raumdeuter:


Did Man Utd not buy Berbatov and Carrick from Spurs easily?

Barca and Madrid are clubs with history and every player in the world dreams of playing for them. Even at a time when Man Utd was winning the CL and Madrid couldn't go beyond 2nd round, CR7 Man Utd's best player was dreaming of playing for Madrid, So who is Modric, Bale Suarez and Aguero. Many top players would play for Madrid or Barcelona for free

Historically Madrid and Barca have always bought the best players in the world. For the past 20yrs every WPOTY have played for either of the two teams

Its the highpoint of a players career to play for either of the two and it wont change anytime soon

Good, these two teams attract the best players in the world, that's why theyve been successful, most of the players that make them tick especially Madrid, are most times the best players from the EPL, what im trying to say is that, Madrid as an EPL club won't be able to sign Cr7,bale,Modric and some other star players all to themselves just like it will be hard for Chelsea to get cr7 from Man Utd, Liverpool would rather sell Suarez to Barca than sell him to Arsenal, Man city will never allow Aguero go to Chelsea.


In other words, the EPL star players are evenly spread among all the top clubs and even some small clubs unlike it is in Spain, Only Barca and Madrid have the best players in Spain, Only Bayern has the best players in the bundesliga, they would not even stop poaching for the best talents from clubs like Dortmund , Wolfsburg , Bayer and Co.

It's never like that in the EPL.

raumdeuter:


Who is responsible for these signings Jarosik, Smertin, Maniche Bhoularouz, Del Horno, SWP, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sidwell, Belleti, Alex, Quaresma

will you like emenalo to join bayern munich as director of football?

Nihilist:
This is the kind of thing I dislike.

There were a few people shouting 'Bleep Emenalo', only one of them took my post personal and started calling me clown and posting pictures of bar beach.

When we clap back now, we'll start hearing stories of degrees, and certifications.

Its already pretty obvious that no sense can be made of this conversation. I though Emenalo signed Lukaku? Now it's Emenalo that sidelined Lukaku

The same once proud team that finished 1st and 2nd actually finished 1st last season, and 3rd the year before only 4 points behind 1st place.

Emenalo became TD in 2011. If we judge by the shallow logic of team achievements, then we should consider that we've won multiple FA cups, Multiple European Titles, the league Cup and the actual league during his reign.

"Guus Hiddinks points per game would have seen us finish 9th. Who do we blame for that?"

Ermmmm I don't know....how about the freaking manager?

I don't see why the TD should be blamed for underachieving players.

Mehn I won't even bother responding to you again. Enjoy Bar Beach.

Meanwhile can any non-passive aggressive Emenalo hater table their factual reasons Emenalo is behind our alarming slump this season?

I am genuinely interested in hearing them

Edit: Forgot to add my own view
Absolutely loving this chair in front of me

Bigkesh, Dongorgon5, Diggz, Mathys, Donjaznet, over to you guys....do justice to this.

Dongorgon5:
will you like emenalo to join bayern munich as director of football?

I wont like anyone in Chelsea to join Bayern not even your Mourinho

raumdeuter:


Who is responsible for these signings Jarosik, Smertin, Maniche Bhoularouz, Del Horno, SWP, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sidwell, Belleti, Alex, Quaresma

Pantic and Amelia were free transfers and were clearly not signed for the first team.

Hector and Miazga are young prospects signed for less than 10 million pounds between them.

The only errors there were Baba and Pato...but how many teams are ever 100% on transfers?

Is it not the same Emenalo that brought in Hazard Costa Fabregas Cortouis Cahill Zouma Lukaku etc?

Or maybe there are two TDs at Chelsea - One of them buys all the good buys. Then Emenalo brings in the dross he can find. Oh! And the managers never have a say..

Nihilist:
Pantic and Amelia were free transfers and were clearly not signed for the first team.

Hector and Miazga are young prospects signed for less than 10 million pounds between them.

The only errors there were Baba and Pato...but how many teams are ever 100% on transfers?

