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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 2:14pm On Mar 07, 2016
Most atheist don't bother going deep into the core and how religion was formed,which is ok. I just choose to dive deep and see the depth at which religion was formed. I found out the christian god is an alien and jesus and his disciples were fictional characters attached to astrology.

After reading some books by Da vinci and studying the picture below,i noticed that was the sign of zodiac in human form. Take a good look at the picture From Aries(showing his head) Taurus(his neck) Gemini(his two hands) all through to Virgo(the lady before jesus) Jesus(the Sun) Libra(right beside jesus showing his two hand,scale of justice, etc. What a clue!

The betrayer was Judas who was personified by Scorpio (the Scorpion). When the sun (Jesus) was in the house of Scorpio (Judas), the scorpion betrayed Jesus (the sun) with a kiss (a sting). The sun (Jesus) died an agonizing death, was stabbed by the Sagittarius spear on the cross, was placed into a cave tomb, and was raised from the dead 3 day’s later. The last supper was the astronomical allegory foretelling astronomical events.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 2:15pm On Mar 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


The Church did not claim anything . Jesus has been , is , will always be the light of the world . Even before the earth was conceived , he was already its light .

You are still a dilettante in these areas .

lol
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 2:20pm On Mar 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


The Church did not claim anything . Jesus has been , is , will always be the light of the world . Even before the earth was conceived , he was already its light .

You are still a dilettante in these areas .

The last supper story in the Bible is derived from an ancient Pagan ritual celebrating the harvest, played out in an astrological allegory. Christianity is based on the sun worshiping cult of the Hebrews and the Bible stories are simply a collection of Astrological allegory.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 2:53pm On Mar 07, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
Am not an atheist. I just don't believe in religion. So am sure the God that created me is not manmade like Yahweh, Allah, Zeus or Buddha.
You do not know what you dont know.
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 3:01pm On Mar 07, 2016
Judas2013:



I am against anyone who ask me to worship a god.
You do worship a god. It might be women, money, alcohol, yourself or any other thing.
You do not need to asked to worship anything, you were born a worshipper. You need to really think deep and see the world for what it is.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by Judas2013: 3:06pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
You do worship a god. It might be women, money, alcohol, yourself or any other thing.
You do not need to asked to worship anything, you were born a worshipper. You need to really think deep and see the world for what it is.

Religious mind lipsrsealed

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by Oluwaseytiano(m): 3:58pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
You do not know what you dont know.
Pls enlighten your humble student, O Master.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by Judas2013: 4:40pm On Mar 07, 2016
The last supper being an allegory for something is much less believable than it being a historical account of someone who didn't exist have a meal before their death and resurrection? Really? I would go with allegory 100% of the time. Ifenes,I wont go with jesus story,I prefer the the 12 labors of Hercules
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 4:51pm On Mar 07, 2016
Judas2013:
The last supper being an allegory for something is much less believable than it being a historical account of someone who didn't exist have a meal before their death and resurrection? Really? I would go with allegory 100% of the time. Ifenes,I wont go with jesus story,I prefer the the 12 labors of Hercules

Astrological allegory's were common practice 100's even 1,000's of years ago. Some were written stories, some were carved in stone, others were artwork on vases and mosaics. The ancient breathe Astrology and everyone tried to out do each other. Sometimes after invasion,the conqure imposes their version on the defeated. Same happened with Christianity.

Below is a German allegory on four season. The way the ancient preserved astrology was to put them in stories.

One good question is why the Catholic church has lots of images of Astrological signs in it?

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 5:06pm On Mar 07, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
Pls enlighten your humble student, O Master.
I wont. You should allow nature to.
You do not know how you were created yet you demonstrate so much knowledge on what you dont know.

This quote defines you:
"To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

Once again, be a man and admit it. You do not know what you dont know.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 5:09pm On Mar 07, 2016
Judas2013:


Religious mind lipsrsealed
Does it matter if i reply, you have closed your mind. I just hope you dont run around screaming rationality and logic next time.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by Oluwaseytiano(m): 5:11pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
I wont. You should allow nature to.
You do not know how you were created yet you demonstrate so much knowledge on what you dont know.

