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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by landinfo: 1:41pm On Mar 29, 2016
I just hope by June ending, there would be no xcuse of;


"Oh, they are a young team that is why they crashed out in tha 1st round"

"Oh, no Lampard, Gerard, Rooney, Cole, Terry, etc"

"Oh @least they tried, we didn't xpect them to do anything cos of in-xperience"

"Oh give them time (WC 2018) & see what they would do"

Xcuses upon xcuses is what has made Nigeria to go down the hole.....

N.B. By the way, 'm a UTD fan & I don't support just for support sake when there are facts, history, etc to back up my opinion/points
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:43pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

And you think they wouldn't have preferred to win? Especially knowing that staying second will pit them against Brazil who topped their group. Look for another excuse abeg.
Just saying that some managers prefer their players to play 'conservatively' in last group games if their teams would only need a draw. They'd rather prefer their key players to not sustain needless injuries in the name of seeking a win. And that England team already had a half-fit Beckham who was their main talisman.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 2:47pm On Mar 29, 2016
CFCman:

Just saying that some managers prefer their players to play 'conservatively' in last group games if their teams would only need a draw. They'd rather prefer their key players to not sustain needless injuries in the name of seeking a win. And that England team already had a half-fit Beckham who was their main talisman.
Well, until they win a trophy at least, then they are shiit. Come on!

No more excuses for these overhyped niggas. They are no better than a Glo Premier league side.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 2:50pm On Mar 29, 2016
landinfo:
I just hope by June ending, there would be no xcuse of;


"Oh, they are a young team that is why they crashed out in tha 1st round"

"Oh, no Lampard, Gerard, Rooney, Cole, Terry, etc"

"Oh @least they tried, we didn't xpect them to do anything cos of in-xperience"

"Oh give them time (WC 2018) & see what they would do"

Xcuses upon xcuses is what has made Nigeria to go down the hole.....

N.B. By the way, 'm a UTD fan & I don't support just for support sake when there are facts, history, etc to back up my opinion/points
Thank you jare. People keep spurning excuses to cover up England's woeful performances in tournaments. Imagine the last time they won a trophy! shocked It's pathetic!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 2:52pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

Thank you jare. People keep spurning excuses to cover up. England's woeful performances in tournaments. Imagine the last time they won a trophy! shocked It's pathetic!
Before the emergence of Xavier and iniesta how many trophies Spanish team won? How many years did it take Spain to win their first World Cup?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2016
hensben:
Before the emergence of Xavier and iniesta how many trophies Spanish team won? How many years did it take Spain to win their first World Cup?
If you never quote me you no go rest.

For the records, I don't do Spain when it comes to international footie. I'm a full-time Brazilian fan for life! I was, I am and I will always be a fan of the Brazil NT.

But to answer your question; it doesn't matter. At least in your lifetime they have won something. What has England won in your lifetime?

When was the last time they won the World Cup? Decades ago.

When was the last time they won the Olympic Gold Medal for Men's football? Almost a hundred years ago.

When was the last time they won the Euros? Never! cheesy

Bruv, they have nothing to write home about.tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:15pm On Mar 29, 2016
Emaprince:
make una no let hatred for England cloud una judgement.

England of that tourney were decent enough to win it. The same brazil that knocked them out went all the way to defeat every other teams that crossed their path. That's to tell you even germany weren't better. If Germany met brazil in the quarters, they woulda been knocked out too and England might have reached the final. That same team that trashed Germany 5-1 woulda done it again if the met in that tourney.

The problem was in the match Brazil played with 10 men after Ronaldinho got a red card around the 60th minute and England played vs 10 men for 30 mins and could only get one shot on target from Danny Mills

While Germany played Brazil without their best player Michael Ballack and lost to Brazil

Germany is not England mate in anything called football

Since England last won 50yrs ago, Germany has won 3 world cups England 0 world cup, Germany 3 Euro cups England 0 Euro cup

Germany has played 6 world cup finals England 0 world cup finals, Germany has played 5 Euro cup finals England 0

Let me break it down further in all compaetitions since 1966 Germany has moved further than England in all except 1. i.e Euro 2004.

