chkil:


with all respect to Rooivalk weach is a good helicopter but we can't compare with russian industry and experience, its nice that UN use some rooivalk in RDC (40 hours per month) ! but rooivalk just start when russian society design helicopter and aircraft from the beginning of aernotic and invented most concepts used now and operate all aroud the world and many wars and conflict , still a long road for south africa to catch geants like russia and usa .

The thing is that the Mi28 offers no significant and noticeable advantage over the Rooivalk.

Both have their pro's and con's but they are directly comparable.

Patchesagain:


The thing is that the Mi28 offers no significant and noticeable advantage over the Rooivalk.

Both have their pro's and con's but they are directly comparable.

Just like comparing Alpha Jet to SU-24 because they are both in the category of "Bomber" right??
"Beauty" and "Brain" are entirely two different things though they both starts with the letter "B"-- you can't compare them.

Patchesagain:


Lol, if you are losing an argument, dont forget to shout "all your evidence is propaganda!"

Also, no, we are not talking about other helicopters in the region.

You said:

A. Rooivalks hardly fly
B. They have not seen combat

I have proven both to be false.

Meanwhile, the Mi28 crashed and killed its crew only days after its first combat mission.


This discussion is over.

You have proved nothing.

Their are only 11 Rooivalk helicopters in the entire world and you have only 3 in Congo that hardly fly. When they fly they are used against rebels that are looking for UN food.

Rebel groups stealing UN food are in no way different from thieves. Pure waste of resources. SADF using hammer to kill ants.

Vikkie14:
Just like comparing Alpha Jet to SU-24 because they are both in the category of "Bomber" right??
"Beauty" and "Brain" are entirely two different things though they both starts with the letter "B"-- you can't compare them.

Your right you can't compare them....the Rooivalk has a higher Service ceiling, higher hover ceiling, higher cruise speed , longer combat range, longer ferry range ect ect ect.

Henry240:


The same Helicopters your airr force can't even Afford. Cool story bro!!

Denel IS the airforce IS the military IS the governments. Please make sense.

You guys are paupers. Your generals like the Rooivalk as per their confirmation, but it's like caviar to you guys.

Vikkie14:
Just like comparing Alpha Jet to SU-24 because they are both in the category of "Bomber" right??
"Beauty" and "Brain" are entirely two different things though they both starts with the letter "B"-- you can't compare them.

The Alpha jet is not a bomber. Trainer and LIFT.


The SU-24 can in the with western fighters compared with the Tornado IDS.

iblawi:

You have proved nothing.

Their are only 11 Rooivalk helicopters in the entire world and you have only 3 in Congo that hardly fly. When they fly they are used against rebels that are looking for UN food.

Rebel groups stealing UN food are in no way different from thieves. Pure waste of resources. SADF using hammer to kill ants.

How many Spirit bombers are in service in the world?

Vikkie14:
Just like comparing Alpha Jet to SU-24 because they are both in the category of "Bomber" right??
"Beauty" and "Brain" are entirely two different things though they both starts with the letter "B"-- you can't compare them.

Both are dedicated attack helicopters

iblawi:

You have proved nothing.

Their are only 11 Rooivalk helicopters in the entire world and you have only 3 in Congo that hardly fly. When they fly they are used against rebels that are looking for UN food.

Rebel groups stealing UN food are in no way different from thieves. Pure waste of resources. SADF using hammer to kill ants.

So over 1000 hours flown (40 per month) counts as hardly flying?

M23 and ADL are no different from theives?

You are a fvcking idiot.

chkil:


with all respect to Rooivalk weach is a good helicopter but we can't compare with russian industry and experience, its nice that UN use some rooivalk in RDC (40 hours per month) ! but rooivalk just start when russian society design helicopter and aircraft from the beginning of aernotic and invented most concepts used now and operate all aroud the world and many wars and conflict , still a long road for south africa to catch geants like russia and usa .

Why do most nations whom buy Russian aircraft prefer intergrating western avionics?

Patchesagain:



So over 1000 hours flown (40 per month) counts as hardly flying?

M23 and ADL are no different from theives?

You are a fvcking idiot.

You are a stupid lair.

Idiot

2016 globalfire ranking South Africa now 5th in Africa Nigeria 4th.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

The mighty Rooivalk.

iblawi:
2016 globalfire ranking South Africa now 5th in Africa Nigeria 4th.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

The global firepower is now becoming drunk. The host of it said he was inundated with calls from anonymous people demanding that Nigeria be ranked above South Africa, but he said he personally disagrees.

