AlMuflihah:


And I feel really irked by your post shifting method, first of all, if you really think you want to display your frustrations, you could open different threads to answer one question at a time that you find incomprehensible and invite me to them. I see you lumping so many things together and just can't stand that unacademic approach. So please this thread is about your esteemed G.J.O. Moshay's display of ignorance of the Arabic language. So henceforth I would only respond to intelligent replies from you on this topic alone. If you need tutoring on any other topic related to Islam, open another thread(s) and invite me to it...

true2god:
I wont be comfortable in your ignorance and will continue exposing the arab imperial machinery which is islam.

On arabic language you held so much in a high esteem, it is either you are an arab yourself or a highly islamically brainwashed person that is groomed to promote arabian language and culture over your indigenous language which mother nature blessed you with.

mauriceju2:
Christians or MUMUSLEMS who don't have time to use intellects?. Just tell me how much or what you can say to make a Christian to tie bomb and blow himself up in the name of Jesus to kill an infidel? Muslims are the highest MUMU in the solar system

Keenysbojan:


My Christians brethren please don't argue with lairs... Just calm down and read the lies that devil himself engineered

vzkpswaqnkhgytd:


Spreading shirk -2
Go repent

AlMuflihah:

Thank God that at least you attempted to learn a foreign language. If you are sincere with yourself and not as much of a liar as G.J.O Moshay you will understand how difficult and easily misinterpreted some words get and how many parables loss meanings when translated to another language. And besides ask any linguist he will tell u how deficient the English language is in interpreting Arabic, just like trying to use English to interprete Hausa, I bet you will most likely lose all the beauty of the Language. And note eastern languages are different from western languages in quality and sweetness, I say this because I learnt both. So before you start quoting verses distorted to English by someone who is looking for misguidance or someone still learning Arabic, go first and learn the language then you can talk about the verse. Before then just keep mute because those English translations just make you guys look like ignorant rain-drenched he-goats.

And please help me translate this yoruba proverb to English without distorting the original meaning and words...
'omo osan lon ko ponpo ba iya e'...

Go back and learn Arabic and feel the beauty of eloquence not found in any other language...

truthmans2012:



It is the fruits of an orange tree that make people stone it.

It is totally unacceptable for muslims to hide under the lie that you cannot understand Arabic perfectly. Why should God choose a language not perfectly understandable by people to worship Him? To create confusion?

I learnt the leader of ISIL has a PhD in islamic studies and yet leading a terrorist group. He must have researched and discovered the in-and-out of islam. Doesn't he understand Arabic as well?

truthmans2012:



It is the fruits of an orange tree that make people stone it.

It is totally unacceptable for muslims to hide under the lie that you cannot understand Arabic perfectly. Why should God choose a language not perfectly understandable by people to worship Him? To create confusion?

I learnt the leader of ISIL has a PhD in islamic studies and yet leading a terrorist group. He must have researched and discovered the in-and-out of islam. Doesn't he understand Arabic as well?

Keenysbojan:


God bless you bro

AlMuflihah:

Thank God that at least you attempted to learn a foreign language. If you are sincere with yourself and not as much of a liar as G.J.O Moshay you will understand how difficult and easily misinterpreted some words get and how many parables loss meanings when translated to another language. And besides ask any linguist he will tell u how deficient the English language is in interpreting Arabic, just like trying to use English to interprete Hausa, I bet you will most likely lose all the beauty of the Language. And note eastern languages are different from western languages in quality and sweetness, I say this because I learnt both. So before you start quoting verses distorted to English by someone who is looking for misguidance or someone still learning Arabic, go first and learn the language then you can talk about the verse. Before then just keep mute because those English translations just make you guys look like ignorant rain-drenched he-goats.

And please help me translate this yoruba proverb to English without distorting the original meaning and words...
'omo osan lon ko ponpo ba iya e'...

Go back and learn Arabic and feel the beauty of eloquence not found in any other language...

aboto49:
Jazakumullahu Khairan sister. May Allah reward you abundantly.

analice107:

Ah, but the terrorists are reading it in Arabic language nah. It's not in English. They read what Muhammed wrote and did. And they are doing too. What are you talking about?
These muslims sef. The Koran is hardly understand, so it gets misinterpreted, but the terrorist quoted from it to bomb the World Trade Center, and the Muslim all over the world celebrated and that day has become a day of celebration in the Islamic world.
What do you people even think? That everyone is as foolish as you guys? If this Koran is being misinterpreted, then why are you guys celebrating terrorist acts? Why only muslims all over the world are killing people using quotes from the same Koran which is so glorious. Plsss man, shift.

analice107:

How many glasses of the Camel piss do you take in a day to cure you from this your mouth Cow disease that makes you lie without your consent?

