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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Ximonak: 10:15pm On Aug 12, 2016
Onegai:
Schoolfees is now madness. We were told N280,000 per term for creche in Lekki 1 and everyone assured us that it was quite affordable. The cheapest I've seen was N230,000 per term. Schoolfees has more than quadrupled up (someone's fees came up from N600,000 to over N1m in a letter at the end of term with no prior warning). I've been told even the mainland is not being spared. Parents of children who are heading to Primary school are now opting to relocate outside the country to be able to afford quality, reasonably-prices schools (Father stays here, Mother moves with kids or both of them move depending on if their jobs are no longer able to afford a sensible lifestyle). People are selling off cars to raise schoolfees for the upcoming term or moving their kids to grandparents or relatives outside Lagos state for Secondary school. So many cannot afford a regular school anymore.

I feel if one parent is not working, get educational resources online for British curriculum, hit a bookstore and prep your child through PreKinder. Because why on earth should one pay N600,000 per annum to learn how to write 1,2,3 and A,B,C? Organise playdates for kids. I've met some mums who did that and their kids turned out great. And one supermum whose kids became superstars is now coaching other kids.
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That was exactly what two of the kids parents I do coach as side hustle did. Their school fees was approximately 2m for the year and you must pay all before you resume(different kids but same class).
Their parents opt for USA schools because they are citizens by birth.
When I asked they said it was far far cheaper, comfortable and we know we can't compete with USA academically and job opportunities is better there

Me just shake head and gave myself hope that it would be better in nigeria when I want to marry, if not my wife will give birth in either Canada or USA... I don't want my kids inheriting debts(Nigeria) that they knew not

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by RichLizzy: 4:06pm On Aug 13, 2016
Please I still need an answer to this. Kindly help.

RichLizzy:
Hello House,

kindly advise which of these schools have the best standard in terms of academics: Kayrot, Lordsgate or artville. I just moved close to Mayfair gardens but the school that is close to me's price is so alarming. (green spring). Pls I need a suggestion as soon as possible so that I would't makes the wrong choice. Kindly help. I have tried using school compass but it didn't work for me. Schools will resume early next month and I need to make a choice as soon as possible. Thanks in anticipation.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by blank(f): 7:52pm On Aug 13, 2016
Onegai:
. Parents of children who are heading to Primary school are now opting to relocate outside the country to be able to afford quality, reasonably-prices schools (Father stays here, Mother moves with kids or both of them move depending on if their jobs are no longer able to afford a sensible lifestyle).

I am trying to figure out how this makes financial sense. How will it work? Someone that cannot afford 1m school fees will now be able to afford dollars for US school? A school that charges that much should ordinarily have high standards. They will to reduce the standard maybe send to a public school there. Good public schools are usually in high brow areas. How would you afford the forex to maintain the lifestyle or is there a variable I am missing?

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by blank(f): 7:55pm On Aug 13, 2016
RichLizzy:
Please I still need an answer to this. Kindly help.


I have no idea. Never heard of the schools neither do I know schools in that area.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by RichLizzy: 8:42pm On Aug 13, 2016
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I have no idea. Never heard of the schools neither do I know schools in that area. [/quoteThanjs blank. Island people in s house kindly help.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Onegai(f): 8:44pm On Aug 13, 2016
blank:


I am trying to figure out how this makes financial sense. How will it work? Someone that cannot afford 1m school fees will now be able to afford dollars for US school? A school that charges that much should ordinarily have high standards. They will to reduce the standard maybe send to a public school there. Good public schools are usually in high brow areas. How would you afford the forex to maintain the lifestyle or is there a variable I am missing?

Yes, there is. Citizenship. If one had their child abroad (like a number of middle class parents are doing) in a country which confers citizenship, that child returns back and takes its place as a citizen. Example, when graduates are applying to the U.S. for Masters, a Nigerian graduate must write TOEFL (Test of English). A dual-citizenship holder from the exact same Nigerian university will not write it. Because the assumption is, you speak English. Some of these parents relocating are going to Canada on a skilled visa program (and getting in easily because of their skillset) to take advantage of their good public education system.

Have you actually met some kids from those schools? I see them daily and they're very polished and certainly better taught than the average school. But they are at the same level as their counterpart in free, paid-for-by-taxes public school in a decent area. That's how poor Nigerian education is.

