9jacrip:


Lol

Prolly a rickety looking cattle fucking idiot.

You best thank you stars for the Jihad & Nigeria. Else, you prolly would have been wasting away in the heat of Futa JGallon .

Fvcking tse-tse fly.

lol! That's pretty weak, little small fry.

Crazy how the thread ended up here.

GorkoSusaay:
Crazy how the thread ended up here.

This was its purpose in the first place, you can tell by the blunder the op made there was something fishy. this was definitely not created by a distressed Hausa person.

VomeSchakleton:


This was its purpose in the first place, you can tell by the blunder the op made there was something fishy. this was definitely not created by a distressed Hausa person.

Yeah but how that Lawani guy jumped in with all that nonsense. Kind of scary that people who are so ignorant can be that obnoxious

GorkoSusaay:


Yeah but how that Lawani guy jumped in with all that nonsense. Kind of scary that people who are so ignorant can be that obnoxious

Flaw of freedom of speech, people are free to flood the world with their ignorance.

9jacrip:



I get your drift.

I used take back in the sense of the use of 'emir' and palace structure.

In Ilorin, they call the ruler Oba, Emir is only a media title but they are Islamists and have no Egun. However they are no less fetish than Ibadan people with ebos placed here and there. If they want to be Islamic, they will be Yoruba Islamic not with a different identity but my hope is that all these barbarian Abrahamic practices characterized by an obsession to win souls should be banned in Yoruba land. They are demonic. Olodumare is enough for us.

lawani:


In Ilorin, they call the ruler Oba, Emir is only a media title but they are Islamists and have no Egun. However they are no less fetish than Ibadan people with ebos placed here and there. If they want to be Islamic, they will be Yoruba Islamic not with a different identity but my hope is that all these barbarian Abrahamic practices characterized by an obsession to win souls should be banned in Yoruba land.
They are demonic. Olodumare is enough for us.

I didn't know they call their ruler that, I thought they use 'Emir'.

Apart from the appellation, the throne seems too Islamic/arabized to be regarded as an 'Oba-ship' but as you said, I hope the emboldened happens someday or at least traditional system gets aggressively promoted and placed where it should be.

9jacrip:


I didn't know they call their ruler that, I thought they use 'Emir'.

Apart from the appellation, the throne seems too Islamic/arabized to be regarded as an 'Oba-ship' but as you said, I hope the emboldened happens someday or at least traditional system gets aggressively promoted and placed where it should be.

Hausas till today call their Kings Sarki and Nupes call theirs Etsu. The Emir appellation is used mainly in Newspapers and by educated folks but it is Islamic all thesame. Ilorin is Islamic as well but Islam and all Abrahamic religions makes no sense and as reasonable people we must initiate the drive to return our people to how God created them to be like the Japanese, Chinese and etc.

Fullamafia:


Even though your answer is in the negative (No), I will not honor this mischievous and fraudulent thread with any further responses. You can do your research to enlighten you further. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazzau

Below is the Emir of Zazzau (Zaria), he is HAUSA-FULANI (like the other emirs of the modern Emirates), ignore the mischievous Igbo OP that is trying to give the impression that Hausa and Fulani are a separate people, all that division ended in the 19th century after Danfodio's era.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "HAUSA-FULANI". THATS A POLITICAL COINAGE FOR EXPEDIENCY AND TO GARNER NUMBERS AND WE ALL KNOW DEMOCRACY IS A GAME OF NUMBERS......



THESE TWO VERY DISSIMILAR TRIBES HAVE THEIR UNIQUE LANGUAGES AND CULTURE! HECK! MY SECURITY GUARD HERE IN ABUJA IS A FULANI MAN FROM TARABA WITH POOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE HAUSA LANGUAGE!


WHO IS DECEIVING WHO?!

lawani:


Hausas till today call their Kings Sarki and Nupes call theirs Etsu. The Emir appellation is used mainly in Newspapers and by educated folks but it is Islamic all thesame. Ilorin is Islamic as well but Islam and all Abrahamic religion makes no sense and as reasonable people will must initiate the drive to return our people to how God created them to be like the Japanese, Chinese and etc.

