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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 9:39pm On Oct 03, 2016
Seelurd:


Sir, will you believe me if I say to you that all my research , personal believes,lectures here and there have not match 10percent of this doctrine? Will you believe?

Like you said, I shouldn't be bias which am not. But I think, to some extent, the brain can identify what seems to be true or false right. Bros even if you claim you are not under religion and you admit the doctrine been well written, then what's your bases for that and your research. This man is doing a wonderful job here. FYI, I have so many questions for Otem which he has answered some without me asking him and he didn't even know the question while some are still reserved.

The search for knowledge is very key and must be done intellectually. I respect your way of handling matters but try and see outside any form of religion cos I find it difficult to believe you are not been dogmatic.

like I said Otem is doing a wonderful job. If this guy is saying rubbish as some people have claimed, I guess I need to respect wherever the rubbish is coming from because it's just too great, greater than what religion preaches. Peace cool

i said earlier.... the fact that a lie is properly organised doesn't make it true

the human brain takes what makes more sense to it until it sees something that makes more sense. the doctrine made sense until i saw something that made more sense in my research.

do ur research with an unbiased mind. don't choose something just because it makes sense to you. study it.. make sure it is the truth and not just a well arranged lie..

even if the truth is scattered it still remains the truth

God bless
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 9:56pm On Oct 03, 2016
Seelurd:


Sir, will you believe me if I say to you that all my research , personal believes,lectures here and there have not match 10percent of this doctrine? Will you believe?

Like you said, I shouldn't be bias which am not. But I think, to some extent, the brain can identify what seems to be true or false right. Bros even if you claim you are not under religion and you admit the doctrine been well written, then what's your bases for that and your research. This man is doing a wonderful job here. FYI, I have so many questions for Otem which he has answered some without me asking him and he didn't even know the question while some are still reserved.

The search for knowledge is very key and must be done intellectually. I respect your way of handling matters but try and see outside any form of religion cos I find it difficult to believe you are not been dogmatic.

like I said Otem is doing a wonderful job. If this guy is saying rubbish as some people have claimed, I guess I need to respect wherever the rubbish is coming from because it's just too great, greater than what religion preaches. Peace cool

otem is doing a good job at constructing the lies.. nd he is actually good at it.. no i am not dogmatic and i reason outside of religion. otem giving u answers isn't enough to conclude truth... if u check the net for those questions and you don't get answers u can ask me.. i promise to answer to the best of my ability
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 10:20pm On Oct 03, 2016
Wilgrea7:


otem is doing a good job at constructing the lies.. nd he is actually good at it.. no i am not dogmatic and i reason outside of religion. otem giving u answers isn't enough to conclude truth... if u check the net for those questions and you don't get answers u can ask me.. i promise to answer to the best of my ability

OK sir, please help me with few things

1) how do you know Otem words are lies.

2) What makes you so sure that you will say the truth if I ask you the questions Otem answered unknowingly. Or should I say how sure are you that the answer you will give to me is the truth and people won't say what you are currently saying about Otem answers to my question.

Thank you
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 10:26pm On Oct 03, 2016
Wilgrea7:
for me satanic and demonic are similar..
Someone like you will mean Titanic to be same as satanic. And you will even call Dominique Demonic. Maybe I haven't told you before that there's nothing like demon in reality.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 10:45pm On Oct 03, 2016
Seelurd:


OK sir, please help me with few things

1) how do you know Otem words are lies.

2) What makes you so sure that you will say the truth if I ask you the questions Otem answered unknowingly. Or should I say how sure are you that the answer you will give to me is the truth and people won't say what you are currently saying about Otem answers to my question.

Thank you

i know the words are lies because they attack God and say things i only know that contradicts his nature.. I'm not talking of what i read in any book... I'm talking of what i experienced. i am talking of the facts before us.. plus the doctrine is based on some teachings in both Christianity and other religions which are actually twisted against God
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 10:54pm On Oct 03, 2016
Seelurd:


OK sir, please help me with few things

1) how do you know Otem words are lies.

2) What makes you so sure that you will say the truth if I ask you the questions Otem answered unknowingly. Or should I say how sure are you that the answer you will give to me is the truth and people won't say what you are currently saying about Otem answers to my question.

