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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Ndukwe007(m): 8:09pm On Sep 15, 2016
RedTarantula:
This is the work of wicked people that always want division amongs the Igbos.

These people are quick to shout 'Igbos are in five SE states only' yet they claim to have their brothers in MB lands of Kwara & Kogi.

I don't blame them but Igbos that have fallen for this nonsense.

How can someone serve you shiit and you eat it?

When have you heard any say I am MB Yoruba or I am NW fulani but when it comes to us in the east we even shout and quarell about this.

It is so frustrating. embarassed embarassed embarassed

Ishilove.
Guy let's stop deceiving ourselves, we are the one separating ourselves. can you for example from ebonyi ,go to Anambra to marry? say the truth.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by codemaniacs: 8:14pm On Sep 15, 2016
Abagworo:
The Edo descendants found among Delta Igbos were escorts while the major migrants from Benin kingdom were Igbos. At the peak of Benin kingdom most tribes that inhabited the lower Niger migrated en mass to Benin for so many reasons including recruitment into Benin army as mercenary fighters. Odogwu was one of the most popular Igbo men of old that ventured into Benin as a soldier but later left back to Igboland after many victories. The ancient Benin had Yoruba, Igala, Igbo and Ijaw as parts of the population and at a stage during the reign of a man Igbos know as "Obu aru" that Benin was in turmoil in a war Igbos call "Agha Idu n'Oba" the non-Binis left Benin in droves heading back home and in the process establishing settlements on their way back. Most Delta Igbos are descendants of Igbos that left Benin Kingdom heading back to East while Ijaws equally did same. It is easily verifiable by pattern of settlement, language and basic culture. The migrants adopted Benin styled leadership structure and felt superior to their untraveled brothers that were still naive.

There are also some Felta Igbos that never reached Benin but were already settled before those from Benin came to meet them. They are those in Aniocha and Oshimili whom some Benin returnees settled among establishing Benin like micro kingdoms.

Igbos have nothing to do with bini.. Igbos were across the Niger living in their own kingdoms..

there is nothing like Edo descendants, Edo was created in 1991.. the word "Edo" started in 1991.. they are Binis..

90% of Ijawland was part of Western Nigeria before Gowon decided to cause division..

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Abagworo(m): 8:18pm On Sep 15, 2016
lordpherow98:
bro I dnt tink u should classify igbanke as Igbo also.. i'm from igbanke and we speak differently frm the igbos...I understand very little frm what they speak

The basics of Igbanke is Igbo but there has been heavy Edo influence owing to so many reasons. Igbanke is one of the present solid evidence of Igbo settling close to Benin even though a different ethnic group today. Igbanke identifies as Ika not Igbo.
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:20pm On Sep 15, 2016
samyomz:
you talking like someone that is mentally retarded..you know whatt?..i'll leave you to your stupidity....you're pretty tho...but its quite unfortunate that you're not as smart
well dumb people always think they make sense,so I don't blame you..I'm used to seeing stupid people on here but yours is really disturbing and please stop with the you're pretty comment cos that's stale,to think that's the only sensible comment you made even when its not needed shows how stupid you are.asshole

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by ezeagu(m): 8:21pm On Sep 15, 2016
Whatever.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by sekundosekundo: 8:22pm On Sep 15, 2016
RareDiamonds:
Delta Igbos are Igbos across the river niger Anambra Igbos are those around the Anambra river, Imo Igbos are those around Imo river etc BUT IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS WE ARE ALL IGBOS. WE ARE THESAME PEOPLE WITH THESAME LANGUAGE, CULTURE, TRADITION AND HISTORY.

ALA IGBO WU OBODO OMA

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Abagworo(m): 8:26pm On Sep 15, 2016
codemaniacs:


Igbos have nothing to do with bini.. Igbos were across the Niger living in their own kingdoms..

there is nothing like Edo descendants, Edo was created in 1991.. the word "Edo" started in 1991.. they are Binis..

90% of Ijawland was part of Western Nigeria before Gowon decided to cause division..

You can't argue with me boy. I clearly wrote Bini there or you can check your quote. There were Igbos, Yorubas and Ijaws in Benin Kingdom that left at a point in history or founded new settlements nearby and beyond. I have oral evidence from my people but you can as well google documented evidences.
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:28pm On Sep 15, 2016
oluole:


if you take statistics majority of delta igbos don't like being called igbo and same with ikwerres for obious reasons
uhmmm..what obvious reasons?? and please don't come with the "Igbo's like money" crap cos everyone likes money its an individual thing not a tribe thing and I find people who say that as dumb,so please come up with something else..I'm waiting cool

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Ngozi123(f): 8:30pm On Sep 15, 2016
Igboid:
Ngozi123.

Nice submissions from you. Dalu.

To add to what you wrote. Not all Bini surnames in Anioma means that the bearers ancestors were Bini. That is usually a mistake many make.