I know the U.S. system and you don't always have to be in a highbrow area to access a good school. Most middle class surburbs will have a good school and parents invested in keeping their standards up. It's their inner-city (poorer) areas that the schools have a metal detector to enter.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cotmag(m): 9:49pm On Aug 13, 2016
Try Ebenezery Heights Int'l Schools, Soji Olagunju str.,off Alpha Beach Road, Lekki.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by MothersTouch: 7:54pm On Aug 15, 2016
She says the children are citizens. Most schools in the USA are free for citizens.
blank:


I am trying to figure out how this makes financial sense. How will it work? Someone that cannot afford 1m school fees will now be able to afford dollars for US school? A school that charges that much should ordinarily have high standards. They will to reduce the standard maybe send to a public school there. Good public schools are usually in high brow areas. How would you afford the forex to maintain the lifestyle or is there a variable I am missing?
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by blank(f): 8:13pm On Aug 15, 2016
MothersTouch:
She says the children are citizens. Most schools in the USA are free for citizens.

I get that. Just trying to do the maths. Relocating means you would take out a mortgage as it won't make sense to rent. You would have to pay for a car and other living expenses all in forex. I guess the extra gain that they are gaining an American education is the jara.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Onegai(f): 8:53pm On Aug 15, 2016
blank:


I get that. Just trying to do the maths. Relocating means you would take out a mortgage as it won't make sense to rent. You would have to pay for a car and other living expenses all in forex. I guess the extra gain that they are gaining an American education is the jara.

I don't want to explain much here, but there are some perks to owning a house in the U.S. if you play your cards right. A lot of people in my circle would rather prefer to buy a home outside Nigeria than in Nigeria. The benefits are more. Most of these people relocating are looking at cost of living. For some, it costs 3 times as much to sustain the same lifestyle here as in the U.S. Just your energy bill alone in Nigeria is enough to make you want to move out again, talkless of expensive healthcare (still not the best), exorbitant schoolfees and the hassles of day-to-day living. Lagos is probably one of the most expensive cities to live in. Someone's diesel bill is now N340,000 monthly. Any money she's making in Nigeria is going towards living expenses and schoolfees, with absolutely no savings. So what's the point staying here, paying so much just to have at least 22 hours of light, paying so much to educate your child reasonably well (not go to Oxford o) and being unable to retire anytime in the next 20 years? She doesn't even have a flashy lifestyle, and it is still that expensive to live and eat healthy, fresh food and put on an a.c. all night. And if you say "cut down your lifestyle", Himself asked me "what am I working for and suffering for, if I cannot even enjoy it? What's the point of this madness if I cannot even sleep all night with light?".

Imagine all the stress you want through today. Now imagine the money paid to you for that stress went all on paying schoolfees and buying lunch for that child for one day and you have to do the same tomorrow. Now imagine if you could get paid half, get 50% less stress and pay nothing again for schoolfees (because they took their half as taxes already).

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by blank(f): 10:31pm On Aug 15, 2016
I see. I now understand. Don't necessarily agree but I understand.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by nikkygal(f): 9:47am On Aug 16, 2016
Onegai:


I don't want to explain much here, but there are some perks to owning a house in the U.S. if you play your cards right. A lot of people in my circle would rather prefer to buy a home outside Nigeria than in Nigeria. The benefits are more. Most of these people relocating are looking at cost of living. For some, it costs 3 times as much to sustain the same lifestyle here as in the U.S. Just your energy bill alone in Nigeria is enough to make you want to move out again, talkless of expensive healthcare (still not the best), exorbitant schoolfees and the hassles of day-to-day living. Lagos is probably one of the most expensive cities to live in. Someone's diesel bill is now N340,000 monthly. Any money she's making in Nigeria is going towards living expenses and schoolfees, with absolutely no savings. So what's the point staying here, paying so much just to have at least 22 hours of light, paying so much to educate your child reasonably well (not go to Oxford o) and being unable to retire anytime in the next 20 years? She doesn't even have a flashy lifestyle, and it is still that expensive to live and eat healthy, fresh food and put on an a.c. all night. And if you say "cut down your lifestyle", Himself asked me "what am I working for and suffering for, if I cannot even enjoy it? What's the point of this madness if I cannot even sleep all night with light?".

Imagine all the stress you want through today. Now imagine the money paid to you for that stress went all on paying schoolfees and buying lunch for that child for one day and you have to do the same tomorrow. Now imagine if you could get paid half, get 50% less stress and pay nothing again for schoolfees (because they took their half as taxes already).

