achorladey:

It seems you don't understand my question, from Jesus standpoint do you think Jesus expect the JWs to see him(Jesus) as Almighty God before they gain everlasting life? John 3 :16, John 3:36 John 17:3.
I am giving you another benefit to answer the question.

brocab:
Reading {John 10:33-34} maybe I little clear for you to understand?
Jesus quoted scripture to the Jews who were about to stone Him, and they put their stones down after Jesus quoted {Psalms 82:6}

brocab:
Thomas said My Lord and My God.

achorladey:

Oga I respect you pass this ooooo. i said from Jesus standpoint you are giving me Thomas viewpoint. Look before you leap Oga.

achorladey:

So tell me, why did they drop their stones

brocab:
He is your teacher isn't he-it's a good question to ask-since you aren't sure about your bible history

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(go and learn how to quote)

it is a fact that the scriptures :
1.[b] never said or thought us Jesus is jehovah, [/b]in fact, jehovah prophesied about Jesus as his servant. jehovah did not send himself or did he?, I'd jehovah the servant of jehovah?

2.never at any point said that Jesus is the almighty God, the one who is the almighty God is jehovah, he called Jesus his, his son, his only begotten SON

3. never ever said that Jesus and the father are one God almighty, in fact no verse would you find where it is said that Jesus and the father are one God, Jesus identified the father as our God, the only true God, the disciples identified the father as the one God , the scriptures identified the father as the God of Jesus and our God

[quote]you refuse to exit that post of yours so that I can reply you, well you have a right to refuse to do it, ill only be replying what I see when I quote you. Let me as you, is Satan a god of these world? The word used in that verse is "thoes" .

you have abandoned your "lion and son analogy after seing it does not help your cause.
You picked a new one which makes it worse, cus you are implying that all sons of God are God.

achorladey:

I know you have answers to that already. Park well.

[quote author=achorladey post=51325113]
Jesus(the Almighty God) didn't come to reveal himself as Almighty God his mission was to come as a servant to do his Almighty God's will. Do you know that once the Almighty God becomes a servant he needs help?
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
How well do you understand the phrase 'his Almighty God' s will'?

achorladey:

You have repeated the statement again 'supported their thinking'. Do the pharisee believe Jesus was equal to God. (Yes/No) What understanding do the pharisee have about Jesus? Maybe I can get you clearly.

brocab:
Because {Psalms 82:6} is written in their law.

brocab:
This is Jesus given His viewpoint, Did Jesus deny it "No" did Jesus correct Thomas "No" Jesus knew Thomas was speaking the truth.

solite3:
you lack basic comprehension ability why did you remove those two words and misinterpret it.
You expect me to answer you?

achorladey:

Highlight the words let me see.

achorladey:

You accused me of lacking comprehension of your last post and two question are right there in that post you can see them.

achorladey:

Oga I want confirmation from the 'horses mouth' not basically from the mouth of an individual people tagged as 'doubting thomas'.

johnw74:

The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness' history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.,) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers.

Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness' organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York.

"Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization and not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."(The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587.)
Conclusion

The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expands its grip into the lives of its members and their families.

It is a non-Christian cult.

akintom:



Are you by any insinuation, saying JW is a satanic organization?

akintom:



Are you by any insinuation, saying JW is a satanic organization?

johnw74:



if the shoe fits.



false jw go to great lengths to try and show that Our Lord Jesus Christ is not God
rejecting Bible verses that show He is:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.



More on God being manifest in the flesh:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


More on Jesus is God:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"Lord" in that verse is "kurios" meaning supreme in authority, God.
who other than God is supreme in authority?


With false jw rejecting the Word being God, and false jw rejecting Bible verses showing that the Word-our Lord Jesus Christ is God,
ummm, satanic organization does seem to fit, but in my opinion satanic organization definitely fits.

johnw74:



if the shoe fits.



false jw go to great lengths to try and show that Our Lord Jesus Christ is not God
rejecting Bible verses that show He is:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.



More on God being manifest in the flesh:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


More on Jesus is God:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
"Lord" in that verse is "kurios" meaning supreme in authority, God.
who other than God is supreme in authority?


With false jw rejecting the Word being God, and false jw rejecting Bible verses showing that the Word-our Lord Jesus Christ is God,
ummm, satanic organization does seem to fit, but in my opinion satanic organization definitely fits.

solite3:
. Athesism was created by false religion.

achorladey:

Fantastic, The laws in Psalms 82:6 states when the sons of the Most High are addressed, they are called 'gods'. So how come one of the son of the Most High in John 1:1 as confirmed in John 1:16 was addressed as 'God'. Perhaps John was the law breaker or those that translates the Bible are the main culprit. What is your take on that.

solite3:


False witness look here

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

thomas said the truth the only problem with thomas was that he took too much time for him to recognise Jesus.

Even the pharisee knew Jesus was making himself God hence wanted to take him out.

Demons recognise Jesus as the Son of God, do you reject it because they are devils so why will you reject what the pharisee thought about Jesus making himself God when Jesus reaction supported it too?

Why will you reject thomas words because he doubted?
There is no truth in you!

solite3:
you are absolutely correct! Infact there is nothing christian about that organisation, you can see the deep hatred against the Son of God. These cult seems to attack the personality of christ more because that is where the salvation of humanity lies.

solite3:
my posts are there go back and reread