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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by noblebaba: 10:31pm On Apr 23, 2016
Firstly Tinubu doesn't want any politician to be rated above him,secondly he was eyeing the number two position which saraki does not agree with which is muslim/muslim ticket if he had succeded to be number two apc would have lost because of religion,thirdly he has someone in mind to occupy where saraki is sitting presently whom he can easily control,Tinubu may not be in the present cabinet but u and I knew that he is the most powerful in Apc buhari is just learning politics and tinubu is an expert without living bourdilon he knew whom to give instructions to and if u don't coperate forget your sit.so we all knew that if tinubu want saraki to be discharge tomorow he can do it and since he has not say anything then silence means I'm behind it shikena

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by shiimah: 10:31pm On Apr 23, 2016
Omotaday:
Ok agreed, he lost the opportunity of becoming the vice president. Why then do people think he is not the one behind Saraki case? Does he have the power to control the Judiciary?
Cc; lalasticlala
Saraki betrayed his ambition and as a godfather in APC, he is trying to pay Saraki with his own coin.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by ezebunafo(m): 10:32pm On Apr 23, 2016
Respect baba,double twale,owo meji fun enikan,let them say.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Jobabori(m): 10:33pm On Apr 23, 2016
folks4luv:

Me I believe u, cause you just made common sense
He made no common sense. All the old politicians he mentioned are politically irrelevant now. They cannot convince Buhari. If Bukola is guilty let him face the consequence and if not he should be dicharge and acquited.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by NewNigeriaMind: 10:33pm On Apr 23, 2016
Tinubu is that yahoo boy with no laptop that keep cashing out that when all is said and done every yahoo boy want to be.

That's who tinubu is to Nigeria politicians.

#justlookon jagaban pose.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by timota(m): 10:33pm On Apr 23, 2016
The same Tinubu that they called learner,local champion. They even said that saraki has caged him. Now they are calling Tinubu game master

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by DIVINE78: 10:34pm On Apr 23, 2016
Gbawe:


Entirely correct. I actually feel embarrassed for those from the SE obsessed with Tinubu, constantly wishing him harm and are always keen to point the finger of blame at him. Asiwaju has no time for them and continues to do his thing while remaining a mentor to politicians who want to succeed in the very murky and mercilessly treacherous water of Nigerian politics. Is Saraki a saint? Even if Tinubu is behind the travails of Saraki, can some emotional folks tell us whether Saraki did wrong or not?

Throughout the world, because politics is an arena of gladiators, politicians plot to bring down their enemies daily. That is a political fact mature and pragmatic folks accept. If you give your political opponents that you treacherously backstabbed 'ammunition' then why scream if they use it to nail you after you stepped out of line and arrogantly trod on powerful toes as if you are invincible? When Saraki was busy conducting a treacherous and deceitful election, while embarrassing his Party before the world, did people expect the APC to accept such an embarrassment that would only set an international precedence confirming the ruling Party as weak and impotent? It seems some emotional folks don't understand how politics is played ruthlessly around the world, to include even in the finest and oldest democracies, before they come here boring about Tinubu this and Asiwaju that. As if we do not know that the constant mention of Tinubu is the painful wailing of those envious of the man's political brilliance and ability.
May God bless you.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by holyfather(m): 10:35pm On Apr 23, 2016
Alphaoscar:
I also find it difficult to understand why people always find it difficult to link Tinubu to every problems befalling his real or perceived political enemies.



Tinubu that we all know and judging from his antecedent is not someone that always fight his enemies to death and always mend fences with his opponents once the contest is over and forgives easily. e.g. Femi Pedro , Afikuyomi , Oyinlola, Obj , Atiku , Agbaje, Osoba and many numerous to mention.




Saraki is his personal enemy and he should learn to carry his cross without blaming others for his evil deeds.

Question : Why is everyone pointing accusing finger at him?
Answer : He is responsible.
All of these name calling and insults simply amount to outright derailment at best.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by 1miccza: 10:35pm On Apr 23, 2016
I said it here when Saraki was performing his political theatrics that brought him to power that the Tinubu that i know,who is now a Chieftain of the APC which is the ruling party.. With all the powers at his disposal including the presidential and federal might will not rest until Saraki is disgraced... That has been his style till date... Oppose me and die!!!! It started from Lagos and it is still manifesting..... Of course both the Saraki and Tinubu na thief na the one wey get power pass dey win so
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by charles316: 10:35pm On Apr 23, 2016
LadyExcellency:


Yes, his puppet is Vice President, Professor Osinbajo.

