After the recent UK exit from the EU something struck . The feeling of loneliness, isolation, being unwanted etc.

I have being in the for 16yrs now and have only had gid experience's. I have integrated well into the UK society while still holding on to naija lifestyle.

But after this OUT vote I have started to question my future and that of my young kids in the uk.

If you offer me everything in the world and ask me where would I want to live I would say AMERICA. I went to check it out last summer (went to LA and atlanta) and loved it , maybe it was the holiday mood and I have lots of family there.

But am really flirting wit the idea of leaving the UK before things get worse, America is my choice but their gun laws scares the hell out of me.

If I don't make the move then I will live my not knowing Wat could have happened if we did move.

But if we do and it doesn't work out then we wud ve wasted our time, money and effort.

So confused

hmmm. let's wait for the elders to comment.

bebe2:
After the recent UK exit from the EU something struck . The feeling of loneliness, isolation, being unwanted etc.
I have being in the for 16yrs now and have only had gid experience's. I have integrated well into the UK society while still holding on to naija lifestyle.
But after this OUT vote I have started to question my future and that of my young kids in the uk.
If you offer me everything in the world and ask me where would I want to live I would say AMERICA. I went to check it out last summer (went to LA and atlanta) and loved it , maybe it was the holiday mood and I have lots of family there.
But am really flirting wit the idea of leaving the UK before things get worse, America is my choice but their gun laws scares the hell out of me.
If I don't make the move then I will live my not knowing Wat could have happened if we did move.
But if we do and it doesn't work out then we wud ve wasted our time, money and effort.
So confused

When Mr Trump is elected president you will not want to go to America, even if you were allowed in!

I will advise you to move to Canada

worry359:


When Mr Trump is elected president you will not want to go to America, even if you were allowed in!

Yea, I forgot to address that.

That will really be a deal breaker.

Naija here we come

worry359:


When Mr Trump is elected president you will not want to go to America, even if you were allowed in!

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

Amoto94:
I will advise you to move to Canada

The weather is the issue, I have S.A.D

Can't stand bad weather.

bebe2:

The weather is the issue, I have S.A.D
Can't stand bad weather.

Australia is another country.

princey83:

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

Am just fed up with.

I have never liked the UK , their road, houses , youth aspiration all seem below USA or Canada.

I love the pple tho, funny lot.

Amoto94:
Australia is another country.

Ahhh dats the end of the world oo
I still get mama oo

It always looks greener on the other side. Don't only use you, heart use your head also.

marylandcakes:
It always looks greener on the other side. Don't only use you, heart use your head also.

My head says a massive NO,

And my oga says after here na Naija straight. Lol

It nor even about greener pasture, am not a want it all kind of person.

Maybe it the Brexit thing dat is making me feel like this.

Make I go my two owambe parties tmrw and I will bounce back

It will not be long before other countries want to exit the EU.
Shengen travel free zone will cease to exist.
UK trade will soon bounce back and the UK will still be the best place.

worry359:
It will not be long before other countries want to exit the EU.
Shengen travel free zone will cease to exist
UK trade will soon bounce back and the UK will still be the best place.

Does UK contribute to the development of a schengen treat when they are not even part of it? How them (UK) leaving EU will have the negative impact on the treat rather than the Union, when will have Non-EU countries like Norway, Iceland and Swiss in the schengen agreement. Please kindly elaborate.

princey83:

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

That's broad. It depends what her profession is. I know many UK people who migrated to Canada and are doing well. She'll have to plan out things for sure.

maternal:


That's broad. It depends what her profession is. I know many UK people who migrated to Canada and are doing well. She'll have to plan out things for sure.

Am not academically minded, although I have a degree in public services from Manchester metropolitan university. Just can't stand giving my time out to be controlled all day. Am too much of a busy body.

Am a business woman, I run a business here that frees my time to also need a full time mum. Check my signature.

I just need a plan B in the UK starts to regress.

princey83:

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

I live in Manchester since u schooled here how is Canada different? Social life? Housing? Quality of life in general.