This quote defines you:
"To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

Once again, be a man and admit it. You do not know what you dont know.
lol, you suck bro. I believe that there is a God, I just don't believe He is the God of the Bible

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by emorse(m): 6:32pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
Yeah i assumed, like i would assume that you probably haven't eaten if you told me you were hungry. And you wouldnt blame me, nowadays, once some people believe they were not created by a Creator, they start to scream "rational thinking".
What do you mean by " a very big man of God"? I know of the Son of God, the sons of God and children of God. Now we know people that were really indoctrinated simply because they suck up to "big men of God".

"Allow your religion to defend itself", what is this? Well, When you read the first paragraph of the article, you will know what this thread is all about. No one is defending religion, its just a simple reminder. You dont make erroneous comments and then scream defence when it is broken down. Its needless to go through your profile, cos its not a measure of your intelligence or open-mindedness. And its only normal for you to have little history in this section unlike some people who crave attention so badly that they keep late nights to proclaim and defend their supposedly "irreligious" worldview on a religion section.


I do not "side" with science, science is what i do. Its why i dont scream science at every little argument. And if i was trying to remain relevant, i would be on an opposing section.
Ive made up my mind, and its why im on a religious section. You should take to your advice of making up your mind. You seem to be agitated cos your past have been reffered to.
Once again, Why not sit back, relax and free yourself from the shackles of close-mindedness.

You have your views and they do not ruffle the feathers of the newly hatched chick in my poultry house but you should understand that others have theirs too. Yeah I can tell all these things mean a lot to you. The reason you're getting all emotional. However, emotions never solved any problem for humanity.

@the bolded makes you appear really desperate. Speaking from both sides of your mouth. Work on your argument skills man, and then find your match. And please don't quote me anymore cos I won't honour you with a response.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by frank317: 6:40pm On Mar 07, 2016
emorse:


You have your views and they do not ruffle the feathers of the newly hatched chick in my poultry house but you should understand that others have theirs too. Yeah I can tell all these things mean a lot to you. The reason you're getting all emotional. However, emotions never solved any problem for humanity.

@the bolded makes you appear really desperate. Speaking from both sides of your mouth. Work on your argument skills man, and then find your match. And please don't quote me anymore cos I won't honour you with a response.

He doesn't know he sound like a kid when he keeps on repeating that gibberish. The presence of atheists on this forum must be giving him sleepless nights. I wonder why he feels threatened for Jesus.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by emorse(m): 6:57pm On Mar 07, 2016
frank317:


He doesn't know he sound like a kid when he keeps on repeating that gibberish. The presence of atheists on this forum must be giving him sleepless nights. I wonder why he feels threatened for Jesus.

Not just him. They all feel threatened. And like you, I really wonder why.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 8:27pm On Mar 07, 2016
emorse:

You have your views and they do not ruffle the feathers of the newly hatched chick in my poultry house but you should understand that others have theirs too. Yeah I can tell all these things mean a lot to you. The reason you're getting all emotional. However, emotions never solved any problem for humanity.
I shared my views, it disturbed you and you couldnt but react. I rubbish your reactions and now you cry foul. its understandable.

emorse:

@the bolded makes you appear really desperate. Speaking from both sides of your mouth. Work on your argument skills man, and then find your match. And please don't quote me anymore cos I won't honour you with a response.
You'd wish i was desperate. You should take to your own advices kid. You should never have reacted to this in the first place, go find a place you fit in. Your opinions will be forgotten.
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by frank317: 8:43pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
I shared my views, it disturbed you and you couldnt but react. I rubbish your reactions and now you cry foul. its understandable.

Lol... U must be feeling tough. If crying means countering a view then I wonder which school u went to. "Ahhh uhhhh buuu gaaa yeee...atheist don't want we Christians to rest, they are here day and night disturbing our peace aghhh my Jesus u must be restless, this people are disturbing u and baba God's peace... Uhhhhh, buuuhhh ahhh," keep on crying.


You'd wish i was desperate. You should take to your own advices kid. You should never have reacted to this in the first place, go find a place you fit in. Your opinions will be forgotten.

If u don't want people to react to ur views keep them to urself. You can cry a river, atheists are here to stay.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 8:43pm On Mar 07, 2016
frank317:

He doesn't know he sound like a kid when he keeps on repeating that gibberish.
Stale!!!.
You dont do religion, this is a religion section, what are you doing here?.

