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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Nobody: 6:57am On Aug 26, 2016
Reas what you have written again?

1) There is a difference between the family head of land owning families and Omo oniles.
2) Omo oniles cannot legally repossess a land that has been sold to you.
3) This law is defective The draftsman that wrote that provision should be ******(Yes, I said it but then I think it might be a case of bad drafting).
4) Who is going to fix the foundation fee? There is no part of the article to suggest that the e law has fixed anything.
5) Is it going to be relative to a particular area or discretionary at the behest of the family head?
6) What is going to happen if the landowner think it is too excessive?
7) Why should anyone pay for foundation fee after he/she has legally acquired a land which has in law and in fact becomes his/hers?



I hope they are not expecting the court or any governmental institution to waste our resources in sorting out something as stvpid and frivolous as foundation fee.



sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by lightheart(m): 6:58am On Aug 26, 2016
nextstep:


The trouble is:
1. the law does not say you will pay "foundation fee" only once
2. it also does not say what constitutes this fee. Say you build 3 bungalows, do you pay thrice?
3. they can ask for any amount
4. you'll be lured into paying one price for land, then be compelled to pay double once you're hooked

Of course, this may not be the case today, but I can see how this foundation fee can evolve to be a monster over time


You got the gist.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by uprightman(m): 6:58am On Aug 26, 2016
checkolatunji:
Why Igbos always complain about Lagos? Wetin concern una sef? Oya make una kpain una sef.......Yeye Phifu
barrister omodele is now an Igbo man. why do you hate Igbo. ?

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Nobody: 6:59am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
So in essence they have legalised omo onile
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Dexema(m): 7:00am On Aug 26, 2016
Lazy people in government, were they blind before they created a law with so much ambiguity? Ambode better sit up, I say they remove that section totally.
You expect me to pay for land, pay government taxes over the property, maintain it and then still pay foundation fee? Criminality is gradually getting a legal foot hold in our government.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by phoneport(m): 7:01am On Aug 26, 2016
checkolatunji:
Why Igbos always complain about Lagos? Wetin concern una sef? Oya make una kpain una sef.......Yeye Phifu
Sssssharap there omo o shi. we are talking about what will affect even generations after us in a democracy, and you are talking tribalism here.
Have you started smoking that thing,............ this early morning.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Nobody: 7:03am On Aug 26, 2016
waldigit:
I have said it time and time again. Lagos instituted the land tout issue aka one pile and hence they can't stop it.
What I can only advice now is judicial interpretation in law court or petition to National Assembly. But in interim I advise that you result to fed power to curb the excesses of these land tout. You get the gist. OPMESA guys to the rescue.
OPMESA won't guard your house forever na. Omo Oniles are necessary evil. The best solution is to just bargain with them.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Bigante: 7:03am On Aug 26, 2016
Whether he was Under pressure from Lagos landowners association or he just wants to tactically do eye service (line his pocket with cheap and dirty egunge from foundation laying fees is out of the question) the fact remains that Gov. Ambode really messed up an opportunity, came up short of ideas and exhibited poor judgement. This is a classical case of arresting a notorious thief and then setting a dangerous robber free. Gov Ambode pls make up your civilised mind are you for the masses or for those that are already rich. If in doubt pls check international best practices around the world as regards the sale of land.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by samsongbemisola(m): 7:06am On Aug 26, 2016
Legalizing fraud. The most barbaric aspect is that the foundation fee is not stated which means the land owners can demand for any amount legally and the buyer must pay, this is insane. This law was suppose to protect land buyers but in actual sense it will derail them the more. Before when land owner fee (omo onile) fee is not legalize you can take them to court or use soldiers on them but now you can't do that but to pay whatever amount they ask. This law has empower omo onile the more. People requested to be protected from land owners exploitation over the Year but the government could not protect them because majority of the government stakeholders are from omo onile families, so to make it look like they want protect them the the make a law with a clause(foundation fee) which can be any amount since it was not specified in the law.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by 2n2k(m): 7:11am On Aug 26, 2016
nedu2000:
Lagos generates internally generated revenue blah blah..but 99% of it is from tax/fines,what percentage is from services rendered or exports? Lazy govt
IGR doesn't include crude oil gains

