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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:31pm On May 20, 2016
solite3 look at my explanations on phiL 2:6-8, my statements and explanation of my statements.
I'm doing this to show you that unlike you, I'm ready to answer to requests.

may 9,2011
dolphinheart:



your analysis is wrong! Paul was talking about having the same mental attitude with christ , to have humility , to have unity and love in mind, to consider others superior to you.
For Jesus said :
King James Version
Mt 11:29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.


phil 2:6 English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,


the above verse is telling us that Jesus, despite being in the same nature or form with God , did not count it that he can be equal to God , a sharp contrast from Satan. He did not see his nature as giving him the right/ authority or chance to grasp equality with God.
col 1:15English Standard Version
He is THE IMAGE of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

heb 1: 3 International Standard Version
He is the reflection of God's glory and the exact likeness of his being, and he holds everything together by his powerful word. After he had provided a cleansing from sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Highest Majesty

* jesus is not the highest majesty!


phil 2:7 English Standard Version
but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.


Jesus was so humble that he agreed to take the form of a servant, so as to carry out the instructions of the highest majesty. so that God's purpose might be fulfilled.

King James Version
Joh 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth

King James Version
Joh 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

King James Version
1Jo 4:9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.


phil 2: 8 English Standard Version
And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross


Jesus, after humbly taking on human form, he continued being humble even to the point of death.
King James Version
Joh 10:17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

King James Version
Heb 2:9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

1Ti 2:5, 6For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,6who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.



phil 2: 9English Standard Version
Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name,


Again , you can see that Jesus is not the God in these verse. because of the humility, loyalty and love(even till death) that Jesus showed , God exalted him and gave him a name above every other name!

Isa 52:13Look! My servant will act with insight. He will be raised up high, He will be elevated and greatly exalted.

Ac 2:32, 33God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
33Therefore, because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you see and hear.

Eph 1:20, 21which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,
21far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name that is named, not only in this system of things but also in that to come.


1. Jesus was not/ never equal to God before, presently or in the future!
2. Jesus never at any time ever had the reputation as the most high!
3. Jesus was not said to take the form of an angel, he took the form of a human, that form is what the writer was referring to as a servants form!


read : www.bibleanswerstand.org/philippians.htm

ANGEL.
Strong's Concordance
malak: a messenger
Original Word: מַלְאָך
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: malak
Phonetic Spelling: (mal-awk')
Short Definition: angel

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from an unused word
Definition
a messenger
NASB Translation
ambassadors (2), angel (101), angels (9), envoys (1), messenger (24), messengers (76).


biblehub.com/hebrew/4397.htm

aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Short Definition: an angel, messenger
Definition: a messenger, generally a (supernatural) messenger from God, an angel, conveying news or behests from God to men.

biblehub.com/greek/32.htm

now the question, was Jesus sent by God to give us a message?
was jesus a supernatural being?

you did not answer my question, do you agree with the scriptures I quoted earlier?
when you respond, pls dnt muddle it up and endeavor to answer the questions there!

may 9
dolphinheart:

I NEVER SAID THAT!
jesus was in the form of God , same nature as God . These same divine nature is what the disciples prayed to be in.
King James Version
2Pe 1:4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

King James Version
1Jo 3:2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Jesus, being a son of God, had that same divine nature or form. The scripture says he is the image of God!

nature does not determine servitude. There are humans who do not serve God, likewise spirit creatures.

yes jehovah is not a man and never became a man, but jesus became a man!

john 1:14 New International Version
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us...........
New Living Translation
So the Word became human and made his home among us.......
English Standard Version
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,........

phil 2:7 New International Version
...... being made in human likeness.
New Living Translation
........was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form
English Standard Version
being born in the likeness of men.


that is why jesus refered to himself as the son of man, because he was a human!
King James Version
Isa 53:3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.


imagine, you are still claiming that Jesus is the same person as the one who anointed him. did Jesus anoint himself?
he sat at the right hand of the most high, Jesus is not the most high!

again, you refuse to answer my question!

may 11
dolphinheart:


continous lie against me will not make your lies turn to truth. I've asked you to show where I said you should where I said Jesus had one nature with God , you could not!
I've accused you of making false accusations without proof ,now I'm using this post to reaffirm my believe that you solite3 is very good at making false accusation without proof.
you use those false accusation as an excuse not to respond to certain questions and issues
For example, you claim jesus is still a man in heaven, and you said Jesus had a god cus he was a man. now you are being asked if jesus still has a God since he is a man in heaven?