Haven't u heard Canada is best the country in the world !! Make your way down here I bet u would be glad u did ...

bebe2:


Ahhh dats the end of the world oo
I still get mama oo

Haba. Some of us too get mama naa

princey83:

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

How can a registered Nurse migrate and work in Canada? Got a sister who is interested.

SirVintageCock:
How can a registered Nurse migrate and work in Canada? Got a sister who is interested.

She can apply as a skilled worker. I'm sure she'll have to re-do some tests though. But it's well worth it.

bebe2:


I live in Manchester since u schooled here how is Canada different? Social life? Housing? Quality of life in general.

canada is very different from the UK.
What i can think off right now. And based on two provinces i have lived in(alberta and sask).

cons

The banking system is different-the banks here are all about charges,and more charges. Nothing like free banking except you go strictly online i.e no branch banking. Internet and telephone banking still has a long way to go.

Cross province/town trains like the virgin bullet trains are non existent. You either fly(quite pricy as we have only two major domestic airlines) or you drive.

Essential commodities and stuff not as cheap as the UK.
e.g you would pay alot to get clothing with quality as half as good as the ones sold in primark. Things like toothoaste cost like half price in the US. same goes for houses and cars.
The price of some detached houses here would buy a very big house in the US or an house at a posh neighnourhood in the UK.

Postal system: Canada is big, so express post via canada mail could take as long as 5 days and pricey. Then you would appreciate royal mail next day delivery.
Therefore ebay is not popular here. what you have here is kijiji(belongs to ebay) where you have to most times meet the seller in person. Amazon is okay but not as excellent as the UK too.

No off license shops. There are specialty shops, due to strict regulations.

Everything is heavily regulated here, federal government makes rules, provincial government makes rules and unions have their own rules too. i had to change my drivers license within 3 month when i changed province and had to do mot all over again. If i was in an healthcare profession, i would need to write more exams to change my license.

weather is very crazy. Uk weather is a learner when compared with the weather here. Also cold expect -30's in winter and schools hardly close.

Social life not as fantastic as the UK. Pubs close at 12 and transport services too.

Social housing. I havent been on this so i have no idea.

mobile monthly plan is expensive

Customer services not has good as the UK. Canadians still have some american attitude in them..

quality of post secondary education not as good as the UK.

Football is not common. Your kids would have to learn hockey and baseball.

Changing provinces is difficult. So many bottlenecks. Each province is like a different country with different rules, tax, social and health plan policy e.t.c

So many times husband and wife have to work far away from each other. There are many families where wife lives in ontario and husband works in a different province and vice versa.

Time spent in traveling across provinces. It takes over 4 hours to fly say from ontario to alberta and driving takes days.

Towns cities are far from each other.
A lot of towns are sparsely populated that you would sometimes wonder why cant they just merge with bigger towns and become one as this would be cost effective. Nigerian doctors are usually found in small towns and villages. Where i currently work is one of the 5 biggest cities in sask(with a population of just 15,000). Out of the 20 doctors in towns. The nigerian doctors are like 12 or so. There are work colleagues that live one hour drive away in towns of less than 1000 people.lol.

Not many Nigerians in Canada. Nigerians just recently started relicating here except for a few that have been here earlier.

pros.
Pay is much better than the UK, as good as the US. i guess the good pay neutralizes some of the expensive stuffs up there.

credit is cheap. most bank would give you a credit card with a limit of $1000 once you open an account with them without prior credit history. You could also get a mortgage within one year on arrival.

Everything is big. cars, houses, parks e.t.c you name it. lol

people are friendlier. You wont be told to go back to your country. i lost count of how many times i was told to go back to where i came from in the Uk.lol

close to the US. i know guys that cross the border just to shop in the US.

Liberal government in power(equivalent to labour in the UK) but then again, the provincial government could either be conservative.

There is personal space. Lots of it.

Populace is more educated than the UK. canadians like book. there is a pathway from trades to diploma to degree.

People are laid back and this has been brought into the work place as well.

British way of spelling and fewer slangs, but u still have different words like sweater vs jumper, trainers vs runners, chips vs crisp, ketchup vs tomato sauce e.t.c

crime rate is low. Some shooting here and there but no knife crimes. Police carry guns and people have guns for hunting wildlife too, yet crime rate is quite low.