Actually, he is still the vice president but through proxy while Saraki is No. 3 citizen himself through politics of inclusion against the earlier plot where Tinubu will have serving proxies in V.President and Senate President to compensate for dropping his Vice-presidential ambition under pressure.

You are fvcking intelligent and sincere - a trait uncommon here. I'm sure these APC hoodrats won't like you very much



BTW,the op is asking a very dumb question. I'm sure she will open another thread to ask if the man who pulls the trigger is responsible for killing........

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by chidex101(m): 10:37pm On Apr 23, 2016
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by focus7: 10:37pm On Apr 23, 2016
AirFireEarthH20:
Tinubu is behind Saraki's travails 100%. Op, except you don't understand Nigeria's political dynamics before you feign ignorant of this fact.

I want looters jailed or if possible killed, but the way they are handling this Saraki's issue using the media by not allowing the tribunal do its job is very bad.

This was the man Tinubu, Akande and other APC leaders praised to high heavens, calling him progressive, a true son of the father, incorruptible when Saraki used the national assembly to fight President Jonathan and led five former PDP governors to form APC.

Let me tell u something, Bukola Saraki will NEVER go to jail. Quote me anywhere!!!! As far as Belgore, Ciroma, Sule, Gambari and other Baba Oloye's influential and powerful northern friends are still alive, he will never go to jail, not in this country.

If the heat is too much for him to bear, they'll secretly advise him to resign or go to bourdilion and make peace. But Bukola I know will never go beg anybody in bourdilion, he will stay on and fight. The media can make noise from now till forever, Bukola will not be deterred. He will only leave that post on his on accord or when these influential men secretly prevail on him to do so but I doubt if he will.

Take what I just wrote to the market, it's not compulsory to believe it
If Tinubu is indeed behind Saraki travail that he has so much control on the media, the judiciary, the CCT and the executive without having to raise voice in the public over this issue, then this Tinubu must be very powerful, I guess we must all agree that he controls the government without occupying any political office while Saraki is just occupying office yet with limited influence. Just to borrow you one common sense that is if common sense in anyway common. Do you think if Tinubu has so much control on the CCT the chairman would open declaration that he made error in Tinubu's case?

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Gbawe: 10:39pm On Apr 23, 2016
doja:
Man Gbawe is here. Your comments are golden and they remind me of the Nairaland of old.

I sincerely hope Nairaland gets back to the good old days of quality engagements and discuss.

Things have become so bad in here.

My main bro, sometimes one has no choice but to comment even despite how 'retarded' NL has become of late. Some people are so blinded by primordial hate they do not see what matters any more. Let us even indulge those who claim Tinubu is behind the travails of Saraki. Is Tinubu not one of the founding fathers of the APC who shed blood and money to make the Party the Nigerian ruling Party that has now taken over after a bloody fight with a failure of 16 years (the PDP) that virtually tried to bankrupt Nigeria to remain in power?

Disloyal PDP decampees like Saraki were tolerated because the brought something useful and because real politicians, the most successful kind like Tinubu, understand that politics is about permanent interest. If Saraki has now treacherously threatened the permanent interest others fought hard to gain then what are folks, especially those from the SE, crying for when his colleagues decide to deal with him? That is the norm worldwide and I wonder why some remain too emotional to see this. I can only assume they are too steeped in the primordial and tribalistic hatred of others to understand that Saraki cannot be allowed to get away with this. GEJ and OBJ tried to intimidate and bully Tinubu but the man stood his ground and prevailed. Saraki should do same if he can. Politics has never been a nice game. Especially not in Nigeria. This is why the likes of Tinubu spend less time talking and more time on strategizing, building bridges and amassing influence while some emotional folks are busy wailing all over the place.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by teebell999(m): 10:39pm On Apr 23, 2016
Omotaday:
Im an Ardent reader of this section. I have also been following the issue of Saraki. I need clarification on some issues. Why is everyone poiting accusing finger at Bola Tinubu? The Bola Tinubu i know is a formal governor of Lagos state and also a veteran politician, the last time i check he is not part of the federal executives, he is not a minister of justice, he is not the president of this country. Why then do people think he could have had the power to be punishing Saraki currently through the judiciary? Does he have the control over the FG and its arms? Why is everyone thinking he is behind Saraki case? Why is everyone blaming him for Saraki woes? Please i need reasonable clarifications.

