Let's even assume pep beats athletico and fails to win the final or athletico knocks him out and he fails to reach the finals. Will A40 be justified? I had say,Yes!!!!

However,for many who are still skpetical about Pep's genius as a coach regarding the round leather game(I inclusive),I say we wait till next season.

He will be inheriting a multimillion pounds squad in Man city. Plus,he will also have the resources required to buy whoever he needs.

For us the skpetics we would love to see him prove us wrong by dominating Europe and the league with man city.

If he does,he gets crowned a Genius. If he doesn't,then Nihilist,afrodoc,I and several others would have being justified.

Agreed?

Well there have been lot of great managers some reach the top doing extra ordinary stuffs. One thing i know is that all this great managers gave their 'BUT'. This makes the job of Camparing managers very tiresome and debatable.

Nevetheless I believe Mou and Pep are both genius of their generation and trying to Find the better one is just like trying to Find the better between Messi and Ronaldo. No compromise can ever be reached.

diggz:
Let's even assume pep beats athletico and fails to win the final or athletico knocks him out and he fails to reach the finals. Will A40 be justified? I had say,Yes!!!!

However,for many who are still skpetical about Pep's genius as a coach regarding the round leather game(I inclusive),I say we wait till next season.

He will be inheriting a multimillion pounds squad in Man city. Plus,he will also have the resources required to buy whoever he needs.

For us the skpetics we would love to see him prove us wrong by dominating Europe and the league with man city.

If he does,he gets crowned a Genius. If he doesn't,then Nihilist,afrodoc,I and several others would have being justified.

Agreed?

If dominating Europe is a strong yardstick for measuring genius, then Mou is never a genius. Mou never dominated Europe despite winning UCL with two clubs. Nobody feared his team, nobody talks about the style he won with, you dominate when other clubs pray never to be drawn against you.
When Pep was at Barca, every coach including the great SAF never wished to play his team, that's dominance.
By the way, Mou too took over a Madrid team that was an assemblage of stars with enough money to get who ever he wanted because Madrid wanted to dominate Europe at all cost as Barca were doing, we all know how it ended. Mou had to play dirty even to rescue something out for his team and still got fired while Pep's style of play still remains the reference point till today.
If Mou is genius, so is Pep regardless if he wins UCL with Bayern.

pamcode:
Well there have been lot of great managers some reach the top doing extra ordinary stuffs. One thing i know is that all this great managers gave their 'BUT'. This makes the job of Camparing managers very tiresome and debatable.

Nevetheless I believe Mou and Pep are both genius of their generation and trying to Find the better one is just like trying to Find the better between Messi and Ronaldo. No compromise can ever be reached.

I give it to you bro!
What makes Mou genius despite his shortcomings also makes Pep one as there's no coach anywhere in the world who achieved and won it all every time.

pamcode:
Well there have been lot of great managers some reach the top doing extra ordinary stuffs. One thing i know is that all this great managers gave their 'BUT'. This makes the job of Camparing managers very tiresome and debatable.

Nevetheless I believe Mou and Pep are both genius of their generation and trying to Find the better one is just like trying to Find the better between Messi and Ronaldo. No compromise can ever be reached.

the only sensible thing i've read all day.

Nihilist:


Messi was the 2nd best player in the world before Pep.
If you're the second best in the world at 21, why is it not logical to think that Messi would have eventually still become the beast that he is right now regardless of manager?

How come Pep has yet been unable to mould another Messi?

cr7 present in la Liga make messi to up his over all game. Pep ke?

sebod:

If dominating Europe is a strong yardstick for measuring genius, then Mou is never a genius. Mou never dominated Europe despite winning UCL with two clubs. Nobody feared his team, nobody talks about the style he won with, you dominate when other clubs pray never to be drawn against you.
When Pep was at Barca, every coach including the great SAF never wished to play his team, that's dominance.
By the way, Mou too took over a Madrid team that was an assemblage of stars with enough money to get who ever he wanted because Madrid wanted to dominate Europe at all cost as Barca were doing, we all know how it ended. Mou had to play dirty even to rescue something out for his team and still got fired while Pep's style of play still remains the reference point till today.
If Mou is genius, so is Pep regardless if he wins UCL with Bayern.

who tell you say SAF dey fear to play Barca ?
like say we never beat una twice on our way to win this thing.

there is nothing like pep style

hensben:
cr7 present in la Liga make messi to up his over all game. Pep ke?

this man has come again

SIRcumalot:

who tell you say SAF dey fear to play Barca ?
like say we never beat una twice on our way to win this thing.

there is nothing like pep style

Man U haven beaten Barca before but no team wanted to face Barca in 010/11 UCL.

pelvicky:
this man has come again

what do you know

sebod:

If dominating Europe is a strong yardstick for measuring genius, then Mou is never a genius. Mou never dominated Europe despite winning UCL with two clubs. Nobody feared his team, nobody talks about the style he won with, you dominate when other clubs pray never to be drawn against you.
When Pep was at Barca, every coach including the great SAF never wished to play his team, that's dominance.
By the way, Mou too took over a Madrid team that was an assemblage of stars with enough money to get who ever he wanted because Madrid wanted to dominate Europe at all cost as Barca were doing, we all know how it ended. Mou had to play dirty even to rescue something out for his team and still got fired while Pep's style of play still remains the reference point till today.
If Mou is genius, so is Pep regardless if he wins UCL with Bayern.