If 99% of Lagos IGR is from taxes, then they are doing the right thing. It is not the duty of proper government to engage in exports. Citizens produce, export and pay taxes on proceeds/profits to government.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by amuokuko: 7:13am On Aug 26, 2016
checkolatunji:
Why Igbos always complain about Lagos? Wetin concern una sef? Oya make una kpain una sef.......Yeye Phifu

Even ur father nd fore father's don't ve a square meter of landed property in lagos..

So kontinew!!

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by UncleJudax(m): 7:13am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
If paying for a land has not been enough deterrent to omo nile, paying foundation fee won't.

People have "always" paid foundation fee anyway, na legalisation dem do so.

Now, after paying the foundation fee to the family, omo nile would still come for theirs, if you don't pay them, no work goes on, and neither the family nor the government would do anything about it.

So, forget all those grammar!
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by nedu2000(m): 7:16am On Aug 26, 2016
2n2k:


If 99% of Lagos IGR is from taxes, then they are doing the right thing. It is not the duty of proper government to engage in exports. Citizens produce, export and pay taxes on proceeds/profits to government.
what about service delivery?waste mgt,tolls,govt-run micro-finance institutions to help in credit,subsidising products...any product!!for its residence.
Instead we pay even for security in Lagos
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by 2n2k(m): 7:17am On Aug 26, 2016
Bigante:
Whether he was Under pressure from Lagos landowners association or he just wants to tactically do eye service (line his pocket with cheap and dirty egunge from foundation laying fees is out of the question) the fact remains that Gov. Ambode really messed up an opportunity, came up short of ideas and exhibited poor judgement. This is a classical case of arresting a notorious thief and then setting a dangerous robber free. Gov Ambode pls make up your civilised mind are you for the masses or for those that are already rich. If in doubt pls check international best practices around the world as regards the sale of land.

I thought the law was passed by the lagos state house of assembly and there must have been public hearings held on it by the house. Why blame Ambode alone?

We always argue that the legislature represents the people more than the executive.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by tivta(m): 7:18am On Aug 26, 2016
Lawyers in the house, is it not best to buy and renovate a house in Lagos? Or will I still pay these outrageous fees?
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by eph12(m): 7:19am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
That is rubbish my friend. We should have laws protecting land buyers not encouraging exploitation.
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by otokx(m): 7:21am On Aug 26, 2016
A country of extortioners, who love to attend church.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by OkoNDOoBo: 7:23am On Aug 26, 2016
You think ambode will be Stupid to abolish omo onile without any palliatives,
This is not a federal law but a state law.
If u re not kk with it can jump and pass,I don't care whether u re hausa igbo or yoruba.

That's what we indigenes of Lagos want gringrin

Call a street urchin I don't Mind so far u will pay ur foundation fee gringrin
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by 8BitGee(m): 7:25am On Aug 26, 2016
That's a silly law, I must say. I despise anything omo-onile. They are dregs. Dirty greedy hopeless bastards!
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by bkool7(m): 7:27am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.

Oh!! Nairalanders, Will never read a post but will rush to comment.

How will the amount paid be determined?
What if a land with a house is sold and the new owner demolished it. Will he pay foundation fee to reconstruct again?
In some areas, the land owners are not touts, once they sold the land, they don't worry u again. Now, Lagos govt is now tell them to also worry us for foundation fee