Is it not the same Emenalo that brought in Hazard Costa Fabregas Cortouis Cahill Zouma Lukaku etc?

Or maybe there are two TDs at Chelsea - One of them buys all the good buys. Then Emenalo brings in the dross he can find. Oh! And the managers never have a say..

The part in bold is the key point. When a player is good its Mourinho, when the player is bad its Emenalo

Just like when Chelsea plays good under Mourinho - Its the Mourinhos tactics and genius
when they play good under another coach- Its because of the players desire and the discipline they learnt under Mourinho regime
When they play bad under Mourinho - Its because the players betrayed he coach or Emenalo/Roman is instigating them
When they play bad under another coach - Its because "I have been telling you this coach is terrible"

That was why I asked for who bought those players I listed who were mostly bought under Mourinho and before Emenalo. Was it Emenalo too?

raumdeuter:


Who is responsible for these signings Jarosik, Smertin, Maniche Bhoularouz, Del Horno, SWP, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sidwell, Belleti, Alex, Quaresma

this isn't totally related to this discussion going.
but is there not usually an agreement between the decision makers before a player is signed ?.
this idea of emenalo or Woodward signing one player and Jose or LvG signing another doesn't really make sense to me.
if the said players performs badly,the blame should be for everybody.

tenderheart1:
Good, these two teams attract the best players in the world, that's why theyve been successful, most of the players that make them tick especially Madrid, are most times the best players from the EPL, what im trying to say is that, Madrid as an EPL club won't be able to sign Cr7,bale,Modric and some other star players all to themselves just like it will be hard for Chelsea to get cr7 from Man Utd, Liverpool would rather sell Suarez to Barca than sell him to Arsenal, Man city will never allow Aguero go to Chelsea.


In other words, the EPL star players are evenly spread among all the top clubs and even some small clubs unlike it is in Spain, Only Barca and Madrid have the best players in Spain, Only Bayern has the best players in the bundesliga, they would not even stop poaching for the best talents from clubs like Dortmund , Wolfsburg , Bayer and Co.

It's never like that in the EPL.

If Madrid and Barca move to EPL today would that erase their history and stop them from attracting top players?

Why was CR7 a Man utd top player desiring a move to Madrid at a time when Man utd was richer and more successful than madrid

When Man utd was good, they had no problem getting the best players from the EPL from cantona, Yorke, Cole, Pallister, Rio Rooney, Berbatov Tevez, Fellaini, Shaw Van persie etc

SIRcumalot:

this isn't totally related to this discussion going.
but is there not usually an agreement between the decision makers before a player is signed ?.
this idea of emenalo or Woodward signing one player and Jose or LvG signing another doesn't really make sense to me.
if the said players performs badly,the blame should be for everybody.

That is the normal circumstance just like no one would absolve LvG for all the poor signings of the past 2yrs nor Moyes. But in the case of Mourinho fans, they always look to shift the blame to any other person but him

That was why I listed those bad buys made before Emenalo who should be blamed for that? I suggest we should blame Emenalos brother

Nihilist:
This is the kind of thing I dislike.

There were a few people shouting 'Bleep Emenalo', only one of them took my post personal and started calling me clown and posting pictures of bar beach.

When we clap back now, we'll start hearing stories of degrees, and certifications.

Its already pretty obvious that no sense can be made of this conversation. I though Emenalo signed Lukaku? Now it's Emenalo that sidelined Lukaku

The same once proud team that finished 1st and 2nd actually finished 1st last season, and 3rd the year before only 4 points behind 1st place.

Emenalo became TD in 2011. If we judge by the shallow logic of team achievements, then we should consider that we've won multiple FA cups, Multiple European Titles, the league Cup and the actual league during his reign.

"Guus Hiddinks points per game would have seen us finish 9th. Who do we blame for that?"

Ermmmm I don't know....how about the freaking manager?

I don't see why the TD should be blamed for underachieving players.

Mehn I won't even bother responding to you again. Enjoy Bar Beach.