CASELESS NDUCHUKS FIZZNATION BUHARISBAE WHERE UNA DEY

gykes:



THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "HAUSA-FULANI". THATS A POLITICAL COINAGE FOR EXPEDIENCY AND TO GARNER NUMBERS AND WE ALL KNOW DEMOCRACY IS A GAME OF NUMBERS......



THESE TWO VERY DISSIMILAR TRIBES HAVE THEIR UNIQUE LANGUAGES AND CULTURE! HECK! MY SECURITY GUARD HERE IN ABUJA IS A FULANI MAN FROM TARABA WITH POOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE HAUSA LANGUAGE!


WHO IS DECEIVING WHO?!

Did your capslock get stuck?

VomeSchakleton:


Did your capslock get stuck?

Smh! Writing in full block letters depicts contemp! ....

And, yes, you have been noticed

gykes:



Smh! Writing in full block letters depicts contemp! ....

And, yes, you have been noticed

Writing in full block letters demonstrates a mad man shouting maniacally.

mike404:
CASELESS NDUCHUKS FIZZNATION BUHARISBAE WHERE UNA DEY

. abeg how does this post concern me na?

buharisbae:
. abeg how does this post concern me na?

CUZ YOU ARE A NORTHERNER AND YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT KWARA STATE. WHERE DO YOU STAND

mike404:
CUZ YOU ARE A NORTHERNER AND YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT KWARA STATE. WHERE DO YOU STAND

. na u dash me northerner

biko u need sleep

mike404:
CUZ YOU ARE A NORTHERNER AND YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT KWARA STATE. WHERE DO YOU STAND

. na u dash me northerner na

buharisbae:
. na u dash me northerner

biko u need sleep

SO YOU NO BE NORTHERNER AGAIN

After all this heated debate if you need suya, hola @ ur boy here!

mike404:
SO YOU NO BE NORTHERNER AGAIN

wah? cuz I'm buharisbae I'm nw northerner

VomeSchakleton:


Writing in full block letters demonstrates a mad man shouting maniacally.

It takes a mad man to know another who shouts like a maniac.

lawani:
I took a renewed interest in this Ilorin case many years ago after reading an interview by the Balogun Ajikobi of Ilorin either in Punch or Tribune after Gov Lawal promoted Magaji Aare Afonja to first class. The Balogun Ajikobi was brandishing the Protection agreement signed by his ancestors and lamenting that he the rightful Oba Ilorin as been sidelined by the powers that be. In the interview their history was related, both Shitta Bey and Ajikobi were brothers, sons of Alaafin Abiodun who escaped from Oyo ile when Muslims were attacked as a fallout of the killing of Afonja in Ilorin, Ajikobi fled to Ilorin while Shitta Bey fled to Sierra Leone from where he relocated to Lagos and became a millionaire who used his money to further the cause of Islam, The Ottomann Turks heard of him and honoured him with the Bey title. The family are still in Lagos. They are Lagosians. Ajikobi the other brother relocated to Ilorin was made Balogun and he joined the jihad to Islamise Yoruba land. He was captured by Ibadan when the Ilorin were routed in Osogbo, sent to the Alaafin and executed, the non Yorubas were released. Ilorin never was strong enough to take on Ibadan again. The Balogun Hausa of Ilorin with others later submitted under Oba Moma as their sovereign, Oba Moma was approved by the Alaafin and the Oyo princes and other Yoruba, they exchanged presents but as he warmed up to Ibadan, the Balogun Gambari, Ajikobi and others opposed him furiously and the man committed suicide in 1895, next to be crowned in 1896 was Sulayman Dan Aliyu, a member of Ajikobi, that was the one who signed the protection agreement in the custody of the present Ajikobi that he brandished in that newspaper interview but trust the Fulani supremacist, they will insist Oba Moma, Sulayman Dan Aliyu, Aminu Kano, Kwankwanso, MANDELA, Barrack Obama and even William the conqueror were all Fulbe. Despite that the Fulbe are a pitiable minority maybe not up to Ijaw if counted. That is amoral.

