ogorwyne:

Fratermathy let's talk about the Orogun people. I just want to know, a friend from that town claims they are not Urhobos neither are they Ukwuani. They speak my language Ukwuani, and whenever I say they speak Ukwuani she says the language is Orogun. Meaning the people of Orogun speak 'Orogun'. U seem to know a lot, what tribal group do the Orogun people fall under?

The people of Orogun have Urhobo patrilineal ancestry and Ukwuani matrilineal ancestry. The name of the community itself is that of their mother, an Ukwuani. Most of the Orogun people are bilinguals who speak both Urhobo and Ukwuani fluently. Some are even trilinguals and have added Isoko to their arsenal.

However, for all intents, purposes, and clarifications, Orogun people are URHOBOS. Their language is not even a separate dialect but falls under the Ughelli general dialect. They are one of the clans that make up Urhoboland.

I am follow dey dia

Orogun are urhobos. Orogun was a son of the founding father of urhobo "Oghwoghwa". They speak very pure urhobo dialect. Orogun have some villages which share boundary with some ukwuani villages. Your friend might be from one of those towns.

ogorwyne:

Fratermathy let's talk about the Orogun people. I just want to know, a friend from that town claims they are not Urhobos neither are they Ukwuani. They speak my language Ukwuani, and whenever I say they speak Ukwuani she says the language is Orogun. Meaning the people of Orogun speak 'Orogun'. U seem to know a lot, what tribal group do the Orogun people fall under?

for me I am finished
I can't speak so well
I understand but not all
it's crazy if I marry another tribe I may just watch the mother of my kids teach them her language
even my Yoruba suck

I grew up in festac in the 80s and little was done to force us to learn urohobo
my dad and mum tried but it didn't just stick

so my kids won't learn any language from me unless I go and dump dem in the village

I'm guilty of this.
I can't even speak the Urhobo language.
Not good at all.

Chanchit:
Truth be told, this thread no consign me.

like it cannot consign idiot like u

fratermathy:


The people of Orogun have Urhobo patrilineal ancestry and Ukwuani matrilineal ancestry. The name of the community itself is that of their mother, an Ukwuani. Most of the Orogun people are bilinguals who speak both Urhobo and Ukwuani fluently. Some are even trilinguals and have added Isoko to their arsenal.

However, for all intents, purposes, and clarifications, Orogun people are URHOBOS. Their language is not even a separate dialect but falls under the Ughelli general dialect. They are one of the clans that make up Urhoboland.

I don't know about their history sha. I used to think Ukwuani language infiltrated into Orogun because they have same boundaries with some Ukwuani communities.

Thanks for ur reply.

Oh good,

joshjaro:

like it cannot consign idiot like u

I think you are the only idiot around cos you joined NL since 2015, 11 comments, 5 of the comments were single alphabets A orJ, the remaining useless comments were on football threads.

I'm Yoruba, so if I say the thread no consign me, its because e no consign me.

soliddust2020:
Orogun are urhobos. Orogun was a son of the founding father of urhobo "Oghwoghwa". They speak very pure urhobo dialect. Orogun have some villages which share boundary with some ukwuani villages. Your friend might be from one of those towns.

Thank you. The boundary thing is what I have in mind. Calling Orogun a language is what seems funny to me.

Chanchit:
Truth be told, this thread no consign me.

i disagree with you

I trust my Yoruba people. Even when we speak English, we insert Yoruba into it to form YoruEnglish. E.g Oya, let us come and be going o.

stepaz:
i disagree with you

I just replied a guy, but at least you didnt insult me while you disgree.

I agree fully, infact when I heard my language Igbo would soon go into extinction ah.. I retraced my step I have vigorously learnt Igbo and I preach it like the gospel, and the saying is true, I reside in Lagos majority of the igbos found,are too shy or ashamed to speak the language cos they think English is posh and the feel educated or more literate that those who speak their native language.

LorDBolton:


Smh. See delusion? Igbos that do not even know their history telling us OUR own history? If not cos it's 2016 you will even claim igbos 'own' lagos that many of your ancestors settled here. Mtcheeew

The fact u cannot distinguish between a settlement and owners of a land shows you even a kid who wasn't well groomed.

Even the obi of onithsa cannot open his mouth to say this crap... only GOD can punish the white men who came and released you guys from the captivity oyo, benin and other hausa kingdoms have subjected ya'll to.

Core igbos are black... go and find out the history of the fair skinned ones (they started popping up when the whites came guess u already know y)

I hate dumb peeps.. he commented with historical facts and evident, y not prove him wrong with your own facts and not allow your hatred for igbos to control u.. at the end saying trash

It's sad. The only thing my dad thought me was migwo, but would flare up when i speak my mum's language(asaba igbo)
The most annoying part is when he speaks fluently with his sibling. Am guessing they all decided not to teach their children. Even pidgen na small wahala if we speak am.

Fratermathy Our parents re d problem, They don't Teach Us our language, The only way u know am Urhobo is my name.. Can't speak It.. Lolz..

Pidggin:
Lol, OP deal with it. I need a language that I can speak and understand when I enter Delta, Cross River, Edo, Akwa ibom , etc. Which one should I pick out of all the languages spoken in these states? PIDGIN wins

Imagine someone above saying Akwa ibom and Cross River have Igbo affiliation. I don't know why you guys are so insecure, it seems your five States are not okay for you hence you want to encroach, it will never happen.