Meanwhile can any non-passive aggressive Emenalo hater table their factual reasons Emenalo is behind our alarming slump this season?

I am genuinely interested in hearing them

Edit: Forgot to add my own view
Absolutely loving this chair in front of me

You are an attention seeker ninja. No point you raised hasn't been covered copiously and several times over by me.

Go and revise where all those points have been covered and stop disturbing us.

We agree with your view and expect Baba, Papy, Pato, Adrian, Mikel and all other Emenalo favourites to take the league by storm next season. Afterall he told Roman the team was good enough to win the league this season and Roman believed him. We entrust our future to Emenalo, the same ninja who has steadily stripped all spine away from Chelsea since 2011.

raumdeuter:


The part in bold is the key point. When a player is good its Mourinho, when the player is bad its Emenalo

Just like when Chelsea plays good under Mourinho - Its the Mourinhos tactics and genius
when they play good under another coach- Its because of the players desire and the discipline they learnt under Mourinho regime
When they play bad under Mourinho - Its because the players betrayed he coach or Emenalo/Roman is instigating them
When they play bad under another coach - Its because "I have been telling you this coach is terrible"

That was why I asked for who bought those players I listed who were mostly bought under Mourinho and before Emenalo. Was it Emenalo too?

There's no doubt that some players downed tools for Jose this season, most notably Costa and Hazard..and arguably Fabregas.

But that being said, how can we not approportion blame to Jose? Who continued to play Ivanovic for every team in the land to Fvck? Who decided to have a short pre-season and allow his players come back overweight and with pot belly?
Who continued to pick fights with everybody despite fines AND red cards?

Are we saying the manager should be exempt from blame if he fails to motivate his players?

Or are we saying that a manager can only succeed with the players he brought in?

Ibime:

[s]

You are an attention seeker ninja. No point you raised hasn't been covered copiously and several times over by me.

Go and revise where all those points have been covered and stop disturbing us.

We agree with your view and expect Baba, Papy, Pato, Adrian, Mikel and all other Emenalo favourites to take the league by storm next season. Afterall he told Roman the team was good enough to win the league this season and Roman believed him. We entrust our future to Emenalo, the same ninja who has steadily stripped all spine away from Chelsea since 2011. [/s]

I will not entertain your histrionics today.
I have already given you the permission to fall out.

Go back to enjoying your beach.

Can any non-passive aggressive Emenalo hater who doesn't mind being 'disturbed' table your argument jare?

raumdeuter:


Who is responsible for these signings Jarosik, Smertin, Maniche Bhoularouz, Del Horno, SWP, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sidwell, Belleti, Alex, Quaresma

The same nigga that dominated the league with them.

When people are talking about their club, you would do best to stay out, just like I cannot give you specific detail of Bayern.

For example:

Quaresma joined Jan 2009 after Jose.
Alexei Smertin was signed 2003 before Jose.
Alex was signed 2004 before Jose and loaned to PSV for 3 years (he's a good player though).

Ben Haim, Sidwell, Boulahrouz and Pizarro were all signed by Frank Arnesen in 2006 which is what made Jose to fall out with Roman first time round leading to his sack.

Same things repeating in 2015 with Baba, Papy and co.

[quote author=raumdeuter post=45932321]

If Madrid and Barca move to EPL today would that erase their history and stop them from attracting top players?

So, you think it will be easy for Chelsea to sell her best player to a loyal rival (Barca and Madrid) lets assume Chelsea allowed her best player go to a rival club in the same league o, you think, Man Utd will also allow Cr7 go to the same local rival, Man city too will say, oya o, my local rival, you can also have Aguero, Silva and Kompany, Liverpool too will sell her best player in Suarez and say, MAYBE coutinho to these two clubs too, Spurs too will allow them have Bale and then Modric too knowing fully well that, they are gonna be facing them twice a sesson every year. Man, it would never happen abeg.

