The thoughts of heaven alone gives you energy and can make you feel like flying without wings. It's the best source of motivation I have ever seen. When you think of heaven, fear dissappear and you get anxious to do good.

To do unbelievable things is simple. Take your mind out of this earth and put all your focus on heaven. It’s analogous to focusing on the finish line instead of just your next step in an athletic race. That’s what Usain Bolt does. I have made heaven my goal and the motivation I get now is not a synthetic one but divine. Unbelievable wisdom and understanding.

Read Matthew 6:33 and you will know why this is so.

And it says Matthew 6:33 and he will give you all you need from day to day if you live for him and make the Kingdom of God your primary concern

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Heaven?

Where's heaven?

I can't stop laughing.

Heaven has to be a specific place or it doesn't exist.

An old archaic book cannot tell us the location of anywhere in the universe.

Making earth 'heaven' is my top concern. Only the dull believe they will live forevermore in some huge mansion in God-kmows-where

oglalasioux:
Heaven?

Where's heaven?

I can't stop laughing.

Heaven has to be a specific place or it doesn't exist.

An old archaic book cannot tell us the location of anywhere in the universe.

heaven is the abode of God that is somewhere in the sky. God did not gives us the ability to see it with our naked eyes while alive. Don't worry when you're old, has enjoyed your children, get tired and decide to give up, you will know the exact location of it in the sky and you will see it with your eyes. Seeing is believing

FearGodAndLive:
Making earth 'heaven' is my top concern. Only the dull believe they will live forevermore in some huge mansion in God-kmows-where

your choice

Jesuobu:
your choice

There's really no choice. You shouldn't make up tales in your head and claim people have a choice to believe or not. That's nonsense.

You claim there's a heaven? Have you been there? Where is it? What goes on there? Why is death the only way to reach its gates?

.... Now;


How do YOU know there is heaven

Some islamic reports have it on good authority that heaven is a fun filled place with 72 virgins.


Why is their's wrong and yours right

SirWere:
.... Now;


How do YOU know there is heaven

Some islamic reports have it on good authority that heaven is a fun filled place with 72 virgins.


Why is their's wrong and yours right

you can choose to believe any you think is correct

Jesuobu:
you can choose to believe any you think is correct

You can't choose to believe. If that were so, I'll still be a happy christian bashing atheists wherever I find them, with no doubts I'm aboslutely right.


But it ain't so.

SirWere:


You can't choose to believe. If that were so, I'll still be a happy christian bashing atheists wherever I find them, with no doubts I'm aboslutely right.


But it ain't so.

alright. As it pleases you

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See the problem here? Instead of focusing on how to make this world a better place, they focus on imaginary promises. And any little good they do isn't because they genuinely care about the future of humanity, its because they want to score points with their emotional hot-tempered god.

AnonyNymous:
See the problem here? Instead of focusing on how to make this world a better place, they focus on imaginary promises. And any little good they do isn't because they genuinely care about the future of humanity, its because they want to score points with their emotional hot-tempered god.

focusing in heaven will make the world a better place because you will get the urge to do good, feeling convinced that an eternal reward awaits you. Jesus doesn't care whether you do good to score points or not, but just want you to do good in any manner.

Hmmm... Watch the atheists take over the thread in 3... 2... 1....

#TeamJesus for me.

It's [size=15pt]LadyF[/size] again

Heaven is not some undefined somewhere up there in the skies, heaven is here on earth, the leading ruling dominating nations of our world are heaven. For example, America is the heaven of this present world. White people are presently the dwellers of heaven.

When Christ returns, black people will be the new dwellers of heaven, and every other person who received Christ's offer of salvation while he was away. It is not a blanket salvation for black people, it is only for those who received the offer of salvation too, but non the same, it is a black people's heaven.

This "Heaven" message is the reason why most Christians like mediocre lives....not contributing anything to the society, all in the name of the awaiting prize of eternity.

People no longer think about eternity, the devil has pushed more things to worry about into the world thereby blinding us from the reality of the afterlife

It's hard to reconcile the issue of predestination and making heaven.

Let's make Nigeria a heaven and stop imagining that heaven is somewhere. First world countries have very less of this thought (are we more knowledgeable than they are?)

