You’re shaped by your experiences in life both good and bad, though most of which where beyond your control but God allowed them for His purpose of molding you to what He wants you to be. God intentionally allows you to go through painful experiences so that you know how to help those in pain because he comforts us in all our troubles and wants us to learn from His fair treatment and transfer it to others when the need arises.

Take for example, with the case of Job, God allowed Satan to do everything to Job except to kill him and what was Jobs reaction? “Though he may slay me, yet I hope in Him (Job 13: 15). Job did not understand why God had allowed the things He did but knew God was good and therefore continued to trust in Him. Ultimately that should be our reaction as well and not crying and shouting “God why me?” and speaking ill of Him in some cases.

Rather my dear brethren, be thankful for everything that happens to you because great souls are grown through struggles and storms and seasons of suffering and remember that there can never be rain without storm and neither will there be harvest without rain. In the end of the struggles you will come out victorious and you will realize the true intention of God was far different from what you have always thought.

Another reason why God allow bad things to happen to you even when you’re His child, is not to make you cry but It’s His deliberate act to shape your heart to love Him more. So God allowed those things which you see unfair because He knows a tree that is blown by tough wind does not grow strong root. Everything you face is just to make you strong and eradicate the fear of evil and death.

So my brothers and sisters whatever you face, be patient with God because He knows what He is doing. Thanks and God bless.

Written by Jesuobu(i.e. Jesus thank you)

Nice post

U have to pass through test before u can succeed in life. Remember joseph,job,abram,daniel ,even JESUS also ,they all passed through test.
NOTE: SUFFERING ONLY MAKES U STRONGER

Even allow you to suffer after all the prayers yet He blesses the unrighteous richly.i know a good father doesn't allow his children to suffer. The Barney

Barney11:
Even allow you to suffer after all the prayers yet He blesses the unrighteous richly.i know a good father doesn't allow his children to suffer. The Barney

a good father would always discipline his child by any means even if it's painful but knows in his heart that it's for the child's own benefit.

The same way you train up a child and the child never departs from the lessons even when he is old, same way God trains His children by different means so that when they get to heaven they will realize the reason for His discipline.

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hopefulLandlord:
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God never created evil and but permit it. Evil is just an absence of good, just the same way darkness is just an absence of light. Darkness wasn't created, just take out the candle, and darkness will create itself.

Jesuobu:
God never created evil and doesn't permit it. Evil is just an absence of good, just the same way darkness is just an absence of light. Darkness wasn't created, just take out the candle, and darkness will create itself.

bros, Yahweh according to Christians is omniscient

he knew the future, he knew Satan/Lucifer would turn evil, he even made sure to create a woman to be deceived by Satan under the guise of "its not good for man to be alone"

yet he didn't create evil? despite creating "everything" including those that worked together to bring about evil?

he even said it in the bible

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

hopefulLandlord:


bros, Yahweh according to Christians is omniscient

he knew the future, he knew Satan/Lucifer would turn evil, he even made sure to create a woman to be deceived by Satan under the guise of "its not good for man to be alone"

yet he didn't create evil? despite creating "everything" including those that worked together to bring about evil?

he even said it in the bible

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation and not by choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.

Jesuobu:
God did not create evil , but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation and not by choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.

Did you actually saw the quotation he gave you??

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

dblackninja:


Did you actually saw the quotation he gave you??

Well, I don't know where he got the bible verse from. The bible I know and which is the New King James version and the most authoritative, says " I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity. "

Calimity in this context, is an event that causes great harm and suffering. And such events of suffering is for God's purpose to mold us to what He wants us to be.

Without the darkness, the stars can never shine. The children of God are the stars while the darkness is the suffering which only makes us stronger.

Jesuobu:
God did not create evil, but He does allow evil. If God had not allowed for the possibility of evil, both mankind and angels would be serving God out of obligation and not by choice. He did not want “robots” that simply did what He wanted them to do because of their “programming.” God allowed for the possibility of evil so that we could genuinely have a free will and choose whether or not we wanted to serve Him.

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

hopefulLandlord:


Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

Look the post I posted before you posted this and see the response

hopefulLandlord:


Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.

I remember when I quoted this verse to one JW dude like that. The guy actually hid his bible from me when I tried to show him proof

Jesuobu:
Well, I don't know where he got the bible verse from. The bible I know and which is the New King James version and the most authoritative, says " I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity. "

Calimity in this context, is an event that causes great harm and suffering. And such events of suffering is for God's purpose to mold us to what He wants us to be.

Without the darkness, the stars can never shine. The children of God are the stars while the darkness is the suffering which only makes us stronger.

So, children dying daily is god's plan?

Jesuobu:
God never created evil and but permit it. Evil is just an absence of good, just the same way darkness is just an absence of light. Darkness wasn't created, just take out the candle, and darkness will create itself.

Ur God created evil..

hahn:


So, children dying daily is god's plan?

it's wrong to just pick out one bible verse and dwell on it without knowing it's actual meaning. Pray to the father that He gives you the wisdom to comprehend His Holy book and know the actual meaning of the text.

hahn:


You are really deluded and obviously not thinking with your brain

Says the person, whose hasty and faulty thinking has been exposed several times on Nairaland before. Shiod

Jesuobu:
Well, I don't know where he got the bible verse from. The bible I know and which is the New King James version and the most authoritative, says " I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity. "

Calimity in this context, is an event that causes great harm and suffering.

Thank you. I believe you know the meaning of evil as well. Any difference??

And such events of suffering is for God's purpose to mold us to what He wants us to be.

So in effect you are saying that God is doing all these monstrous stuff like:

-killing through earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis
-More killing by creating different kinds of diseases & pathogens and modifing them to be better killing machines if we find solutions to the weaker strain
-Plaquing his beloved children with hunger & poverty for them to die miserably....Killing again!!!

just to mould you to love him incessantly and spread his goodness??