Thank you

like i said earlier... you are free to ask questions and compare and even do a further research.. don't just swallow everything i tell you... find out if its true..

for the fact u want something to be true doesn't qualify it as true.. also , for the fact u want something to be false doesn't qualify it as false..

approach things with an open mind
i am not a know it all
i promise to answer all questions to the best of my knowledge

pls don't be biased
God bless
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 10:56pm On Oct 03, 2016
otemanuduno:
Someone like you will mean Titanic to be same as satanic. And you will even call Dominique Demonic. Maybe I haven't told you before that there's nothing like demon in reality.

oga leave the satanic and demonic similarly abeg.. u know what i was talking about
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 11:03pm On Oct 03, 2016
Otemanuduno
Can you please compile this thing into a book?
Like a PDF or something?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 3:03am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:


you claimed you read and understand the bible... so did i and so did many others who believe hell isn't eternal. so what makes your understanding superior to theirs ?? or do you think they are idiots??

i keep saying the same thing... unbiased analysis... unbiased research

I take the Bible literal and I will never twist any part of it to suit yahweh. Many of us who change our religion did so because we aren't ready to be twisting the Bible every now and then to help our former god in cases where he fvcked up. The rest of you are ready to twist it so that you can help your god and remain his worshippers.

LITTLE WONDER YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST LIARS, JUST LIKE YACOB YOUR MENTOR WHOSE NICKNAME IS "DECEIVER".

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 6:27am On Oct 04, 2016
otemanuduno:


I take the Bible literal and I will never twist any part of it to suit yahweh. Many of us who change our religion did so because we aren't ready to be twisting the Bible every now and then to help our former god in cases where he fvcked up. The rest of you are ready to twist it so that you can help your god and remain his worshippers.

LITTLE WONDER YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST LIARS, JUST LIKE YACOB YOUR MENTOR WHOSE NICKNAME IS "DECEIVER".

again.... for the fact that u take it literal doesn't mean it has to be taken literal.
u cant call a parable false because u took it literally.

you claim you won't twist the bible to suit God... but u twist it to attack him..

this is what I'm saying since... being biased

when you're ready to stop the lies tell me
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 6:51am On Oct 04, 2016
otem i now understand you...

you claim the bible, Koran and Torah etc are satanic books yet u quote from them

you twist scriptures just to insult the alpha and the omega and falsely try to reveal him as a bloodthirsty angry genocidal maniac when i have been clarifying the pictures

like i said earlier... most of those atrocities were not commanded by God but by the leaders and elders of Israel. but you're too hateful to see the truth about God

ok let's take an example

you as the president of a country oversees the country. you have a loving rulership... you elect governors to lead a particular state. you're a good leader.. your governors were leading well... one of them then does or says something that removes the loving system. that doesn't make u a bad president. it makes the governor doing or saying such accountable to you..

that's how it is in the bible

Moses, Joshua , david , and the rest who did those things will be held accountable. every man on earth will be held accountable for his deeds. even your conscience tells you that you are responsible for the things you do

God is an ever loving God
we thank God almighty for Jesus who brought us closer to God because before his coming we were farther away from him but Jesus brought us closer

God is wonderful
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 7:03am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:


again.... for the fact that u take it literal doesn't mean it has to be taken literal.
u cant call a parable false because u took it literally.

you claim you won't twist the bible to suit God... but u twist it to attack him..

this is what I'm saying since... being biased

when you're ready to stop the lies tell me

All the parables Eusebius put into the mouth of jesus are specifically stated as 'parables!'
But when Eusebius put it in the mouth of jesus to talk about hell, he didn't say that it was a parable.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 7:31am On Oct 04, 2016
otemanuduno:


All the parables Eusebius put into the mouth of jesus are specifically stated as 'parables!'
But when Eusebius put it in the mouth of jesus to talk about hell, he didn't say that it was a parable.


wow.. so Eusebius put parables into the mouth of Jesus. wonderful.. so how did Eusebius who lived 324 years after Jesus put parables into his mouth when Jesus lived over 300 years before him?

