Haram members that will join them to cover their tracks. Be careful not to enlist Boko Haram members.

But how is this possible in the light of outright dismissal of its personnel as it involves disciplinary punishment.Several BN in Maiduguri have made dismissal a viable routine in military routine.

[size=14pt]B00hari continues his aim to Northernize the country

Northocracy.

Govt of the North, by the North, For the North[/size]

Hope the bh will not be recruited by chance

IbnSultaan:

we are still trying to arrest the situation caused by the fall of Ghaddafi

What happens if Niger,Chad,CMR explode remember the have ageing leaders n possibility of a rebellion is there. AQIP is also in Mali

Some people have forgotten that Cameroon have a dictator facilitated and imposed by US and France, there is also the french influence in Chad, north of that is the Mali and Kanye situation which is not scaling down anything.

Lybian small arms are flowing into Chad at an alarming rate and that would cause so much trouble in the future for a secular country which has grand African desires.

Obiagelli:
More recurrent expenditure, I prefer better equiped police, state policing as a matter of fact

Excellently correct. Even if we recruit a million soldiers, we will continue to have problems of insecurity as long as we have centralization of police apparatus like ours. We keep underestimating the importance and effectiveness of community or state policing. Good government will work out on the areas of threats and explore the opportunities therein.

idupaul:


So you think 200k men to defend a nation of 180 million is too much . For urgent information was the numerical strength of the Army after the civil war before Obasanjo scaled them down to 100. .please show me any nation above a 100 millions that has less fighting men that Nigeria

You and ibnsultaan are both military illiterate.

Do Switzerland have a standing military.? No

Why is it that no nation threatens/threatened her including Hitler Germany.? Compulsory military training

You don't need a large army to defend a nation.

Give all your citizens military training and when the need to go to war arises, you call them to defend the nation.

So tell your dull President to make military weapons training for NYSC compulsory so that they won't be need to maintain a large army and if war arises, we can raise a large army to win the war within few weeks after which everyone goes back to his normal life. >

ZombieNation:
Foolishness of the highest order.

In a time most of the developed nations are scaling down on the numerical strength of their military in preference of a lean mean killing machine, this dunce thinks modern warfare is down to the number of potential bullet catchers.

This move is geared towards absolviing more of his illiterate bokos into the army which he intends to send to their graves fighting jihad for Saudi Arabia.

Let the nonsense continue under the dullard

Stop thinking like a goat

With high rate of unemployment, it's a welcome development.

[quote author=ZombieNation post=42863268][/quote]
It is high time jobless wailer like u join Army & fight Boko haram,instead of street fighting & dieing without honor,Govt promise 2 employ 500thousand teachers u complain,they raise capital expenditure to 30% u complain,wetin una want.do u know how many of u will b takn off d streets.instaed of engaging in cultism,robbery,kidnapping,419,or thuggery.

IbnSultaan:
sweetgala

Nigeria Army will continue to play crucial role in internal security
so also Peace Keeping obligations will continue to rise. we need the number +200 to effectively carryout duties of containing internal / external threat. As well as keeping to foreign policy of maintaining peace in Africa

Africa is burning and if Nigeria wants to realize it's potential we can't close our eyes to this sad reality, Mugabe and Biya would be dead in 10 years probably less and that can spell a lot of trouble and instability for Africa, Lybia continues to implode and Egypt are yet to stabilize.

Kenya would have a tough time steming the advance of their new found terrorism , we need that 200,000 force, it does not need to be a standing army, we can operate a Army reseve system, or something similar to US where soldiers can do tour missions.

ZombieNation:


China, US and Russia are scaling down on the numerical strength of their military and are turning their military over to high end technology.


An SU-27 air to ground fighter jet will make mince meat of a whole division.

A 21yr old USAF drone pilot will take out any large gathering of infantry with a single push of a button in any part of the world from a comfy base in Nevada after which he will watch it on CNN with his buddies over a beer.

They are not strengthening the army but absolviing their boko lunatics into it which they intend to unleash on civilians .

This is foolishness of the highest order.

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Number also count as they say "two heads are better than one"

It will also reduce the unemployment rate...

PDPïgs

ZombieNation:


China, US and Russia are scaling down on the numerical strength of their military and are turning their military over to high end technology.