Well, I wouldnt have an answer to that either if i was confronted by a muslim for spending so much time on islams section without believing in islam.

frank317:

The presence of atheists on this forum must be giving him sleepless nights. I wonder why he feels threatened for Jesus.
This is a large forum. Of about 40 sections, you choose to dwell in the religion section. C'mon man, We both know who is having sleepless nights. we both know who is dedicated to attacking religious worldviews on a religion section.

frank317:

I wonder why he feels threatened for Jesus.
Talk is cheap dude. This thread is simply to debunk the absurd contemporary notion that a christian cant be a "real" scientist. Nothing more, nothing less.

So you can wish i was "threatened for Jesus" all you want - lol - whatever that means. If it make ls you feel better wink.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by frank317: 8:51pm On Mar 07, 2016
winner01:
Stale!!!.
You dont do religion, this is a religion section, what are you doing here?.

Well, I wouldnt have an answer to that either if i was confronted by a muslim for spending so much time on islams section without believing in islam.
tongue u never start. Na blood remain to cry out.


This is a large forum. Of about 40 sections, you choose to dwell in the religion section. C'mon man, We both know who is having sleepless nights. we both know who is dedicated to attacking religious worldviews on a religion section.

tongue e pain u?


Talk is cheap dude. This thread is simply to debunk the absurd contemporary notion that a christian cant be a "real" scientist. Nothing more, nothing less.

So you can wish i was "threatened for Jesus" all you want - lol - whatever that means. If it make ls you feel better wink.

Any scientist that believes in a magical sky daddy is either deceiving u or himself. Or can u scientifically explain how snake talked eve into eating a fruit that is capable of making a naked woman discover she is naked.
U too cry... I wonder how u behaved as a baby.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 8:57pm On Mar 07, 2016
frank317:


Lol... U must be feeling tough. If crying means countering a view then I wonder which school u went to. "Ahhh uhhhh buuu gaaa yeee...atheist don't want we Christians to rest, they are here day and night disturbing our peace aghhh my Jesus u must be restless, this people are disturbing u and baba God's peace... Uhhhhh, buuuhhh ahhh," keep on crying.
Wail on dude!!, Wail on !!

frank317:

If u don't want people to react to ur views keep them to urself. You can cry a river, atheists are here to stay.
Seriously i would love to keep 'em to myself, but then i saw a religion section and decided to share my views with religious peeps. Then frankenstein and his likes start to masturbate all over the place.

Emorse has a good advice for you.
emorse:

You can go through my profile. I have little history in this section cos I know how parochial guys in here can be.
Be like emorse, he doesn't do religion, he doesn't spend his life and time on religion.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by Nobody: 9:02pm On Mar 07, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


The Church did not claim anything . Jesus has been , is , will always be the light of the world . Even before the earth was conceived , he was already its light .

You are still a dilettante in these areas .
I dont know if any of these scientists can remind me the fomula that was sustaining the TIMELESS SYSTEM (TIME WHEN THERE WAS NOT TIME)
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 9:06pm On Mar 07, 2016
frank317:

tongue u never start. Na blood remain to cry out.



tongue e pain u?
Logic bro, simple logic. Dont just shout it, do it. I dont do islam, i ain't in the section, i dont keep late nights in the section and then accuse a muslim of not sleeping.

Be the thinker you wish to be.

frank317:

Any scientist that believes in a magical sky daddy is either deceiving u or himself. Or can u scientifically explain how snake talked eve into eating a fruit that is capable of making a naked woman discover she is naked.
U too cry... I wonder how u behaved as a baby.
I really want to agree with you that those great scientists were deceiving themselves but then my intelligence wont just allow me. grin And i dont believe in a sky daddy or a cloudgoddess.

This may help you though: https://www.nairaland.com/2917639/much-better-explanation-evolution wink

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by cloudgoddess(f): 10:21pm On Mar 07, 2016
Why are you always calling my name in your threads I'm not interested in whatever pathetic pseudoscientific bs you're spreading these days. Quite frankly it's sad to watch, not even amusing anymore. The time you're spending posting this crap you could be ordering a biology textbook and studying. Use your time more wisely.