Why was CR7 a Man utd top player desiring a move to Madrid at a time when Man utd was richer and more successful than madrid

Its a simple answer, obviously because Madrid is a better team, one of the two domineering teams in the whole of Spain and because it's a different league from the EPL.,btw,how was Man Utd more successful than Madrid as at the time CR7 wanted to move? Madrid that has won more than 5 UCL titles as at then.

When Man utd was good, they had no problem getting the best players from the EPL from cantona, Yorke, Cole, Pallister, Rio Rooney, Berbatov Tevez, Fellaini, Shaw Van persie etc

When Man u could attract all these players, were the able to dominate the EPL for 10 years, why can't they still keep on dominating the EPL just like Barca and Madrid have been ALWAYS dominating LaLiga, or Bayern dominating Buli?


Lastly, note that, this is the EPL, Barca, Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Man city, Man Utd are all rich clubs that would also have the TV revenues and the other bonuses evenly or almost evenly shared, not the case of Barca and Madrid alone sharing the larger part of the revenues.

Ibime:
The same nigga that dominated the league with them.

When people are talking about their club, you would do best to stay out, just like I cannot give you specific detail of Bayern.

For example:

Quaresma joined Jan 2009 after Jose.
Alexei Smertin was signed 2003 before Jose.
Alex was signed 2004 before Jose and loaned to PSV for 3 years (he's a good player though).

Ben Haim, Sidwell, Boulahrouz and Pizarro were all signed by Frank Arnesen in 2006 which is what made Jose to fall out with Roman first time round leading to his sack.

Same things repeating in 2015 with Baba, Papy and co.

This is an example of what I am saying. All the poor buys were never Mourinho buys. All the good were his.

If I ask who signed Drogba, Essien Ballack Ivanovic etc they would find a way to link it with Mourinho

tenderheart1:
So, you think it will be easy for Chelsea to sell her best player to a loyal rival (Barca and Madrid) lets assume Chelsea allowed her best player go to a rival club in the same league o, you think, Man Utd will also allow Cr7 go to the same local rival, Man city too will say, oya o, my local rival, you can also have Aguero, Silva and Kompany, Liverpool too will sell her best player in Suarez and say, MAYBE coutinho to these two clubs too, Spurs too will allow them have Bale and then Modric too knowing fully well that, they are gonna be facing them twice a sesson every year. Man, it would never happen abeg.

How did Van persie, Carrick, berbatov end up in Man Utd? How did Torres and Ashley Cole end up in Chelsea? How did Nasri, Clichy and Adebayo end up in City?

tenderheart1:
Its a simple answer, obviously because Madrid is a better team, one of the two domineering teams in the whole of Spain and because it's a different league from the EPL.,btw,how was Man Utd more successful than Madrid as at the time CR7 wanted to move? Madrid that has won more than 5 UCL titles as at then.

As at 2009 when CR7 joined Madrid, Madrid hasnt played beyond CL quarter finals for 5straight years. while Man Utd just got back from back to back CL finals which they won one. Madrid cant even dream of winning then

Currently which is the better team between Atletico Madrid with 0 CL and FC Porto with 2 CL?

tenderheart1:
When Man u could attract all these players, were the able to dominate the EPL for 10 years, why can't they still keep on dominating the EPL just like Barca and Madrid have been ALWAYS dominating LaLiga, or Bayern dominating Buli?
Lastly, note that, this is the EPL, Barca, Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Man city, Man Utd are all rich clubs that would also have the TV revenues and the other bonuses evenly or almost evenly shared, not the case of Barca and Madrid alone sharing the larger part of the revenues.

The TV money argument I have destroyed already

In 2015 Madrid earned 140M Euros
In 2015 Barca earned 140M Euros
In 2015 Chelsea earned 128M Euros
In 2015 City earned 127M Euros

Is it the 13M difference in TV money thats making the Spanish teams attact better players?

Can we also say, If Barca and madrid are in EPL they would attract richer sugar daddies who would make them spend much more

raumdeuter:


This is an example of what I am saying. All the poor buys were never Mourinho buys. All the good were his.

This is why you should stick to Bayern talk where you would have more intricate knowledge than us.