In the pre colonial days, Bini empire was strong and it's influence extended over the Western Igbo area and Eastern Yorubaland.

Bini was seen as royalty and many non Bini people voluntarily took on Bini sounding names to curry favour from Bini.

Example can be seen from the list of the names of Ugbodu Kings:

Adeola,
Aderemi,
Ariyo,
Odofin;
Adetunji,
Oyetunji,
Ogbomon,


Ozoluwa,
Izebuwa,
Ogbelaka,
Izedomen
, Osakpalor,
Esigie,
Igbinadolor,
Osalohua,
Osamewanmen,
Ebor,


Dike,
Ochei,
Ezenwani,
Isinyemeze.


Ugbodu people are Yoruba speaking people that migrated into Anioma from Ondo area.
Notice how the names of their kings were initially Yoruba when they arrived the Anioma area, and gradually turned to Edo coinciding with the period of Edo renaissance and when Bini empire was at it's peak.

These kings were still Olukumi speaking and descendants of the ones with Yoruba names, but took on Edo names to curry favour from Bini empire.

When Bini empire fell, the Igbo renaissance started, the Igbo Union grew in leaps and bounds, so the Olukumi speaking Ugbodu kings started borrowing the Igbo names of their Enu-ani neighbors, and this had continued till today, as Anioma continues to evolve into an Igbo enclave.

But notice in all these evolution, the Ugbodu Olukumi Yoruboid language had remained, indicating that language is a better indicator of true origin than names.

Igbo speaking Anioma clans have no other language other their Igbo dialects, indicating Igbo origin, despite many Bini sounding names acquired voluntarily or by force during Bini empire renaissance or during their stay in Bini.


Excellent post. Thank you for educating me about the origins of my surname; now that I think about it, your explanation makes so much sense considering who my family is. I won't allow foreigners to come and tell me that I am not Igbo- can you imagine the cheek of it!

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:31pm On Sep 15, 2016
realkingqueen:
lol,you Yoruba's can be really funny,pls what's so great about your Yoruba tribe??
yoruba r so great that they accommodate refugees of millions of ibos or igbos of which many of them now speak yorubas and assimilated yoruba's culture....

Yorubas are d greatest sister

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:33pm On Sep 15, 2016
stonemasonn:
Haba baby gal Yorubas are only interested with your girls Honestly they don't know the difference between Igbo and Delta Igbos.
Omo you fine no be small. tongue
thanks smiley
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:36pm On Sep 15, 2016
Drchristian:

yoruba r so great that they accommodate refugees of millions of ibos or igbos of which many of them now speak yorubas and assimilated yoruba's culture....

Yorubas are d greatest sister
did you just say refugees??..I give up,won't even dare arguing with you

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:41pm On Sep 15, 2016
realkingqueen:
well dumb people always think they make sense,so I don't blame you..I'm used to seeing stupid people on here but yours is really disturbing and please stop with the you're pretty comment cos that's stale,to think that's the only sensible comment you made even when its not needed shows how stupid you are.asshole
oh...you dont get..me saying "you're pretty" doesnt mean im using it as a pick up line ..i'm trying to re-ignite your already extinguished self esteem..bt its quite unfortunate that you lack the mental capacity to decipher an easily understandable statement....i'm trying to pull you out of the pit you put yourself into bt the more i try ..the deeper you get...i will engage you nomore# cheers... tongue
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:43pm On Sep 15, 2016
samyomz:
oh...you dont get..me saying "you're pretty" doesnt mean im using it as a pick up line ..i'm trying to re-ignite your already extinguished self esteem..bt its quite unfortunate that you lack the mental capacity to decipher an easily understandable statement....i'm trying to pull you out of the pit you put yourself into bt the more i try ..the deeper you get...i will engage you nomore# cheers... tongue
...extinguished self esteem??lol dude bye

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by OdenigboAroli(m): 8:47pm On Sep 15, 2016
Nahwao:
Why are you wasting your time?

Nigerians owe Igbos reparations for being killed in mass numbers over acts perpretrated by Niger Deltans, Yorubas and Aniomas.

Simple. This is a fact that I don't care to hide anymore.

You think you are smart but you better shut your rotten brain. You sound like a chained ffooll with severe beating to the head. Nice effort in trying to instigate a fight between Southeast Igbos and Delta Igbos.



Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Ngozi123(f): 8:47pm On Sep 15, 2016
Shym3xx:


Lol. My bad. But posted this on the first page:



There's nothing to be ashamed of if you're a descendant of Igbo slaves. At that point in history, despite the fact that Igbos had a huge population - they all lived separately in different hamlets in the forest, hence it was easy for just anyone with a decent army to raid anywhere in Igboland and capture as many slaves as possible.

