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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 12:24pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:
I am extremely concerned and curious to why no one has been able to refute things I said on this thread. All I see are angry people indirectly admitting that the noah's story is bullcrap but they are still willing to accept it.

Just the way they accepted to bath with salt water during the ebola outbreak
ayaf died *hardmirror mirror you are really doing a good work here,always include me in your mentions abeg ,no one has been able to refute you because they have been flogged by your koboko which is your ability to think and reason ,ride on brother

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by promise10: 12:26pm On Jun 28, 2016
Ahmed99:
so surprised seeing ma Xtain brothers and sister's defending God and d bible....if God created the heaven and the earth and he inspire d bible den don't worry he will surely protect it....hard mirrow, d more I read ur post,d more I get supernatural elevated seeing DAT God could do things which can never be explained by science or d human mind....tnxs 4d inspiration always....insult are allowed buh I will live as if there z God and die to know dere isn't than living as if there is no God only to find out there z one#peace be with u
You may be a muslim, but I support you 100%!!!

Dat guy is sooooo SICK in thinking that he can figure out something that happened miraculously with sciences. It just strikes my mind!!

I just wonder, I would also like him to question more miracles because the more he does the more I SEE HOW BIG GOD IS.

Miracles are NOT natural or scientific, they SUPERnatural. So a natural man CANNOT explain SUPERnatural thing through a natural means. It really suck.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by kumulus(m): 12:38pm On Jun 28, 2016
promise10:

That's why it is called a MIRACLE!!!

If it vex you that your *little* sense cannot fathom how it happen then GO TO HELL. PERIOD!

Miracle does not answer the question of "HOW?" That's why it is SUPERnatural!

Until the "HOW" question of is answered, then it is NO MORE A MIRACLE.


Nice one!!!.....same with 'sleight of hand '...once the trick is known, it's no longer MAGICAL......hehehehe grin

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by kumulus(m): 12:44pm On Jun 28, 2016
promise10:

You may be a muslim, but I support you 100%!!!

Dat guy is sooooo SICK in thinking that he can figure out something that happened miraculously with sciences. It just strikes my mind!!

I just wonder, I would also like him to question more miracles because the more he does the more I SEE HOW BIG GOD IS.

Miracles are NOT natural or scientific, they SUPERnatural. So a natural man CANNOT explain SUPERnatural thing through a natural means. It really suck.



I hope these would be an eye opener for all ( Muslim, Christians, Bhuddist et al) that being religious is not the important thing but being spiritual. "He who worship the father do so in SPIRIT and TRUTH"

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by promise10: 12:46pm On Jun 28, 2016
kumulus:



Nice one!!!.....same with 'sleight of hand '...once the trick is known, it's no longer MAGICAL......hehehehe grin
Of course!

So it is left for you to find out the trick Jesus used in feeding 5000 men with 5 loaves and 2 fishes and miraculously left 12 more remaining . Without trying to say that he didn't.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by kumulus(m): 12:52pm On Jun 28, 2016
promise10:

Of course!

So it is left for you to find out the trick Jesus used in feeding 5000 men with 5 loaves and 2 fishes and miraculously left 12 more remaining . Without trying to say that he didn't.


I don't have to find out no trick man.....if I ever go hungry, God got me!!! wink
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:

Keep deceiving yourself. From your looks I doubt you are even up to 20. Or do you think I am referring to your nairaland profile picture?
so you think that phone number is my personal effects, smh. Have got time for better things than battling with a lad. Keep deceiving yourself and your gullible folks. Like I said before YOU CAN'T WIN! you are just wasting away, use your time for something more profitable.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by cloudgoddess(f): 1:22pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:
THE ARK!
HOW BIG WAS IT?
Could it take 20 million animals of which only about 2 million where insects?