Valid points you've raised here that I mostly agree with and makes a lot of sense. Infact issues around the cost of living in Lagos, school fees, power etc is a nightmare these days and how much stress one even has to go through to even make the money is another wahala.

However, blank is also making a salient point which is about the cost of maintaining a family abroad, considering the fact that the husband who is the main earner will be in Naija & being paid in Naira. Therefore, he will still be constantly under pressure to earn enough to sustain his family overseas and let's face it, this can be a whole lot!

Mortgage for an average 3-bed condo in a good neighbourhood is about $2500 (south) and that's almost 900k monthly excluding other sundry household expenses - utilities, feeding, miscellaneous etc...So we're looking at an average of about almost $4k monthly to maintain an overseas family...That's about N1.4mln. What of the husband in Nigeria? He has his own monthly overhead too - fuel, car, feeding, parents,siblings etc. God help them if the hubby is also still renting in Naija, that will be double rent...as he might be paying between 500k-N1mln for his small accommodation.

In effect, the hubby should be earning at least N2mln monthly to be able to comfortably afford and sustain his family unit. How many people earn up to that in today's economy? And even if you do, I haven't factored in savings or making investments oh! Does that mean you won't have a back-up for the rainy day? So you'll be caught with living from pay-check to pay check....What if you lose your juicy job? Howdo you sustain this lifestyle?

In summary, relocating your family is a good plan considering the access to education, healthcare and other countless benefits but it takes a really strong earner in Nigeria's economy of today to make that move. As it is a very expensive venture and will so requires a lot of planning and frugality to achieve.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Onegai(f): 10:36am On Aug 16, 2016
nikkygal:


Valid points you've raised here that I mostly agree with and makes a lot of sense. Infact issues around the cost of living in Lagos, school fees, power etc is a nightmare these days and how much stress one even has to go through to even make the money is another wahala.

However, blank is also making a salient point which is about the cost of maintaining a family abroad, considering the fact that the husband who is the main earner will be in Naija & being paid in Naira. Therefore, he will still be constantly under pressure to earn enough to sustain his family overseas and let's face it, this can be a whole lot!

Mortgage for an average 3-bed condo in a good neighbourhood is about $2500 (south) and that's almost 900k monthly excluding other sundry household expenses - utilities, feeding, miscellaneous etc...So we're looking at an average of about almost $4k monthly to maintain an overseas family...That's about N1.4mln. What of the husband in Nigeria? He has his own monthly overhead too - fuel, car, feeding, parents,siblings etc. God help them if the hubby is also still renting in Naija, that will be double rent...as he might be paying between 500k-N1mln for his small accommodation.

In effect, the hubby should be earning at least N2mln monthly to be able to comfortably afford and sustain his family unit. How many people earn up to that in today's economy? And even if you do, I haven't factored in savings or making investments oh! Does that mean you won't have a back-up for the rainy day? So you'll be caught with living from pay-check to pay check....What if you lose your juicy job? Howdo you sustain this lifestyle?

In summary, relocating your family is a good plan considering the access to education, healthcare and other countless benefits but it takes a really strong earner in Nigeria's economy of today to make that move. As it is a very expensive venture and will so requires a lot of planning and frugality to achieve.


Everything you've said is very true. The people taking this option are not people who have no other options. I don't expect someone to complain of N150,000 per term schoolfees and want to relocate. Let's look at a family in 1004:

Average rental fee for a 3 bedroom is about N3.5mil per annum, excluding service charge and electricity (which has just been hiked. So they're paying over N4mil per annum. Transportation (using a Toyota Camry) is N30,000 monthly (that's a family using one car and no schoolruns and work within VI). Feeding costs are rising steadily but let's average about N60,000 monthly (it's more but I want to lowball). Now, every single school around 1004 is expensive, you won't find a creche less than N250,000 per term. Primary school starts from N1.2mil per term. There are no cheaper options unless you want to put your child in one of the Jakande schools around. Imagine having 3 kids in primary school, that's N3.6mil per annum. Food will rise to N95,000 (all cooking at home and driving to the mainland to shop cheaply, burning more fuel). We didn't factor in Healthcare: the first bill for immunization we got was N51,000 (not a fancy hospital o). Sure, you could go to LG to immunize but I would only trust trust few LGAs to freeze and administer immunizations and Govt doesn't cover the expensive ones like Rotavirus (against stomach infections) and Pneumococcal. Now, you can say "move to the mainland, work on the island". But only your food bill will go down, your transportation cost will rise (5 hours in traffic is the average). Education may be cheaper but expect N150,000 per term for primary school (and hope its a decent school). Healthcare will stay the same. Your energy bill will inflate (especially now when you can wake up and there is fuel scarcity because no dollar to import fuel). Worse, you will never see your family: I have 2 friends who, may as well relocate to a different state because they leave home by 5am and get home by 10.30pm. They are weekend Fathers (kids only see them during the weekend). And you will still have no savings: everytime family comes to visit, they are stunned by how expensive Lagos is. They leave their homes with N40,000 daily and come back that night having spent it all.