Again, the Emir of Ilorin named Gambari is a Yoruba man of Hausa descent as all Yoruba know. A man named Tapa is Nupe and a man named Gambari id Hausa descent and can never be Fulani but the Oba of Ilorin will revert to Afonja and Ajikobi very soon because it is their right and justice will be done.

I am Yoruba but pls stop saying Gambari is that is the height of self deceit no Yoruba man will want to beat the title EMIR God forbid

gykes:


It takes a mad man to know another who shouts like a maniac.

Or a really experienced professional.

AshiwajuFoward:
lawani or whatever you call yourself, you are a big disgrace to the Yoruba race. I make bold to say that because your ITK (I Too Know) led you to poke your nose into a discussion that does not concern you nor Yorubas in any way. The Op of this stuwpid thread is a Yee.bbo guy reputed for his inciteful and anti-Northern utterances. How his moment of foolishness concerns you is what I don't understand, so much so that you are obnoxiously arguing Hausa-Fulani history with Northerners and needlessly dragging Yorubas in the mud in the process. Sotay you are even begging Fulani support for the installation of a Yoruba Oba at ilorin. See where your presumptuous ITK has led you? Where the fvck is your pride?? I spit on your stoopeedity.

The guy is teaching you history and i'm sure you are a muslim, that's why you are feeling uneasy.

VomeSchakleton:


Or a really experienced professional.

I will leave you with the post below

hungryboy:
A wise man once said, that it takes a crazeman to recognise a crazeman

YOU URGENTLY NEED HELP!

gykes:


I will leave you with the post below




YOU URGENTLY NEED HELP!

Lame

Jobneeded12:


I am Yoruba but pls stop saying Gambari is that is the height of self deceit no Yoruba man will want to beat the title EMIR God forbid

The first Balogun Gambari in Ilorin was given that title by Yoruba people. That one was a Hausa man who became an Ilorin man. The present one is an Oyo man patrilineally descended from Hausa. Thesame can be said of the Oshodis in Lagos. They are Tapa by descent, Former Governor Jakande is Tapa by descent but they are Yoruba today. Yoruba are a mix like all groups. If you go to Nupe and Hausa land, there are people there of Yoruba descent who are now Hausa or Nupe.. So that is how it is, all Ilorin people are Yoruba. No town is 100 percent descended from thesame group. Come to Ilesa, it is thesame story but all are Ijesa.

lawani:


The first Balogun Gambari in Ilorin was given that title by Yoruba people. That one was a Hausa man who became an Ilorin man. The present one is an Oyo man patrilineally descended from Hausa. Thesame can be said of the Oshodis in Lagos. They are Tapa by descent, Former Governor Jakande is Tapa by descent but they are Yoruba today. Yoruba are a mix like all groups. If you go to Nupe and Hausa land, there are people there of Yoruba descent who are now Hausa or Nupe.. So that is how it is, all Ilorin people are Yoruba. No town is 100 percent descended from thesame group. Come to Ilesa, it is thesame story but all are Ijesa.

Lol! just like you said kwankwaso was hausa of yoruba descent eh? i would love an example these so called yoruba decended hausas.

VomeSchakleton:


Lol! just like you said kwankwaso was hausa of yoruba descent eh? i would love an example these so called yoruba decended hausas.

There are Yoruba of Portuguese descent in Lagos and one of them was head of the Ogboni in the late 19th and early 20th century. The Soun of Ogbomosho is Bariba descent, the Oshodi, Jakande and etc are Nupe descent. There are many Ebira, Tapa and etc descent in Ijesa but I wont mention them. There are 6 or 7 Principal chiefs in Ilorin with at least 4 or 5 of Yoruba descent while the masses are Yoruba and societal organisation is Yoruba but ruled by renegade Muslims in the past who were Yorubas, the one who put Ilorin under Britain was Yoruba. To the North are Yoruba towns with Obas up to Southern Niger state. No Bariba land was under Fulani ever because they were together with Yoruba in an alliance. So stop fantasizing about a Fulani takeover of Ilorin which never happened. I hate lies. Also, No city in the whole world is purely of one descent but they still have their identities. The Kano man who wrote what I quoted stated that Kano is cosmopolitan and that the Kanawa are not discriminatory and that a former Governor was from the strangers' quarters reserved for Yoruba in Kano, yet he became the Governor. He was referring to Kwankwanso but even if not, that is not my headache, it is only natural that many Hausa are of Yoruba descent just like many Yoruba are Hausa descent, all a result of centuries of interraction.

