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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 3:03pm On Sep 18, 2016
TV01:


Don't marry a feminist - pseudo-internet-feminists are usually manageable grin - or like Franco, marry a dumb one grin. Though many of us would consider the term "dumb feminist" a tautology lipsrsealed, making this sentence a non-sequitur grin.


TV
Lmao.. Truth!

For what it's worth, dumb feminists make good partners if you're the kind of person that likes to play mind games on them and consequently piss them off to no end...just like Franco. grin

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 3:08pm On Sep 18, 2016
Mindfulness:


I told ya. You are the feminist. grin
After this post you can't deny it. smiley wink

When she is the Queen, he is the King with all things being equal fair. wink
Kill me first tongue
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 3:14pm On Sep 18, 2016
Timbuktou:
Thanks everybody for your responses.

One more thing, though, I noticed user Peter Null state a couple of times that the 50-50 financial arrangement protects the guy's assets post-divorce. I think the rationale is, if he doesn't put up more than 50℅ of the finances for an item or expenditure, upon divorce the courts rule that that is the "life she's accustomed to" and as such he parts with nothing. Meaning if he had decided to spend more than the greed 50%, he would be required to part with assets upon divorce and even still pay alimony.


Our obodo oyibo peoples, TV.01, Grams Tea.roses, Raun.deuter et al. Am I right in my interpretation or is there something I'm missing?

Crackhaus, another part that got me is when she became jealous of him playing with his chest hairs. grin grin grin. I'm eager to see our sistren's take on this.
Back then, I think BananaBender used to always fantasize about what it would feel like to have a male sexual organ lipsrsealed
Where's this girl sef?

It seems to be a common thing among feminists to be jealous of our raging masculine testosterone which is not easy to tame. gringrin
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 3:55pm On Sep 18, 2016
crackhaus:

Kill me first tongue

Not necessary. cheesy
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:10pm On Sep 18, 2016
tearoses:

The truth is that feminism does not appeal to many men (from what ive read anyway) grin
Therefore she may not see the best side of the man
I think that's what happened with Franco
Men generally speaking have a soft side when it comes to women and children
I see it everyday with doors being opened for me and waved to go first in a queue
but when you go head to head with them then you see the other side
Franco could afford to buy his wife a car and most probably would have done so under different circumstance
Thats what most men would have done
Ive never heard of a man loaning his wife money to buy a car

This is the truth many men would naturally want to help but when you come to prove your right then she would be left to prove her so called strenght

Assuming you are a student, you are very good at Maths the other student is good at Chemistry she comes and offers both of you work together you work on your strong areas and we help each other with weak areas
Vs
Someone that says I am equally as good as you in every aspect.

What would you do? probably just sit back and just let it play out as she wanted. How many times have you seen someone coming with a chip on the shoulder to prove rights and leave with a bloody nose

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by An0nimus: 4:47pm On Sep 18, 2016
A40:
Like I always say, you can't be broke and be a feminist. Pick a struggle

This is cold on so many levels.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 6:47pm On Sep 18, 2016
A40:
Like I always say, you can't be broke and be a feminist. Pick a struggle

Like you can't be broke and be the head of the family? grin cheesy

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by A40(m): 7:29pm On Sep 18, 2016
Mindfulness:


Like you can't be broke and be the head of the family? grin cheesy
He married the woman didn't he? And yes if he is not playing certain roles his headship is in a flux
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 8:53pm On Sep 18, 2016
A40:

He married the woman didn't he? And yes if he is not playing certain roles his headship is in a flux

Money makes the world go round. grin
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by crackhaus: 9:37pm On Sep 18, 2016
tearoses:


The truth is that feminism does not appeal to many men (from what ive read anyway) grin
Therefore she may not see the best side of the man
I think that's what happened with Franco
Men generally speaking have a soft side when it comes to women and children
I see it everyday with doors being opened for me and waved to go first in a queue
[size=18pt]but when you go head to head with them then you see the other side[/size]
Franco could afford to buy his wife a car and most probably would have done so under different circumstance

Thats what most men would have done
Ive never heard of a man loaning his wife money to buy a car



cc: Bukatyne, Mindfulness

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by A40(m): 1:10pm On Sep 19, 2016
Mindfulness:


Money makes the world go round. grin
But of course. Shina Peters sang it way back when. 'Without money nothing can be done'

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by kay9(m): 11:19am On Sep 23, 2016
double post.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by kay9(m): 11:20am On Sep 23, 2016
Timbuktou:

That women have to sacrifice their dreams to run their homes is not oppression, or discrimination or man's-worldism. It is common sense and pragmatism. The dreams of billions of men died the day they had families. It cuts both ways. Unless a man is unhappy in his home and marriage, I doubt he would choose having a job that takes him away from home and one that affords him quality time with family.