Some people are actually moving their families out of Lagos because it is cheaper to live alone but then the uncertainty of safety comes into play.

Those sending their families abroad are living frugally in Nigeria (one bedroom apartment close to work, small car) and send their earnings abroad. They are not encumbered by supporting family members in Nigeria, max it is one member (not the numerous dependents). Those completely relocating are skilled workers (imagine heading to Canada with a Ph.D) who know that in 2 years' time, they will be settled. The average 30-something Nigerian who stayed after his/her Masters most likely has a mortgage and is paying off his house. His peers in Nigeria won't dream of home-owning in their 30s unless they work for a multinational or have family backup or are blogging and saving every penny without eating. Because Lagos real estate is grossly overpriced and an average smallish home in some random untarred area of Lekki is N48mil if you are very lucky. Even Surulere is not cheap. And if you want to build on the mainland, the uncertainties are great: a colleague of mine has a building project stuck at a particular stage because the omonile fees for each level has risen above his pocket. Now imagine if he loses his job and he still has all those costs and no govt subsidised education, no affordable marketplace healthcare covering your children till 18 years of age. I tried applying for NHIS, it takes 6 months and covers a minimum.

It's just too much uncertainty. If you are abroad, you can plan your life reasonably well. In Nigeria, well, tomatoes can hit 200% inflation between now and tomorrow and bag of rice will be N20,000, bus fare will start as N100 in the morning and end as N250 that night and VIO will catch you somewhere, tell you you have broken a law and make you cough up N20,000 (and you won't even understand what law you broke).

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Onegai(f): 10:53am On Aug 16, 2016
Nikkygal, where down south is a mortgage that high? Houston is an affordable place to live (I'm assuming that's where you are because a lot of Nigerians are there or is it ATL?). Unless you go and buy pass your pocket. Maybe California but I'm surprised the South is expensive. That's the first I've heard of it.

Besides, you're paying to buy a house. In Nigeria, you're paying rent. And you dare not take a loan: 25% interest rate from the bank.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by nikkygal(f): 2:21pm On Aug 16, 2016
Onegai:


Everything you've said is very true. The people taking this option are not people who have no other options. I don't expect someone to complain of N150,000 per term schoolfees and want to relocate. Let's look at a family in 1004:


You raise very good points but you need to understand that living in 1004 and its environs is already considered highbrow and so all other social amenities in that axis will be equally expensive. I heard peeps in 1004 pay an average of about 100-120k monthly on power lipsrsealed I have relatively stable light in my area, say about 15-18hrs but even at that, i spend average of 10k on nepa & about 15-20k on gen. monthly. This is still fair on my pocket as the accountant in me won't allow me pay for those highly priced serviced apartments.

Having said that, living in the mainland doesn't necessarily mean you'll spend average of 5hrs daily in traffic. Those living in the yaba, surulere, gbagada, anthony & marlyland axis do not spend more than an average of 1-2hrs daily on commuting to the Island. Though this might still be something, the associated savings could be quite significant as you can still find very good schools in the 250/300k range as well as affordable services too - healthcare, markets, domestics etc.

I agree sha that those who make this relocation decision are people who have options and are quite comfortable...Also I know that most people who move their families abroad, move into very small accommodation, use 1 car etc just to save cost. But the catch is they still want to live close to the office, still drive 'ok' cars, so they pay a premium for that decision. As a matter of fact, 1 in at least 6/7 of my colleagues have moved their families abroad - for people that work in the Oil Industry, it is almost a given in the circle. I have about 5-6 friends that moved to canada in the last 3months....and yea, it's all on the skilled visa thing and quite a nos of us qualify too, but making that decision is a choice.