Fullamafia:


Even though your answer is in the negative (No), I will not honor this mischievous and fraudulent thread with any further responses. You can do your research to enlighten you further. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazzau

Below is the Emir of Zazzau (Zaria), he is HAUSA-FULANI (like the other emirs of the modern Emirates), ignore the mischievous Igbo OP that is trying to give the impression that Hausa and Fulani are a separate people, all that division ended in the 19th century after Danfodio's era.

You are a liar and a fraud.

No true Fulani man would say this crap, because the average Fulani man feels by birthright they are superior to Hausa man. The only reason they would even include "Hausa" in their title is due to political reasons.

A real Fulani man would know while the North always units itself to subdue the south, it is just as divided as the south due to the Fulani's lording over the Hausa, Gwari, Kanufi, etc. There is real tension there, but unlike the foolish Igbo and Yuroba, pride is always set aside for their domination of the center.

Only a Hausa man who is trying to add value to himself will say such nonsense or someone who knows nothing about the Fulani mind.

You are a FRAUD.

lawani:


There are Yoruba of Portuguese descent in Lagos and one of them was head of the Ogboni in the late 19th and early 20th century. The Soun of Ogbomosho is Bariba descent, the Oshodi, Jakande and etc are Nupe descent. There are many Ebira, Tapa and etc descent in Ijesa but I wont mention them. There are 6 or 7 Principal chiefs in Ilorin with at least 4 or 5 of Yoruba descent while the masses are Yoruba and societal organisation is Yoruba but ruled by renegade Muslims in the past who were Yorubas, the one who put Ilorin under Britain was Yoruba. To the North are Yoruba towns with Obas up to Southern Niger state. No Bariba land was under Fulani ever because they were together with Yoruba in an alliance. So stop fantasizing about a Fulani takeover of Ilorin which never happened. I hate lies. Also, No city in the whole world is purely of one descent but they still have their identities. The Kano man who wrote what I quoted stated that Kano is cosmopolitan and that the Kanawa are not discriminatory and that a former Governor was from the strangers' quarters reserved for Yoruba in Kano, yet he became the Governor. He was referring to Kwankwanso but even if not, that is not my headache, it is only natural that many Hausa are of Yoruba descent just like many Yoruba are Hausa descent, all a result of centuries of interraction.

I've been a little bewildered by your previous submissions. I just didn't get you, until now. Like the current English Royals, they are English but of Germanic descent, no?

lawani:


There are Yoruba of Portuguese descent in Lagos and one of them was head of the Ogboni in the late 19th and early 20th century. The Soun of Ogbomosho is Bariba descent, the Oshodi, Jakande and etc are Nupe descent. There are many Ebira, Tapa and etc descent in Ijesa but I wont mention them. There are 6 or 7 Principal chiefs in Ilorin with at least 4 or 5 of Yoruba descent while the masses are Yoruba and societal organisation is Yoruba but ruled by renegade Muslims in the past who were Yorubas, the one who put Ilorin under Britain was Yoruba. To the North are Yoruba towns with Obas up to Southern Niger state. No Bariba land was under Fulani ever because they were together with Yoruba in an alliance. So stop fantasizing about a Fulani takeover of Ilorin which never happened. I hate lies. Also, No city in the whole world is purely of one descent but they still have their identities. The Kano man who wrote what I quoted stated that Kano is cosmopolitan and that the Kanawa are not discriminatory and that a former Governor was from the strangers' quarters reserved for Yoruba in Kano, yet he became the Governor. He was referring to Kwankwanso but even if not, that is not my headache, it is only natural that many Hausa are of Yoruba descent just like many Yoruba are Hausa descent, all a result of centuries of interraction.

So what you're saying Is you can't give me a direct answer or any substantial evidence, only theories you pulled out of God knows where. Smh

I couldnt careless about who sits on the throne of Illorin, little small fry. Traditional rulers these days are irrelevant.