KanwuliaExtra:


Was the Holy Ghost abstinent even without marriage?

Is SEX not part of KNOWING somebody?
Why should it be THE DEFINING FACTOR IN A RELATIONSHIP FOR ANYONE?

Dis nor be Adam and Eve era o!

Hmmmmm! Do as I say Religion, not as I do!

Even the [b]Poor Yusuf([/b]Mr. Mary) never even saw Mary's underwIre! Yet a Saviour was born ever so ejaculately! The ODE husband was the only ABSTINENT MUMU for sure!

Irony of hypocrisy!

Dun even get me started! I dun like Religious Dummies!

Is this what an ex muslima looks like?

MsGlobalwonder:


not true...

Please ring it in Seun's ears.

doskie:


Can someone please tell me more about this name I always see on nl.... Lalasticlala. Is he a real person or just a lizard?

Na you talk am oh!

lilyqueen:



It's a personal question

Please tell him that the OP is not about virginity it's about preaching abstinence before marriage.

florencepoko2:


Abstinence before marriage is possible for very young (17, 18 see 20). Beyond this age it is very difficult, they masturbate, which is also a sin I think. To observe this principle, it must be married early.

I believe it's all about discipline and faith.

tosinjay:


Oga seun can lie o, all in a bid to discredit Christians, that there are no true ones. If the bible says abstain then it must be obeyed. There are those who abstain and they are those who try to be unlike hypocrites. In this your post you just labeled everyone as hypocrites. Meanwhile a living witness is present here. Baba make you dey do this thing small small na. Haba.

Obedience is the key. Good job.

frubben:


How about the mind, the few might have visualize it one way or the other. And according to the bible that ........?

That's true. Some folks do sexting and thereby pollute their minds. This cannot qualify as abstinence it is still adultery of the mind.

orisa37:


Abstinence means don't touch that fruit at the Centre of the Garden until I say so. It's no longer Hypocrisy that we abstain, but continued Disobedience and outright flouting of the laws of Care, as in love yourselves as I love you that we don't abstain. Abstinence is Discipline to avoid insatiable rush and recklessness to crush Time. Time therefore, is the Essence of The Word that was with God at the Beginning. Abstinence is a Word of God. And I know that Atheists won't like that.

I agree with you that obedience to God's Word is the key and discipline and faith by God's grace will keep us through.

aboveonly:
A thought provoking question...please find below my take (Christian perpective).

"Is Abstinence Before Marriage A Realistic Message?"

Yes and No

Yes, to those that are really the children of God (truly born-again, John 1:12), and are focused on obeying God's Word, (I.e., the Bible). Sometimes they are exposed to sexual-related temptations, but because their innermost desire is to please God, the grace to escape helps them out.

No, because the Word of God does not make any sense or meaning to any mortal man except that fellow allow the Holy Spirit to re-format the fellow's mind by the instrumentality of the Word of God. (Romans 12:1-2)

"Many people are going to have sex anyway, so why bother even teaching?"

"Many people" is not everybody. And just because some people are not adhering to this godly counsel doesn't mean people are not obeying. The Bible says that we can do nothing against the truth but for the truth. And since the Word of God says marriage is honourable in all and that the future marital bed should not be defiled, hence God would judge (Hebrews 13:4) and so, it should be taught.

Look at this scenerio:if you are presented with an unripe orange to eat/take, and very certain my brother that you would reject it. Why? Because it is unripe and the taste being acidic and sour would destroy your taste but and ultimately every other good you have love to eat. So why not take the unripe orange anyway since orange is a good nutritious fruit and people would always want to take it.

Check my signature, I have a detailed write up on this topic..

This is a brilliant response to the OP. Way to go!

aboveonly:


"Many in the modern culture have declared that sexual morality is dead, that abstinence isn't realistic but it is instead old-fashioned and outraged!"