I only wanted you to take cognisance of the implication of such decision and its sustainability. Hoenstly, living in naija these days is just too expensive and the cheaper option many have taken is to move their families out of Lagos which has resulted in huge cost savings for them. Good schools in Ibadan, Abeokuta, Benin etc are fairly priced and with good amenities and a higher quality of life compared to Lagos which is full of so much hustle.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 2:59pm On Aug 16, 2016
Wow is it that bad embarassed

I know life isn't easy anywhere though but for someone earning in Naira (that practically has no value), how do they sort all these millions in responsibilities? That Lagos sef. Never liked it. Too bustly and exhausting. It's like the sun is even hotter there. Lol.

@nikkygal, my house is a 4 bedroom. Great neighborhood. Golf neighborhood. New. We even bought it before it was completely built.
Ballpark figure of 1,800 - 2,000 grand a month. give or take. And it's in the surbs of one of the most expensive cities in US as of now. Meaning you can even get way cheaper if you spread out to other places or choose less square feet.

Anyone who's moving like that should buy within their pockets. Not buying million dollar houses that will drain them financially.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by nikkygal(f): 3:21pm On Aug 16, 2016
Onegai:
Nikkygal, where down south is a mortgage that high? Houston is an affordable place to live (I'm assuming that's where you are because a lot of Nigerians are there or is it ATL?). Unless you go and buy pass your pocket. Maybe California but I'm surprised the South is expensive. That's the first I've heard of it.

Besides, you're paying to buy a house. In Nigeria, you're paying rent. And you dare not take a loan: 25% interest rate from the bank.

Houston is largely affordable...however, there are expensive places in the city too which can be quite high-end (Galleria axis, bunker hill etc). But for the sake of arguement, let's even say the mortgage is $1500 monthly. That still brings your monthly spend to about $3k - about N1mln monthly which is actually lowball, becuase having kids in daycare/kindergaten is plenty $$$, home maintenace fees, county taxes etc.

Anyway sha, I'm enjoying the discourse and I guess ultimately, we'll all have to choose what works well for us and our peculiar circumstances.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by nikkygal(f): 3:25pm On Aug 16, 2016
cococandy:
Wow is it that bad embarassed

I know life isn't easy anywhere though but for someone earning in Naira (that practically has no value), how do they sort all these millions in responsibilities? That Lagos sef. Never liked it. Too bustly and exhausting. It's like the sun is even hotter there. Lol.

@nikkygal, my house is a 4 bedroom. Great neighborhood. Golf neighborhood. New. We even bought it before it was completely built.
Ballpark figure of 1,800 - 2,000 grand a month. give or take. And it's in the surbs of one of the most expensive cities in US as of now. Meaning you can even get way cheaper if you spread out to other places or choose less square feet.

Anyone who's moving like that should buy within their pockets. Not buying million dollar houses that will drain them financially.

Okay...Thanks for the heads-up. I've reviewed my numbers downwards for practicability.

Lagos life is tough sha....just too much wahala! I agree that anyone making the move should actually buy something moderate and pocket-friendly.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Onegai(f): 3:45pm On Aug 16, 2016
Nikkygal, abeg find accomodation for me around your area. 15-18 hours of light is not a yam o! grin I truly didn't want a service flat but everytime there is fuel scarcity I'm glad I'm not adding one more worry to my head. I think there would be some significant savings but Nigeria just has an awful way of draining your pocket so you won't really see it and Himself believes I'm pennywise, pound foolish (exhausting myself trying to be cheap). I think that is his point: you work so hard, you stress so much and yet nothing tangible to show for it, what's the point?

(Why do all oil workers have this "I must maintain" mentality?? All those big jeeps for nothing).

Why not drop some saving tips? I like accountants and economists (I don't understand it but I appreciate it smiley)

Btw, try for Canada. I don't see Nigeria making headway soon because they are not yet doing anything to make us a manufacturing industry. Agriculture can make us money to feed the nation but once every one moves into it, profit will slow down (and we tend to move en masse into an industry that is "reigning"wink and besides, so many other countries have taken over production of our cash crops. We need to export. No-one is serious about that. I hate to say this, but biko get that foreign kpalli if the offer is available.