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by wirinet(m): 7:32am On Aug 26, 2016
Only foundation fee, what about decking fee, roofing fee, fencing fee and any other fee the "omonile" can come up with. I even had to pay renovation fee once, before I was allowed to comment a renovation contract I had.
How are the fees to be determined and what happens if the new land owner refuses to pay?
How are the "legal" Omoniles to be determined, what happens if one set of Omonile comes to collect Omonile fees and the next day another set comes again with cutlasses to demand for theirs? As happened to so many new house builders in Lagos.
I do not see force men paying this Omonile fees.
This law is what I call legalizing illegality.
Why can't all the various extra fees be included with the price of the land?
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by OkoNDOoBo: 7:34am On Aug 26, 2016
MrBONE2:
Next they will include Foundation siting,Owambe and Omoles"Touts" Fees. grin grin

watching in 6 by 3Dimension
It's none of your business I. Thought u flat-heads said lagos is no Man's land why can't u Igbos organise protest as usual because the lag govt doesn't right to insert omo onile clause because the state belongs to nobodygrincheesy
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Organizer111222(m): 7:47am On Aug 26, 2016
LASG officially omo onile
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by uyisteven(m): 7:50am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.

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Ma friend, read that tin well...how is dat a welcome development...Foundation fee could be twice or triple the amount u initially bought it...
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If u can't pay, it's as simple of them taking the land back...No specified stipend was stated..So, it's left 4 d family 2 set d fee at any price dey deem fit...Tell me, can u cough out #60million 4 a land u initially bought @ #100million...Xcept u plan of going in2 farming which they cud still hold u for opening up the ground 2...
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Izonpikin: 7:54am On Aug 26, 2016
when i say all non lagosians should leave lagos back to their own home town many thought i was joking...i want to see lagos state IGR squashed to pieces...with useless clauses like this in land purchase you now wonder why the state beats its chest as the best...let all of us leave lagos state... angry angry angry
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by smartgold1(m): 7:59am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by dremide: 8:03am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
Bro i disagree with you, there is nothing stopping the government from stipulating that it should be one payment, imagine that you pay once and for all for your land, even if there is hidden charges uncluded.. This new law simply means you can buy a land for 10m and they will still come back to say foundation is 20m, that means the land is 30m. The land should have been advertised for 30m initially and the sharing of the money is left to the land owners
This new law will bring more anarchy and it does not protect investors.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Enrichlee(m): 8:11am On Aug 26, 2016
checkolatunji:
Why Igbos always complain about Lagos? Wetin concern una sef? Oya make una kpain una sef.......Yeye Phifu
Someone hold this one, he's gradually losing it. What has igbo got to do in this matter. A yoruba lawyer is complaining abt exploitation in a yoruba state, and all u could think of is igbo. Its people like u that justifies the igbo thoughts that yorubas are senile. May u no die over igbo matter
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by divineappo(m): 8:13am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.
and u thought u made any sense... off-point
Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by Enrichlee(m): 8:15am On Aug 26, 2016
2n2k:


I thought the law was passed by the lagos state house of assembly and there must have been public hearings held on it by the house. Why blame Ambode alone?

We always argue that the legislature represents the people more than the executive.
His assent on the bill means everything. No one can ever refer to a law that has not been signed by the executive for any legal purposes. The legislature may have truly faulted but he's the C in C of the state

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by klbakare(m): 8:23am On Aug 26, 2016
sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.

You have just successfully spewed trash. "Omonile" has no right over their land again once it is sold. How would you feel if I sell my car to you, and tell you to pay me some amount any time you want to change the tire or the engine or whenever you want to do the general body.

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Re: Lawyer condemns new Lagos law legalising ‘foundation fee’ by bigtt76(f): 8:23am On Aug 26, 2016
No doubt about this but the law MUST state the percentage allowed to be collected as 'foundation fee'. Not when you pay N100million for a land and the family insist on collecting N200Million as foundation fee.

sobmos:
Look at it from another angle... It's a welcome development, legalizing the so called "foundation fee" is an act devised by the Lagos state government to curb the incessant troubles by the land grabbers (omo onile)... Once you pay your foundation fee that's the end of the story, if after paying your foundation fee and you're still troubled by the omo oniles, that makes it illegal,and you can sue them in court.... If you live in ikorodu you'll understand what I'm saying, the omo oniles are the general overlords in ikorodu, after paying for a piece of land , the omo onile can collect it back and there's nothing you can do about it. People should look at this new law from a different angle, you'll find that it's the lasting solution to this so called omo onile brouhaha.

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