The dimensions of the ark can be found in Genesis 6: 14-15

It wAs 300cubits long = 450ft

50 cubits wide = 75 ft

And 30 cubits high = 45 ft

Floor space is gotten by multiplying LENGTH X Width
= 450 X 75 = 33,750 sq foot of space

Wait a minute!

There was even more space than that! The ark was divided into 3 levels. This will increase floor space
So that is 33,750sq ft X 3 = 101,250 sq foot of space. For animals to stand.

Please how will 20Million animals stand within this small space?

That is 0.005sq ft to each animal!

Ok ok let me help God a little, the insects can hang on the walls all through the trip
So what is the area of the walls?

Side walls will be length X height =450 x 45
= 20,250 sq ft
There will be 2 sides so that is 20,250 X 2

= 40,500 sq ft


Then we have the front and back walls
Which is Width X Height = 75 X 45
3,375 sq ft

Times 2 (for front and back)

3,375 X 2 = 6,750sq foot

So let use see the surface area we can make use of in total
That is

101,250 + 40,500 + 6,750 = 148,500 sq foot of surface area including the walls for the insects to hang on

Ohhhhhhh no!

Noah must have used the roofs too!
Ok the area of each roof was 33,750 and there were 3 roofs
So that is another 101,250 sq ft extra!


HURRAY!!! We are getting more space!


So total area we can use including the 3 floors, 4 walls, and 3 roofs (ignoring the thickness of the timber Noah used and how much space the timber used for bracing the ark must have taken)
We have TOTAL SPACE of 249,750 sq ft

This space divided by 20 million occupants

Each animal gets 0.013 sq ft of space



HOW SMALL IS THIS?

This is a mere 3.9 mm by 3.9 mm! For each animal even after using all the space in the ark including the walls and roof!

That space is even too small for a common house fly.

So the ark was more packed than a can of sardines!
I laughed, HARD grin

This is a great thread, keep it up!

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by malvisguy212: 2:36pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:

You are excused. cheesy
Go and do all the research you can
I am very busy now, their are many things you guys don't understand in the scripture, in the scripture, when the bible is talking about people, sometimes it refer to as earth, take for example in Genesis 18:25 it say not the Judge of all [kol] the earth [erets]deal justly? " (Genesis 18:25) (God judges the
people of the earth, not the earth itself)

The hebrew word translated "erets" is the same word found in the flood account, this word HAS no connection with geographically location, if am lying, please do research.

Let us take another example:

Now the earth was CORRUPT in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence.
( Genesis 6:11)

And God looked on the earth, and behold, it
was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their
way upon the earth. ( Genesis 6:12)

How can the earth be corrupt if it geographical location ? The word earth hear is referring to people of the earth, and it was the same hebrew word erets. This is something you guys don't understand, I wish we can see face to face, I promise, I will clear your doubt and you will know that you are making a VERY big mistake, but hear, on nairaland, I cannot draw a 2HD on a 3HD screen. Thank you.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 3:00pm On Jun 28, 2016
malvisguy212:
I am very busy now, their are many things you guys don't understand in the scripture, in the scripture, when the bible is talking about people, sometimes it refer to as earth, take for example in Genesis 18:25 it say not the Judge of all [kol] the earth [erets]deal justly? " (Genesis 18:25) (God judges the
people of the earth, not the earth itself)

The hebrew word translated "erets" is the same word found in the flood account, this word HAS no connection with geographically location, if am lying, please do research.

Let us take another example:

Now the earth was CORRUPT in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence.
( Genesis 6:11)

And God looked on the earth, and behold, it
was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their
way upon the earth. ( Genesis 6:12)

How can the earth be corrupt if it geographical location ? The word earth hear is referring to people of the earth, and it was the same hebrew word erets. This is something you guys don't understand, I wish we can see face to face, I promise, I will clear your doubt and you will know that you are making a VERY big mistake, but hear, on nairaland, I cannot draw a 2HD on a 3HD screen. Thank you.
You are just making your predicament worse.