Eusebius of Caesarea (/ juːˈsiːbiəs/ ;
Greek : Εὐσέβιος, Eusébios ;
AD 260/265 – 339/340), also known as Eusebius Pamphili , was a Greek historian of Christianity, exegete, and
Christian polemicist . He became the
bishop of Caesarea Maritima about 314 AD.

Eusebius was a historian not a parable former

I'm eager to hear your reply...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 7:55am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:
otem i now understand you...

you claim the bible, Koran and Torah etc are satanic books yet u quote from them

you twist scriptures just to insult the alpha and the omega and falsely try to reveal him as a bloodthirsty angry genocidal maniac when i have been clarifying the pictures

like i said earlier... most of those atrocities were not commanded by God but by the leaders and elders of Israel. but you're too hateful to see the truth about God

ok let's take an example

you as the president of a country oversees the country. you have a loving rulership... you elect governors to lead a particular state. you're a good leader.. your governors were leading well... one of them then does or says something that removes the loving system. that doesn't make u a bad president. it makes the governor doing or saying such accountable to you..

that's how it is in the bible

Moses, Joshua , david , and the rest who did those things will be held accountable. every man on earth will be held accountable for his deeds. even your conscience tells you that you are responsible for the things you do

God is an ever loving God
we thank God almighty for Jesus who brought us closer to God because before his coming we were farther away from him but Jesus brought us closer

God is wonderful


You're really wasting time to convince this demon possessed man of Satan...


He has sworn to go against God ever since he was possessed by some kind of demon he calls ''atum''

I don't believe his doctrine, because the scriptures made us to understand that many false doctrine carriers and false prophets shall arise and deceive many...

He doesn't know what he is doing ,but I promise him when he's being delivered, and he looks back at this thread, he will shake his head in pity and wished he never existed..

I've tasted of the power of the one true GOD, YHWH.. I've seen his loving nature and kindness, most merciful and gracious, just but unfair...

No man will deceive me because I know the God whom I serve..He sent his son Jesus to die for us so we may have life and inherit his kingdom...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 7:59am On Oct 04, 2016
pls tell me how many times Jesus said hell is eternal...

firstly the story of the rich man nd Lazarus is a parable like the rest parables

his description of hell i remember was saying "where the fire is not quenched and the worms don't die" ive already explained it cuz i said the fire of God just like the one that destroyed sodom and Gomorrah will not be quenched until it reduces whatever its burning to ashes.. nothing can put out the fire until whatever its burning is totally reduced to ash.

u refused to read the link cuz u claim its satanic.. it explained the things about hell.

eternal fire means fire that is not quenched

eternally destroyed means to be destroyed from existence which is the second death in the lake of fire

my Almighty father isn't a wicked God that will enjoy watching people burn for all of eternity

Jesus is the one who decides the criteria people use to enter heaven
besides... nobody knows the criteria Jesus uses to decide who goes to heaven or not but from what I've seen from all his teachings the criteria would be love.
that is why his said he is the way , truth and life.
God's criteria is pure undefiled holiness which no one has been able to achieve.
Jesus is the one who came to live as a human and was still sinless.. that is why he is called the lamb which was slain. Lamb signifies a pure nd humble person.

he was the one to set a new criteria.... love
he never said he will burn anyone in hell for ever and ever and ever and ever

Thank you
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 8:01am On Oct 04, 2016
Jacksonville:



You're really wasting time to convince this demon possessed man of Satan...


He has sworn to go against God ever since he was possessed by some kind of demon he calls ''atum''

I don't believe his doctrine, because the scriptures made us to understand that many false doctrine carriers and false prophets shall arise and deceive many...

He doesn't know what he is doing ,but I promise him when he's being delivered, and he looks back at this thread, he will shake his head in pity and wished he never existed..

I've tasted of the power of the one true GOD, YHWH.. I've seen his loving nature and kindness, most merciful and gracious, just but unfair...