The difference in how men handle their roles in life and how women handle theirs is acceptance of fate. We have resigned ourselves to our provisioning role. That is what we do. You, women need to accept yours. As my posts on Page1 illustrate, women in Sweden do the barest minimum when the basics are covered. Na so life be.


I'm coming late to this discussion, but this post above, wow... I don't believe i've ever seen or read a better response to the "amazons" of gender equality.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 9:31pm On Sep 23, 2016
kay9:


I'm coming late to this discussion, but this post above, wow... I don't believe i've ever seen or read a better response to the "amazons" of gender equality.

Thanks, sir. How have you been?
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by kay9(m): 3:57am On Sep 24, 2016
Timbuktou:


Thanks, sir. How have you been?

U welcome, mate. I'm quite all right myself, all things considered... as I trust u are.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:05am On Sep 24, 2016
kay9:


U welcome, mate. I'm quite all right myself, all things considered... as I trust u are.

Indeed, I am.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by okotv(m): 4:28pm On Oct 13, 2016
Quiet a read but at least am up to date.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by An0nimus: 5:11pm On Oct 13, 2016
okotv:
Quiet a read but at least am up to date.

You read from page 1? shocked
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by okotv(m): 5:14pm On Oct 13, 2016
An0nimus:


You read from page 1? shocked
nah, being a silent follower. From about page 70

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 7:41am On Oct 17, 2016
Oga TV01

In a different country, the girl would have been given shelter, welfare and social services will be crawling over her like a ants on a pack of sugar especially as children are involved. She will be offered counselling and support.
Childcare will be paid for while she is given an opportunity to return to school.
I know that oyibos can over do things, but children are top priority and as there are kids involved they will support her for as long as it takes.
Unfortunately in Nigeria this is not the case and the community becomes social services and they can do what ever they deem fit.

Experiences do desensitize people and life experiences do shape people so I understand where some people come from.
When people are used to seeing corpses on the road, aborted foetuses in gutters and newborn babies abandoned on rubbish heaps and killed by termites then one does become desensitised.

There is a thread on the front page of a solider who slapped a beauty queen at an event and there is a thread here where people are advising a man who is being blackmailed to get soldiers to beat him up and some were giving tips on how to set him up as a Yahoo boy.
That is what we are used to.
Jungle justice.
The thing is what goes round comes round and what happens the day that one is mistakenly taken for a thief?

I serve & follow one God, not nairaland gods, so I will continue to speak my mind on the things that dont sit comfortably with me, whether I am in the minority or preaching a sermon or not.
What that girl needs is love and not abuse and humiliation. She is already at rock bottom & kicking her and kicking her whilst she is in the ground will not pick her up.

Im answer to your other q. Ive been called so many names like Mummy P etc
But I noticed one thing. The more I protest the more they say it
So ive left them be jare angry
To my family members & my adopted sons and daughters and brothers and sisters I am Big sis
I like that one better grin
Omo Timbuktou jaku jaku yen lo man pe mi ni grandma tongue angry

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by ColtPython(m): 10:38am On Oct 17, 2016
I don't understand why they are bashing Franco. Its clear he and the babe had an agreement before getting married. Franco is a smart Alec tho. He already knows his financial log is far superior to that of the lady so he initiated the 50/50 clause before marriage in order to protect his investment from all these women that can't wait to press the "D" button as soon as the union starts rocking.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Oct 17, 2016
tearoses you know there is also a huge possibility that the children are taken from that type of mother and given up for adoption especially since she has been proven that she continuously makes bad decisions, it can also be proven that the mother isn't raising them in a good condition given her history of "prostituting". Also I wont rule out drug use in her case

All these are enough reasons to take the kids from her until she proves she has her life on the right path

Also like you rightly said, The environment in Nigeria is different. If a teenager steals from a store in US or UK, they will probably be charged for petty stealing an sent to Juvenile where people will work with you, In Nigeria if you steal in the wrong place you can get a burning tyre necklace