What I just told you about Boulahrouz and co is a fact which is instantly googleable, and was the reason for the infamous "Waitrose eggs" rant by Jose.

Don't let born yesterday Chelsea fan who doesn't know his own club make you take everything at face value.

Nihilist:
I still don't get the hate for Emenalo here.

Like what are you actually blaming him for? Is Emenalo the reason why the same team that finished 1st ended up almost getting relegated?

I mean the guy even offered to resign before Jose came back...

This guy brought in KDB Lukaku Schurrle etc.and Jose chased them away for Eto fils, Willian, etc.

Jose publicly courted Stones, but as we saw this season, that one too is a waste of space, and so what does that say about Jose's judgment? I personally would havr been pissed if Everton had accepted our 40 million pound bid for that overhyped product.

Jose refused to play Filipe Luis who was a damn sight better than Baba Is today.

Chased away Mata and Kept Oscar. Like for reals....

The Matic that Jose supposedly bought regressed so badly that Mikel was keeping him out the team by the end of the season.

Can any of the Emenalo haters actually state what he has done wrong?

First of all, no one is saying he is totally to blame but he is the main culprit.....

KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Van ginkel............. KDB wasn't doing well when he was sold so I can understand the failure to put a buy back clause,but Lukaku??
That time we needed to win trophies, Lukaku as our Top 9 wasn't a good idea but the guy wanted to be first choice...... Jose decided Costa was his man,a decision that was 100% on point at that time

Schurrle my arse,that dude is a fraud german with finishing.....
We can't be losing talents to lesser teams without a buyback clause and expect me not to blame the Idiot
Madrid got it on Morata and Carvajal,two big talents from their youth team

Mourinho signings are :
Costa
Fabregas
Felipe
Matic
Zouma and Cuadrado( Not sure)

Without these guys we wouldn't even make the top 4 the year we were Champions.....
Jose said we needed to strengthen to move forward because in football you can't be stagnant if you don't move forward you are moving backwards.. ..

Griezman,Witsel,Diawara,Pogba,Stones,Gaya,Ruben Neves,Marquinhos e.t.c were all his targets......
What did he get?? Hector and Djilobodji

I mean, signing Djilobodji alone is a sackable offence
The final day of the window,everyone was desperate to get someone big.....A Griezman or Pogba signing would have changed everything include the mood in the dressing room

How can you sign Djilobodji ffs?? We needed players to move us to the next level desperately and Emenalo did nothing

Put yourself in Jose's shoes.....
Bench Iva for who?? Baba?? Don't give me the ' who sold Felipe' line.....We all saw how Iva and Azpi did better than him and he asked to leave
Bench Matic for Who?? Mikel?? A Mikel that Jose clearly didn't want... The idiot was quick to negotiate the sales of KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Mata and co but couldn't sell Mikel??
Bench Hazard for who??
Bench Fabregas for Who? Ramirez??
Bench Costa for who?

These are his key guys, You will always be forced to think ' They might pick form today, they are the best I have'
José said something when we lost 4-2 at one to that foolish team in the FA cup,he said 'No you understand why I keep using the same Eleven almost every game',This was coming after he played his 2nd eleven against a championship side at home and Conceded 4 goals

We are talking about the ever no nonsense Jose,Someone that benched Casillas,Ramos and co...He did it because he had Varane and co
Are those the players you want him to Trust with his job??
If we had Diawara,Neves,Witsel,Griezman and Garay as back up we will be playing UCL footy next season

You think Jose would keep playing Iva if he had Baines or he would stick to Matic if he had Witsel or Hazard if he had Griezman

Jose said he needs a CB,they gave him fucking Djilobodji when others where signing Vidal,Turan and co....

Truth is Matic,Fab,Costa,Iva and co showed signs since Jan last year,Jose had to get us back to defensive football to get the trophy....