According to what you wrote up there, so it is the people that were flooded. The people were so flooded that all mountains under the heavens were submerged in the flood. That even the ark was lifted and made to rest on to of mount Ararat.

This is not the jokes section please. Don't insult our intellect here.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ademasta(m): 3:26pm On Jun 28, 2016
Hmmmm
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Nobody: 3:28pm On Jun 28, 2016
grin
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 3:36pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:

You are just making your predicament worse.

According to what you wrote up there, so it is the people that were flooded. The people were so flooded that all mountains under the heavens were submerged in the flood. That even the ark was lifted and made to rest on to of mount Ararat.


This is not the jokes section please. Don't insult our intellect here.




I'M PROBABLY JUST GON LAUGH MYSELF TO DEATH TODAY.

MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THE MODS MOVE A SPECIFIC COMMENT FROM ANY THREAD TO ANOTHER THREAD IN THE JOKES SECTION, MAYBE.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 3:45pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:
I am extremely concerned and curious to why no one has been able to refute things I said on this thread. All I see are angry people indirectly admitting that the noah's story is bullcrap but they are still willing to accept it.

Just the way they accepted to bath with salt water during the ebola outbreak
Because you run away and ignore the truth, why else? I'll help you later,perhaps you will not abscond again.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by cyril10(m): 4:29pm On Jun 28, 2016
Only foolish people will read and throw their bible away because they lack the truth about God and his word just as you are on your way to destruction except you retrace your steps.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 4:45pm On Jun 28, 2016
cyril10:
Only foolish people will read and throw their bible away because they lack the truth about God and his word just as you are on your way to destruction except you retrace your steps.
Is that all you can contribute? Go tell that to village kids

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 4:46pm On Jun 28, 2016
stephenmorris:
ayaf died *hardmirror mirror you are really doing a good work here,always include me in your mentions abeg ,no one has been able to refute you because they have been flogged by your koboko which is your ability to think and reason ,ride on brother
Ok sir.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Scholar8200(m): 4:47pm On Jun 28, 2016
cyril10:
Only foolish people will read and throw their bible away because they lack the truth about God and his word just as you are on your way to destruction except you retrace your steps.
Indeed, others have done worse and in studying for an answer we loved our Bibles more! I think it's the usual conceitedness and manic arrogance that characterizes the average theophobe was what informed that claim!
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by DesChyko: 4:51pm On Jun 28, 2016
Although the tone of this write-up has belligerent tendencies, the author is making valid points. There are logical arguments here but I'll pass on that. How do you fill a full cup? That's the vanity in tampering with an unwilling learner's belief. It's an exercise in futility. A wise man once told me:
It is not every challenge that must be risen to. The wisdom is in knowing which.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 4:57pm On Jun 28, 2016
Scholar8200:
Indeed, others have done worse and in studying for an answer we loved our Bibles more! I think it's the usual conceitedness and manic arrogance that characterizes the average theophobe was what informed that claim!
What meaningful contribution have you made so far? You talk of studying that made you love your bible more. Can you tell us the sturdies you made on Noah and the flood?
I am sure you never even for a moment realize the story was absurd. How would you? When you whole heartedly believe you are reading the word of god just as muslims believe mohammed rode on a flying horse and some muslims believe he ascended to heaven like Jesus on the dome of the rock in Jerusalem.

At the end only common sense stands the test of time.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:04pm On Jun 28, 2016
Continuation
[size=20pt]A STORY WRITTEN BY AN IGNORANT MIND AND LOOPHOLES TRANSLATED AS MIRACLES: What a Real miracle would have look like .[/size]

When you read this story from Genesis 6,7 and 8 you will see that there was a very clear intention to make the story scientific and realistic.
Eg it took months for the water to dry up. The author even made mention of wind blowing over the water.

The author also attempted to make use see Noah using a clever technique to know when the water had receded.

So
What would have been a miracle?