I'd prepare meeting God, but at last if Heaven doesn't exist. So shall it be...

Hehehe, satan it's too early for you this morning o

Sometimes I wonder, Where do you people get this perception from?

Is it not the same bible you read? So people still believe that when someone dies, the spirit goes to heaven and stay with the angels and saints, singing hymms and praising God till eternity

Pls ain't this a bible verse? Wasn't Daniel inspired by the Holy Ghost when he was writting this??

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

What about Job
14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

There is more on Ecclessiastes, John, and so on. telling us that when a man dies, he is asleep in d grave. until the end of the world when Jesus will come and ressurrect them.

Before you crucify me, I am not an atheist, I am not saying there is no God, I am just confused at where you guys read from

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Jesuobu:
The thoughts of heaven alone gives you energy and can make you feel like flying without wings. It's the best source of motivation I have ever seen. When you think of heaven, fear dissappear and you get anxious to do good.

To do unbelievable things is simple. Take your mind out of this earth and put all your focus on heaven. It’s analogous to focusing on the finish line instead of just your next step in an athletic race. That’s what Usain Bolt does. I have made heaven my goal and the motivation I get now is not a synthetic one but divine. Unbelievable wisdom and understanding.

Read Matthew 6:33 and you will know why this is so.

And it says Matthew 6:33 and he will give you all you need from day to day if you live for him and make the Kingdom of God your primary concern

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What if everything you typed is bullshitt to me

It's not everyone that believes in your bible,
So making your reference with it nonsensical.

FearGodAndLive:

There's really no choice. You shouldn't make up tales in your head and claim people have a choice to believe or not. That's nonsense.

You claim there's a heaven? Have you been there? Where is it? What goes on there? Why is death the only way to reach its gates?

Why is eating the only way to stay live?
Why is having sex the only way to procreate?
WHY IS BREATHING THE ONLY WAY TO LIVE?

Don't waste your time chasing heaven. Think of how you can utilise the little time you have on earth for good..

With all the comments above me, all I can say is "Its well".

If you don't believe in Heaven, why bother to open the thread in the first place tho?

FearGodAndLive:

There's really no choice. You shouldn't make up tales in your head and claim people have a choice to believe or not. That's nonsense.

You claim there's a heaven? Have you been there? Where is it? What goes on there? Why is death the only way to reach its gates?

Can you just live the forum? What is just wrong with some foolish folks like you?

This is for christians, and you are here to spew trash and console yourself on something you view as fairy tale.

Why are you this foolish bro?

All arguments of whether heaven exist or not put aside, life on this earth is transitory. None of us choose to come into it, you just saw yourself here. We were not given a plant life or ordinary animal life, but a human life here. So there is a 'Giver' of life that choose to give you a human life and not a dog life or a plant life. One day that life will be taken without your consent just as it was given without your permission.

Question is: What's the aim in all these?

A car manufacturers, after making any car text runs the car before stamping it satisfactory. So does every manufacturer of any product, be it an aeroplane or whatever, it must be text run.

Do you not them think that this Human Manufacturer will text run his products to see what they are like. What kind of life is good enough or bad enough?

If he is text running you and finds you a decent product, do you not think, he will put his stamp on you as tested and trusted?

But if he text you and finds you a bad product do you not think he will discard you as not so good a product? How them will you think you will ask him questions as to were he discards his product as though you help him design it?

Many don't believe but the truth I think is God has made for himself a new heaven and a new earth and he is text running you and I to see which of us will be there.

Read Revelation 21:1-27. Read all. Verse 8 said: 'but the fearful and unbelieving and the abominable...' will not be part of this new place.

So as God text runs his products and find a product with such defects (finds you are fearful for instance) he will discard it as not good enough.

But every worthy product is separated for the new heaven and new earth.

In all these, God still want each of his product to come out victorious so he provided a way. He set life and death and advised that you choose life because it is the Manufacturer that is at a lose if his product is defective.

So please receive today abundance of Grace and the gift of righteousness, as provided, so you can reign in life. If you reign, The 'Giver' of life will separate you for himself as a product that is tested and trusted and therefore worthy of something better.

Remember your life was not you originating - that's the point.