Singular accent unlike the uk. where accents change even when you cross from manchester to salford.

Food taste better.

The women are prettier.

In my opinion quality of life is better than the UK. The air is cleaner. Lots of fresh water. lots of places to visit for sight seeing most are breath-taking too.
You would first hate it here if you move like most nigerians that moved from the UK due to the fact that the UK is highly developed infrastructure-wise, but once you spend 2 years or more, then you start falling in love with the country.

cant think of anymore now.

Child benefit and health care is at par with the UK.

These are for my experiences in alberta and sask.

SirVintageCock:
How can a registered Nurse migrate and work in Canada? Got a sister who is interested.

https://www.nairaland.com/2624318/canadian-express-entry-federal-skilled/140

There are some nurses on that thread.

princey83:

canada is very different from the UK.
What i can think off right now. And based on two provinces i have lived in(alberta and sask).

cons

The banking system is different-the banks here are all about charges,and more charges. Nothing like free banking except you go strictly online i.e no branch banking. Internet and telephone banking still has a long way to go.

Cross province/town trains like the virgin bullet trains are non existent. You either fly(quite pricy as we have only two major domestic airlines) or you drive.

Essential commodities and stuff not as cheap as the UK.
e.g you would pay alot to get clothing with quality as half as good as the ones sold in primark. Things like toothoaste cost like half price in the US. same goes for houses and cars.
The price of some detached houses here would buy a very big house in the US or an house at a posh neighnourhood in the UK.

Postal system: Canada is big, so express post via canada mail could take as long as 5 days and pricey. Then you would appreciate royal mail next day delivery.
Therefore ebay is not popular here. what you have here is kijiji(belongs to ebay) where you have to most times meet the seller in person. Amazon is okay but not as excellent as the UK too.

No off license shops. There are specialty shops, due to strict regulations.

Everything is heavily regulated here, federal government makes rules, provincial government makes rules and unions have their own rules too. i had to change my drivers license within 3 month when i changed province and had to do mot all over again. If i was in an healthcare profession, i would need to write more exams to change my license.

weather is very crazy. Uk weather is a learner when compared with the weather here. Also cold expect -30's in winter and schools hardly close.

Social life not as fantastic as the UK. Pubs close at 12 and transport services too.

Social housing. I havent been on this so i have no idea.

mobile monthly plan is expensive

Customer services not has good as the UK. Canadians still have some american attitude in them..

quality of post secondary education not as good as the UK.

Football is not common. Your kids would have to learn hockey and baseball.

Changing provinces is difficult. So many bottlenecks. Each province is like a different country with different rules, tax, social and health plan policy e.t.c

So many times husband and wife have to work far away from each other. There are many families where wife lives in ontario and husband works in a different province and vice versa.

Time spent in traveling across provinces. It takes over 4 hours to fly say from ontario to alberta and driving takes days.

Towns cities are far from each other.
A lot of towns are sparsely populated that you would sometimes wonder why cant they just merge with bigger towns and become one as this would be cost effective. Nigerian doctors are usually found in small towns and villages. Where i currently work is one of the 5 biggest cities in sask(with a population of just 15,000). Out of the 20 doctors in towns. The nigerian doctors are like 12 or so. There are work colleagues that live one hour drive away in towns of less than 1000 people.lol.

Not many Nigerians in Canada. Nigerians just recently started relicating here except for a few that have been here earlier.

pros.
Pay is much better than the UK, as good as the US. i guess the good pay neutralizes some of the expensive stuffs up there.

credit is cheap. most bank would give you a credit card with a limit of $1000 once you open an account with them without prior credit history. You could also get a mortgage within one year on arrival.

Everything is big. cars, houses, parks e.t.c you name it. lol

people are friendlier. You wont be told to go back to your country. i lost count of how many times i was told to go back to where i came from in the Uk.lol

close to the US. i know guys that cross the border just to shop in the US.

Liberal government in power(equivalent to labour in the UK) but then again, the provincial government could either be conservative.

There is personal space. Lots of it.

Populace is more educated than the UK. canadians like book. there is a pathway from trades to diploma to degree.

People are laid back and this has been brought into the work place as well.