1. God did not need to start stressing Noah and cramming over 20 million animals inside a wooden crate.
- a real miracle would be for God to recreate all the animals with his spoken words as he did in the beginning.

2. Chapter 8 says God remembered Noah and the animals so he sent a powerful wind to blow over the water.
It took about 3 months for the water to dry up. Noah even had to be sending birds out to check if the water was dried.
- it would have been easy to just ask the waters to disappear.

3. God was angry with humans, but he flooded the whole earth killing all living things.
Since the aim was to kill people why not just kill people
Why bother an old man to be building an ark that even 500 people cannot complete in a year ?

The authors did not bother to tell us how the animals fed in the ark - miracle!

What was happening to their waste? - miracle!

How no animal was trampled. - miracle!

How that quantity of animals fitted into the small space - miracle!

how the dove could pluck a leaf and take it back to Noah, when all noah had to do was look out side the window to see if the water had subsided cheesy - miracle!

This is a classic case of helping the lier tell the lie.
You see obvious inconsistencies BUT you call them miracles.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by malvisguy212: 5:26pm On Jun 28, 2016
HardMirror:

You are just making your predicament worse.

According to what you wrote up there, so it is the people that were flooded. The people were so flooded that all mountains under the heavens were submerged in the flood. That even the ark was lifted and made to rest on to of mount Ararat.

This is not the jokes section please. Don't insult our intellect here.
The Hebrew word for mountain in that verse is translated "Har" har is refer as "hill" or "hills" hill country.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by uckennety(m): 5:32pm On Jun 28, 2016
I don't want to talk but am forced to talk am not a religious fanatic but in d book of genesis you'll read about how the earth was void and water filled the surface of the earth,you'll read how God separated land and sea wch means that land was in 1 mass and sea was in other!ok let's fast forward to your geography for those that ever enter class you were taught that several million years ago,the earth land mass was in one mass form nothing like continents or country until the BBT concurred that is called BIG BANG THEORY!!!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang That is how kangaroos ended up in australia after it occurred so it didn't jump From middle east to australia!and can you imagine wen d earth is in one mass Form an earthquake in America will affect aFrica!well try to Fix the map together you'll see that all continents Fit into africa and that's where it all happened not israel!the 1st human archaeological remains was dugged out of kenya!or Tanzania please correct me if am wrong but it's one of the two!so it's 100% possible that the world was consumed by water.
Finally the issue about animal species well funny but I hope you all know abt genetics mutation and the ability to adapt to change in other to survive. I won't emphasize much but we know that it's only Noah and his family entered the ark but today how many species (races)of man do we have today?so asking about the number of species is totally irrelevant!
Trust me I trust the bible on this one.....

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:39pm On Jun 28, 2016
malvisguy212:
The Hebrew word for mountain in that verse is translated "Har" har is refer as "hill" or "hills" hill country.
Is mount Ararat a Hill? Or you have forgotten that the waters covered that mountain?

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 5:42pm On Jun 28, 2016
cyril10:
Only foolish people will read and throw their bible away because they lack the truth about God and his word just as you are on your way to destruction except you retrace your steps.




REMINDS ME OF MY FAVORITE QUOTE OF ALL TIME FROM THE BIBLE, "ONLY A FOOL SAYS THERE'S NO GOD".


WITH THE WAY CHRISTIANS CLEARLY INDICATE "FOOL" AND "FOOLISHNESS" ALMOST EVERY TIME,
I BELIEVE BOTH WORDS ORIGINATED FROM CHRISTIANITY!

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:44pm On Jun 28, 2016
uckennety:
you were taught that several million years ago,the earth land mass was in one mass form nothing like continents or country until the BBT concurred that is called BIG BANG THEORY!!!!
Hahahahahahaha
cheesy jesu kristi!!!!
This alone tells me how ignorant you are.

So the earth was in one mass until the bigbang theory. grin

No wonder you believe the bible if that is your understanding of the big bang.