No man will deceive me because I know the God whom I serve..He sent his son Jesus to die for us so we may have life and inherit his kingdom...

yeah.. you're very very correct..
He feels his doctrine is infallible and true
i came here to expose the lie he's breeding
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 11:46am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:
otem i now understand you...

you claim the bible, Koran and Torah etc are satanic books yet u quote from them


you twist scriptures just to insult the alpha and the omega and falsely try to reveal him as a bloodthirsty angry genocidal maniac when i have been clarifying the pictures


like i said earlier... most of those atrocities were not commanded by God but by the leaders and elders of Israel. but you're too hateful to see the truth about God

ok let's take an example

you as the president of a country oversees the country. you have a loving rulership... you elect governors to lead a particular state. you're a good leader.. your governors were leading well... one of them then does or says something that removes the loving system. that doesn't make u a bad president. it makes the governor doing or saying such accountable to you..

that's how it is in the bible

Moses, Joshua , david , and the rest who did those things will be held accountable. every man on earth will be held accountable for his deeds. even your conscience tells you that you are responsible for the things you do

God is an ever loving God
we thank God almighty for Jesus who brought us closer to God because before his coming we were farther away from him but Jesus brought us closer

God is wonderful
You don't need anybody to tell u that Yaweh was a blood thirsty ethnic cleanser, infanticidal, a boastful jealous control freak maniac...

it is all over the bible but u religious dimwits will never be sincere with yourselves...Yaweh the giver of freewill hardening Pharaoh's heart to kill egyptian babies.


your illustrations are rly laughable, shows that to defend Yaweh isn't easy...
Yaweh is all powerful and perfect, but his prophets are evil.

quite interesting that you seem to agree already that those actions in the bible were evil so u r shifting blame away from Yaweh to his prophets.

But the prophets receive instructions from Yaweh and act according to his desires and those evil laws and act were carried out under his very watch.

Your excuse for yaweh is so lame, it insults intelligence just like the bible.

But it seems u don't knw ur bible well enough that there are uncountable commandments in the bible right from Yaweh to destroy and kill

Also, u haven't explain why Yaweh the supposed God of the universe has a jewish name....
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 11:51am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:

yeah.. you're very very correct.. He feels his doctrine is infallible and true i came here to expose the lie he's breeding
you have been talking of exposing lies... kindly share one lie u have successfully exposed and we'll be glad.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 11:56am On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:

You don't need anybody to tell u that Yaweh was a blood thirsty ethnic cleanser, infanticidal, a boastful jealous control freak maniac...

it is all over the bible but u religious dimwits will never be sincere with yourselves...Yaweh the giver of freewill hardening Pharaoh's heart to kill egyptian babies.


your illustrations are rly laughable, shows that to defend Yaweh isn't easy...
Yaweh is all powerful and perfect, but his prophets are evil.

quite interesting that you seem to agree already that those actions in the bible were evil so u r shifting blame away from Yaweh to his prophets.

But the prophets receive instructions from Yaweh and act according to his desires and those evil laws and act were carried out under his very watch.

Your excuse for yaweh is so lame, it insults intelligence just like the bible.

But it seems u don't knw ur bible well enough that there are uncountable commandments in the bible right from Yaweh to destroy and kill

Also, u haven't explain why Yaweh the supposed God of the universe has a jewish name....



read what i said above... not all of his prophets approved killings..

plus nowhere in the bible did it say God told the elders of israel or moses or Joshua to tell the Israelites to kill.. ure just generalising the whole stuff.

you said there are uncountable verses by God to the Israelites to kill.. I've proven to you that all the verses you quoted wasn't said by God.. i proved that in my previous posts..

if u have any one of a DIRECT order please let me know cuz to be sincere i haven't seen anyone

and again... if u read my illustration about the president and the governor you will understand what I'm talking about

my God isn't bloodthirsty
he is just
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 11:57am On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:

you have been talking of exposing lies... kindly share one lie u have successfully exposed and we'll be glad.
read my comments you will see the lies I've exposed
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 11:57am On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:

yeah.. you're very very correct.. He feels his doctrine is infallible and true i came here to expose the lie he's breeding
you have been talking of exposing lies... kindly share one lie u have successfully exposed and we'll be glad.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 12:01pm On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:



Also, u haven't explain why Yaweh the supposed God of the universe has a jewish name....