@ sebod...

I don't care about the comparison BTW MOU and pep for the records.

The post you responded to never indicated any comparison BTW both coaches so pls don't deviate.

The fact is I and many orders are in doubt of the bogus genius title you gladly dash pep at will bro. I personally wont judge him till I see what he does with the city team down 2 to 3 seasons.

If he fails to replicate the dominance he had with barca team or win at least a UCL cup for city or qualify them for finals and minimum of the semis. Then you and I will have to agree he doesn't deserve the genius title.

Agreed??

diggz:


@ sebod...

I don't care about the comparison BTW MOU and pep for the records.

The post you responded to never indicated any comparison BTW both coaches so pls don't deviate.

The fact is I and many orders are in doubt of the bogus genius title you gladly dash pep at will bro. I personally wont judge him till I see what he does with the city team down 2 to 3 seasons.

If he fails to replicate the dominance he had with barca team or win at least a UCL cup for city or qualify them for finals and minimum of the semis. Then you and I will have to agree he doesn't deserve the genius title.

Agreed??

Fixed sir!

sebod:

Fixed sir!

What are u fixing sir?

Or what did u fix sir?

U funny sha

diggz:


What are u fixing sir?

Or what did u fix sir?

U funny sha

You didn't get it? I actually agreed with the emboldened as I am sure he'll succeed in City.

sebod:

You didn't get it? I actually agreed with the emboldened as I am sure he'll succeed in City.

Ok. Great.....!

@ Nihililist, afrodoc,A40,GBR1

Sebod has agreed to a deal. Na to wait make pep reach city remain oooo...!

diggz:



Ok. Great.....!

@ Nihililist, afrodoc,A40,GBR1

Sebod has agreed to a deal. Na to wait make pep reach city remain oooo...!

Yes I agreed because I am sure he'll dominate EPL and do well in Europe. But, I'll also be here to remind you guys when his success is attributed to something else....like working with great materials already prepared by his predecessor... God sparing us all till then.

The only thing he would do at City is win in England maybe win 2 league titles

I doubt City would win the CL

raumdeuter:
The only thing he would do at City is win in England maybe win 2 league titles

I doubt City would win the CL

City might not win the CL, it's no guarantee for any club. But, trust him to always push the team to the semis. I am just interested in what his success would be attributed to when he gets there.

sebod:

City might not win the CL, it's no guarantee for any club. But, trust him to always push the team to the semis. I am just interested in what his success would be attributed to when he gets there.

Most said he would fail in England but what is failure in england? I think he would win the league and do well in their domestic competition

raumdeuter:


Most said he would fail in England but what is failure in england? I think he would win the league and do well in their domestic competition

Inabilty to qualify City for the UCL semis (atleast twice)!!

Dadehmola:


Inabilty to qualify City for the UCL semis (atleast twice)!!

He must move past the CL semis at least in my opinion. He is replacing Pellegrini who has made the semis and i'm sure City are not hiring him to make semis, but to win the CL. Time will tell.

Dadehmola:


If he fails to qualify city for the UCL semis (atleast twice), he has failed the club!!

this guy no be Jesus na !!
a coach is only as good as the talent he manages.

Dadehmola:
Inabilty to qualify City for the UCL semis (atleast twice)!!

That would depend on who they meet and who knocks them out. If he's knocked by say a much superior team narrowly. Like say lose on penalty to like last year Barcelona. I wont consider it a failure.

SIRcumalot:

this guy no be Jesus na !!
a coach is only as good as the talent he manages.

Maybe if Pellegrini was reaching semi regularly or won the CL they wont have had the need to hire Guardiola in the first place

City hired him when they havent made a CL semi.

GBR1:

He must move past the CL semis at least in my opinion. He is replacing Pellegrini who has made the semis and i'm sure City are not hiring him to make semis, but to win the CL. Time will tell.

Me thinks pep's primary assignment would be to make city a force to reckon with in Europe.

Back - to - back qualification for the semi finals (atleast), would be the 1st step in that direction.