Seriously, who are the "many" that have made such declaration as you pointed out. Many of such "many" personalities have died. So why should we base out destiny and well being on such declaration that has no foundation? (and does not last). The Bible refers to such declaration as "grass" and "flowers" that does not last and the Bible says, " ...yes all people are like grass. Grass dies and wildflowers fall. But the Word of our God continues forever." (Isaiah 40: 9 -8, Easy-To-Read Bible Version.).

A wise child of God would pitch his/her tent with such proclamations from the Word of God. To build one's life around the declaration of mere mortal men no matter how brilliant, is asking for trouble (as we can witness with the troubles in most marriages today).

Listen carefully to this:

" In Christ all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are safely kept...I tell you these things so that no person can fool you by telling you ideas that seem good but are false. Be sure that no person leads you away with false ideas and words that mean nothing. Those ideas are worthless ideas of people in the world." (Colossians 2:3,4,8. Easy-to-read Bible version )

And lastly, you asked: "Is abstinence before marriage even reasonable in today's hook-up culture?"

Bros, for peace to reign in our lives (including marriages ) we MUST adjust to the instructional manual of The Manufacturer (God Almighty), which the Word of God and not the other way round.

No matter the "hook-up culture" that you pointed out, abstinence before marriage is reasonable and healthy because the Word of God support it.

In conclusion, irrespective of what the "many" might have said or are saying, sex before marriage is not beautiful. HUMANS CANNOT FIND TRUE JOY BY BREAKING GOD'S LAW.

Marriage is not just a good idea; it is God's idea and for us to enjoy it and be fulfilled, we must take side with God's Word and not man.

Check my signature: by His grace I wrote extensively on this subject called abstinence from sex before marriage

Stay blessed and prosperous in Jesus name.

Splendid. We need you to be more active on the religion section which will be a burst of fresh air to many of us. Bravo!

brosci:


op u are a fool. if u are a loose cannon dat does not mean everyone is like u. i am 20. and have never done the madness u tink is normal to u. grow up

You are welcome to Matthew 5:22

"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell"

— Matthew 5:22

onionsoup:


You can hear it all offline

How?

themall:


No 1: Deeper Life Christian Ministry

Is this the only ministry teaching abstinence? There must be others.

sparkleboy:


Abstinence is the best and most reasonable way

Why is that so?

yinkhar:


it is easy for ladies to abstain. Most of d guys saying it, i wish i can meet one of u cos out here is diff....99% of guys want sex




its annoying

Is it not because most ladies give in easily?

Fkhalifa:


sisi you were only fortunate to have been biologically made up that way, had it been you came as a man, you would have understood how uneasy to abstain from even mere hugging and other current taps

Just thank God for your gender,even the religious and the disciplined battles it secretly.

Does that mean most of the so call brothers in many of these pentecostal churches are actually burning inside and committing sin when they hug?

OLAADEGBU:


Does that mean most of the so call brothers in many of these pentecostal churches are actually burning inside and committing sin when they hug?

oh yes, They are human before any religion, religion can't tamper nature to eat,dink,sleep and sex...not many will come out and tell you the truth, everyone is protecting his image,only few get exposed...They are either secretly fornicating, masturbating or burning inside... Only few have low libido and indifferent towards sex...

I dont call hugging a sin in my book.

OLAADEGBU:


Na you talk am oh!

honestly speaking I'm very confused. I think about it every night and day. I'm almost depressed.

OLAADEGBU:


What do you mean being close minded? How and why do you think I was close minded?

What are your views on Islam as a religion?

OLAADEGBU:


Is this the only ministry teaching abstinence? There must be others.

the rest only pay lip service, spineless enforcement..

Thank you Sir.

OLAADEGBU:
"Is abstinence before marriage a realistic message?" Most people are going to have sex anyway, so why bother even teaching abstinence?

Many in the modern culture have declared that sexual morality is dead, that abstinence isn't realistic, but it is instead old-fashioned and outdated. Is abstinence before marriage even reasonable in today's "hook-up culture"?

My own message is be free and be yourself. Be in total Self-Control. That's all. Learn Yourself, and be in total Control of Yourself, that's my definition of Purity. "Understand and Control" doesn't mean following a list of Rules or a set of laws though. That would be otherwise the case.

charix:


What are your views on Islam as a religion?