Anyway, I only came to post a comment on the thread based on my relations. But ya brothers dragged me into it like they always do, due to emotional impulses and their effeminate temperament. Hence I decided to wear the history tutor jacket I took off time ago, to give them a proper history lesson lool. Apart from my Itsekiri cousins - I don't care for Delta. Hopefully, they ingested the knowledge I kicked on this thread in good faith. grin

Instead of you to just admit to your mistake and move on, you're here trying to justify yourself.
Take a good look at the bolded:
As someone who actually has ancestral ties to the Aniomas in Delta State

This does not mean that I'm from Delta State. There are Anioma people in Anambra State as well as other areas of Igboland. Bini soldiers have never stepped foot in Igboland so how on earth could they have captured slaves from there? The relationship between my people and the Bini was a cordial and a mutually beneficial one.

Like I said, don't involve yourself in matters that do not concern you or matters of which you are ignorant.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:48pm On Sep 15, 2016
realkingqueen:
did you just say refugees??..I give up,won't even dare arguing with you
yes d yoruba nation has done more than u can reciprocate 4 igbos and Nigeria but still some of u r ungrateful, parasitic and refuse to acknowledge dat...come here and see for yourself. maybe u even live in d west like ur people sef.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:50pm On Sep 15, 2016
realkingqueen:
...extinguished self esteem??lol dude bye
grin...i was just kidding tho...sorry for the insults....we yorubas dont insult anyhow ...some of my very loyal friends are flat heads so i have noting against u guys
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by iamord(m): 8:51pm On Sep 15, 2016
papparatzzi2013:


Revisionist. Yorubas in Togo are not slaves. Yorubas never lost any war.

We conquered the Ewe and Fons in Benin Republic and Togo, down to the Ashanti Kingdom of Ghana.

They were all paying tributaries to Alaafin, the Emperor of that time and all conquered lands made yoruba language their official language.
easy with the lies bro wink

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by OdenigboAroli(m): 8:52pm On Sep 15, 2016
Ngozi123:


Instead of you to just admit to your mistake and move on, you're here trying to justify yourself.
Take a good look at the bolded:


This does not mean that I'm from Delta State. There are Anioma people in Anambra State as well as other areas of Igboland. Bini soldiers have never stepped foot in Igboland so how on earth could they have captured slaves from there? The relationship between my people and the Bini was a cordial and mutually beneficial one.

Like I said, don't involve yourself in matters that do not concern you or matters of which you are ignorant.

Why are you exchanging words with an inferior?
Can't you see how he keep screaming slaves everywhere like a mad dog that he is. He is suffering from numerous beatings he got from Igbo guys years ago. A man with low self esteem will never be at peace with himself...lol

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:53pm On Sep 15, 2016
cremedelacreme:
Nice write up. Igbo is Igbo. From Igbanke to Ihiala, Ahoada to Arochukwu, Oguta to Oba, Ezza to Etche. there is nothing like ''Delta Igbo'' or ''Main Igbo'.


Meanwhile....
grin grin grin grin
what are you trying to insinuate? What's wrong with awa sup? Be kiafu oo. If you no kip kuayet dia undecided
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
Igboid:


Are many Yorubas ancestrally Yorubas?

Are the Ijebus not Sudanese descendants? Is Oduduwa not a Bini Prince?

Is Lagos dynasty no longer of Bini ancestry?
Are most Oyo people not Nupes who conquered Katunga and assimilated into the Yoruba groups there? Are half of those Yoruba speaking Kwarans no longer Hausa and Fulani people that conquered those places, but were still overwhelmed by the indigenous population, so much that they had to assimilate and today speak and answer Yoruba names?

What's this fascination of Nigerians with everything Igbo. Are there any ethnic group on earth that is 100% homogeneous and don't incorporate non ethnic neighboring migrant societies who become assimilated into their host language and culture?
Oduduwa is never a bini prince but a yoruba man, Ogiso kings of Bini were all yorubas, oyo people migrated frm Ife, Bini people and d akoko edos.. migrated frm Ife #fact

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by realkingqueen(f): 8:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
samyomz:
oh...you dont get..me saying "you're pretty" doesnt mean im using it as a pick up line ..i'm trying to re-ignite your already extinguished self esteem..bt its quite unfortunate that you lack the mental capacity to decipher an easily understandable statement....i'm trying to pull you out of the pit you put yourself into bt the more i try ..the deeper you get...i will engage you nomore# cheers... tongue
you know nothing about my self esteem..do you think someone like me would ever I mean ever have self esteem issues??matter of fact if you know me,you would think I'm too proud..dude bye,i have wasted so much of my precious time already,time i would have invested into something productive.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by ezeagu(m): 8:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
Most Nigerians are ignorant in varying degrees, Igbo peoples own mumu is that they take state boundaries as tribal boundaries. An Igbo person can demarcate themselves to the family level because there's not proper foothold for unity. Unless you can make people understand state boundaries are just that, and that so call geopolitical zones are just that, you will continue to have people displaying all kinds of ignorance.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by OdenigboAroli(m): 8:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
Drchristian:

yes d yoruba nation has done more than u can reciprocate 4 igbos and Nigeria but still some of u r ungrateful, parasitic and refuse to acknowledge dat...come here and see for yourself. maybe u even live in d west like ur people sef.