The difference between Germany and England in football is like the difference between brazil and nigeria

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 3:26pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

If you never quote me you no go rest.

For the records, I don't do Spain when it comes to international footie. I'm a full-time Brazilian fan for life! I was, I am and I will always be a fan of the Brazil NT.

But to answer your question; it doesn't matter. At least in your lifetime they have won something. What has England won in your lifetime?

When was the last time they won the World Cup? Decades ago.

When was the last time they won the Olympic Gold Medal for Men's football? Almost a hundred years ago.

When was the last time they won the Euros? Never! cheesy

Bruv, they have nothing to write home about.tongue
At least Spain benefited from the brilliance of Xavi and Iniesta when they emerged. You should have asked him why England failed to benefit from the brilliance of Lampard, Gerard, Beckam, Rooney and co in their lifetime.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:31pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

But why una sef dey carry England matter for head like gélé?
Same qweshun can be asked of u...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 3:34pm On Mar 29, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Same qweshun can be asked of u...
Nah you guys should answer first. You won a friendly and we no go come hear word again.

Don't think I am a supporter of the German side. I no be Die Mannschaft fan oooooo. Me na full time Samba fan.

I no just like una noise with winning a friendly. Haba.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 3:36pm On Mar 29, 2016
sebod:

At least Spain benefited from the brilliance of Xavi and Iniesta when they emerged. You should have asked him why England failed to benefit from the brilliance of Lampard, Gerard, Beckam, Rooney and co in their lifetime.
I no wan bother jare because him no go waste time to tag all of them average just to escape the argument.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:45pm On Mar 29, 2016
sebod:

At least Spain benefited from the brilliance of Xavi and Iniesta when they emerged. You should have asked him why England failed to benefit from the brilliance of Lampard, Gerard, Beckam, Rooney and co in their lifetime.

You mean Spain benefitted from the unproductive Iniesta
but England couldnt benefit from
The most productive "Not Iniesta mate" Lampard,
the FIFpro defender of the Universe "better than Boateng" Terry,
The best Free kick taker in Roman empire Beckham,
The Captain Fantastic Gerrard,
White Pele "better than Muller" Rooney,
Rio Baresi "Amugbo weedsmoker" Ferdinand,
Ashley Best left back in ancient and modern world Cole
Joe "better than Schweinsteiger" Cole

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:49pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

Nah you guys should answer first. You won a friendly and we no go come hear word again.

Don't think I am a supporter of the German side. I no be Die Mannschaft fan oooooo. Me na full time Samba fan.

I no just like una noise with winning a friendly. Haba.
Friendly or not, we both know how una for don carry the matter for head if England had lost. But they won and now, its just a friendly match....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 4:03pm On Mar 29, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Friendly or not, we both know how una for don carry the matter for head if England had lost. But they won and now, its just a friendly match....
So friendly is now the benchmark? Wow!

You won against Barça in the preseason, does that mean you won't be totally annihilated if we cross path now?

Bro you should know better than this. A friendly is what it is and nothing more. Make tournament start, na that time we go know who be who.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

So friendly is now the benchmark? Wow!

You won against Barça in the preseason, does that mean you won't be totally annihilated if we cross path now?

Bro you should know better than this. A friendly is what it is and nothing more. Make tournament start, na that time we go know who be who.

I remember when was it last season Man utd was winning all their friendly games. Maybe dem for don give them CL trophy because of those friendly wins
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 4:16pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:


I remember when was it last season Man utd was winning all their friendly games. Maybe dem for don give them CL trophy because of those friendly wins
True. They literally won all their preseason games at the start of last season. And we all know how the season ended for them.