So the earth was one mass then big bang happened. Lol

Do you even know what you are talking about?
How can the earth exist before the big bang?

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 5:46pm On Jun 28, 2016
uckennety:
I don't want to talk but am forced to talk am a religious fanatic but in d book of genesis you'll read about how the earth was void and water filled the surface of the earth,you'll read how God separated land and sea wch means that land was in 1 mass and sea was in other!ok let's fast forward to your geography for those that ever enter class you were taught that several million years ago,the earth land mass was in one mass form nothing like continents or country until the BBT concurred that is called BIG BANG THEORY!!!! That is how kangaroos ended up in australia after it occurred so it didn't jump From middle east to australia!and can you imagine wen d earth is in one mass Form an earthquake in America will affect aFrica!well try to Fix the map together you'll see that all continents Fit into africa and that's where it all happened not israel!the 1st human archaeological remains was dugged out of kenya!or Tanzania please correct me if am wrong but it's one of the two!so it's 100% possible that the world was consumed by water.
Finally the issue about animal species well funny but I hope you all know abt genetics mutation and the ability to adapt to change in other to survive. I won't emphasize much but we know that it's only Noah and his family entered the ark but today how many species of man do we have today?so asking about the number of species is totally irrelevant!
Trust me I trust the bible on this one.....


THIS "FORCED TO TALK" MISTER MAN HAS REALLY IMPRESSED ME WITH HIS LACK OF REASONING!

HE JUST COMBINED SCIENCE AND RELIGION TO PROOF THAT THE BIBLE IS AUTHENTIC cheesy


WHERE ARE YOU FROM? grin

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:46pm On Jun 28, 2016
CAPSLOCKED:





REMINDS ME OF MY FAVORITE QUOTE OF ALL TIME FROM THE BIBLE, "ONLY A FOOL SAYS THERE'S NO GOD".


WITH THE WAY CHRISTIANS CLEARLY INDICATE "FOOL" AND "FOOLISHNESS" ALMOST EVERY TIME,
I BELIEVE BOTH WORDS ORIGINATED FROM CHRISTIANITY!
Hehehehehe

And yet Jesus says Just calling a fellow human Fool will land the caller in hell. grin

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:47pm On Jun 28, 2016
CAPSLOCKED:



THIS "FORCED TO TALK" MISTER MAN HAS REALLY IMPRESSED ME WITH HIS LACK OF REASONING!

HE JUST COMBINED SCIENCE AND RELIGION TO PROOF THAT THE BIBLE IS AUTHENTIC cheesy


WHERE ARE YOU FROM? grin
So you noticed it too? Lol

I swear christians are a funny bunch
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by CAPSLOCKED: 5:50pm On Jun 28, 2016
uckennety:
only Noah and his family entered the ark but today how many species of man do we have today?so asking about the number of species is totally irrelevant!



cheesy
ARE THERE MORE THAN ONE SPECIE OF OF MAN TODAY?

BRO!

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:52pm On Jun 28, 2016
uckennety:

Finally the issue about animal species well funny but I hope you all know abt genetics mutation and the ability to adapt to change in other to survive. I won't emphasize much but we know that it's only Noah and his family entered the ark but today how many species of man do we have today?so asking about the number of species is totally irrelevant!
Trust me I trust the bible on this one.....
You made my evening with this your funny post. So within 5000 years humans mutated to create all the races and sub-races in existence today?
Wonderful.
And yet you don't believe in evolution that takes millions of years.

So 5000 years is enough to make our genes so unique that it is impossible for you to see a caucasian give birth to a negro.
Wonderful!

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:53pm On Jun 28, 2016
CAPSLOCKED:




cheesy
ARE THERE MORE THAN ONE SPECIE OF OF MAN TODAY?

BRO!
It's like you and I notice the same things o. I am sure he is not an homo sapien. Lol

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