*readers should note if he will answer the question above

you claimed jesus broke his body but only sacrificed his blood, I should you scriptures that explained that Jesus gave both his body and blood, you could only cancel it,refusing to respond to it.


may 11
dolphinheart:

solite3 , stop lying against me!
If you can't provide proof of what I said, stop lying!
an example: I have the same nature as my father
I have the same human nature as my father

I have the form of a human
my father has the form of a human
we both have the same human form

my father has his own human form
I have my own human form

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 3:38pm On May 20, 2016
Barristter07:
Jozzy4



hello sir ,

would u belive that this same guy johnw74 alias ",lie lie john " actually told me to go and search for those words in [[bible]] translations.


now he changed and said its not in the bible, but its movie ... but yet can tell me to go and search the translations for it ?



to sustain a lie, more lies have to be told.. thats his case. grin

oh my!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 3:44pm On May 20, 2016
johnw74

johnw74:


I never said it was in the Bible
but keep lying, it's all pharacee jw knows

you are putting yourself in more trouble .


- [size=27] this post above shows that you johnw74 is deceiving the readers by posting MISLEADING INFORMATION.
[/size]

there are some readers on Nairaland that doesnt bother to comment, so at first glance they will be mislead by your statement.

" look out Jesus said a Disciple
" . u never reveal this statement wasnt found in the bible UNTIL you are PreSSEd like an Orange. so such a reader who belives every thing, on seeing disciple
will believe its from the Bible ? thereby spreading false information.


2) To examine ur statement, I asked: show me where that statement can be found in the bible ? [size=23] you didnt confess
[/size]
instead

to which you johnw74 replied:

johnw74:


You can search the translations for it,


you now denied you never said its in the bible , shocked shocked ,why did you now said readers should search the translations for it ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 3:51pm On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:


Liar ! 1 Cor 15:24-28 , Jesus rules by authority of his God and Father.

the Ruler of the universe doesnt need the authority of anyone to rule. have u ever heard of the Father been given authority ? use your brain



vomit it ! 1 Cor 15:28 , Jesus will hand over the kingdom to his God and Father and will subject himself under the authority of Jehovah, his God and Father .

u do err Jesus and his father are both one God.John 16:15 All things that the father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Here Jesus was claiming ownership of whatever his father has.
Again chech this Luke 24:26
[color=#770077]Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into[b] his [/b]glory
[/color]
Was Christ given this glory before? Check this John17:5
And now, O Father , glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was here Jesus is saying that he had been having the same glory together with the father, he didn't say the glory that was given to him.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:01pm On May 20, 2016
solite3

solite3:
did he say it is in the Bible? False witness

cover your face in shame , you asked did he says it is in the Bible ?



johnw74

you can search the translations, [size=28] for it [/size]


he said IT ( the statement) should be search for where ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:08pm On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart

dolphinheart:


oh my!

brother, this shows the level at which people can go to lie . he said "you can search the translations for IT. "

yet he denied again that he never said its in the bible .


infact , imagine someone quoting a movie in a bible discussion , and never confessed this until he is seriously hammered. ... if not that he was caught , he would have continue with his lie of go and search translations for it, as if its there.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:
solite3 look at my explanations on phiL 2:6-8, my statements and explanation of my statements.
I'm doing this to show you that unlike you, I'm ready to answer to requests.

may 9,2011

when you respond, pls dnt muddle it up and endeavor to answer the questions there!

may 9


may 11


may 11

how does all these explain what u meant by this statement"Jesus has same nature as God" show me where u explained it.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:26pm On May 20, 2016
Barristter07:

solite3



cover your face in shame , you asked did he says it is in the Bible ?



he said IT ( the statement) should be search for where ?

u re only good at misquoting people, he never said it is in the Bible. It may not be in the exact way he puts it but the message he passes across is clear n it is in the bible. Barrister you are the one who should be ashamed after half quoting and misquoting me u are still jumping around picking words up and down.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:31pm On May 20, 2016
Barristter07:

dolphinheart



brother, this shows the level at which people can go to lie . he said "you can search the translations for IT. "

yet he denied again that he never said its in the bible .


infact , imagine someone quoting a movie in a bible discussion , and never confessed this until he is seriously hammered. ... if not that he was caught , he would have continue with his lie of go and search translations for it, as if its there.