Cococandy, It drives me crazy when I see that on the right path, you can start paying towards a house in your 20s abroad and your mates in Nigeria, it is by the grace of God to do so. That is my one regret relocating back to Nigeria. Sure, there are bills but at least it's your home, your car.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 4:19pm On Aug 16, 2016
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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Nobody: 6:48pm On Aug 16, 2016
I just got back from Nigeria and for the first time ever I really saw first hand what people are really going through

You see its not just money
Its stress too
No Light....Stress
You Put on Gen.....still Stress cos you are thinking do I have enough fuel? and then looking to see if light is back as well as making sure that no one accidentally puts on the wrong appliance.
Light comes.....more Stress....cos you are stressing on waking up even in the night to iron, put on the water heaters and do other things
........Then at 5am the Mosques and churches & hens start their own noise too
When do people get to sleep and relax?

Traffic nko? I spent 2.5 hours from Volks to tradefair the other week....why? bad road at barracks. A major road for that matter.
Angry people nko?
crazy people nko?
People that just want to fight because they are under stress


You leave home in white and come back home exhausted in shades of grey and brown even in A/c and you are not even the one driving and aching all over from all the shaking about and swerving due to bad roads
Some relatives houses we could not even get to for bad road & traffic.
My car was off the road twice to get the exhaust fixed

You see all these things just shorten life and damage health
Too much wahala everywhere
I learnt a long time ago that money cant take care of everything, so even if it means downsizing and getting out of Lagos, then if anyone has the opportunity to please do it....

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Nobody: 6:54pm On Aug 16, 2016
cococandy:


True that. I do count myself lucky sometimes. Because na so I for carry 'portfolio' dey find job up and down now with no hopes in sight. As I've no connections and not from wealth. Those are the only people in Nigeria who are not worried. Every middle/working class person is worried about their future.

We are not doing anything for our youth at all. The future seems bleak when at 30 you're still unemployed with no hopes. the older generation don't want to make way for the younger ones. It's unfair.

DH is mid thirties and he complains that his colleagues who are same age with him here are on their way to retirement. That if he was here earlier he'd be there with them. Planning retirement in your forties, living off a good pension with house/s and cars all paid off and kids done with school must be a good prospect. I see his grievances. (I still tell him to count his blessings though.)

But these are Benefits of having your life already set by your early twenties and working in a stable secure job environment. Which youth in his mid thirties in Nigeria is thinking of retirement in 10yrs? When they are still reducing their age on paper so that they can go for that bank interview that requires maximum age of 26.

What they have done to us is not fair.

When all these middle age Nigerian adults talk about how youth of nowadays are this and that I just look at them and wonder how they can't see they they ruined things for us. No foundation for us to build on. No social amenities for us to fall back on. They came, took only for themselves and trampled on what's left. Such that we can't rely on what the older generation built for us. We have to struggle to build for ourselves from the scratch all the way up.


The only consolation for me is that even the looters will suffer for it in one way or the other
Unless they dont have any single family member or loved one who lives in Nigeria
The rich cry too and they will surely reap what they sow.

Its very painful when they steal so much they dont even know what to do with all the money so they just abandon huge projects here and there
Yet they cant give back to society
Very selfish and wicked people
I was in VGC for a few days and was amazed at the number of empty properties just lying fallow there
Many are for let or lease too
what a big waste
Yet there are kids whose parents cant afford to pay school fees but they will never help them
They are the ones who even owe their staff the most
Some people have very hot places in hell being reserved for them

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 7:01pm On Aug 16, 2016
tearoses:


The only consolation for me is that even the looters will suffer for it in one way or the other
Unless they dont have any single family member or loved one who lives in Nigeria
The rich cry too and they will surely reap what they sow.

Its very painful when they steal so much they dont even know what to do with all the money so they just abandon huge projects here and there
Yet they cant give back to society
Very selfish and wicked people
I was in VGC for a few days and was amazed at the number of empty properties just lying fallow there
Many are for let or lease too
what a big waste
Yet there are kids whose parents cant afford to pay school fees but they will never help them
They are the ones who even owe their staff the most
Some people have very hot places in hell being reserved for them
at the right hand of the devil himself

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 7:13pm On Aug 16, 2016
@tearoses I've always known I can't live in Lagos. No how. The few times that I visited it was just too stressful for me. Way too stressful. Although I did my nursery/primary schooling there but that was different because the adults get the stress of taking care of you as a kid but as an adult you have to be extra patient and resilient to go through that hustle and bustle everyday all year.