question!!!!
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Alphaoscar: 10:39pm On Apr 23, 2016
5starmilitant:


What about funsho Williams

Jagabat is a confirm murderer





is there any evidence to such an allegation any idi0t can wake up one day to say anything but until such allegation arise from a reasonable source with cogent evidence.



let me remind you of the fact that since Funso Williams murder the only set of people detained , questioned or arrested on that case are all PDP members and leaders.


his party was in power when he was murdered and still controlled power for years after his murder, why can't they prosecute Tinubu for his death if truly their is anything linking Tinubu to Williams death We all know how his families was treated by the same PDP days after his death.


It is not too late for anyone with cogent evidence and facts linking Tinubu to Funso Williams murder case to present it.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Leez(m): 10:42pm On Apr 23, 2016
Gbawe:


Entirely correct. I actually feel embarrassed for those from the SE obsessed with Tinubu, constantly wishing him harm and are always keen to point the finger of blame at him. Asiwaju has no time for them and continues to do his thing while remaining a mentor to politicians who want to succeed in the very murky and mercilessly treacherous water of Nigerian politics. Is Saraki a saint? Even if Tinubu is behind the travails of Saraki, can some emotional folks tell us whether Saraki did wrong or not?

Throughout the world, because politics is an arena of gladiators, politicians plot to bring down their enemies daily. That is a political fact mature and pragmatic folks accept. If you give your political opponents that you treacherously backstabbed 'ammunition' then why scream if they use it to nail you after you stepped out of line and arrogantly trod on powerful toes as if you are invincible? When Saraki was busy conducting a treacherous and deceitful election, while embarrassing his Party before the world, did people expect the APC to accept such an embarrassment that would only set an international precedence confirming the ruling Party as weak and impotent? It seems some emotional folks don't understand how politics is played ruthlessly around the world, to include even in the finest and oldest democracies, before they come here boring about Tinubu this and Asiwaju that. As if we do not know that the constant mention of Tinubu is the painful wailing of those envious of the man's political brilliance and ability.
are u serious se ppl with tinubu?lmao
no one here cares for buhari much less tinubu
seriously some of yall posters nid to check wat u post
tinubu se?smh

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by malachytochukwu(m): 10:45pm On Apr 23, 2016
Omo your English no be here oo
Omotaday:
Im an Ardent reader of this section. I have also been following the issue of Saraki. I need clarification on some issues. Why is everyone poiting accusing finger at Bola Tinubu? The Bola Tinubu i know is a formal governor of Lagos state and also a veteran politician, the last time i check he is not part of the federal executives, he is not a minister of justice, he is not the president of this country. Why then do people think he could have had the power to be punishing Saraki currently through the judiciary? Does he have the control over the FG and its arms? Why is everyone thinking he is behind Saraki case? Why is everyone blaming him for Saraki woes? Please i need reasonable clarifications.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by udy4real(m): 10:46pm On Apr 23, 2016
Goke7:
Its the same way they keep blaming Awolowo for their civil war defeat. They must always blame somebody sha

U no see ur head as e be
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by focus7: 10:47pm On Apr 23, 2016
folks4luv:

Me I believe u, cause you just made common sense
I know you are here for likes and share. But let me ask you if you see common sense will you recognise it?
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Elxandre(m): 10:51pm On Apr 23, 2016
Many Nigerians are shameless hypocrites who have no sense of justice and fairness.

Tinubu got freed for a similar case, but hypocrites are saying Saraki shouldn't be freed for the same wrong doing.
Instead they shower praise on Tinubu and say Saraki should face his own music, when in fairness, Tinubu should be retried since the judge admitted his error in freeing him back then.