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 11:25pm On Mar 07, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Why are you always calling my name in your threads I'm not interested in whatever pathetic pseudoscientific bs you're spreading these days.
@ bolded, All these names simply cos of a perceived opposition to evolution? undecided. I understand.
Well, if these ones were pseudoscientists, i'd like to know who the 'real' scientists are. Since today's science is no longer based on
knowledge, discovery and truth but majority vote.

cloudgoddess:
The time you're spending posting this crap you could be ordering a biology textbook and studying. Use your time more wisely.
Oh!, Not your advice again!!. Last time you referred me to "science", you shot yourself badly in the leg. You copied links hastily without reading through to see if they totally supported your view or not. And wasted my time.
I think ill pass on this one, "scientist". wink

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:42pm On Mar 07, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Why are you always calling my name in your threads I'm not interested in whatever pathetic pseudoscientific bs you're spreading these days. Quite frankly it's sad to watch, not even amusing anymore. The time you're spending posting this crap you could be ordering a biology textbook and studying. Use your time more wisely.

Oh no ... did you just insult winner01 undecided ? The imaginary ancestors of those evolved animals must hear this angry angry


cheesy

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:45pm On Mar 07, 2016
ifenes:


The last supper story in the Bible is derived from an ancient Pagan ritual celebrating the harvest, played out in an astrological allegory. Christianity is based on the sun worshiping cult of the Hebrews and the Bible stories are simply a collection of Astrological allegory.

Are you serious ?

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 12:04am On Mar 08, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Are you serious ?

The stories in the bible never occurred. The Biblical characters represent astrological signs of the zodiac and the stories are allegories of the movements of the sun, the moon and the constellations.

These signs do not represent actual persons or even actual events, rather, these allegory's tell the stories of the movements of these constellations, the sun and the moon, therefore, the same astronomical signs can can represent different people and events.

The Sun goes to every house of the Zodiac and had effect on them.

Example when we get to Late October,we start getting winter in the time when the sun gets in contact with Scorpio. Sagittarius the archers kills the sun in November/December and 21th of December/January the son is dead in Capricorn(when we usually have heavy snow and winter) This moment the sun is hardly seen. Then it starts rising during Easter(April)Back to Aries. If you have been to Europe you will notice the sun is hottest in August(Leo) AKA the Lion of Judah.

Different allegories around the world. Even the book of the Mayans showed the end of the world in 2012,which was the end of one the age of Pisces.

Learn and get more knowledge. Don't remain ignorant.
Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by winner01(m): 12:06am On Mar 08, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Oh no ... did you just insult winner01 undecided ? The imaginary ancestors of those evolved animals must hear this angry angry


cheesy
I think one of them ape-ancestors have heard grin grin grin grin and is definately not happy with cloudgoddess grin grin

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 12:11am On Mar 08, 2016
winner01:
I think one of them ape-ancestors have heard grin grin grin grin and is definately not happy with cloudgoddess grin grin

How old are you?

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:14am On Mar 08, 2016
ifenes:


The stories in the bible never occurred. The Biblical characters represent astrological signs of the zodiac and the stories are allegories of the movements of the sun, the moon and the constellations.

These signs do not represent actual persons or even actual events, rather, these allegory's tell the stories of the movements of these constellations, the sun and the moon, therefore, the same astronomical signs can can represent different people and events.

The Sun goes to every house of the Zodiac and had effect on them.

Example when we get to Late October,we start getting winter in the time when the sun gets in contact with Scorpio. Sagittarius the archers kills the sun in November/December and 21th of December/January the son is dead in Capricorn(when we usually have heavy snow and winter) This moment the sun is hardly seen. The it starts rising during Easter(April)Back to Aries. If you have been to Europe you will notice the sun is the hottest in August(Leo) AKA the Lion of Judah.

Different allegories around the world. Even the book of the Mayans showed the end of the world in 2012,which was the end of one the age of Pisces.

Learn and get more knowledge. Don't remain ignorant.

John 11:35

Jesus wept

Wasn't that describing rainfall in Mars ?

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:18am On Mar 08, 2016
winner01:
I think one of them ape-ancestors have heard grin grin grin grin and is definately not happy with cloudgoddess grin grin

Roftl grin grin grin .. bro this ape tweeted "lmao " - He couldn't even wait to magically transform into a human first .

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Re: Christianity; The Reason For Science by ifenes(m): 12:21am On Mar 08, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


John 11:35



Wasn't that describing rainfall in Mars ?


Which makes it another allegory you wished to create. Does it make it true?

Europeans created Christianity based on their image and environment.

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