DoctorAlien:


We recognize that a person has said the truth when he does so.

If the same person lies, we recognize that he has lied too.

The Christian life is all about candour.

Yes Because it agrees to What you believe but if it doesn't it's A lie? you guys are Hypocrite

FSMs:

Yes Because it agrees to What you believe but if it doesn't it's A lie?

I believe the Bible. If it doesn't agree with the Bible, it's a lie.

DoctorAlien:


I believe the Bible. If it doesn't agree with the Bible, it's a lie.

Are u saying what he wrote there didn't agree with the Bible but when it comes to defending the Elisha stuff it agrees with the Bible? what ah hypocrite

FSMs:

Are u saying what he wrote there didn't agree with the Bible but when it comes to defending the Elisha stuff it agrees with the Bible? what ah hypocrite

Are you EyehateGod? Because this puerile answer is characteristic of him.

DoctorAlien:


Are you EyehateGod? Because this puerile answer is characteristic of him.

Yes i am And why can't people be honest to themselves?

TomHagen:
You are just repeating the same thing. Na who Him like to give Him dey give. No be about quantity. A man with unlimited wealth still reserves the right to give his wealth to whoever he pleases.

of course, but that's beside this bro


if I have unlimited money, I'll give to EVERYONE, whoever asks, what do I need the discretion for? discretion goes outta the window the moment I get that unlimited money

I'll give as much as possible to as many people as possible, I'll travel round the world dropping as much money as possible from my plane

I'll buy as much food, drugs, clean water, groceries as I can and send it to war torn countries who would find better use for those things than money

we talking "unlimited money" here FFs

oh! let me stop here because I'm sure you get the idea

FSMs:
Yes i am And why can't people be honest to themselves?

hahaha everyone knows you even with their eyes closed...lol

Weah96:


I would love to hear your opinion on suicide bombings. Is it possible that suicide bombings are a show of compassion from an entity with unlimited wisdom?

I believe that majority of suicide attacks (if not all) are simply a result of brainwashing to the point of mindlessness. This would explain why the very educated terrorists leaders; Abubakar-al Baghdadi, Ayman-al-Zawahiri, Osama Bin Laden et al do not carry out suicide attacks. One would expect them to be in a hurry to get their virgins.

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If by chance there are people who are in control of faculties who carry out suicide attacks, it would still boil down to trust. They have decided to have total trust (faith) in what they percieve to be greater than them, so much so that they are willing to kill themselves for they have believed. My opinion as a Christian would be that they have misplaced their trust.

hopefullandlurd:


of course, but that's beside this bro


if I have unlimited money, I'll give to EVERYONE, whoever asks, what do I need the discretion for? discretion goes outta the window the moment I get that unlimited money

I'll give as much as possible to as many people as possible, I'll travel round the world dropping as much money as possible from my plane

I'll buy as much food, drugs, clean water, groceries as I can and send it to war torn countries who would find better use for those things than money

we talking "unlimited money" here FFs

oh! let me stop here because I'm sure you get the idea

is this answer meant for my Question or are you going to treat my question separately?

4everGod1:



is this answer meant for my Question or are you going to treat my question separately?

where's your question?

been busy watching Madrid's match so I just check for Tom's posts and reply

hopefullandlurd:


where's your question?

been busy watching Madrid's match so I just check for Tom's posts and reply

chexk your mentions and answer my question. Dont play coy.

4everGod1:


chexk your mentions and answer my question. Dont play coy.

bolded, not necessary,
checking....

4everGod1:


chexk your mentions and answer my question. Dont play coy.

bolded, not necessary, checking

hopefullandlurd:


of course, but that's beside this bro


if I have unlimited money, I'll give to EVERYONE, whoever asks, what do I need the discretion for? discretion goes outta the window the moment I get that unlimited money

I'll give as much as possible to as many people as possible, I'll travel round the world dropping as much money as possible from my plane

I'll buy as much food, drugs, clean water, groceries as I can and send it to war torn countries who would find better use for those things than money

we talking "unlimited money" here FFs

oh! let me stop here because I'm sure you get the idea

Aahh. Too much money in circulation leads to inflation. If you do that, the price of everything will skyrocket as everyone would now have money. I know this even with my limited wisdom. Do you want to hazard a guess as to what someone with unlimited wisdom would know?

4everGod1:



when making statements and making comparisons you need to do so rightly so let me ask you this.

If you were God how would you handle discretion side by side with compassion towards your creation taking into consideration their diverse geographical locations, experiences, tribes, character, attirude, acceptance or rejection of people, selfishness, greed, wickedness, kindness and so on.

So tell me your own version of compassion and discretion if you would.

cc valentinemary

is the imaginary compassion you're attributing to me limited or not?

if unlimited, what do I need discretion for?

TomHagen:
Aahh. Too much money in circulation leads to inflation. If you do that, the price of everything will skyrocket as everyone would now have money. I know this even with my limited wisdom. Do you want to hazard a guess as to what someone with unlimited wisdom would know?

I expected this

does this "inflation" apply to compassion?