If he achieves more than that, all well and good!

sebod:

Yes I agreed because I am sure he'll dominate EPL and do well in Europe. But, I'll also be here to remind you guys when his success is attributed to something else....like working with great materials already prepared by his predecessor... God sparing us all till then.

When Pep decided he was leaving Bayern, he had the choice on a platter to chose from United, Chelsea and City etc but he picked City who currently and undeniably have the best squad in the league and this package comes with almost unlimited funds for him to spend as he pleases. Regardless, he still gonna spend so much money and sign the very best players for him to compete and we both know why; he has always had the best of the crop to work with and City is the club in the PL that comes so close to guaranteeing that.
He has had his work cut out for him obviously and saying the contrary is very deceitful.

SIRcumalot:

this guy no be Jesus na !!
a coach is only as good as the talent he manages.

Considering his "reputation" and the kinda financial backing he is expected to get, a place in the CL semis isn't too much of an ask!

raumdeuter:

That would depend on who they meet and who knocks them out. If he's knocked by say a much superior team narrowly. Like say lose on penalty to like last year Barcelona. I wont consider it a failure.

Agreed!!

However, City's performance in Europe would have a major say in his "assessment form" at the end of his tenure at the Etihad.

It wouldn't even be outta place to expect him to better Pelle's achievements in the CL this season (atleast once).

GBR1:
When Pep decided he was leaving Bayern, he had the choice on a platter to chose from United, Chelsea and City etc but he picked City who currently and undeniably have be the best squad in the league and this package comes with almost unlimited funds for him. Regardless, he still gonna spend so much money and sign the very best players for him to compete and we both know why; he has always had the best of the crop to work with and City is the club in the PL that comes so close to guaranteeing that.
He has had his work cut out for him obviously and saying the contrary is very deceitful.

I honestly think he would've been better off picking us or Chelsea even.
on the surface the city job looks easy until you look at the squad's age and the amount of clearing out he'll be doing plus
the instant win now mentality the fans want,this won't be like the Bayern job.
and I think Pep knows this and want to prove his doubter wrong.
city has only two sure players and one is always injured.
his already a great coach but he somehow turns city into a European power house then nobody go talk rubbish.

GBR1:
When Pep decided he was leaving Bayern, he had the choice on a platter to chose from United, Chelsea and City etc but he picked City who currently and undeniably have the best squad in the league and this package comes with almost unlimited funds for him to spend as he pleases. Regardless, he still gonna spend so much money and sign the very best players for him to compete and we both know why; he has always had the best of the crop to work with and City is the club in the PL that comes so close to guaranteeing that.
He has had his work cut out for him obviously and saying the contrary is very deceitful.

If you know the Barca connections in City, you will not question his choice of going there. Besides, I don't know the amount he needs to spend at City that The baba olowo of Chelsea cannot supply.

Dadehmola:


Me thinks pep's primary assignment would be to make city a force to reckon with in Europe.

Back - to - back qualification for the semi finals (atleast), would be the 1st step in that direction.

If he achieves more than that, all well and good!

No no no. Pep is a genius, he is more than that. As some have said here transformed a nothing Barcelona to a team that won 2 CL in 3 years so why should reaching ordinary semis be the landmark for him in Man city where he would have unlimited cash?
Is it not the same reason some folks here would say Jose was a failure at madrid because he transformed a madrid team that couldn't go beyond the round of 16 for 7 years into one that made the semis for 3 years consecutively and now if Pep does similar with(which is less actually) you want us to say that he had a good time in Europe?

SIRcumalot:

I honestly think he would've been better off picking us or Chelsea even.
on the surface the city job looks easy until you look at the squad's age and the amount of clearing out he'll be doing plus
the instant win now mentality the fans want,this won't be like the Bayern job.
and I think Pep knows this and want to prove his doubter wrong.
city has only two sure players and one is always injured.
his already a great coach but he somehow turns city into a European power house then nobody go talk rubbish.

This is true. I was actually hoping he goes to Man Utd

WHo are the correct players in City? KdB Aguero and Joe Hart are the only 3 I can say are good. Kompany Silva Zabaleta KolarovSagna Fernandinho etc are all over 30. So who are the players in City that makes them a top squad

SIRcumalot:

I honestly think he would've been better off picking us or Chelsea even.
on the surface the city job looks easy until you look at the squad's age and the amount of clearing out he'll be doing plus
the instant win now mentality the fans want,this won't be like the Bayern job.
and I think Pep knows this and want to prove his doubter wrong.
city has only two sure players and one is always injured.
his already a great coach but he somehow turns city into a European power house then nobody go talk rubbish.

I admire your assessment of the City squad. The team did not win the league last season and have already lost it this season. If Pep gets there, eliminates some big names, brings his own players, plays a style beautiful to behold and wins titles in the process, while some may be forced to admit he's genius, there are some that would still find a way of down playing his achievements.