God has many names
Eshaddai, elohim, adonai etc.. the jews call him Yahweh
if u noticed I've called him other names in my posts like God almighty and alpha and omega etc
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 12:22pm On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:


read what i said above... not all of his prophets approved killings..

plus nowhere in the bible did it say God told the elders of israel or moses or Joshua to tell the Israelites to kill.. ure just generalising the whole stuff.

you said there are uncountable verses by God to the Israelites to kill.. I've proven to you that all the verses you quoted wasn't said by God.. i proved that in my previous posts..

if u have any one of a DIRECT order please let me know cuz to be sincere i haven't seen anyone

and again... if u read my illustration about the president and the governor you will understand what I'm talking about

my God isn't bloodthirsty
he is just

I don't knw whether u are daft or u just chose to be an hypocrite. What more proof do u want again that Yaweh was an evil blood thirsty control freak

Leviticus 26:27-29
“‘If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me,
then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

1 Samuel 15:1-9
The L ORD Rejects Saul as King
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the
LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD. This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.


pls refer to the bible for more ethnic blood sheds and wickedness of yaweh
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Goddys(m): 12:27pm On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:


I don't knw whether u are daft or u just chose to be an hypocrite. What more proof do u want again that Yaweh was an evil blood thirsty control freak

Leviticus 26:27-29
“‘If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me,
then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

1 Samuel 15:1-9
The L ORD Rejects Saul as King
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the
LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD. This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.


pls refer to the bible for more ethnic blood sheds and wickedness of yaweh
You must be demented. Even lower animals are wiser than you because most of them are afraid of humans seeing us as higher beings. Only a fool like you will not acknowledge his creator.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 12:42pm On Oct 04, 2016
Goddys:
You must be demented. Even lower animals are wiser than you because most of them are afraid of humans seeing us as higher beings. Only a fool like you will not acknowledge his creator.
oops I guess some1 is pained....

u can direct ur anger to the writer of the bible, I never did
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 12:49pm On Oct 04, 2016
Goddys:
You must be demented. Even lower animals are wiser than you because most of them are afraid of humans seeing us as higher beings. Only a fool like you will not acknowledge his creator.

a fool may say in his heart there is no God, but the biggest of fools, you for example who wil never apply brain to think for himself but swallow every lies and fallacies of an ancient book...

away from the insult, mr Goddys the prophet of doom, have u addressed the issue?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 1:07pm On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:


I don't knw whether u are daft or u just chose to be an hypocrite. What more proof do u want again that Yaweh was an evil blood thirsty control freak

Leviticus 26:27-29
“‘If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me,
then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

1 Samuel 15:1-9
The L ORD Rejects Saul as King
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the
LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD. This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.


pls refer to the bible for more blood sheds and wickedness of yaweh


you see exactly what I'm talking about.... thank you for the verses... the first verse is talking about the punishment that will befall the Israelites if they turn away from God. God rescued them from the bondage of the Egyptians and told them not to turn away from him.. God didn't just start punishing them for no reason.. if u read the chapter there were 2 types of punishments

1. was the punishment for turning away from him was that their enemies would overtake them.. this was because if they turn away from him he will turn away from them. God was the only reason the Israelites won their battles. they were not the strongest army or the best...it was God.. so if they turned away from him and he was no longer with them, they would be weak and their enemies would overtake them not because God wants it to happen to them but because God is no longer with them and they are powerless

2. the consequence of turning AGAINST God. if u read the verse again God said IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE HOSTILE TOWARDS ME, then i will be hostile towards you. He didn't say he would just be hostile for no reason. he warned them of the hostility and promised to reciprocate their hostility towards him if it continued... that is just... God doesn't like punishing them....that was just reciprocating their hostility towards him. even you as a human.. if someone u helped keeps attacking u won't u retaliate?? or would u just shut up and let the attack continue??

God is just

in the second verse you quoted God punished the amalekites for WAHT THEY DID TO ISRAEL when they laidwait of them when they came out of Egypt.
again... God did not punish the amalekites for no reason... their punishment is for what they did to Israel (God's choses people).
I'm sure you wouldn't see someone else beating the hell out of your son and just let them go free.

before u jump into conclusions and blame a Just God for things u saw that he did.. use your brain to find out why he did it and not just what he did..God is just

cheers
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 1:17pm On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:



you see exactly what I'm talking about.... thank you for the verses... the first verse is talking about the punishment that will befall the Israelites if they turn away from God. God rescued them from the bondage of the Egyptians and told them not to turn away from him.. God didn't just start punishing them for no reason.. if u read the chapter there were 2 types of punishments