TomHagen:
I believe that majority of suicide attacks (if not all) are simply a result of brainwashing to the point of mindlessness. This would explain why the very educated terrorists leaders; Abubakar-al Baghdadi, Ayman-al-Zawahiri, Osama Bin Laden et al do not carry out suicide attacks.

Oh, so suicide bombings don't make sense to you because the leaders don't do it? But you just told me that human wisdom is not sufficient to discern the workings of an unlimited mind. It's ironic that you are telling me now that jihadists are mindless and brainwashed. How can you make that statement in good faith, when you yourself have yet to understand unlimited wisdom?

Do you possess unlimited wisdom?

hopefullandlurd:


is the imaginary compassion you're attributing to me limited or not?

if unlimited, what do I need discretion for?

So compassion is to be bandied around to all be they foolish or even if they would abuse it or be killed by it the very next minute?

is this what you mean?

pls answer my question assuming you were God with unlimited compassion mixed with discretion how would you rule the world?

4everGod1:



So compassion is to be bandied around to all be they foolish or even if they would abuse it or be killed by it the very next minute?

is this what you mean?

pls answer my question assuming you were God with unlimited compassion mixed with discretion how would you rule the world?

you're basically asking how I'll do if I already know what someone would do with the compassion, amirite?

hopefullandlurd:


I expected this

does this "inflation" apply to compassion?

What are the downsides of ''distributing compassion'' to everyone? Do you know?

TomHagen:
What are the downsides of ''distributing compassion'' to everyone? Do you know?

interesting, we are getting somewhere

do I have foreknowledge of what they'll do with it or not?

hopefullandlurd:


you're basically asking how I'll do if I already know what someone would do with the compassion, amirite?

You basically act as if you know all about God and How he functions and you find it flawed so put yourself in His shoes...

Right now you are God how would you handle the entire 7.5 billion people in the world with their different thoughts, different dreams and aspirations, different background and character, different habits and mindsets, and all that...

Give us your Godview comparatively.

4everGod1:



You basically act as if you know all about God and How he functions and you find it flawed so put yourself in His shoes...

Right now you are God how would you handle the entire 7.5 billion people in the world with their different thoughts, different dreams and aspirations, different background and character, different habits and mindsets, and all that...

Give us your Godview comparatively.

can we stay on the compassion?

do I have foreknowledge of what each and every person would do with the compassion I'm about to give them?

hopefullandlurd:


can we stay on the compassion?

do I have foreknowledge of what each and every person would do with the compassion I'm about to give them?

would you exclude foreknowledge from freewill? If the foreknowledge you have cannot be utilized for good especially when the recipient has his own freewill to act as he pleases and this freewill would end up destroying him if not utilized correctly

How would you be a better God. Answer the question and stop dancing about.

Weah96:


Oh, so suicide bombings don't make sense to you because the leaders don't do it? But you just told me that human wisdom is not sufficient to discern the workings of an unlimited mind. It's ironic that you are telling me now that jihadists are mindless and brainwashed. How can you make that statement in good faith, when you yourself have yet to understand unlimited wisdom?

Do you possess unlimited wisdom?

It's my personal opinion. The second part of my post (which you conveniently left out) assumed that they are in control of their faculties. This would then mean that they have decided to trust their definition of the unlimited wisdom. There's no difference between me and them really. The only difference is what or prefarably WHO we have decided to regard as the unlimited wisdom. We have only directed our faiths at different entities.

hopefullandlurd:


interesting, we are getting somewhere

do I have foreknowledge of what they'll do with it or not?

So for all you know this is simply a display of foreknowledge right?

4everGod1:


would you exclude foreknowledge from freewill? If the foreknowledge you have cannot be utilized for good especially when the recipient has his own freewill to as he pleases.

How would you be a better God. Answer the question and stop dancing about.

I'm not dancing, you're the one dancing here

if I have foreknowledge, then there's really no freewill here since I already know what 4evergod would do with the compassion I'm about to show him, I'll use "discretion", that's where discretion comes in

if I don't have such foreknowledge, then I'll give EVERYONE

TomHagen:
So for all you know this is simply a display of foreknowledge right?

yes, if bill gates knows you'll burn the $5 he's about to give you with a lighter, he won't give you

hopefullandlurd:


yes, if bill gates knows you'll burn the $5 he's about to give you with a lighter, he won't give you

So why are you complaining?

TomHagen:
So why are you complaining?

does he have foreknowledge?

then "Fatality" the belief or feeling that we have no control over what happens to us becomes applicable here

foreknowledge opens a new can of worms

we'll continue in the morning

hopefullandlurd:


does he have foreknowledge?

then "Fatality" the belief or feeling that we have no control over what happens to us becomes applicable here

foreknowledge opens a new can of worms

we'll continue in the morning

Alright.

TomHagen:
[size=18pt]It's my personal opinion.[/size] The second part of my post (which you conveniently left out) assumed that they are in control of their faculties. This would then mean that they have decided to trust their definition of the unlimited wisdom. There's no difference between me and them really. The only difference is what or prefarably WHO we have decided to regard as the unlimited wisdom. We have only directed our faiths at different entities.

Personal opinions don't apply to such matters. You said so yourself. You can only have an opinion about things that you understand, and unlimited wisdom happens to be beyond you.

With that being said, I admire your honesty.