Only an idiott wouldn't know that Saraki is being persecuted by the people he agitated through his desperation.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Satex(m): 10:56pm On Apr 23, 2016
@Dammytosh.
I like people with the strength to post very intelligent comments. You are one of them. Some folks totally lack the ability to reason like rational beings and discuss issues objectively. Something is seriously wrong with some set of people in this country. Their mentality is corrupt. They don't argue based on facts on the ground. They are always drawing comparisms. I feel so sad anytime I read comments like 'Saraki is not the only corrupt person. Tinubu is also corrupt'. 'Since Tinubu was released, Saraki too should be released'. These are comments of people with a criminal mentality. And only those who are mentally dwarf tow this line of argument. Such people cannot post matured and intelligent comments. They are always abusive. Even though it is far better to ignore such fellows, sometimes it is good to treat their 'toxic' ignorance. PMB was not in power when Tinubu was freed! It is quite unfortunate living and interacting with people who are suffering from "Stinking Thinking".

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by AirFireEarthH20: 11:03pm On Apr 23, 2016
focus7:
If Tinubu is indeed behind Saraki travail that he has so much control on the media, the judiciary, the CCT and the executive without having to raise voice in the public over this issue, then this Tinubu must be very powerful, I guess we must all agree that he controls the government without occupying any political office while Saraki is just occupying office yet with limited influence. Just to borrow one common sense that is if common sense in anyway common. Do you think if Tinubu has so much control on the CCT the chairman would open declaration that he made error in Tinubu's case?

It's like you don't understand your country very well. These are political issues and statement using the tribunal as a cover-up. Based on the CCB act, CCT discharged of Tinubu was NOT in error, fact#1. CCT has no jurisdiction to try criminal or quasi-criminal matters, fact#2.

Even if the CCT finds Saraki guilty, the case will be thrown out by the higher court. Remember, Saraki's case is a political one and it will be resolved politically using the court as a cover-up. You may not understand where I'm coming from sha
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Babateemd: 11:05pm On Apr 23, 2016
That the EFCC / CCB have closed their eyes to saraki's file or the religious card he is playing has nothing to do with his culpability.
Maybe it is time to show his dirty linens to the public. A decision to dust his file may have been influenced by some not happy members of his party. Not sure. Thus the sayings if you live in a glasshouse don't throw stones. He threw the first stone by stopping Tinubu for VP slot which by the way most people think was a good idea because it would have been an easy ride for the PDP. I honestly think the senate president should resign and focus on his fight. Win his name back with almost "100 lawyers" and strategize for future politics. In this stormy and rumbling period I am not sure if there will be a way out. Office of the SP is a high post. To strengthen our democracy , we need to accord necessary respect for the office. You can't be standing trial and be the presiding over constitution. In other climes e.g. Brazil. If buhari approves that Dilma rouseff be tried then she has to resign for a period of 180 days while the trial stands. Same should apply to Nigeria.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by coolplanet: 11:06pm On Apr 23, 2016
Omotaday:
He is one of the founding member of the party, ok but what power does it have to be the one to choose the senate president ? Why him? We have Atiku, Bisi Akande, Obj, Buhari in this same party.

Permit me to respond to your question. Guy,we are in Nigeria where things happen abnormally. There are some people who remain powerful in the country and feel they are untouchable .eg Obj,IBB,tinubu and the likes.
Saraki's persecution started when he fails to respect the parties decision and dine with PDP.
Tinubu has the intension of choosing lawan as senate president but was outsmart by Atiku and saraki.
A reliable source confirmed that Buhari told Tinubu to give others chance to also choose since he chose the vice president, that was when Tinubu hardly visit Aso rock.
Do u know despite the fact that EFCC claimed to be an independent entity ,the federal govt still controls it.so the judiciary could also be influenced by powerful people.dont forget that our judiciary is the worse in terms of corruption.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by pelepeleb: 11:09pm On Apr 23, 2016
noblebaba:
Firstly Tinubu doesn't want any politician to be rated above him,secondly he was eyeing the number two position which saraki does not agree with which is muslim/muslim ticket if he had succeded to be number two apc would have lost because of religion,thirdly he has someone in mind to occupy where saraki is sitting presently whom he can easily control,Tinubu may not be in the present cabinet but u and I knew that he is the most powerful in Apc buhari is just learning politics and tinubu is an expert without living bourdilon he knew whom to give instructions to and if u don't coperate forget your sit.so we all knew that if tinubu want saraki to be discharge tomorow he can do it and since he has not say anything then silence means I'm behind it shikena



what so ever you say it is clear that he that uses sward to pass over a mans head will not want it to be use over his head. this is what Mr bukola is doing to governor fatai of Kwara state. why don't you bow to tinubu as governor fatai is bowing to you, you forcefully collecting state money as if it's your fathers money, you are doing godfather in Kwara state you think you can do it at national level hun you are in trouble. stop dribbling yourself. resign from politic. swallow your shame. remember your father called you thief and that you will end up in jail. the word of the elder must come to pass.