No be by preseason. Abi Chelsea no win PSG in preseason on penalties after both played draw? But we all know wetin happen when it mattered most.

All these EPL guys sef.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:17pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:


You mean Spain benefitted from the unproductive Iniesta
but England couldnt benefit from
The most productive "Not Iniesta mate" Lampard,
the FIFpro defender of the Universe "better than Boateng" Terry,
The best Free kick taker in Roman empire Beckham,
The Captain Fantastic Gerrard,
White Pele "better than Muller" Rooney,
Rio Baresi "Amugbo weedsmoker" Ferdinand,
Ashley Best left back in ancient and modern world Cole
Joe "better than Schweinsteiger" Cole
LMFAO cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sebod(m): 4:27pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:


You mean Spain benefitted from the unproductive Iniesta
but England couldnt benefit from
The most productive "Not Iniesta mate" Lampard,

the FIFpro defender of the Universe "better than Boateng" Terry,
The best Free kick taker in Roman empire Beckham,
The Captain Fantastic Gerrard,
White Pele "better than Muller" Rooney,
Rio Baresi "Amugbo weedsmoker" Ferdinand,
Ashley Best left back in ancient and modern world Cole
Joe "better than Schweinsteiger" Cole

Wicked! cheesy grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:44pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

So friendly is now the benchmark? Wow!

You won against Barça in the preseason, does that mean you won't be totally annihilated if we cross path now?

Bro you should know better than this. A friendly is what it is and nothing more. Make tournament start, na that time we go know who be who.
And i no dey with the people wey dey shout say England win. I no even watch the match and i really didn't care much about it. Regardless friendly or not, its still a football match. And if England had lost, u people would ve flooded this place of how useless England was. U know it. And i know it.

And if friendly matches were so useless and overrated and negligible, why is it part of the criteria Fifa uses to rank teams??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 5:43pm On Mar 29, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
And i no dey with the people wey dey shout say England win. I no even watch the match and i really didn't care much about it. Regardless friendly or not, its still a football match. And if England had lost, u people would ve flooded this place of how useless England was. U know it. And i know it.

And if friendly matches were so useless and overrated and negligible, why is it part of the criteria Fifa uses to rank teams??
Well, if FIFA ranking is all England can hope for, I think it's good for them. But they will always be below Die Mannschaft in whatever ranking out there not to mention my team.cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

Well, if FIFA ranking is all England can hope for, I think it's good for them. But they will always be below Die Mannschaft in whatever ranking out there not to mention my team.cheesy

Belgium tops FIFA ranking currently

SO if anyone ask you the best footballing Nation dem go say na Belgium.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 5:59pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:


Belgium tops FIFA ranking currently

SO if anyone ask you the best footballing Nation dem go say na Belgium.
Na so na.cheesy Most EPL fans logic sef...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 6:39pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:


You mean Spain benefitted from the unproductive Iniesta
but England couldnt benefit from
The most productive "Not Iniesta mate" Lampard,
the FIFpro defender of the Universe "better than Boateng" Terry,
The best Free kick taker in Roman empire Beckham,
The Captain Fantastic Gerrard,
White Pele "better than Muller" Rooney,
Rio Baresi "Amugbo weedsmoker" Ferdinand,
Ashley Best left back in ancient and modern world Cole
Joe "better than Schweinsteiger" Cole

QUOTE OF THE DAY. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 7:42pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

But why una sef dey carry England matter for head like gélé?
lol.. My first and would have been my last post on the England issue if you had not quoted me while you, Ramuzaki and others have been on it for over a day and I'm the one carrying it on my head like gélé.. Again lol.

That aside
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how winning a friendly became a bad thing. Should they have lost?
How does someone get stick for winning?

Because a totally different English team did a similar thing 14 years ago and lost to eventual winners in the quarter final, while failing to beat Nigeria in the group stages.

That right there is the problem I have with you and your likes.