What is Miazga for goodness sake
Pato that Lepacious Bose is fitter than
Hector?? Troy ni
Cuadrado?? When we all knew Douglas was his choice



I can predict Emenalo's move this Summer.......

raumdeuter:


That is the normal circumstance just like no one would absolve LvG for all the poor signings of the past 2yrs nor Moyes. But in the case of Mourinho fans, they always look to shift the blame to any other person but him

That was why I listed those bad buys made before Emenalo who should be blamed for that? I suggest we should blame Emenalos brother

bigkesh:

First of all, no one is saying he is totally to blame but he is the main culprit.....

KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Van ginkel............. KDB wasn't doing well when he was sold so I can understand the failure to put a buy back clause,but Lukaku??
That time we needed to win trophies, Lukaku as our Top 9 wasn't a good idea but the guy wanted to be first choice...... Jose decided Costa was his man,a decision that was 100% on point at that time

Schurrle my arse,that dude is a fraud german with finishing.....
We can't be losing talents to lesser teams without a buyback clause and expect me not to blame the Idiot
Madrid got it on Morata and Carvajal,two big talents from their youth team

Mourinho signings are :
Costa
Fabregas
Felipe
Matic
Zouma and Cuadrado( Not sure)

Without these guys we wouldn't even make the top 4 the year we were Champions.....
Jose said we needed to strengthen to move forward because in football you can't be stagnant if you don't move forward you are moving backwards.. ..

Griezman,Witsel,Diawara,Pogba,Stones,Gaya,Ruben Neves,Marquinhos e.t.c were all his targets......
What did he get?? Hector and Djilobodji

I mean, signing Djilobodji alone is a sackable offence
The final day of the window,everyone was desperate to get someone big.....A Griezman or Pogba signing would have changed everything include the mood in the dressing room

How can you sign Djilobodji ffs?? We needed players to move us to the next level desperately and Emenalo did nothing

Put yourself in Jose's shoes.....
Bench Iva for who?? Baba?? Don't give me the ' who sold Felipe' line.....We all saw how Iva and Azpi did better than him and he asked to leave
Bench Matic for Who?? Mikel?? A Mikel that Jose clearly didn't want... The idiot was quick to negotiate the sales of KDB,Lukaku,Schurrle, Mata and co but couldn't sell Mikel??
Bench Hazard for who??
Bench Fabregas for Who? Ramirez??
Bench Costa for who?

These are his key guys, You will always be forced to think ' They might pick form today, they are the best I have'
José said something when we lost 4-2 at one to that foolish team in the FA cup,he said 'No you understand why I keep using the same Eleven almost every game',This was coming after he played his 2nd eleven against a championship side at home and Conceded 4 goals

We are talking about the ever no nonsense Jose,Someone that benched Casillas,Ramos and co...He did it because he had Varane and co
Are those the players you want him to Trust with his job??
If we had Diawara,Neves,Witsel,Griezman and Garay as back up we will be playing UCL footy next season

You think Jose would keep playing Iva if he had Baines or he would stick to Matic if he had Witsel or Hazard if he had Griezman

Jose said he needs a CB,they gave him fucking Djilobodji when others where signing Vidal,Turan and co....

Truth is Matic,Fab,Costa,Iva and co showed signs since Jan last year,Jose had to get us back to defensive football to get the trophy....

What is Miazga for goodness sake
Pato that Lepacious Bose is fitter than
Hector?? Troy ni
Cuadrado?? When we all knew Douglas was his choice



I can predict Emenalo's move this Summer.......

And you know Costa Fabregas et all are Mourinho buys how?
I need facts please and not speculation.

In a season when Dannys Simpson and Drinkwater won the league, I can't believe 'signing top players' is still an argument

Spy360:

It's not Chelsea really, its Mourinho.

And United are next, the guy is like a marauding demon. Jose the prety serpent. Like mammy water, very attractive but deadly.

may I ask if you're a chelsea fan

Bigkesh, please ignore niggas who don't know their own club


When Fabregas said Jose missed his son's football match to come and meet him in London to convince him to sign, he did not know.

When Jose said "I did not sign a striker in 2013 because I knew that Diego Costa will be available in 2014 for a set price", he was not following.

