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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:46pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Thomas said My Lord and My God..A child will be born, a Son will be given, and the Government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, the Father, Mighty God, Prince of peace. Did your Jehovah came as a child? achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:47pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
brocab:So tell me, why did they drop their stones |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:50pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
brocab:Oga I respect you pass this ooooo. i said from Jesus standpoint you are giving me Thomas viewpoint. Look before you leap Oga. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:54pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
This is Jesus given His viewpoint, Did Jesus deny it "No" did Jesus correct Thomas "No" Jesus knew Thomas was speaking the truth. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:56pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
Because {Psalms 82:6} is written in their law. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:56pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
brocab:I know you have answers to that already. Park well. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
[quote author=dolphinheart post=51332037]@bold point of correction which scripture? Even your translation confusedly taught Jesus is God. Dolphinheart lives and gorge his/ herself with lies. 2.never at any point said that Jesus is the almighty God, the one who is the almighty God is jehovah, he called Jesus his, his son, his only begotten SONAnd yet Jesus is Almighty God rev1:18. I know you will still deny this verse. Why do you think it is impossible for Jesus and his Father to be God Almighty?Because you have no truth, false witnesses are trained liars 3. never ever said that Jesus and the father are one God almighty, in fact no verse would you find where it is said that Jesus and the father are one God, Jesus identified the father as our God, the only true God, the disciples identified the father as the one God , the scriptures identified the father as the God of Jesus and our Godjohn 1:1 Jesus is God Jesus is the Alpha and Omega he is God. Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. [quote]you refuse to exit that post of yours so that I can reply you, well you have a right to refuse to do it, ill only be replying what I see when I quote you. Let me as you, is Satan a god of these world? The word used in that verse is "thoes" . Lies satan is not 'a god'. Liar you have abandoned your "lion and son analogy after seing it does not help your cause.how did i abadon the analogy? All sons of God are not God. Jesus is the only true son of God so he is the true God. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:00pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
But really by you asking him. may make a difference, to any knowledge you may feel you have. But if you don't ask him, you will always wonder-is the bible speaking the truth? Or is Dolphinheart speaking to truth? achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:05pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
[quote author=achorladey post=51325113]whats your question exactly |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:10pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
achorladey:you lack basic comprehension ability why did you remove those two words and misinterpret it. You expect me to answer you? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:15pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
brocab:Fantastic, The laws in Psalms 82:6 states when the sons of the Most High are addressed, they are called 'gods'. So how come one of the son of the Most High in John 1:1 as confirmed in John 1:16 was addressed as 'God'. Perhaps John was the law breaker or those that translates the Bible are the main culprit. What is your take on that. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:27pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
brocab:Oga I want confirmation from the 'horses mouth' not basically from the mouth of an individual people tagged as 'doubting thomas'. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:33pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
solite3:Highlight the words let me see. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 10:38pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=51343503][/quote] You accused me of lacking comprehension of your last post and two question are right there in that post you can see them. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:24pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
achorladey:my posts are there go back and reread |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:26pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
achorladey:why do u like to alter my posts and yet u want me to answer u? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:39pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
More facts people should know about false jw Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian? by Matt Slick 12/05/08 The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings. Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors: Taking verses out of their immediate context. Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context. Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text. Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs. Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others. Changing the meanings of words. Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines. Adding to the Word of God. Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness' organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking? The Witnesses are told they will be persecuted when they go door-to-door teaching their doctrines. They are further told that this is simply the enemy fighting against God's organization because they are in "the truth." So, when someone disagrees with them, they are conditioned to reflect on what the Watchtower has told them. They then feel confirmed in being in God's true organization on earth (like all cults claim). They are strongly encouraged to have friends and acquaintances that are only JW's, thereby keeping outside examination to a minimum. They are told to shun those who leave their group, for in this way there is no way to see why someone has left and no way to find out that they are in error from those who have found the truth in Christ. They are conditioned to shy away from any real biblically knowledgeable person. An example of this is frequently found on the Internet. I was once banned from a Jehovah's Witness' chat room after I not only answered their objections to the Trinity and deity of Christ but also challenged them in return. Subsequently, my name was passed around to all other Jehovah's Witness' rooms where I was banned from them as well. This is a frequent occurrence on the Internet where the Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well. It is obvious that critical examination of their doctrines is not encouraged by the Watchtower Organization. link: carm dot org 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:40pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith. The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness' history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.,) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers. Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness' organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization and not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."(The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587.) Conclusion The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expands its grip into the lives of its members and their families. It is a non-Christian cult. link: carm dot org 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:46pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
achorladey: False witness look here John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God. 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. thomas said the truth the only problem with thomas was that he took too much time for him to recognise Jesus. Even the pharisee knew Jesus was making himself God hence wanted to take him out. Demons recognise Jesus as the Son of God, do you reject it because they are devils so why will you reject what the pharisee thought about Jesus making himself God when Jesus reaction supported it too? Why will you reject thomas words because he doubted? There is no truth in you! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by akintom(m): 11:47pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
johnw74: Are you by any insinuation, saying JW is a satanic organization? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:56pm On Nov 24, 2016 |
akintom:false witnesses is one hell of an organisation sending millions of people to hell they are not with the true God of the bible they are of this world sensual, carnal and mundane. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:15am On Nov 25, 2016 |
I warn christians not to read that cult margazine people who read it are heading down the pit of hell. I knew of a fine young man who died, he died as Jehovah witness, he died without knowing christ he was blinded by false witness organisation. Some christians do not want to speak against these organisations and false religions for fear of being labelled a 'hate person' they just want to let others be without rebuking their ways hence millions of souls are heading down to hell. This is why i hate religions and jw organisation so much. They are satan's instrument for soul destruction. The world has already been conditioned to race down to hell by her god. This is why i hate false belief systems (traditions) both old and new. Athesism was created by false religion. Jehovah witness organisation has a strong link with satanism just like catholism, mormor and other organisation/false churches. The founder taze rusell was linked to fremason but jw deny him which is just a strategy used by the occult to conceal their activities. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:16am On Nov 25, 2016 |
I warn christians not to read that cults margazine people who read it are heading down the pit of hell. I knew of a fine young man who died, he died as Jehovah witness, he died without knowing christ he was blinded by false witness organisation. Some christians does not want to speak against these organisation and false religion for fear of being label a 'hate person' they just want to practice religion and let others be without rebuking their ways hence millions of souls are heading down to hell. This is why i hate religions and jw organisation so much. They are satan's instrument for soul destruction. The world has already been conditioned to race down to hell by her god. This is why i hate false belief systems (traditions) both old and new. Athesism was created by false religion. Jehovah witness organisation has a strong link with satanism just like catholism, mormor and other organisation/false churches. The founder taze rusell was linked to fremason but jw deny him which is just a strategy used by the occult to conceal their activities. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:17am On Nov 25, 2016 |
akintom: if the shoe fits. false jw go to great lengths to try and show that Our Lord Jesus Christ is not God rejecting Bible verses that show He is: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. More on God being manifest in the flesh: Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. More on Jesus is God: Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. "Lord" in that verse is "kurios" meaning supreme in authority, God. who other than God is supreme in authority? With false jw rejecting the Word being God, and false jw rejecting Bible verses showing that the Word-our Lord Jesus Christ is God, ummm, satanic organization does seem to fit, but in my opinion satanic organization definitely fits. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 12:28am On Nov 25, 2016 |
johnw74:you are absolutely correct! Infact there is nothing christian about that organisation, you can see the deep hatred against the Son of God. These cult seems to attack the personality of christ more because that is where the salvation of humanity lies. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:55am On Nov 25, 2016 |
[size=18pt]Isa 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.[/size] |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by akintom(m): 6:58am On Nov 25, 2016 |
johnw74: How about atheists, what is your view about them. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by akintom(m): 7:02am On Nov 25, 2016 |
solite3:Can you please expatiate on this. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:12am On Nov 25, 2016 |
{John 10:37} achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 8:52am On Nov 25, 2016 |
solite3:Oga I insist, give me confirmation from the 'horses mouth'. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 8:56am On Nov 25, 2016 |
solite3:Can you hear yourself, yet the JWs believe the greatest man who ever lived was Jesus. Yet they believe Jesus is God's greatest gift to mankind. Yet you insist they are against humanity. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 9:03am On Nov 25, 2016 |
solite3:Highlight the words |
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