Jesuobu:
God never created evil and but permit it. Evil is just an absence of good, just the same way darkness is just an absence of light. Darkness wasn't created, just take out the candle, and darkness will create itself.

so evil is ''eternal''?
The only ''eternal'' thing according to theists is their ''God''..
Btw..
God also commited lots of this''evil'' in the bible..so??
Whats ''good'' in not-forgiving your enemies btw?

Keep the comments coming while I go get some tea. Remember God loves you even in your times of troubles. Take good care of yourselves

felixomor:


Says the person, whose hasty and faulty thinking has been exposed several times on Nairaland before. Shiod

For instance.....

dblackninja:


Thank you. I believe you know the meaning of evil as well. Any difference??



So in effect you are saying that God is doing all these monstrous stuff like:

-killing through earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis
-More killing by creating different kinds of diseases & pathogens and modifing them to be better killing machines if we find solutions to the weaker strain
-Plaquing his beloved children with hunger & poverty for them to die miserably....Killing again!!!

just to mould you to love him incessantly and spread his goodness??

Read your Bible. We ae all sinners. We are born into sin from Adam and Eve. As a father punishes a child so must God punish us for our evil hearts. How he does this is not for us to judge. He is God. We must only obey and remain in his favour.

hahn:


For instance.....

....the pic u posted above. No need to go too far.

felixomor:


....the pic u posted above. No need to go too far.

Lol. And what has your non existent god done about it? Or do you mean to say people do not suffer or are you blind to the fact that there is more suffering in the world than peace? Or you just do not have anything meaningful to say

Jesuobu:
You’re shaped by your experiences in life both good and bad, though most of which where beyond your control but God allowed them for His purpose of molding you to what He wants you to be. God intentionally allows you to go through painful experiences so that you know how to help those in pain because he comforts us in all our troubles and wants us to learn from His fair treatment and transfer it to others when the need arises.

Take for example, with the case of Job, God allowed Satan to do everything to Job except to kill him and what was Jobs reaction? “Though he may slay me, yet I hope in Him (Job 13: 15). Job did not understand why God had allowed the things He did but knew God was good and therefore continued to trust in Him. Ultimately that should be our reaction as well and not crying and shouting “God why me?” and speaking ill of Him in some cases.

Rather my dear brethren, be thankful for everything that happens to you because great souls are grown through struggles and storms and seasons of suffering and remember that there can never be rain without storm and neither will there be harvest without rain. In the end of the struggles you will come out victorious and you will realize the true intention of God was far different from what you have always thought.

Another reason why God allow bad things to happen to you even when you’re His child, is not to make you cry but It’s His deliberate act to shape your heart to love Him more. So God allowed those things which you see unfair because He knows a tree that is blown by tough wind does not grow strong root. Everything you face is just to make you strong and eradicate the fear of evil and death.

So my brothers and sisters whatever you face, be patient with God because He knows what He is doing. Thanks and God bless.

Written by Jesuobu(i.e. Jesus thank you)

Your reason that good allows his faithfuls to suffer so as to love him more, tells of a truly psychopathic father void of compassion. So does your reason that he wants us to grow stronger from these experiences. What loving father would allow the devil to kill the all children of his son in less than a day just to test his faith. So the children meant nothing to God.

Aaronsrod:


Read your Bible. We ae all sinners. We are born into sin from Adam and Eve. As a father punishes a child so must God punish us for our evil hearts. How he does this is not for us to judge. He is God. We must only obey and remain in his favour.

Oh I see, he punishes by creating those evil as his whip. You're thereby saying that all these evils & mishaps we see everyday are God's punishment meted out on sinners because of their sins.

Even the death of an unborn baby, that died as a result of God punishing the mother (let's take the punishment to be "being swallowed in an earthquake" or "dying in a fatal accident" ) cannot be justified as the baby is also a sinner like you mentioned (Sin of Adam). Wow interesting, isn't God awesome??

hahn:


Lol. And what has your non existent god done about it? Or do you mean to say people do not suffer or are you blind to the fact that there is more suffering in the world than peace? Or you just do not have anything meaningful to say

Logically, u see how smelly ur conclusions are?
Please, go n read the bible well.

dblackninja:


Oh I see, he punishes by creating those evil as his whip. You're thereby saying that all these evils & mishaps we see everyday are God's punishment meted out on sinners because of their sins.

Even the death of an unborn baby, that died as a result of God punishing the mother (let's take the punishment to be "being swallowed in an earthquake" or "dying in a fatal accident" ) cannot be justified as the baby is also a sinner like you mentioned (Sin of Adam). Wow interesting, isn't God awesome??

You cannot know the mind of God. He has establish His laws for us to follow. The Bible tells us in Deuteronomy 17:19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them.

God has His own reasons for what He does. Without obedience and fear of the Lord you cannot comprehend this spiritual matters in human terms.

Aaronsrod:


You cannot know the mind of God. He has establish His laws for us to follow. The Bible tells us in Deuteronomy 17:19 And it shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to fear the Lord his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them.

God has His own reasons for what He does. Without obedience and fear of the Lord you cannot comprehend this spiritual matters in human terms.

Meeen so Christians have no hope at all. You have to live in constant fear knowing that anyday, god can send down his hammer of destruction on you (maybe just by being merciful by granting you a quick death through a suicide bomber).

So this is what christianity has to offer, what a pity

dblackninja:

Meeen so Christians have no hope at all. You have to live in constant fear knowing that anyday, god can send down his hammer of destruction on you (maybe just by being merciful by granting you a quick death through a suicide bomber).

So this is what christianity has to offer, what a pity

Believe me mockery is unwise. Seek the kingdom of god and life eternal.