Imagine if you're lower working class, don't have a car and can't afford to take that 10 thousand naira (maybe more now) taxi everyday to and from the island if that's where you work. How do you survive that public transport wahala everyday? I tried it once and got dizzy from drivers driving off before you even alight from the vehicle. Thank god I didn't get injured. It's just too fast paced and everyone acts like they are angry.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by EfemenaXY: 9:01pm On Aug 16, 2016
This thread apart from being an eye opener, is such an interesting read with knowledgeable contributors.

Na wa for Lagos hustle - playground for the super rich.

Pls you lot should include the UK too. What's the mindset of Nigerians wanting to / actually relocating to the UK to cut costs?

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by yormieoj: 9:53pm On Aug 16, 2016
log on to www.schools.compass.com.ng You'll see list of school profiles, from the tools by your right hand side, narrow it down by selecting your budget range, go further down to select Lagos, then Ajah/S.tedo/Eleko, and/or 'Lekki/Ikoyi/Vi' (in your own case). You'll see profile of schools that match your criteria. You'll see list and pictures of facilities, activities, clubs etc as entered by the schools owners themselves which makes the result more accurate than google results.

Furthermore. you can read reviews from fellow parents, download admission forms of schools of your interest, contact the school owners by completing the enqiury form and best of all, You can compare your selected schools by with compare button. It we place them side by side (with prices) in tabular form for you to see clearly the difference and make informed decision. It is the largest ORGANIC collection of schools in Nigeria. www.schoolscompass.com.ng
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by thorpido(m): 10:44pm On Aug 16, 2016
cococandy:
Wow is it that bad embarassed

I know life isn't easy anywhere though but for someone earning in Naira (that practically has no value), how do they sort all these millions in responsibilities? That Lagos sef. Never liked it. Too bustly and exhausting. It's like the sun is even hotter there. Lol.

@nikkygal, my house is a 4 bedroom. Great neighborhood. Golf neighborhood. New. We even bought it before it was completely built.
Ballpark figure of 1,800 - 2,000 grand a month. give or take. And it's in the surbs of one of the most expensive cities in US as of now. Meaning you can even get way cheaper if you spread out to other places or choose less square feet.

Anyone who's moving like that should buy within their pockets. Not buying million dollar houses that will drain them financially.
Lol,Lagos has her own sun.Did you live in Lagos b4 relocating?
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by Gerrard59(m): 10:48pm On Aug 16, 2016
So things have gotten this bad and expensive in Nigeria?

Talking about schools and prices, here in Uyo, the top schools are Tower of Ivory, Top Faith High School, Graceland Schools, Rayfield International, Esteem High Schools, Monef High schools etc. The highest in terms of fees should be Top Faith - around and possibly above #400K per term. However, my sister objected and said it should be Ritman College. Students in such schools aren't all politicians' children, as it's a mix of lecturers, business wo(men), top civil servants and definitely O&G workers. I don't know about Eket, the most over-prized/hyped "city" in Akwa Ibom; roads are tiny than London's road; and are not standard.

I'll not blame any individual for sending his/her child(ren) to top schools (or expensive ones, Nigerians correlate high fees with quality, however, Nigerians are humans) as the state schools are nothing to "tweet" home about. Over populated, dirty, indolent and nonchalant teachers (why won't they be when they're owed?), poor facilities and a harsh environment etc. I spent my first year out of primary school in a public school (Port-Harcourt), I knew what I faced. Nobody told me to run the following session. Going to good schools enable the child to be well exposed to an amiable environment, good facilities & amenities. Moreover, globally, the very best jobs are gotten by those who went to the best schools unless you're very good intellectually. Parents should give their children the best education, it goes a long way.

Additionally, there has a spring of private schools (they look mushroom to me) in other parts of Uyo especially the Shelter Afrique area (Lekki Phase 1 of Uyo, Ewet Housing is the VI), and they come with outrageous names - King Solomon High School? Hopefully, the lads don't turn into future adulterers.

Talking about relocation, why are Nigerians so keen about the West? Don't get me wrong, I'm no communist nor a conspiracy theorist. However, with Brexit, open doors to unskilled and dangerous migrants (rape cases have increased in European cities), debt crisis, unsustainable welfare programs and terrorism, why not try Asian nations like Singapore, Japan, S.Korea, AUS/NZ or China? Their kids perform exceptionally in maths and science (the future is STEM), they have good educational systems (According to the QS rankings, The National University of Singapore is the 12th best in the world, her sister school, The Nanyang Technological University is 13th (founded in 1991, Uniuyo was formed same year. Nigerian politicians are wicked, however, Nigerians deserve what they get.), Todai, KASIT). It's safe (3 of the world's safest cities are in Asia: Tokyo, Singapore and Osaka. According to The Economist Intelligence Unit.), clean, efficient, less corrupt and less expensive with the exception of Singapore.
I understand language barrier, however, Asian nations are keen on learning English and is more like the second official language in major cities; with the exception of Singapore that has it as one of its official languages. We're in a global village and learning a second language is a boost, at least learning Mandarin pays better than French; in the long run.