British way of spelling and fewer slangs, but u still have different words like sweater vs jumper, trainers vs runners, chips vs crisp, ketchup vs tomato sauce e.t.c

crime rate is low. Some shooting here and there but no knife crimes. Police carry guns and people have guns for hunting wildlife too, yet crime rate is quite low.

Singular accent unlike the uk. where accents change even when you cross from manchester to salford.

Food taste better.

The women are prettier.

In my opinion quality of life is better than the UK. The air is cleaner. Lots of fresh water. lots of places to visit for sight seeing most are breath-taking too.
You would first hate it here if you move like most nigerians that moved from the UK due to the fact that the UK is highly developed infrastructure-wise, but once you spend 2 years or more, then you start falling in love with the country.

cant think of anymore now.

Child benefit and health care is at par with the UK.

These are for my experiences in alberta and sask.

My brother

That weather thing is a deal breaker for me ooo.

If I get up and I dont see sun then am unsettled for the rest of the day.

But, 5th biggest city has 15,000 pple?

Tnk u very much

U ve been most helpfull.

bebe2:


My brother

That weather thing is a deal breaker for me ooo.

If I get up and I dont see sun then am unsettled for the rest of the day.

But, 5th biggest city has 15,000 pple?

Tnk u very much


U ve been most helpfull.

princey's experience is based on two provinces. And by the look of it, I think he/she has only been in Canada for a few years. Just to clear some misconceptions. To begin with I can name 6 cities off my head where the metro population is above 1 million. The weather is not that bad. It's usually warm from April to the end of September. In fact in the last 2 months all we've been getting is 25-30 C degree weather. The winters can be brutal depending which province you live in. In Vancouver for example it barley snows and you can have mild 5-8 degree winters. It can go below 0 a few times. Whereas in Sask it's cold as hell. Last Christmas in Ontario it was like 15 degree. Though it was a fluke. It all depends really.

Families or couples don't usually work in different provinces. Such is not abnormal in Alberta or Sask because that's where the oil sector is located. So the husband may fly out to the oil fields for 2 weeks then return. But someone who lives in Toronto for example wouldn't do such. The cost of living in Canada vs US doesn't tell the whole story. While goods may be cheaper in the US, usually the salaries in those states are lower. Plus in the US they don't have Universal healthcare and they usually pay high premiums for healthcare insurance, or pay out of their pockets. They also don't have a lot of the social benefits we get in Canada. From the outside it may look like the cost of living is cheaper there, but once you do the math it really isn't. Hence why house may be a bit cheaper there. That being said, it's really only the south where things are dirt cheap. In NYC for example, houses are twice the cost than in Canada. Lastly while their's now an influx of Nigerians coming, Nigerians have been here for decades. Though the history of Nigerians here is not as rich as in the UK or US.

Hope this helps.

maternal:


princey's experience is based on two provinces. And by the look of it, I think he/she has only been in Canada for a few years. Just to clear some misconceptions. To begin with I can name 6 cities off my head where the metro population is above 1 million. The weather is not that bad. It's usually warm from April to the end of September. In fact in the last 2 months all we've been getting is 25-30 C degree weather. The winters can be brutal depending which province you live in. In Vancouver for example it barley snows and you can have mild 5-8 degree winters. It can go below 0 a few times. Whereas in Sask it's cold as hell. Last Christmas in Ontario it was like 15 degree. Though it was a fluke. It all depends really.

Families or couples don't usually work in different provinces. Such is not abnormal in Alberta or Sask because that's where the oil sector is located. So the husband may fly out to the oil fields for 2 weeks then return. But someone who lives in Toronto for example wouldn't do such. The cost of living in Canada vs US doesn't tell the whole story. While goods may be cheaper in the US, usually the salaries in those states are lower. Plus in the US they don't have Universal healthcare and they usually pay high premiums for healthcare insurance, or pay out of their pockets. They also don't have a lot of the social benefits we get in Canada. From the outside it may look like the cost of living is cheaper there, but once you do the math it really isn't. Hence why house may be a bit cheaper there. That being said, it's really only the south where things are dirt cheap. In NYC for example, houses are twice the cost than in Canada. Lastly while their's now an influx of Nigerians coming, Nigerians have been here for decades. Though the history of Nigerians here is not as rich as in the UK or US.