Islam is the world's youngest major world religion and its adherents which are over 1 billion believe that their deity is allah and Muhammad is his messenger. From inception in 622 Islam was an aggressively missionary-oriented religion using military force to spread the religion far and wide. The Qu'ran is their manual which guides them for their day to day living.

For more on Islam see the following threads:

https://www.nairaland.com/3322845/chronology-early-islam

themall:


the rest only pay lip service, spineless enforcement..

They should realise that they owe their congregation to teach the truth in word and deed.

orisa37:


Thank you Sir.

You are welcome.

pr0blem:


My own message is be free and be yourself. Be in total Self-Control. That's all. Learn Yourself, and be in total Control of Yourself, that's my definition of Purity. "Understand and Control" doesn't mean following a list of Rules or a set of laws though. That would be otherwise the case.

You better be sure that your message is realistic and true.

doskie:


honestly speaking I'm very confused. I think about it every night and day. I'm almost depressed.

Please don't be depressed.

Fkhalifa:


oh yes, They are human before any religion, religion can't tamper nature to eat,dink,sleep and sex...not many will come out and tell you the truth, everyone is protecting his image,only few get exposed...They are either secretly fornicating, masturbating or burning inside... Only few have low libido and indifferent towards sex...

I dont call hugging a sin in my book.

How will hugging help those who are already having a problem controlling themselves when it comes to the opposite sex?

OLAADEGBU:


Lies of the devil.

I hope this is not coming late. I have been indisposed for a while now. Concerning the topic above. You termed my comment as lies of the devil. Please. kindly read 1corinthians 7 v 36. Not my word pls. How much do you know about the Bible

abbeyfel:


I hope this is not coming late. I have been indisposed for a while now.

Sorry to hear that please accept my empathy and I wish you speedy recovery in Jesus' name.

abbeyfel:


Concerning the topic above. You termed my comment as lies of the devil. Please. kindly read 1corinthians 7 v 36. Not my word pls. How much do you know about the Bible

That verse was in reference to the virgin's father who normally determines when and who his daughter would marry. Read verse 38 which says:

"So then he that gives her in marriage does well; but he that gives her not in marriage does better".

OLAADEGBU:


"Is abstinence before marriage a realistic message?" Most people are going to have sex anyway, so why bother even teaching abstinence?

Many in the modern culture have declared that sexual morality is dead, that abstinence isn't realistic, but it is instead old-fashioned and outdated. Is abstinence before marriage even reasonable in today's "hook-up culture"?

Suggested answer:

Higher Everyday
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2016

VIRGIN TILL MARRIAGE VOWS

"For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee" (Isaiah 62: 5)

Is virginity still in vogue? A popular Nigerian blog threw the question open for public debate. The responses and reactions, as expected, were mixed. While some maintained that it was still fashionable to maintain virginity till marriage, others felt that virginity belonged to an era long gone and forgotten. With the crass immorality in the media and blatant permissiveness of the society, it is hard to obtain chastity from today's youngsters.

A young Indian bride recently admitted that her newly-wedded husband expressed disappointment and dismay when he discovered that she was still a virgin! But listen to the voice of wisdom, young folk. Virginity was and still is a divine command. It is a precious gift to keep and treasure. It gives you confidence, sense of self-worth and feeling of innocence. Many of your peers and mates who have lost their virginity may jeer at you and wish to give you the impression that it is no big deal, but deep down, it hurts them that they've lost it.

My son, my daughter, Keep pure!

• Challenge: "Secretly, your peers regret their loss of virginity"

• Prayer: "I need your grace to keep my virginity, dear Lord"

• Quote: "Virginity's a divine command"

• Further Reading: 2 Corinthians 11:1, 2

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brosci:


op u are a fool. if u are a loose cannon dat does not mean everyone is like u. i am 20. and have never done the madness u tink is normal to u. grow up

Good for you but why would you jump to the conclusion that am an loose cannon?