how does this disprove what he posted about your organization undecided
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 4:32pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
u do err Jesus and his father are both one God.John 16:15 All things that the father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Here Jesus was claiming ownership of whatever his father has.
Again chech this Luke 24:26
[color=#770077]Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into[b] his [/b]glory
[/color]
Was Christ given this glory before? Check this John17:5
And now, O Father , glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was here Jesus is saying that he had been having the same glory together with the father, [size=26] he didn't say the glory that was given to him. [/size]

" have given them the glory that you gave me , " John 17:22

see your life .

again , Jesus will be subjected under the authority of his God and Father ( 1 cor 15:28) , do u belive this ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 4:38pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
u re only good at misquoting people, he never said it is in the Bible. It may not be in the exact way he puts it but the message he passes across is clear n it is in the bible.

this your drama is making me love this thread the more.

answer his question : john said the statement should be searched for at where ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:54pm On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:


" have given them the glory that you gave me , " John 17:22

see your life .

again , Jesus will be subjected under the authority of his God and Father ( 1 cor 15:28) , do u belive this ?

undecided John 17:5 Jesus is speaking about the glory he was yet to receive.
John 17:22 he is speaking about the glory he had at that present time.
Two different things cheesy grin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:56pm On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:


this your drama is making me love this thread the more.

answer his question : john said the statement should be searched for at where ?





do u even understand what he was saying?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:07pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
undecided John 17:5 Jesus is speaking about the glory he was yet to receive.



to receive from who ? will Almighty God receive glory from anyone ? grin




John 17:22 he is speaking about the glory he had at that present time.


that he was GIVEN, isnt it ?

can the Ruler of the universe be given glory ? use your thinking ability


Two different things cheesy grin

i see you are scared to answer me : Jesus Christ will be subjected to the authority of His God and Father, do u belive this ? 1 cor 15:28

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 6:11pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
do u even understand what he was saying?

yes I do

so answer him , dont dodge ur lie.

john said he should search those words at where ?

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:50pm On May 20, 2016
[quote author=Jozzy4 post=45808873]

to receive from who ? will Almighty God receive glory from anyone ? grin
God cannot receive anythin from any man because he owns all things except he put down his glory





that he was GIVEN, isnt it ?
that word that says Jesus was given glory is only used because he was a servant n a man cool.

can the Ruler of the universe be given glory ? use your thinking ability

the ruler puts down his crown n take it up again, is that hard to understand

i see you are scared to answer me : Jesus Christ will be subjected to the authority of His God and Father, do u belive this ? 1 cor 15:28
Do you believe the bible?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:59pm On May 20, 2016
Jozzy4:


yes I do

so answer him , dont dodge ur lie.

john said he should search those words at where ?
what he said was actually true, the Pharisees were actually looking for a way to trap Jesus in his words and that my friend was true.that is what matters
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:44pm On May 20, 2016
Barristter07:

dolphinheart



brother, this shows the level at which people can go to lie . he said "you can search the translations for IT. "

yet he denied again that he never said its in the bible .


infact , imagine someone quoting a movie in a bible discussion , and never confessed this until he is seriously hammered. ... if not that he was caught , he would have continue with his lie of go and search translations for it, as if its there.

I do understand sir, I've been following his denial on these thread ever since you asked him that question

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 8:52pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
how does all these explain what u meant by this statement"Jesus has same nature as God" show me where u explained it.

read the post again sir!, expecially where I quoted philipians 2: 6.

Your questions are still pending
Jesus has a God? yes or no
Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no
if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God !

1. On April 27, I asked you to do this:
" maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.
finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 "

2. on April 27 this request
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. on April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.

NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?
you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:08pm On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:


read the post again sir!, expecially where I quoted philipians 2: 6.

Your questions are still pending
Jesus has a God? yes or no
Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no
if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God !

1. On April 27, I asked you to do this:
" maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.
finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 "

2. on April 27 this request
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. on April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.

NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?
you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly
all I c are scriptures that do not relate to my question .All I want is for you to show me were u explained "Jesus has same nature as God" failure to do so will mean u re are a liar.
Mean while I answered ur questions but I told u I can't quote the whole verse. Let me post them again
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:21pm On May 20, 2016
dolphinheart:


maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.

finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9

if you can't explain these verses, then its you that needs forgiveness.
these were your words dolphinsheart , u initially asked me to share my view on these verses u never told me to quote and explain.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:38pm On May 20, 2016
[quote author=solite3 post=45380961]this was how I replied by even going extra mile to quote it
since u ve brought revelation1:4-6 let's c what it says
vs4 JOHN to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which was, and which is to come[b](referring to The father);[/b]and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne[b]( referring to the Holy Spirit)[/b]
vs5 And from Jesus Christ,who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
vs6 And hath made is kings and and priest unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.Amen.
hope I av addressed it. I will c if u will not refer back to rev1:8( which is the main issue n which had been addressed)
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:02pm On May 20, 2016
[quote author=solite3 post=45408248]I even told u who was talking in rev 3 [
b]the issue of who was talking in Revelation 1,2&3 it is Jesus[/b]
Then I explained heb 1:9.
as for heb1:9 brocab addressed it before I don' t like going back to things.
Hebrews1:9 Thou has loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;therefore God,even thy God,hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
This is in reference to Christ earthly ministry when Christ was anointed with the holy spirit(oil of gladness) without measure everyman that has ever receive the holy spirit was with measure but Christ own was without measure.Just as every man has a God so also Christ as a man has a God. This tells you Christ is a perfect man
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:35pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
all I c are scriptures that do not relate to my question .
that's what you programmed your eyes to see. read it again, slowly this time, examine the places I mentioned nature!


All I want is for you to show me were u explained "Jesus has same nature as God" failure to do so will mean u re are a liar.
Mean while I answered ur questions but I told u I can't quote the whole verse. Let me post them again

I've done that extensively, I can't be blamed for your failure to see it .

meanwhile, your questions are still pending

1. On April 27, I asked you to do this:
" maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.
finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 "

2. on April 27 this request
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. on April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.
NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?
you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:53pm On May 20, 2016
Just answer Solite3 question, dolpinheart do you agree the Father called Jesus God?
dolphinheart:

stop giving excuse on why you can't answer the questions.
go and un muddle your reply to where I explained philipians 2 : 6-8 so that I can reply you!

sir, those are facts surpported with evidence and not insults , a person who lies is called a liar!


oGa, I DID!


I've told you where they are located, go look at them, cus you yourself quoted them!


yes that's what I said , so why did you lie against me that I said Jesus and his father both have one nature?


because answering those questions will expose more of your false doctrines. you know that too, that's why you wunt quote and explain them


They are not blind arguments, they are not meaningless questions
the answers to those questions will go a long way to show if you are telling the truth or not


you quoted facts and not insults


only dubious people answer question with a question, hope you are not dubious . If you are not, then pls answer the question, then you can ask yours!

your questions are still pending

Jesus has a God, yes or no,?
jesus is subjected to that God , yes or no
if jesus has a God, how can He then be almighty God ?

1. On April 27, I asked you to do this:
" maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.
finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9 "

2. on April 27 jEphz
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.
NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?
you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up , or give part response
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:58pm On May 20, 2016
solite3:
these were your words dolphinsheart , u initially asked me to share my view on these verses u never told me to quote and explain.

now let's look at my question again:
" maybe you that knows the implication can explain what you understand by what's recorded in revelation 1:1, 4-6
and tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12.
finally can you tell us what you think about heb 1:9
if you can't explain these verses, then its you that needs forgiveness.
"

Now let's look at your deliberately seperated answers:

since u ve brought revelation1:4-6 let's c what it says
vs4 JOHN to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which was, and which is to come[b]( referring to The father);[ /b]and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne[ b]( referring to the Holy Spirit) [/b]
vs5 And from Jesus Christ,who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the faithful witness,and the first begotten of the of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
vs6 And hath made is kings and and priest unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever.Amen.
hope I av addressed it. I will c if u will not refer back to rev1:8( which is the main issue n which had been addressed)

did you see what you did wrong there ?, you failed to share your understand of verse 1, 5, and 6 of revelation chapter 1.
you deliberately omitted verse one and just quoted verse and 6 without telling us what you understand by what is written there.
therefore solite3, pls correct those deliberate omissions, you have not answered it.

b]the issue of who was talking in Revelation 1,2&3 it is Jesus[/b]
I did not ask you about revelation 1,2&3. I asked you to tell us who is talking in rev 3: 2,12
in your next post correct this too.

as for heb1:9 brocab addressed it before I don' t like going back to things.
Hebrews1:9 Thou has loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;therefore God,even thy God,hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
This is in reference to Christ earthly ministry when Christ was anointed with the holy spirit(oil of gladness) without measure everyman that has ever receive the holy spirit was with measure but Christ own was without measure.Just as every man has a God so also Christ as a man has a God. This tells you Christ is a perfect man
I will hold on to these your explanation of heb 1:9, will come back to it once you have added the omitted verses and made neccessary corrections in your next post.
you can see once again the verses you did not attend to , so dnt claim that you have answered all the questions.