Msauza:



The global firepower is now becoming drunk. The host of it said he was inundated with calls from anonymous people demanding that Nigeria be ranked above South Africa, but he said he personally disagrees.

Just as world bank received call to rank Nigerian economy above that of south Africa. I wonder who is truly drunk.

Soon Nigeria will replace south Africa in G20 and am wondering how many people will get drunk again.

iblawi:
2016 globalfire ranking South Africa now 5th in Africa Nigeria 4th.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-africa.asp

This argument is now settled!!


I know a "certain" people from a "certain" country who won't like this.


It is now obvious to all, not a whole lot can be achieved with 5 Gripen pilots.

Henry240:


This argument is now settled!!


I know a "certain" people from a "certain" country who won't like this.


It is now obvious to all, not a whole lot can be achieved with 5 Gripen pilots.

Lol - coming from the guy who said that the GF ranking was "irrelevant"

Anyway, 5 gripen is more uselfull than 7 operational platforms (total)

Patchesagain:


Lol - coming from the guy who said that the GF ranking was "irrelevant"

Anyway, 5 gripen is more uselfull than 7 operational platforms (total)

I never said that. GFP ranking is the most relevant ranking there is.



Apparently not useful enough to be ranked higher than Nigeria.

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Patchesagain:


Both are dedicated attack helicopters

Dis guy u no go kill me one day o. Alpha & frogfoot (su24) r helos to u SAs?
Abah i thot u shuld b more enlightened dan dis. If u had sed they r light attack jets i wuld hv reasoned wit u a bit. Bt dis, i drop my mic for u. Mehn u r so backward patches, so so backward!

Msauza:



The global firepower is now becoming drunk. The host of it said he was inundated with calls from anonymous people demanding that Nigeria be ranked above South Africa, but he said he personally disagrees.

*shivering with cold

By y u de lie lik dis, r u abdooLIE frm LIEberia.

Patchesagain:


So over 1000 hours flown (40 per month) counts as hardly flying?
M23 and ADL are no different from theives?
You are a fvcking idiot.

Yes, M23 and ADL are no different from thieves. This is a fact!

DonBobes:







Dis guy u no go kill me one day o. Alpha & frogfoot (su24) r helos to u SAs?
Abah i thot u shuld b more enlightened dan dis. If u had sed they r light attack jets i wuld hv reasoned wit u a bit. Bt dis, i drop my mic for u. Mehn u r so backward patches, so so backward!

1. Speak english, peasant

2. Follow the conversation. I am obviously not refering to the Alpha jet or Frogfoot.

Henry240:


Yes, M23 and ADL are no different from thieves. This is a fact!

Henry "because I say so" 120 strikes again

i do not understand why Ethiopia is always ranked above Nigeria and South Africa when it comes to military!

I have followed this thread consistently from page 0 and i have come to realize that other Africans on this thread have agreed that it is either Nigeria or south Africa that is the strongest military south of the sahara, hence they don't even want to put forward a case for their countries. The Kenyans and Namibians here have refused to argue their countries are the best.

craziebone:
I have followed this thread consistently from page 0 and i have come to realize that other Africans on this thread have agreed that it is either Nigeria or south Africa that is the strongest military south of the sahara, hence they don't even want to put forward a case for their countries. The Kenyans and Namibians here have refused to argue their countries are the best.

Thumbs up...

craziebone:
i do not understand why Ethiopia is always ranked above Nigeria and South Africa when it comes to military!

Can anyone explain why Ethiopia is always ranked ahead of SA and Nigeria when it comes to military ranking?

Ethiopian army is very strong but army alone is not enough to put them above Nigeria and south Africa. Don't forget that they were not penalised for not having a stand navy but they should have been penalised for having a very low budget and for not having the capability to carry out attack out of their territory.

Patchesagain:


Henry "because I say so" 120 strikes again

All your rantings haven't moved you from 5th place in Africa. Hopeless loser with 5 Gripen pilots.

bidexiii:


Can anyone explain why Ethiopia is always ranked ahead of SA and Nigeria when it comes to military ranking?

-Ethiopia has a very strong army in numbers and equipment they can deploy.


- They also have a strong local defence industry which supports their army.

- The fact they run a conscript army is also an advantage for them.

*They don't have a navy so resources are invested towards the Army and Air Force.

Henry240:


All your rantings haven't moved you from 5th place in Africa. Hopeless loser with 5 Gripen pilots.

lol - 6 months ago you claimed the rankings were "irrelevant" now you quote them? hahaha, desperate

Hopless loser with only 7 operational platforms in your airforce