Isn't this true though? I mean there is a town called Arochukwu.

I know most Nigerians aren't fond of Igbos but come on now.

Nahwao:


Isn't this true though? I mean there is a town called Arochukwu.

I know most Nigerians aren't fond of Igbos but come on now.

It is Arochukwu that has influences from Akwa-Cross in its culture.
Because Arochukwu culture is not the same as Igbo culture.

Jeez you salty Niger Deltans. How can Igbos be neighbors to you guys but share ZERO historical affinity or blood?

Yeah it's ok to have your separate identity but chillax.

just urhobo?

let's not even start with various almost extinct languages in the middle belt aka north central.

I was shocked to know that there are various tribes in Kaduna and plateau states with thier unique languages, but go there today, everyone speaks Hausa!!!

Thank God the Hausa language did not have so much influence in my state. if not.....

LKO:
Quite an educative piece. But I'm taken aback with the claim that Uvwie and Okpe have less than a thousand speaker, is this not an exaggeration stretched too far?

Less than a thousand speaker ? Thats a big lie.. although Uvwie Is far loosing Its language but that ur claim its not true.. The reason is that we Accept Strangers alot and as a result we don't speak our language with strangers like the yoruba's do.

Our parents re d problem.. if i speak my Urhobo en .. u go laugh

YonkijiSappo:


It is Arochukwu that has influences from Akwa-Cross in its culture.
Because Arochukwu culture is not the same as Igbo culture.

Arochukwu identifies as Igbo now and also neighboring Igbo and Akwa-Cross environs there are intermixed.

Please stop overly dissociating yourselves.

Urhobo Wadooooooooooooo

247Dior:
I hate dumb peeps.. he commented with historical facts and evident, y not prove him wrong with your own facts and not allow your hatred for igbos to control u.. at the end saying trash

Don't mind the F00L,I thought he had something to say until the NITWIT started blabbering about Core Igbos being black and their fairness being due to Europeans,as if white skin is the only difference between a black and a white man..

Nahwao:


Arochukwu identifies as Igbo now and also neighboring Igbo and Akwa-Cross environs there are intermixed.

Please stop overly dissociating yourselves.

You are not getting the point.
If you go to arochukwu now for example, what you will see is Arochukwu culture which is quite distinct from other Igbo cultures, due to the significant amount of Ibibio-ish fusion into their culture. On the other hand, If any such opposite influence exist in Akwa Ibom state, how then can you call it Igbo influences if it comes just from Arochukwu. Arochukwu had an Ibibio foundation.... whereas Ibibios don't have an Igbo foundation.

Kowor:
It's sad. The only thing my dad thought me was migwo, but would flare up when i speak my mum's language(asaba igbo)
The most annoying part is when he speaks fluently with his sibling. Am guessing they all decided not to teach their children. Even pidgen na small wahala if we speak am.

I have a classmate who is Urhobo but has an Igbo mother. Like you she is more fluent in Igbo than Urhobo. She could even speak some Nsukka Igbo. Her 2 elder sisters married Igbo guys, and she plans to marry an Igbo guy too. She strongly feels more connected to her Igbo side than her Urhobo side.

YonkijiSappo:


You are not getting the point.
If you go to arochukwu now for example, what you will see is Arochukwu culture which is quite distinct from other Igbo cultures, due to the significant amount of Ibibio-ish fusion into their culture. On the other hand, If any such opposite influence exist in Akwa Ibom state, how then can you call it Igbo influences if it comes just from Arochukwu. Arochukwu had an Ibibio foundation.... whereas Ibibios don't have an Igbo foundation.

On what basis can you conclude that ibibios especially those living around Arochukwu have ZERO influence from Igbos?

Na wa for una.

Same way those in Rivers and Delta have ZERO influence from Igbos and only Igbos are influenced by others?

Some of these conversations lmao.

Fratermathy, please write Books for schoolchildren in urhobo and Okpe. I promise you I will not only support you with my little financial contribution, I will raise funds for getting them published. Write books and write a dictionary. Get others involved. Have someone organise classes for language and culture studies targeting the young ones. Just keep me in the loop.

YonkijiSappo:


You are not getting the point.
If you go to arochukwu now for example, what you will see is Arochukwu culture which is quite distinct from other Igbo cultures, due to the significant amount of Ibibio-ish fusion into their culture. On the other hand, If any such opposite influence exist in Akwa Ibom state, how then can you call it Igbo influences if it comes just from Arochukwu. Arochukwu had an Ibibio foundation.... whereas Ibibios don't have an Igbo foundation.

Also at the very least the existence of Arochukwu nullifies the statement from that lady i quoted who said that Akwa-Cross had no "Affiliation" with Igbo. Dead wrong.

Efewestern:
Fratermathy Our parents re d problem, They don't Teach Us our language, The only way u know am Urhobo is my name.. Can't speak It.. Lolz..

Same story everywhere. Even for those who grew up in Delta state. It's too bad. I speak the little I know to my 15 month old baby. I'm planning on joining my mother's socio-cultural group to learn my language, in a few years' time.