Keenysbojan:
You know what I don't care about what you say and besides I am not here to argue with you but rather I am here to tell the truth

facheux:
I hope moshay burn forever in hell fire.

AlMuflihah:


Of course I have, perhaps it's responsible for my intellectual prowess. I really recommend it for too you, perhaps your case will only need brain transplant and not CNS transplant or you might even be completely cured if Allah wills. And please rather than join the bandwagon of dullards please I recommend you put whatever you have of intellect to use and make research before you start vomiting dust bin around.

mauriceju2:
Christians or MUMUSLEMS who don't have time to use intellects?. Just tell me how much or what you can say to make a Christian to tie bomb and blow himself up in the name of Jesus to kill an infidel? Muslims are the highest MUMU in the solar system

facheux:
I hope moshay burn forever in hell fire.

AlMuflihah:

Finally someone with brain. Thank you for the interpretation of the yoruba proverb, now be sincere with yourself did your English translation convey the same in depth meaning as the real proverb in yoruba and the same wordings. And besides I never said somebody cannot understand Arabic perfectly, I only asserted that before you rely 100% on some other person's interpretation of Arabic texts, you must first research into the verses in its original Arabic, because the person who translated it might have committed a blunder in his interpretation( a case study is the different contradictory versions of the English translation of the bible that exists) hence before you could feel capable of even saying anything on the Qur'an and hadith, you MUST learn the language and be open minded for you might be mistaken of choices of words sometimes. For instance imagine your Moshay quoting verse 168 in a chapter with 71 verses imagine display of immense ignorance.
Finally on Al-Baghdadiy of ISIL, I will only touch on him a little as his delusions are not what this thread is about, you could open a thread on him and you would see what Muslim Scholars say on him. But as a point of benefit, he understands the sacred texts but chose to follow his desires on their meanings just like the Ignorant Moshay lied about knowing what he never researched.

truthmans2012:


When you read a language other than your native one, you must understand the interpretation perfectly otherwise it will make no meaning to you. Since you said you were not saying that Arabic language cannot be perfectly understood, then what is the basis for the argument?


[Quran 11:1 Yusufali] A. L. R. (This is) a Book, with verses basic or fundamental (OF ESTABLISHED MEANING), further EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ,- from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things):

If the words in capital are true, it gives the impression that the quran should be simple to understand. I wonder why muslims still claim Arabic has a special way of knowing the true meaning.

Keenysbojan:

Hehehehehe MOSHAY is better than your prophet nau, your prophet is in hell fire too as he portrayed in Quran

There is none of you that shall not go there (hell) this is the judgment your lord has purposed. Then we shall save those who fear Allah, and we shall leave the evil doers in the fire on their knees (Surah 19:71-72)

Is this verse not in your Quran? Even your lie prophet Muhammad is still in hell fire waiting for his Allah to come and rescue him someday... Quran full of lies

truthmans2012:


When you read a language other than your native one, you must understand the interpretation perfectly otherwise it will make no meaning to you. Since you said you were not saying that Arabic language cannot be perfectly understood, then what is the basis for the argument?


[Quran 11:1 Yusufali] A. L. R. (This is) a Book, with verses basic or fundamental (OF ESTABLISHED MEANING), further EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ,- from One Who is Wise and Well-acquainted (with all things):

If the words in capital are true, it gives the impression that the quran should be simple to understand. I wonder why muslims still claim Arabic has a special way of knowing the true meaning.

aboto49:
Jazakumullahu Khairan sister. May Allah reward you abundantly.

facheux:
I hope moshay burn forever in hell fire.

AlMuflihah:
you see why I keep telling you not to rely on Moshay's intentional twisting of Qur'anic verses, and why I keep telling you you need to learn Arabic.
First this is an intentional misinterpretation that has been refuted many times, but you just won't learn, I wonder if you even went to a school at all.
To make it simple on you, the Arabic word moshay interpreted as 'go there' is in Arabic 'waariduha' and for anybody with any Arabic in his head will know that 'go there' in Arabic is 'dhahaba ilaiha' and not 'wariduha'. Now what is 'waariduha' it's simple it means 'pass over' like going over a bridge. Abi if I go over a bridge with water underneath I don enter the water? That's why we say stop propagating lies it's not good for your IQ.

So please just shun a religion that allows you to propagate lies about people and join the ranks of the believers who stand firmly on truth without letting hatred sway them from it.

cckris:

All Moslems MUST get into hell, according to your own Koran. It's too late to amend the foundation of Islam.