1. was the punishment for turning away from him was that their enemies would overtake them.. this was because if they turn away from him he will turn away from them. God was the only reason the Israelites won their battles. they were not the strongest army or the best...it was God.. so if they turned away from him and he was no longer with them, they would be weak and their enemies would overtake them not because God wants it to happen to them but because God is no longer with them and they are powerless

2. the consequence of turning AGAINST God. if u read the verse again God said IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE HOSTILE TOWARDS ME, then i will be hostile towards you. He didn't say he would just be hostile for no reason. he warned them of the hostility and promised to reciprocate their hostility towards him if it continued... that is just... God doesn't like punishing them....that was just reciprocating their hostility towards him. even you as a human.. if someone u helped keeps attacking u won't u retaliate?? or would u just shut up and let the attack continue??

God is just

in the second verse you quoted God punished the amalekites for WAHT THEY DID TO ISRAEL when they laidwait of them when they came out of Egypt.
again... God did not punish the amalekites for no reason... their punishment is for what they did to Israel (God's choses people).
I'm sure you wouldn't see someone else beating the hell out of your son and just let them go free.

before u jump into conclusions and blame a Just God for things u saw that he did.. use your brain to find out why he did it and not just what he did..God is just

cheers

Excuses upon excuses upon excuses, and u'll be back to stage 0.
that's the experience in chatting with a religious fellow.
Always excuses for wrong actions no matter how bad it is

Even if their god ate babies, they will find a way to defend him...well Yaweh almost ate babies, watz d difference in him killing egyptian babies and eating them.
moreover as a control freak, he threatened to make people eat their babies.

so my friend, I have nothing personal against u...if u are truly opened minded as u said, someday d the chains of indoctrination over u will loose and u shall see the truth about religion.

Islam will defend mohammed till death no matter what u bring up against him, he is right same with christianity and all other religions.

I may not reply u anymore as it is meaningless...u will keep booting as the zombie that religion has made of you and your kinds...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 1:34pm On Oct 04, 2016
realmindz:


Excuses upon excuses upon excuses, and u'll be back to stage 0.
that's the experience in chatting with a religious fellow.
Always excuses for wrong actions no matter how bad it is

Even if their god ate babies, they will find a way to defend him...well Yaweh almost ate babies, watz d difference in him killing egyptian babies and eating them.
moreover as a control freak, he threatened to make people eat their babies.

so my friend, I have nothing personal against u...if u are truly opened minded as u said, someday d the chains of indoctrination over u will loose and u shall see the truth about religion.

Islam will defend mohammed till death no matter what u bring up against him, he is right same with christianity and all other religions.

I may not reply u anymore as it is meaningless...u will keep booting as the zombie that religion has made of you and your kinds...

u can insult me as much as u want... i couldn't care less

there is a difference between killing a baby and eating it. murderers aren't called cannibals.

he threatened people because they fought against him and his people.. the only group of people i remember God telling that they will eat their babies was as a punishment for killing his people and for THEIR LOVE OF SACRIFICING THEIR LOVED ONES TO IDOLS.

i have nothing personal against u . i hope we both see the light

like i said earlier i will try to explain things to the best of my understanding.
behind every action there is a reason
i don't just like to blame people for their actions... i want to see the reason and motive behind it

A father who punishes his son doesn't hate him or derive pleasure in it and a father who protects his child does so out of love..

you never talked of all the goos things which God did for the Israelites which are way way way more than the punishments he has given them.

His anger does last for a moment and the love is everlasting

how many of the punishments of Israel lasts till today and how many of the blessings last till today.

God blessed Israel with land and made them a country
God told them that they will not be defeated..... that promise works till today because i have never seen any country taking down Israel. its either win or draw.. no loss. countries that partner with them are always successful e.g USA.
Isis neva do mistake enta dat side go find trouble

the good is way way way more than the bad which is very few and mostly exaggerated by people

thank you and it was really good chatting with you

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 2:20pm On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:



wow.. so Eusebius put parables into the mouth of Jesus. wonderful.. so how did Eusebius who lived 324 years after Jesus put parables into his mouth when Jesus lived over 300 years before him?