An SU-27 air to ground fighter jet will make mince meat of a whole division.

A 21yr old USAF drone pilot will take out any large gathering of infantry with a single push of a button in any part of the world from a comfy base in Nevada after which he will watch it on CNN with his buddies over a beer.

They are not strengthening the army but absolviing their boko lunatics into it which they intend to unleash on civilians .

This is foolishness of the highest order.

Do Drone has pilot?do u know d strenght of US,china,Russian Army even if they scale down,do u know d Boost a large army gives to d economy of those kun3,military personnel are heavy spenders,sellers,contractors,manufacturers of APC,guns,warplanes,warships,bombs,beers,wines,grocery,sports equipments benefits,miltary has schools,hospitals which also employed teachers,medics,nurses,build Bridges,roads ther4 employ engineers,architects infact d military is a community inside a larger community,just reduce USA defence budget to 10% & See how US economy will crash.
stop this foolish thinking Scale down d Military & see Militants,Terrorists,fill in d Gap.

ZombieNation:


Is the army waging war on its citizens?

The US population is 350 million but they are scaling down on their army

China has come out to state that it will reduce its military force of 3 million to a million. This is China with over 1.5bn people

What logic other than to kill and intimidate your own citizenry warrants this foolishness?

With Nigeria heading for serious recession and bankruptcy how does the dullard hope to maintain such large force of men during peacetime?


The army is not designed for civilian policing but for existential and external threats.

Review our constitution and corporate unity since all conflicts in Nigeria stem from that weak document.

Nigeria's civil unrest are first and foremost politically induced and as such only sincere dialogue and not brute force can solve it.

They want full sharia in the north, I say let them have it.

The Niger Delta wants full resource control, then why not? After all its their oil

The Biafrans want a return to true republic. You hate them and are quick to attack then in your north. Grant them their autonomy and see if they will venture into your sharia enclave

I'll quote you a million times you know why? you make perfect sense.

The problem I have with Nigeria is lack of focus and priority

Why increase army
Why not increase education,infrastructure etc

1000 intelligent corps will defeat 200k army battalion

History proved it in
Sparta wars
Isreali Arab wars
Biafrans war



The key thing is intelligence, education

Quality is better than quantity


.oh bubu

billyG:

Do Drone has pilot?do u know d strenght of US,china,Russian Army even if they scale down,do u know d Boost a large army gives to d economy of those kun3,military personnel are heavy spenders,sellers,contractors,manufacturers of APC,guns,warplanes,warships,bombs,beers,wines,grocery,sports equipments benefits,miltary has schools,hospitals which also employed teachers,medics,nurses,build Bridges,roads ther4 employ engineers,architects infact d military is a community inside a larger community,just reduce USA defence budget to 10% & See how US economy will crash.
stop this foolish thinking Scale down d Military & see Militants,Terrorists,fill in d Gap.

This is bunkum

sweetgala:


No matter how much those nations desire to scale down the size of the army, the armed forces of Nigeria a nation of 170 million people is well too little at 100,000 men

We also need to drastically increase our police force to match out population, the move to delegate civil duties such as state road patrol, etc to LASTMA, Civil defence etc can reduce the dependency on the police.

We can also reduce need for a large standing force by giving young citizens the opportunity to engage in 1-3 years service instead of NYSC for instance

Perfect answer for ibnsultaan and brainless President.

ZombieNation:


Go and educate yourself before you quote me


Zombie

You should rather educate yourself before you mislead others with your cheap access to the Internet. Your America gods could not do the job in Iraq with a button as you want all to believe. With all their tech ISIS is still in operation. What you don,t know don't comment on. ITK. It is not your father's sorry ass that will be used to fund the expansion. And your equipment must also be matched by requisite manpower idiot. Half baked educationists always comparing Nigeria with America. Check out the statistics between these two countries and see why we are proud to be Nigerians. For a start, one state i.e. Texas is as large as Nigeria and they have 50 Buffon. America this America that.

wirinet:



I agree with your point on a leaner and meaner military, but disagree on your dialogue proposals. Also try and make your points without so much anger and hatred.