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Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Alphaoscar: 11:09pm On Apr 23, 2016
ezebunafo:
u didn't mention dokpesi




God bless you Sir.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by TijaniAbu: 11:09pm On Apr 23, 2016
The Internet never forgets. Written words may falter, but pictures hardly lie. Tinubu is the architect of the APC's current instability and Saraki's woes. Have you all forgotten the channels tv footage of June 9 2015? Where Tinubu LIED that Buhari called a meeting of senators at Intl Convention Centre? Buhari was at home asleep. As Tinubu entered that venue with a spring in his step, he declared for all and sundry to hear and see "we are here for something important". He tried to truncate the democracy and independence of NASS, by falsely assuming the powers of the presidency, along with his stooge the fake pastor, vp Osinbajo. Saraki thwarted him, and was elected first among his equals, openly on NASS Floor. Tinubu has since been the fatally wounded animal who has vowed to burn Saraki's bones and drink his blood. But look at Tinubu? Wizened and shrivelled, he cannot succeed. Saraki as Senate President is a victory for democracy. Take it or leave it but don't forget to watch it! Channels TV -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfKa2wBt_qg
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by MDOLOFU: 11:09pm On Apr 23, 2016
Omotaday:
He is one of the founding member of the party, ok but what power does it have to be the one to choose the senate president ? Why him? We have Atiku, Bisi Akande, Obj, Buhari in this same party.
stop talking as if u are not a Nigerian haba
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Phemostiga(m): 11:15pm On Apr 23, 2016
5starmilitant:

What about funsho Williams
Jagabat is a confirm murderer
watch ur tongue.sora ee
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by TijaniAbu: 11:16pm On Apr 23, 2016
pelepeleb:




what so ever you say it is clear that he that uses sward to pass over a mans head will not want it to be use over his head. this is what Mr bukola is doing to governor fatai of Kwara state. why don't you bow to tinubu as governor fatai is bowing to you, you forcefully collecting state money as if it's your fathers money, you are doing godfather in Kwara state you think you can do it at national level hun you are in trouble. stop dribbling yourself. resign from politic. swallow your shame. remember your father called you thief and that you will end up in jail. the word of the elder must come to pass.

You cannot be a Kwaran. Do Kwarans bow? Saraki will see the end of Tinubu, either in front of Tinubu's eyes, or in front of Tinubu's grave. He who God has chosen, no man can oppose. Who is Tinubu beyond a chicago druglord with a forged certificate who duped lazy Lagosians into feasting off their effort? A frog-eyed thieving drug addicted midget of a one-time senator, two time provincial governor? Kinibig deal? Saraki or no Saraki, Tinubu is finished, he cannot feast off Kwarans taxes as he does in Lagos. If you want to bow to him please feel free. Dullard.
Re: Saraki: Why Is Everyone Pointing Finger At Tinubu? by Seunjungle(m): 11:17pm On Apr 23, 2016
Why people so soon forget things?

People have forget to realise that Mr President himself find it difficult to hold meeting with Saraki after manipulated its way to the seat of Sen. Pres which was against the will of the ruling party?

Do Buhari want Saraki to remain there?

Do their party want Sariki to remain there?

Likewise, Jagaban as their party leader will never want Sariki to be there too because Bukola went to the last length against them.

Those pointing to Jagaban are bias!

They don't know the real sense and the rules of the game!

APC can not be that stupid to be watching it's enemies (PDP camp) to take measures over its affair.. NO!

Where's Tinubu's fault over there?

Pride kills Bukola Saraki!

Don't forget that Bukola fought his father and the entire family in other to get power?

Same he did to his bloods also to his entire Party's will....but, this one blocks his pharyngeal cavity!

Had it been Bukola applied as Dogara did according to party's will after he (Dogara) went against them, Bukolas case would have been simple.

Nobody is witch hunting Saraki but pride doing so!

Let Jagaban be!!!!

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