yorex2011:
Do yoh know if we follow your argument, at least one female employee can be absent each day in a medium / big establishment?
Then eventually customers or clients will get used to it and may unknowingly create an air of awkwardness (like looking at you, like last week was ur own, now it Nkechi's own).
Obviously everyone will just know you prolly just had your period and when you get pregnant, People will still know because you won't go for your "normal period leave"

What about Doctors, lecturers, bank staff?

Well, i know women have been managing things since time immemorial.

I think it will be a debacle

samhay:
They can stay home,but they will work on Saturdays and Sundays for 3weeks b4 the period arrive

joseph1832:
Women already have the pleasure of maternity leave when they're pregnant and nursing babies, so asking them to stay home during their period will be like adding salt into a salty soup.

So it will be a debacle. Not everybody will smile at it, because let's face it, it will affect productivity and the effectiveness of companies that employ women mostly, and according to the National Bureau of Statistics, women get more employed than men these days.

amicable09:

Maternity leave a pleasure? No. I don't quite agree Joe. And seeing it as adding salt to an over salted soup is not supposed to be.

I'm actually looking at the health implication of this stress on the female gender. Is it not better to have a fit employee rather than have an employee who is irritated at work owing to some things beyond her control

I think we need to look for a level playing field for this matter. Look at young girls in secondary schools getting stained and feeling depressed in school. Look at girls who suffer severe cramps during menstruation. Why insist they come to school just because of test? Why?

amicable09:

Let's agree first that it's not something the lady should be ashamed of. Going on period leave is to be seen as going on maternity leave. For me there's no use coming to work and being cranky, acting all nasty because you're irritated. Don't you think it will affect productivity?

If on the other hand she is granted period leave, she comes back to work after she has fully rested and ready to take up the days work doubling efficiency and effectiveness in the workplace.

Beamborla:
5 days off 20 working days in a month every month.
E for sweet but that's like asking for too much.

In a developing country like Nigeria, we need all hands on deck. When Nigeria becomes developed, just maybe.

Moreover, we can always manage our menstrual issues. Except for those who get really sick whenever mama Rose comes visiting.

I mean, do you walk up to your Boss and go 'my period is due to start tomorrow, I won't be coming in'

For me, it's debacle

amicable09:

Bee, as funny as this may sound I believe it is possible and practicable in Nigeria . We are not asking for 5 full working days off but at least the first two days not forgetting it might start on Thursday or Friday on some months.

Look at it very well. I read today that an employer in UK is actually granting her female staff period leave and according to her they come back to work happy and give it their best.

It's sth Nigerians should begin to think of adopting.

joseph1832:
I referred to maternity leave as 'a pleasure' because let's face it, the woman won't be working yet she will still be getting paid, and her leave isn't adding any productivity to the company she works for, it's solely her comfort.

Remember, "health is wealth". I don't see how a lady undergoing her menstrual cycle isn't going to be fit for work. If she gets irritated because she's in her period she just have to make sure it doesn't affect her work as not all women feel the same way she feels. Beside, it's not as if she being in her menstrual cycle mean she has brain tumour, as she's still mentally fit and alert.

That's why we have guardian counsellors in schools.

Telling them to sit at home because of cramps is like telling them to sit at home because they have headaches.

yorex2011:


It may periods MAY affect productivity but not coming to work WILL equal zero productivity.
Certain kinds of jobs like being a receptionist or a personal assistant may have problems as there may be no one to fill for them temporarily, or in a case where she has expert knowledge that no one else has in the company.

I don't mean to sound psychopathic but people can even calculate a woman's monthly leave cycles and accurately get information that will make them know the times she will be away from work and use that knowledge for dubious things.

I really don't think its a good idea.

uboma:




I have read something similar in the past and my question is, won't Nigerians abuse the privilege if it became a policy in the work environment?

I totally agree that during the period *mama rose* is calling, productivity becomes low and some ladies get cranky and snobbish sometimes but I am sure that for the time being, no employer will turn down a two days off work request on health grounds from its female employee even if such request becomes regular on a monthly basis.

amicable09:

Lol. For real?
You are not sensitive to the plight of women at all. Yes, she's not suffering from brain tumor but then of what profit is it when she keeps visiting the restroom every now and then. When she stands up every 5 times in one hour to do some exercises to relieve her of the pain she's experiencing.

Alternatively, she can work from home. That way productivity isn't totally affected. Telling a young girl to still come to school when she's suffering severe cramps makes no sense. Our education system needs to be flexible enough as to accommodate young girls with dysmenorrhea.

Adesiji77:
@amicable09: Interesting topic. Following

joseph1832:
Being sensitive have absolutely nothing to do with anything. You make it sound as if all women experience this 'discomfort' you speak off. I know many women who don't even bat an eyelid when they're in their period, they act normal as if nothing is happening.

I've asked them if they feel any discomfort during these times and most usually tell me "they're use to it". So I no reason why this should even be an issue. Remember, a grown adult woman isn't a teenage girl.

Work from home? Like seriously? Work from home You expect someone who took 'period leave' to work from home? Perhaps women on maternity leave should start working from home also, don't you think so?.