So you wont really blame a Nigerian mother who noticed a child penchant to steal and is very harsh on him

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 2:52pm On Oct 17, 2016
raumdeuter:
tearoses you know there is also a huge possibility that the children are taken from that type of mother and given up for adoption especially since she has been proven that she continuously makes bad decisions, it can also be proven that the mother isn't raising them in a good condition given her history of "prostituting". Also I wont rule out drug use in her case

All these are enough reasons to take the kids from her until she proves she has her life on the right path

Also like you rightly said, The environment in Nigeria is different. If a teenager steals from a store in US or UK, they will probably be charged for petty stealing an sent to Juvenile where people will work with you, In Nigeria if you steal in the wrong place you can get a burning tyre necklace

So you wont really blame a Nigerian mother who noticed a child penchant to steal and is very harsh on him

Dayo, children are only taken as a last resort and when its proved that the mother is incapable of looking after them and in which case they are usually taken into care and not out rightly adopted unless it is proven that she cannot care for them or she herself requests this.

I still don’t believe it was a totally lost case, it was just one thing happening after the other. Sometimes one bad decision spirals out of control.

Look at it from another angle, anyone who has had sexx with an ex before marriage could have easily ended up a single mother.

It was very unfortunate that she had a baby with wrong man number one, however we all know that once you make that mistake, the pool of decent men to pick from drastically decreases once you are deemed as “after one”.
You guys say it all the time that you can’t marry a single mother, So the odds of finding a responsible man were stacked against her from the first mistake so it’s no surprise that she ended up with Mr Wrong number 2.
She didn’t also have an education, thriving business, money or assets to even entice anyone from a larger pool e.g. Abuja gigilos.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:03pm On Oct 17, 2016
tearoses:
Dayo, children are only taken as a last resort and when its proved that the mother is incapable of looking after them and in which case they are usually taken into care and not out rightly adopted unless it is proven that she cannot care for them or she herself requests this.

I still don’t believe it was a totally lost case, it was just one thing happening after the other. Sometimes one bad decision spirals out of control.

Look at it from another angle, anyone who has had sexx with an ex before marriage could have easily ended up a single mother.

It was very unfortunate that she had a baby with wrong man number one, however we all know that once you make that mistake, the pool of decent men to pick from drastically decreases once you are deemed as “after one”.
You guys say it all the time that you can’t marry a single mother, So the odds of finding a responsible man were stacked against her from the first mistake so it’s no surprise that she ended up with Mr Wrong number 2.
She didn’t also have an education, thriving business, money or assets to even entice anyone from a larger pool e.g. Abuja gigilos.

She has proven she is incapable, No support they give you in those foreign country can be as good as the one she got from her biological mother before she decided she was too cool towork for the mom and the mom became wicked

First child can be a mistake but second one within a space of 3yrs while she doesnt have any means of livelihood aside taking from mom or other men in exchange for sexx

But after mistake one, she had a mother to feed house and take care of her and her child ONLY if she can help in the store but she declined and sought the easy way out by going for yet ANOTHER man who has had 4 wives and currently living with non of them

As a 24yr old single mother, I will think shackling with another man shouldnt be top of her priorities especially when she has that wonderful mother that's ready to support if only she is ready to work

She doesnt want to go to shop, she fought her wicked mother, She fought her wicked colleague at beauty school, started advertising sexx for willing buyers(This could have got her in jail and termed unfit to be a mother in another country) went to meet a man got pregnant and the man became wicked, I also believe somewhere some form of drugs is also involved maybe it might just be weed

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 3:03pm On Oct 17, 2016
raumdeuter:


Also like you rightly said, The environment in Nigeria is different. If a teenager steals from a store in US or UK, they will probably be charged for petty stealing an sent to Juvenile where people will work with you, In Nigeria if you steal in the wrong place you can get a burning tyre necklace

So you wont really blame a Nigerian mother who noticed a child penchant to steal and is very harsh on him

True
But lets step back one
Why is the child stealing?
Will beating and being harsh be the only way to stop the child stealing?
Many of the armed robbers today were probably disciplined very well when growing up

I am not a soft parent, but I tend to look at the bigger picture when things happen.
I try to understand why people do things & the circumstances behind them & teach them ways out of it.
I am firm but fair and I also talk a lot smiley
Growing up, my mum was the beater/disciplinarian and my dad the pep talker & the listener.
I preferred to annoy my mum but never wanted to upset my dad because I always felt as if I had disappointed him when that happened because he had put so much trust in me.
I guess everyone is different including kids and we all respond differently to things.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 3:10pm On Oct 17, 2016
raumdeuter:


She has proven she is incapable, No support they give you in those foreign country can be as good as the one she got from her biological mother before she decided she was too cool towork for the mom and the mom became wicked

First child can be a mistake but second one within a space of 3yrs while she doesnt have any means of livelihood aside taking from mom or other men in exchange for sexx

But after mistake one, she had a mother to feed house and take care of her and her child ONLY if she can help in the store but she declined and sought the easy way out by going for yet ANOTHER man who has had 4 wives and currently living with non of them

As a 24yr old single mother, I will think shackling with another man shouldnt be top of her priorities especially when she has that wonderful mother that's ready to support if only she is ready to work

She doesnt want to go to shop, she fought her wicked mother, She fought her wicked colleague at beauty school, started advertising sexx for willing buyers(This could have got her in jail and termed unfit to be a mother in another country) went to meet a man got pregnant and the man became wicked, I also believe somewhere some form of drugs is also involved maybe it might just be weed

I agree it looks very bad & I'm the first to say that she does have serious issues.
But as I said, once the first mistake was made, others were likely to follow
Some people learn and turn things around and some don't.
But when someone is already on the floor, further kicking wont get the person up.

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:13pm On Oct 17, 2016
tearoses:


True
But lets step back one
Why is the child stealing?
Will beating and being harsh be the only way to stop the child stealing?
Many of the armed robbers today were probably disciplined very well when growing up

I am not a soft parent, but I tend to look at the bigger picture when things happen.
I try to understand why people do things & the circumstances behind them & teach them ways out of it.
I am firm but fair and I also talk a lot smiley
Growing up, my mum was the beater/disciplinarian and my dad the pep talker & the listener.
I preferred to annoy my mum but never wanted to upset my dad because I always felt as if I had disappointed him when that happened because he had put so much trust in me.
I guess everyone is different including kids and we all respond differently to things.

I think in every society whether you behead them or you sing to them, there will always be people who probably think they are too cool to put in a honest living and think they are smarter than those that were caught.

Everyone knows they behead drug peddlers in Indonesia but today there are still several people trying to do it

As adolescents we all tried to be disobedient and push the law, but when you see the repercussion, you think twice and probably follow the right path

2 kids raised by the same parents under the same environment might turn out completely different

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Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 17, 2016
raumdeuter:


I think in every society whether you behead them or you sing to them, there will always be people who probably think they are too cool to put in a honest living and think they are smarter than those that were caught.

Everyone knows they behead drug peddlers in Indonesia but today there are still several people trying to do it

As adolescents we all tried to be disobedient and push the law, but when you see the repercussion, you think twice and probably follow the right path

2 kids raised by the same parents under the same environment might turn out completely different

Hmmmmmm
It may seem that they have been raised under the same conditions but maybe not.
but that's a discussion for another day

It is well sha
I sincerely hope that she turns her life around for the better.
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 17, 2016
tearoses:


Hmmmmmm
It may seem that they have been raised under the same conditions but maybe not.
but that's a discussion for another day

It is well sha
I sincerely hope that she turns her life around for the better.


Mummy in Israel, eku ro le ma grin grin grin grin
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 6:00pm On Oct 17, 2016
naijababe:


Mummy in Israel, eku ro le ma grin grin grin grin

Jesus Christ.... shocked shocked shocked

Naijababe don murder simple greeting... tongue tongue

That is not how to write it
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 17, 2016
bellong:


Jesus Christ.... shocked shocked shocked

Naijababe don murder simple greeting... tongue tongue

That is not how to write it

It is an emphatic greeting........I can't just say eku'role ma to the our very own mummy in Israel ni. Besides, I am not TV01 or kimoni, I murder English and Yoruba equally so I won't be accused of being partial to English lipsrsealed
Re: Boys Night Out Discussions by bellong: 6:12pm On Oct 17, 2016
naijababe:


It is an emphatic greeting........I can't just say eku'role ma to the our very own mummy in Israel ni. Besides, I am not TV01 or kimoni, I murder English and Yoruba equally so I won't be accused of being partial to English lipsrsealed

Hmm..... You are showing Mushin side of you bah.. cheesy

Mummy in Isreal no reach for her... Mummy "gbogbo aiye", sounds better cool

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