Nice discussion, learning a lot.

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Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 12:15am On Aug 17, 2016
thorpido:
Lol,Lagos has her own sun.Did you live in Lagos b4 relocating?

No I lived in owerri. Very quiet town. I only visited Lagos once in a while
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 12:24am On Aug 17, 2016
Lmao @ bold.

You know your last paragraph is such a good point I wonder why we don't think of that often. It probably won't be as expensive as it is in the west.

Gerrard59:
So things have gotten this bad and expensive in Nigeria?

Talking about schools and prices, here in Uyo, the top schools are Tower of Ivory, Top Faith High School, Graceland Schools, Rayfield International, Esteem High Schools, Monef High schools etc. The highest in terms of fees should be Top Faith - around and possibly above #400K per term. However, my sister objected and said it should be Ritman College. Students in such schools aren't all politicians' children, as it's a mix of lecturers, business wo(men), top civil servants and definitely O&G workers. I don't know about Eket, the most over-prized/hyped "city" in Akwa Ibom; roads are tiny than London's road; and are not standard.

I'll not blame any individual for sending his/her child(ren) to top schools (or expensive ones, Nigerians correlate high fees with quality, however, Nigerians are humans) as the state schools are nothing to "tweet" home about. Over populated, dirty, indolent and nonchalant teachers (why won't they be when they're owed?), poor facilities and a harsh environment etc. I spent my first year out of primary school in a public school (Port-Harcourt), I knew what I faced. Nobody told me to run the following session. Going to good schools enable the child to be well exposed to an amiable environment, good facilities & amenities. Moreover, globally, the very best jobs are gotten by those who went to the best schools unless you're very good intellectually. Parents should give their children the best education, it goes a long way.

Additionally, there has a spring of private schools (they look mushroom to me) in other parts of Uyo especially the Shelter Afrique area (Lekki Phase 1 of Uyo, Ewet Housing is the VI), and they come with outrageous names - King Solomon High School? Hopefully, the lads don't turn into future adulterers.

Talking about relocation, why are Nigerians so keen about the West? Don't get me wrong, I'm no communist nor a conspiracy theorist. However, with Brexit, open doors to unskilled and dangerous migrants (rape cases have increased in European cities), debt crisis, unsustainable welfare programs and terrorism, why not try Asian nations like Singapore, Japan, S.Korea, AUS/NZ or China? Their kids perform exceptionally in maths and science (the future is STEM), they have good educational systems (According to the QS rankings, The National University of Singapore is the 12th best in the world, her sister school, The Nanyang Technological University is 13th (founded in 1991, Uniuyo was formed same year. Nigerian politicians are wicked, however, Nigerians deserve what they get.), Todai, KASIT). It's safe (3 of the world's safest cities are in Asia: Tokyo, Singapore and Osaka. According to The Economist Intelligence Unit.), clean, efficient, less corrupt and less expensive with the exception of Singapore.
I understand language barrier, however, Asian nations are keen on learning English and is more like the second official language in major cities; with the exception of Singapore that has it as one of its official languages. We're in a global village and learning a second language is a boost, at least learning Mandarin pays better than French; in the long run.

Nice discussion, learning a lot.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by thorpido(m): 7:03am On Aug 17, 2016
cococandy:


No I lived in owerri. Very quiet town. I only visited Lagos once in a while
Lagos really can be exhausting but it's where i live.

@EfemenaXY,can one move to the UK to cut costs?It seems like it's cheaper here in Nigeria than in the UK.
Re: Help: Creche And Preschool In Lekki/ajah by cococandy(f): 7:07am On Aug 17, 2016
thorpido:
Lagos really can be exhausting but it's where i live.

@EfemenaXY,can one move to the UK to cut costs?It seems like it's cheaper here in Nigeria than in the UK.
I guess it grows on you.

It's mostly people like us who are used to quiet towns that complain like this. I think some lagosians must be enjoying the fast paced life.

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