Eusebius of Caesarea (/ juːˈsiːbiəs/ ;
Greek : Εὐσέβιος, Eusébios ;
AD 260/265 – 339/340), also known as Eusebius Pamphili , was a Greek historian of Christianity, exegete, and
Christian polemicist . He became the
bishop of Caesarea Maritima about 314 AD.

Eusebius was a historian not a parable former

I'm eager to hear your reply...

Jesus doesn't exist, Paul and the starter of Christianity existed and they didn't write as much about their central figure. When Eusebius came, he gathered all the little little scripts he saw up and down and thus formed the New Testament.

I NEVER KNEW THAT ANYONE EVER EXISTED CALLED EUSEBIUS UNTIL I BEGAN TO RECEIEVE THIS MY OWN REVELATION. THEN I SAW TWO VISIONS. THE FIRST WAS PERSUASIVE. I WAS ASKED TO STOP REVEALING MY REVELATION. AT THE END OF THAT REVELATION, THE NAME "EUSEBIUS" FLASHED BEFORE ME.

I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN THAT NAME BEFORE. WHEN I CHECKED ON GOOGLE AFTER, I KNEW THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO FORMED THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY.

He actually appeared to me to stop mine because it was a threat to his own falsehood. Then the second vision he threatened me with sword. Then I knew that EUSEBIUS IS THE ONE ACTUALLY BEHIND THE JESUS STUFF. THERE IS NO REAL PERSON SUCH AS JESUS WHO ACTUALLY DID ALL THE MIRACLES THEY ASCRIBED TO HIM. THE CLOSEST TO THE FICTIONAL CHARACTER "JESUS" IS FAULKIN OF THE NEANDERTHAL PERIOD.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Wilgrea7(m): 3:03pm On Oct 04, 2016
otemanuduno:


Jesus doesn't exist, Paul and the starter of Christianity existed and they didn't write as much about their central figure. When Eusebius came, he gathered all the little little scripts he saw up and down and thus formed the New Testament.

I NEVER KNEW THAT ANYONE EVER EXISTED CALLED EUSEBIUS UNTIL I BEGAN TO RECEIEVE THIS MY OWN REVELATION. THEN I SAW TWO VISIONS. THE FIRST WAS PERSUASIVE. I WAS ASKED TO STOP REVEALING MY REVELATION. AT THE END OF THAT REVELATION, THE NAME "EUSEBIUS" FLASHED BEFORE ME.

I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE SEEN THAT NAME BEFORE. WHEN I CHECKED ON GOOGLE AFTER, I KNEW THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO FORMED THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY.

He actually appeared to me to stop mine because it was a threat to his own falsehood. Then the second vision he threatened me with sword. Then I knew that EUSEBIUS IS THE ONE ACTUALLY BEHIND THE JESUS STUFF. THERE IS NO REAL PERSON SUCH AS JESUS WHO ACTUALLY DID ALL THE MIRACLES THEY ASCRIBED TO HIM. THE CLOSEST TO THE FICTIONAL CHARACTER "JESUS" IS FAULKIN OF THE NEANDERTHAL PERIOD.

Do your research well dude.. a lot of historical sources before that of eusebius indicates that Jesus existed.. the problem was wether or not he was who he claimed to be (according to the sources) but there are numerous sources that said with proof that a man like that did walk the earth at that particular time.
other sources confirm it. Jesus did exist

read the reports of Josephus, tacticus and many others.

these reports and many others predated that of Eusebius
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 3:12pm On Oct 04, 2016
Wilgrea7:


Do your research well dude.. a lot of historical sources before that of eusebius indicates that Jesus existed.. the problem was wether or not he was who he claimed to be (according to the sources) but there are numerous sources that said with proof that a man like that did walk the earth at that particular time.
other sources confirm it. Jesus did exist

read the reports of Josephus, tacticus and many others.

these reports and many others predated that of Eusebius

Truth be told, the texts about Jesus which appeared in the books of Josephus and Tacitus began to appear there immediately after Eusebius inherited the papal authority. He had access to the library and there interpolated the Jesus Christ mention in the scripts of those two innocent people.

EUSEBIUS IS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF YOUR FAITH. HE IS THE GREATEST LIAR EVER(ranking only second to Yahweh(satan)).

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