There are those who have depth of understanding and there are opinionated niggas with very shallow knowledge who've done zero research and take everything at face value.

Imagine someone asking you for proof that Costa and Fab4 are JM signings? Is that a serious Chelsea fan? When we are busy following our club maybe he is following models on Instagram, yet wants to argue indepth details of Emenalos signings with us? Before this season, such shallow person couldn't tell you where Emenalo sits in Chelsea organisational structure.

No time to educate niggas. They should talk less and follow the happenings at their club more.

Bigkesh nailed it.
Signing papy djilobdji is a sackeable offence.
I use to think ibiime hate emenalo until that guy signed pato when we have dead wood like remy and falcao in our team.
Athletico madrid technical director get sense.
Emebnalo should learn from that guy.

Ibime:
[s]Bigkesh, please ignore niggas who don't know their own club


When Fabregas said Jose missed his son's football match to come and meet him in London to convince him to sign, he did not know.

When Jose said "I did not sign a striker in 2013 because I knew that Diego Costa will be available in 2014 for a set price", he was not following.

There are those who have depth of understanding and there are opinionated niggas with very shallow knowledge who've done zero research and take everything at face value.

Imagine someone asking you for proof that Costa and Fab4 are JM signings? Is that a serious Chelsea fan? When we are busy following our club maybe he is following models on Instagram, yet wants to argue indepth details of Emenalos signings with us? Before this season, such shallow person couldn't tell you where Emenalo sits in Chelsea organisational structure.

No time to educate niggas. They should talk less and follow the happenings at their club more[/s].

Oga please move on.

You've said you don't want to be disturbed. Why are you now butting into my conversation with bigkesh?

We know you don't have thr time to educate niggas.

Please swallow your aggression and enjoy the beach.

Bigkesh, please when you have the time provide the proof that Costa and Fabregas are Jose signings.

This is quite interesting because if we can prove that Jose had the chance to sign the players that he wanted, then we would have to ask exactly what Emenalo is blamed for.

Also is signing Papy that much of a sackable offence? That's a massive judgement call to make considering we only ever saw him in action for 20 minutes.

Dongorgon5:
Bigkesh nailed it.
Signing papy djilobdji is a sackeable offence.
I use to think ibiime hate emenalo until that guy signed pato when we have dead wood like remy and falcao in our team.
Athletico madrid technical director get sense.
Emebnalo should learn from that guy.

Thats because Andrea Berta (Atletico TD) works with his manager, not against him.

Meanwhile when you have insecure niggas like Emenalo who happened on their job by chance, you will find them playing power games with the manager.

From backstabbing Ray Wilkins and spying on Ancelotti

to

Arguing with RDM, choosing every single one of RDMS players to buy or sell, arguing with RDM to always play Torres and ignoring RDM when RDM asked for £10m for Wanyama for his midfield

to

Arguing with Benitez when Benitez told the board he needs a central midfielder

to

Signing plethora of wingers Jose was not interested in, telling the board Jose does not need new players, then getting Roman to release funds for his own signings (Baba, Papy, Adrian and Kenedy), then keeping Lollichon as a spy when Jose and Courtois wanted him out.

His is a history of power games and politics.

Flashback to the beginning of Emenalos backstabbing days. . . .2010

The first good manager he helped chase out of the club was Ancelotti.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8150102/Chelsea-changes-have-left-Carlo-Ancelotti-brooding-over-future-as-tensions-mount-at-Stamford-Bridge.html


Carlo Ancelotti is understood to believe that the sacking of Ray Wilkins as his assistant and appointment of the little-known but influential Michael Emenalo has, perhaps fatally, undermined his authority at Chelsea.

The 51-year-old Italian is, according to sources, considering his future at the club, as revealed by The Daily Telegraph on Saturday, because of his anger over Wilkins’ sudden departure.

Ancelotti, who concedes that he does not have “total control of the team”, is concerned that he has let Wilkins down and that his own standing in world football has been damaged and his reputation reduced by recent events.