Due to the nature of the treats Nigeria faces, we need no more than 80,000 military personnel, 100,000 at most. what we need is modern hardware and training. Boko Haram fighters are no more than 5,000 ill trained but adequately equipped fighters. Believe me, a force of no more than 10,000 men (due to the large area of operation) with adequate weapons and air cover will wipe out boko Haram in a matter of 3 months. Ordinary hunters with dane guns were able to drive boko Haram out of some villages.

Ditto for nigerdelta militants, a well equipped navy with adequate equipment would make minced meat of the militants. but the Nigeria navy rely on outdated gun boats donated by US to fight militants in the creeks.

Now, about allowing Sharia. Allowing full Sharia as a state policy in any part of Nigeria is a recipe for disaster. When ever religion becomes a state policy, it leads to conflicts between religion and state. Most modern states are separating religion from state to ensure peace and stability.

Resource control in the form of returning land ownership to original owners of resource rich land is the ideal and allowing the owners make decisions on how the their land is exploited. Agreed taxes to both the federal and state governments should then be negotiated and agreed on. Even this resource control can lead to disastrous consequences. The families, communities and tribes might war among themselves to gain control of resource rich lands.
As an example, i have a large piece (over the150 hectares) of land that was under government acquisition and was in the process of being released to the original owners. Initially, it was only 3 families that was involved and had been processing the release for the past 10 year, anytime the final papers are to be signed another family would petition the FG claiming ownership of the said land. As of today 6 families are almost at war over the ownership of the land, and the land had not even been approved. Now imagine what would happen if there was oil on the land.
Another contentious issue over resource control would be off-shore oil. How would of-shore resources be distributed? please not that our economic exclusive zone is proportional to the landmass, so without northern landmass, our exclusive economic zone would reduce. Cameroon would encroach on most oil fields belonging to Akwa Ibom and cross rivers state.

great point bro!

As long as they are provided with the necessary equipment (Hoping Dasuki gate and the 'ineffectuality' of the buffoon is not repeated)to function no wahala or I will prefer a compact mobile highly trained and equipped military.

EternalTruths:


You and ibnsultaan are both military illiterate.

Do Switzerland have a standing military.? No

Why is it that no nation threatens/threatened her including Hitler Germany.? Compulsory military training

You don't need a large army to defend a nation.

Give all your citizens military training and when the need to go to war arises, you call them to defend the nation.

So tell your dull President to make military weapons training for NYSC compulsory so that they won't be need to maintain a large army and if war arises, we can raise a large army to win the war within few weeks after which everyone goes back to his normal life. >

Given miltary training to everybody so that everybody,unemployed corpers can get a gun &start Robbing,murdering, & kidnapping evrything that moves abi,D reason Y we still hav little peace is that majority has never touch a gun b4 not 2 talk of having & using it.U b confirm dullard!

What could be more stupid than this? The emphasis now should be on expanding and re-orientating the police force, not increasing the number of military personnel in the country. What are those guys actually doing sef? Seriously? Even 100,000 is too much. Their idleness is why they have all the time on their hands to bully the same paople who pay their salaries. You want to contain a protest, you deploy soldiers. Wetin concern soldier concern civilian protest? I keep saying it, the best way forward in this country is zero-military. We won't be the first to try it and we certainly won't be the last.

ZombieNation:


China, US and Russia are scaling down on the numerical strength of their military and are turning their military over to high end technology.


An SU-27 air to ground fighter jet will make mince meat of a whole division.

A 21yr old USAF drone pilot will take out any large gathering of infantry with a single push of a button in any part of the world from a comfy base in Nevada after which he will watch it on CNN with his buddies over a beer.

They are not strengthening the army but absolviing their boko lunatics into it which they intend to unleash on civilians .

This is foolishness of the highest order.

God bless you!I taught I alone had this thought. May God bless you with more wisdom.

Let them learn from terrorist groups for once that height doesn't matter if there is a will to perform.

billyG:

Given miltary training to everybody so that everybody,unemployed corpers can get a gun &start Robbing,murdering, & kidnapping evrything that moves abi,D reason Y we still hav little peace is that majority has never touch a gun b4 not 2 talk of having & using it.U b confirm dullard!

If you and ibnsultaan are not illiterates, you guys will learn from Switzerland.

Is Nigeria more safe than Switzerland.?


We don't need large standing military but a large reserve military system through NYSC .

Copy Switzerland