You shouldn't be proud of the education you got because it hasn't helped you in any way...You remain a less human because you thinking capacity is in -0.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Ngozi123(f): 8:56pm On Sep 15, 2016
OdenigboAroli:


Why are you exchanging words with an inferior?
Can't you see how he keep screaming slaves everywhere like a mad dog that he is. He is suffering from numerous bearings he got from Igbo guys years ago. A man with low self esteem will never be at peace with himself...lol

I apologise. I only wanted to clarify to everyone here that I am not from Delta State, just in case someone tries to accuse me of lying about my heritage.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 8:58pm On Sep 15, 2016
realkingqueen:
you know nothing about my self esteem..do you think someone like me would ever I mean ever have self esteem issues??matter of fact if you know me,you would think I'm too proud..dude bye,i have wasted so much of my precious time already,time i would have invested into something productive.
lol bye...i have already apologized tho..
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by OdenigboAroli(m): 9:03pm On Sep 15, 2016
Ngozi123:


I apologise. I only wanted to clarify to everyone here that I am not from Delta State, just in case someone tries to accuse me of lying about my heritage.

Nne,there is no need for apologies.
I just want to sensitize you about that eidiot you are dealing with and let you know how to deal with people like that. Great him like a dog sshhit...Stop being classy like most Igbo women because Yoruba people don't understand that language. Their women behave like street urchins that what they are used to. Daalu,rinne.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by ezeagu(m): 9:04pm On Sep 15, 2016
This is one of the advantages of having a centralised society like the Yoruba and Hausa or Fulani. Nobody can deny being a descendant of a particular king or kingdom in Yoruba land, but in Igbo land you have thousands of petty tribes. Whereas you have a large area like Adamawa as a subsection of the Fulani or Ekiti or Ijebu as a subsection for the Yoruba, you have thousands of villages and towns who have strong separate identities in Igboland and a lack of a collective identity is one of the disadvantages of this set up, although there are advantages over the centralised outlook.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by ezeagu(m): 9:05pm On Sep 15, 2016
Furthermore, it's only in Igboland you hear such things as Anambrarian, Abian, Imolite, Delta Ibo, etc. Other parts of the country are not stuck on states as they are on a collective identity unlike the Igbo.

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Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Nobody: 9:05pm On Sep 15, 2016
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Please you don't see the multitudes of insults we receive from these people and we continue to kiss their butt?

If you like abuse me! Igbos have been unjustly wronged in this God forsaken country and we are spat on by the people who put us in this predicament in the first place?

F***k being nice and being a coward like some of you core SE igbos!
Re: Igbo Vs Delta-Igbo: What A Guy Posted On Facebook by Shym3xx: 9:06pm On Sep 15, 2016
Ngozi123:

Instead of you to just admit to your mistake and move on, you're here trying to justify yourself.
Take a good look at the bolded:

This does not mean that I'm from Delta State. There are Anioma people in Anambra State as well as other areas of Igboland. Bini soldiers have never stepped foot in Igboland so how on earth could they have captured slaves from there? The relationship between my people and the Bini was a cordial and a mutually beneficial one.

Like I said, don't involve yourself in matters that do not concern you or matters of which you are ignorant.

Oh, shut up. If you claim you have ancestral ties to a place, doesn't that mean you're from there? Don't play semantics with.

And I was going to stop posting on the thread, but the fact that you opened ya ignorant mouth to chat shitt with the aid of ya fingers is the reason why I'll post these excerpts below:

The limits of the Ibo country have now been approxi-
mately defined, and the territory apportioned into dis-
tricts. A network of Government stations has been
established, and trading and missionary interests shew
evidence of vigorous prosperity. The Ibos are distributed
over the greater part of the Central Province of the Pro-
tectorate and number about four millions, i.e., probably
half the total population of Southern Nigeria.

In the Delta districts, and especially in the neighbour-
hood of Bonny and other coast towns, they are not in-
digenous. They consist chiefly of slaves under the control
of " Heads of Houses." These slaves often outnumber
the original inhabitants, and their language is of such
vitality that " Bonny Ibo " predominates over the other
dialects of the district.


https://archive.org/stream/amongibosofniger00basd/amongibosofniger00basd_djvu.txt

This is an account from British explorers in 1900 and according to them, Igbos were slaves all over the Delta districts and the outnumber the original inhabitants. grin

Swallow the humble pie and accept you're wrong. Don't let me post more damning academic proofs.

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