Sources said last night that the man who brought an unprecedented Premier League and FA Cup Double to Chelsea last season believes that “something is broke” and it might not be possible to repair the damage.

Emenalo is close to the club’s demanding owner, Roman Abramovich and the elevation of the 45-year-old Nigerian — also revealed by The Daily Telegraph – has parallels with Avram Grant’s arrival at Stamford Bridge which eventually led to Jose Mourinho leaving the club. Emenalo was brought to Chelsea by Grant also.

One source said last night that it was hard to envisage Ancelotti remaining at Chelsea after this season and there was even the possibility of him leaving before then, although that seems unlikely. His contract is due to expire in the summer of 2012 although talks over an extension would not take place until after the end of this campaign, which has become derailed with three defeats in the past four league matches.

Ancelotti had no say in the decision to sack Wilkins and has made clear his unhappiness. Having claimed on Friday that Emenalo would not be allowed to coach the first team and was not Wilkins’ direct replacement, Ancelotti conceded after the defeat by Birmingham City on Saturday: “He’s doing the same job as Ray Wilkins.”

When told that such a state of affairs would never have happened to Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United, Ancelotti said tellingly: “You have to compare me with Ferguson? It’s a different position because Ferguson has total control of the team. I am just technical direction. Full stop.”

Interestingly Emenalo sat next to Ancelotti on the bench at St Andrew’s — the manager did not actually want his new assistant anywhere near him — and the body language between the pair betrayed the awkwardness of the situation.

Abramovich and key decision-makers at Chelsea may have thought differently, however, and Emenalo, who has been the 'opposition scout’, has been groomed for promotion for some time. Indeed, there had been some suggestions that he might even have been earmarked to replace Frank Arnesen, the club’s technical director, whose contract expires at the end of this season and who is considering his own future.

Ancelotti didn't hire Wilkins in the first place. He met him there.

So it's not like Ancelotti had the power to choose his own assistant in the first place.

He got.on well with Ray who actually speaks Italian. He was obviously upset that his friend got sacked, but let's not pretend that he was stripped of any sort of power in this incident.

Nihilist:
Ancelotti didn't hire Wilkins in the first place. He met him there.

So it's not like Ancelotti had the power to choose his own assistant in the first place.

He got.on well with Ray who actually speaks Italian. He was obviously upset that his friend got sacked, but let's not pretend that he was stripped of any sort of power in this incident.

Yes, it's alright to sack assistant and impose a spy on the manager.

Perfect way to run a club.

The manager is just a zombie to treat how you want. Sack his coaches, buy and sell his players, no problem at all.

When this decision was taken, Chelsea was running away with the league. Ended up not even challenging for the title. Straight from the Emenalo book of football.

No wonder they are denying Conte his fitness coach and 2 assistants.

Some of us do follow our club and have encyclopedic memory of every event unlike some opinionated dullards who don't know their nyash from their elbow. You cannot just wake up in 2016 with no background knowledge and launder Emenalos image for us. Coming soon. . . . how Emenalo stabbed Di Matteo after he won the UCL.

Nihilist:
Ancelotti didn't hire Wilkins in the first place. He met him there.

So it's not like Ancelotti had the power to choose his own assistant in the first place.

He got.on well with Ray who actually speaks Italian. He was obviously upset that his friend got sacked, but let's not pretend that he was stripped of any sort of power in this incident.

I totally disagree with the bolded part above.

Sacking an assistant without the consent of the head, directly or indirectly indicates the head is powerless. And, could also mean one getting stripped off certain rights or powers.

Griffon:
Jose can have Mikel for free, we can give him Remy if he likes too, just let him stay off Matic.

Yeah the Serbian had a stinker of a season, but who didn't? On his day, the ninja is twice the player Mikel has ever been.

Make we try learn from the mistakes of the past.

Griffon, pass me that ace of spades in your profile pic.

Meanwhile wake me up when one single player nominates Mikel for the below. What he couldn't smell in 10 seasons, Matic did in his first full season.