Hope this helps.

Yes , nice to get another perspective on things.

Wen we lived in London, I used to travel 55mins on the bus to get to work and my husband would travel 2hrs on train and bus to get to his job.

Then we moved to Manchester and my journey to work became a 10mins drive and hubby's was about 20mins bus drive.

I don't understand this couple working in different province thing. Won't that take up all the family time? As in by the time u get home it's time for the kids to go to bed.

bebe2:


Yes , nice to get another perspective on things.

Wen we lived in London, I used to travel 55mins on the bus to get to work and my husband would travel 2hrs on train and bus to get to his job.

Then we moved to Manchester and my journey to work became a 10mins drive and hubby's was about 20mins bus drive.

I don't understand this couple working in different province thing. Won't that take up all the family time? As in by the time u get home it's time for the kids to go to bed.

I do it. I work for 2 weeks straight, then I get 2 weeks off. You get use to it.

bebe2:


Yes , nice to get another perspective on things.

Wen we lived in London, I used to travel 55mins on the bus to get to work and my husband would travel 2hrs on train and bus to get to his job.

Then we moved to Manchester and my journey to work became a 10mins drive and hubby's was about 20mins bus drive.

I don't understand this couple working in different province thing. Won't that take up all the family time? As in by the time u get home it's time for the kids to go to bed.

My sister...na common thing here o. My cousin's husband just relocated to ontario for work while wife works and live with two daughters in calgary. My senior colleauge's husband from uni in uk works in victoria bc while wife lives in calgary also with 2 daughters- they moved here from aussie. I know of another couple doing the bc vs calgary thing. Finally, a big bros of mine also moved from edinburg works in calgary while wife and their five kids live in toronto. my wife lives in calgary too and i work in sask. i am not even in the oil industry but electrical industry. If i was in the oil industry, i may be lucky to get flyin\flyout but this has also reduced due to the price of oil. I think this is common because canada has a population of only 35million or thereabout and there are only much jobs you can have at a specific location. the jobs are spreadout just as the cities and towns are spreadout.
e.g in manitoba, the biggest city is winnipeg, the next biggest city is brandon which is just around 50,000 people.
But its not that bad sha. Alot of couples still live and work in the same city. This is what we all desire.

But Nigerians have started making sacrifeces as we are family oriented. The sacrifice sometimes include one person slowing down on his or her own carrier so that they can live together as family. in your own case, you are self employed so that wouldnt be a problem for you anyway.

Getting around the uk is easy..there are many couples living and working in different towns too, but the trains are connected amongst the town hence movement is easy and rules dont change say when you cross from lancaster to greater manchester.

Maternal is right bout the weather in provinces thing. I work in sask and just last mid may. i was on a field close to regina and the temperature suddenly dropped very low. we had to hurry off the site as we didnt have a cold weather gear on us.

maternal:


I do it. I work for 2 weeks straight, then I get 2 weeks off. You get use to it.

Dats not bad, imagine if u have to come home every evening and leave in the morning.

princey83:

lol.
To be honest, if i were you..i would just stay in the UK.
America and Canada are not so rosy as people make them look. It takes time to settle in North America. I am talking about 3-5 years. Why do you wanna leave all your achievements in the UK and start all over in North America? To start with, your academic qualifications would mean nothing in both Canada and the US hence you would have to go back to school or pass very difficult licensing exams.
The children adjusting to a new environment is another issue you would have to look at.
i believe the UK would stabilize. Everything woyld mormalize soon.

Note: I schooled in Manchester, and currently live in Canada. I have experienced both worlds.

Is Canada a country ??

RichYoungNigger:
The only country in the world is USA.
Others are local governments, and it's funny how people keep mentioning Canada as a country, Nigeria is better than Canada.

Again if Trump becomes the president, nothing will change, Americans don't give a fucck about who their president is
Britain is still in the European Union, it will take about 4 years before they exit from the European Union.

USA is the only country in the whole wide world.

Do you listen to news at all? Presidents of the European Union have ordered the immediate implementation of brexit. It will no longer take two years as earlier speculated.