The questions are still pending

1. Jesus has a God? yes or no
Jesus is subjected to that God ? yes or no
if Jesus have a God, how can He then be almighty God !

2. on April 27 this request
"for those saying Jesus is God.. pls. explain these Scripture for me ... Ephesians 5:1,2 1timothy 2:5 John 8:42 Act 2:22 Hebrews 12:2...... "

3. on April 29
" the God of our Lord Jesus Christ " Eph 1:17, who is the God of Jesus Christ ?

4. "You say Jesus is still a man in heaven, you also say Jesus has a God when he was a man.

NOW DOES Jesus STILL HAVE A GOD IN HEAVEN?"
who anointed Jesus? who is that person to Jesus?

you can see that the questions are numbered, so dnt muddle it up or answer partly.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:01am On May 21, 2016
If Christians are not suppose to make false allegations, then why do you call yourself a Christian in the first place. JW's are proven to be the greatest lairs when any religion is involved.
Hypocrites for you shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men, for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
I had asked you to prove, where I had lied against {Revelation 1:7-8} Please show the world who's lying, dolphinheart or the word of God.
dolphinheart:


UP TILL THIS MOMENT, NEITHER YOU NOR BROCAB COULD SHOW OR POINT TO WHERE I SAID THE WORD HE IS ACUSSIN ME OF SAYING.
Christians are not supposed to make false allegations, it is not a good thing, "liar" is a word used for those who do what brocab had done, it is not good to lie against someone else.

I've asked you and brocab to quote and explain
1. reV 1:1,4-6,
2. heb 1:9
I be also asked you to tell us who is talking in rev 3:2,12

THIS REQUEST YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FULLY CARRY OUT!

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:04am On May 21, 2016
dolphinheart:


everyone can always do what they want to do , you are not special when it comes to that.
But along with such privileges comes responsibility , the responsibility of doING things the right way.
one must always remember that when we do what we want, such actions determines who we are and what we are after, our personality and intentions.

If during a discussion or arguement about the scriptures, I ask you questions about the scriptures and seek your understanding of such scriptures but you refuse , despite replying and talking to me, IT SHOWS WHO YOU ARE!

Yes it shows I don't have anything to do with satans church
except expose their lies
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:06am On May 21, 2016
brocab:
Just answer Solite3 question, dolpinheart do you agree the Father called Jesus God?

like I said to him, I'll reply you the same way, only dubious people answer question with a question, hope you are not dubious brocab?
If you want that question answered, you can help him answer the question he was asked before he replied with a question, then ask these and ill answer you.

brocab, you asked me to show you certain scriptures, I've done so, but no response from you yet !

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:09am On May 21, 2016
johnw74:


Yes it shows I don't have anything to do with satans church
except expose their lies

but right now, we are not talking about any church, the request is for you to share your understanding about certain scriptures. from the transLation that you use.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:09am On May 21, 2016
Are you dubious? Or just pain stupid.
Answer Solite3 question, I did ask you to answer {Revelation 1:7-8} two months ago, and I am still waiting? So no-to your lies-you haven't answered the scripture I had asked you to answer.
dolphinheart:


like I said to him, I'll reply you the same way, only dubious people answer question with a question, hope you are not dubious brocab?
If you want that question answered, you can help him answer the question he was asked before he replied with a question, then ask these and ill answer you.

brocab, you asked me to show you certain scriptures, I've done so, but no response from you yet !
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:11am On May 21, 2016
Barristter07:
Jozzy4



hello sir ,

would u belive that this same guy johnw74 alias ",lie lie john " actually told me to go and search for those words in [[bible]] translations.


now he changed and said its not in the bible, but its movie ... but yet can tell me to go and search the translations for it ?



to sustain a lie, more lies have to be told.. thats his case. grin

pharacee jw cannot help but lie, I never said it's in the Bible
you asked for scripture I told you to look for it

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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