They deserve stick for being underwhelming in recent tournaments and those responsible deserve stick for that


Just stop the unnecessary criticism.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 7:51pm On Mar 29, 2016
PietroRico:
lol.. My first and would have been my last post on the England issue is you had not quoted me while you, Ramuzaki and others have been on it for over a day and I'm the one carrying it on my head like gélé.. Again lol.

That aside
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how winning a friendly became a bad thing. Should they have lost?
How does someone get stick for winning?

Because a totally different English team did a similar thing 14 years ago and lost to eventual winners in the quarter final, while failing to beat Nigeria in the group stages.

That right there is the problem I have with you and your likes.


They deserve stick for being underwhelming in recent tournaments and those responsible deserve stick for that


Just stop the unnecessary criticism.
Bruv, if you had followed this from the get go you would know that your fellow EPL fans blew the win outta proportion. Of course winning is winning like you rightly pointed out, but not to forget also that the tournament in which you win still matters a great deal. So, you and your fellows should take cognizance of that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:09pm On Mar 29, 2016
raumdeuter:

You mean Spain benefitted from the unproductive Iniesta but England couldnt benefit from The most productive "Not Iniesta mate" Lampard, the FIFpro defender of the Universe "better than Boateng" Terry, The best Free kick taker in Roman empire Beckham, The Captain Fantastic Gerrard, White Pele "better than Muller" Rooney, Rio Baresi "Amugbo weedsmoker" Ferdinand, Ashley Best left back in ancient and modern world Cole Joe "better than Schweinsteiger" Cole
am sorry i can only offer one like for this hilarious post haha cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PietroRico(m): 8:14pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

Bruv, if you had followed this from the get go you would know that your fellow EPL fans blew the win outta proportion. Of course winning is winning like you rightly pointed out, but not to forget also that the tournament in which you win still matters a great deal. So, you and your fellows should take cognizance of that.
Okay then
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 8:19pm On Mar 29, 2016
UP NIGERIA!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:27pm On Mar 29, 2016
dmcdad:

Na so na.cheesy Most EPL fans logic sef...
So ranking is now a bad thing?? Coming from the guys who have been screaming Uefa coefficients since kingdom come, we shouldn't believe in Fifa rankings but we can believe in Uefa rankings?? This is my problem with u anti-English football fans. Y'all always looking to bend the rules and twist the arguments every damn time so u can always come out on top. Hypocritical bunch!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dmcdad: 8:51pm On Mar 29, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
So ranking is now a bad thing?? Coming from the guys who have been screaming Uefa coefficients since kingdom come, we shouldn't believe in Fifa rankings but we can believe in Uefa rankings?? This is my problem with u anti-English football fans. Y'all always looking to bend the rules and twist the arguments every damn time so u can always come out on top. Hypocritical bunch!!
Ranking or no ranking, how does it affect the fact that England is shiit. Even in the very rankings you are talking about, Germany is always ahead of England. So? Wetin be your point?

The below image for your kind perusal. As at 3rd of March.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 8:57pm On Mar 29, 2016
Raumdeuter your thoughts on Sebastian Rudy.

I think he's slightly better than Emre Can at that RB position.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:12pm On Mar 29, 2016
Emre Can was a disaster on the right and I dont think he should ever play there again. So he is a poor comparison

I think Mustafi, Ginter and Durm sef can be better options on the right or try Kimmich there

Today Germany played a different tactic

3 central Rudiger-Hummels Mustafi

Rudy and hector acting as wing backs

A fluid midfield/attack of Ozil, Kroos Draxler Gotze Muller where everyone interchange but Gotze as the false 9

The position Rudy is playing today is as a wing back and might not be enough to assess his defensive ability when taking on a solid winger like Ronaldo, Griezman. And I doubt Germany would play such formation in the Euro with Boateng, Gundogan, Khedira back

That said Rudy and Hector impressed going forward

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