Telling a young girl to come to school when she's experiencing menstrual cramps is doing her a favour. You're inadvertently telling and teaching her that her monthly 'weakness' shouldn't be perceived as a 'weakness' or a 'setback'. It should be seen as a means for her to overcome and master it, and not cave in to it and seek for sentiment just because God made her a woman. After all, there's a reason God decided to make her a woman, and setting at home when she's experiencing her menstrual flow isn't one of them.

amicable09:

Lol. First, please teach me how to reply your posts the same way you reply mine. taking it section by section .

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Second, if you follow my responses to others here, I did mention that not all women will have need for this leave as it is only suited or directed to women with dysmenorrhea.

Work from home? Yes, work from home if that is possible. If she has a deadline to meet. Working from home isn't too much to ask since according to you it is merely a discomfort and not brain tumor.

Suggesting that a nursing mother work from home is so so uncalled for! She isn't at home for pleasure neither is she staying at home to watch Telemundo but she's at home for a specific assignment. Tending to her unborn/new born baby. Also, most women on maternity leave don't get full salary. Some get paid nothing at all.

To the little girl, her visitor from Venus didn't bring her weakness. I'm not saying we are going to teach them weakness, rather I'm saying rather than try stretching them to exceed breaking point, we can bend them to the point of relative comfort.

bibijay123:
I think women should be allowed to stay at home on the first day of their period because the first day is hell but some women would take advantage of it, some could even claim they see their period twice a month. If there are five women in the organization and all five of them had it on the same day or some of them claimed to, it would surely affect the organization negatively.


It's a debacle for me!

bibijay123:
I think women should be allowed to stay at home on the first day of their period because the first day is hell but some women would take advantage of it, some could even claim they see their period twice a month. If there are five women in the organization and all five of them had it on the same day or some of them claimed to, it would surely affect the organization negatively.


It's a debacle for me!

Imithea:
It's debacle for me, totally unrealistic and somewhat unreasonable.
3-5 day menstrual leave is funny but not enough to whittle down the absurd reality.
If a woman is going to get a Menstrual leave, then she should also get the PreMenstrualTension/Syndrome(PMT/PMS)leave too. For a high number of women[including yours truly], the latter is more hormonal, full of depression and downright more uncomfortable. That should be at least 5 days till Madam Rose comes calling.

My point is if we 'do' get a menstrual leave, some people will still ask for a PMT/PMS leave and in the end women will spend 6-10 days out of the 20 days of work for something as trivial as menstruation.
Conclusion, the days of a woman are full of hormonal jiggles, deal with it or resign to 'housewifery'.

amicable09:

What!!!
For real Bibi?
Stay home on the first day, a welcome idea.
But other women taking advantage of it? I doubt.

Doctors can actually tell who is eligible to take on this leave and who isn't. This leave the way I see it won't affect the organization adversely. Will employers prefer employees to die at work rather than rest at home? Haven't you noticed that on the first day of a woman's period, if she stays at home, eating the right kind of food - fruits and veggies, with adequate rest, the pain is mild compared to having her out on the road and doing physical work. I personally have noticed that in motion, the flow is heavier than when the body is at rest.

amicable09:

Hahahahahaha.
Don't be too hard on us , this request is debatable.
I'm pretty sure when maternal leave was first mentioned, it came with as much resistance as period leave is having now. For me personally, PMT/PMS is worse than the menstruation itself. However, I am looking at the risk factor of dysmenorrhoea. Rather than sentence us to housewifery, we can work something around it. Don't you think?

We are too complex. I don't really know much about dysmenorrhoea.

But one certainity is that the brothers are going to be on our necks for this.

joseph1832:
Well it's simpe. Use this format, Whatever you want to post should be inside the dot dot dot.

Now how will you know who has this illness and who doesn't? Remember it is easy to fake an illness as a excuse for not coming to work. Still, do you think those who don't suffer from this illness will be happy seeing others go for this period leave? That's the surest way to make a business crumble because every woman will want to say they're suffering from this, as a ruse not to come to work.

So she feels comfortable at home and not at work? That's a sure sign that she's just using her illness as an excuse not to come to work.

Well to put an end to this point. Any woman who want to go on period leave shouldn't be expecting to get paid, since she's not comfortable working in the office, she shouldn't be comfortable getting paid not doing anything.

And how do we bend them to the point of relative comfort? By telling them to stay at home and forfeit classes because the visitor from Venus came visiting?.

bibijay123:




i would like to stay at home when i get my period since i wont be able to do anything productive in the office anyway bt i wouldn't want to be checked by a doctor to see if am actually on or not. my first day is all abt cramps and no flow until d second day so they might even think i was lying.

amicable09:

Why do I feel like you scammed me?
There are no dots or eclipses anywhere here to type in my response. Am I supposed to create it? well, I'll figure this mystery out someway someday.

*****

When you experience this pain I talk about, you will agree with me that a little sister needs the day off.

Imithea:


We are too complex. I don't really know much about dysmenorrhoea.

But one certainity is that the brothers are going to be on our necks for this.

joseph1832:
How can I scam someone I ... Anyway, this was what I meant . Whatever you want to post should be inside (between) the quote boxes. Just like you make your text bold.
..I'm thinking it is something like this but something tells me this message will come out inside your post. Lol..

Well, I see no reason why anyone should let pain rule over them. Atleast menstrual pain isn't as painful as the pain one experience when giving birth, so why the fuss.