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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:43am On Dec 06, 2016
rvp2017:
The data I seen is 60,000 metric tonnes of wheat for Nigeria. Kenya produces 3.5m metric tonnes of Maize. Kenya is putting 1 million acres of land under irrigation.
Galana-Kulalu irrigation farm.



Nigga believe me when i say " Nigeria is the best in Africa"
"Production
Worldwide production of maize is 785 million tons, with the largest producer, the United States, producing 42%. Africa produces 6.5% and the largest African producer is Nigeria with nearly 8 million tons, followed by South Africa. Africa imports 28% of the required maize from countries outside the continent.

Most maize production in Africa is rain fed. Irregular rainfall can trigger famines during occasional droughts."

http://www.iita.org/maize
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 9:46am On Dec 06, 2016
gallivant:

















same pictures over and over again,"recycling garbage" ., show us other part of Nairobi,Kasarani,Buruburu,Eastligh,Kabete....."
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 10:00am On Dec 06, 2016
Giant that cannot feed itself. All Nigeria food they produce is not enough to feed their 180M mouths. Kenya has very little food deficit and export a lot of agriclutures produces. Nigeria is net food importer.

Nigeria Sugar production - of 60,000 tonnes against consumption demand of 1.7M tonnes ..btw that is really small sugar consumption for 180m people - making your economic stats really fake - Sugar and Cement are some key important pseudo-data for measuring economy)

Kenya produces 600,000 tonnes of sugar against consumption of 800,000 tonnes.

In any food crop - kenya has either excess or small short fall. Nigeria spend most of the oil money importing food including tomato paste grin (tomato sauce?).

Nigeria spend 3 trillion naira ($6.5 billion) importing food. That is a big gigantic failure.

68816419:

Nigga believe me when i say " Nigeria is the best in Africa"
"Production
Worldwide production of maize is 785 million tons, with the largest producer, the United States, producing 42%. Africa produces 6.5% and the largest African producer is Nigeria with nearly 8 million tons, followed by South Africa. Africa imports 28% of the required maize from countries outside the continent.

Most maize production in Africa is rain fed. Irregular rainfall can trigger famines during occasional droughts."

http://www.iita.org/maize


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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:25am On Dec 06, 2016
rvp2017:
Giant that cannot feed itself. All Nigeria food they produce is not enough to feed their 180M mouths. Kenya has very little food deficit and export a lot of agriclutures produces. Nigeria is net food importer.

Nigeria Sugar production - of 60,000 tonnes against consumption demand of 1.7M tonnes ..btw that is really small sugar consumption for 180m people - making your economic stats really fake - Sugar and Cement are some key important pseudo-data for measuring economy)

Kenya produces 600,000 tonnes of sugar against consumption of 800,000 tonnes.

In any food crop - kenya has either excess or small short fall. Nigeria spend most of the oil money importing food including tomato paste grin (tomato sauce?).

Nigeria spend 3 trillion naira ($6.5 billion) importing food. That is a big gigantic failure.

http://guardian.ng/business-services/nigerias-sugar-masterplan-has-date-with-2016/

plus

Dangote Sugar to increase production capacity to 2m metric tons

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/05/dangote-sugar-increase-production-capacity-2m-metric-tons/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:36am On Dec 06, 2016
Kenyan culture: Swahili

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 10:39am On Dec 06, 2016
Muafrika2:
Kenyan culture: Swahili

fool. the only people that still sticks to their culture are the Masai, the rest have been westernized both mentally and physical by whites and Indians
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 10:44am On Dec 06, 2016
rvp2017:
Giant that cannot feed itself. All Nigeria food they produce is not enough to feed their 180M mouths. Kenya has very little food deficit and export a lot of agriclutures produces. Nigeria is net food importer.

Nigeria Sugar production - of 60,000 tonnes against consumption demand of 1.7M tonnes ..btw that is really small sugar consumption for 180m people - making your economic stats really fake - Sugar and Cement are some key important pseudo-data for measuring economy)

Kenya produces 600,000 tonnes of sugar against consumption of 800,000 tonnes.

In any food crop - kenya has either excess or small short fall. Nigeria spend most of the oil money importing food including tomato paste grin (tomato sauce?).

Nigeria spend 3 trillion naira ($6.5 billion) importing food. That is a big gigantic failure.


Stop saying trash. The only food items we import are rice, wheat and sugar. Rice was banned last year and the following year production increased to 3.5 million MT and it's expected to increase to over 10 million MT before the end of 2018.

Same is about to happen to wheat and sugar.

As for tomatoes, we have more than enough tomatoes in our market but we use to import tomato paste from china but this year we now have our local companies producing enough tomato paste for the entire nation and importation of tomato paste will soon be banned. This was the reason tomato suddenly became expensive some months back. The companies bought a larger portion of what was in the market at once.

Do you know what it means to produce food for 182,000,000 people? And all we import is just Rice, wheat and sugar.

The other thing I know we import is palm oil which we have I'm abundance too but the cost of processing ours is higher than the imported once.

http://nairametrics.com/latest-data-top-10-items-nigeria-exports-and-imports/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:52am On Dec 06, 2016
iblawi:


Stop saying trash. The only food items we import are rice, wheat and sugar. Rice was banned last year and the following year production increased to 3.5 million MT and it's expected to increase to over 10 million MT before the end of 2018.

Same is about to happen to wheat and sugar.

As for tomatoes, we have more than enough tomatoes in our market but we use to import tomato paste from china but this year we now have our local companies producing enough tomato paste for the entire nation and importation of tomato paste will soon be banned. This was the reason tomato suddenly became expensive some months back. The companies bought a larger portion of what was in the market at once.

Do you know what it means to produce food for 182,000,000 people? And all we import is just Rice, wheat and sugar.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iblawi(m): 10:58am On Dec 06, 2016
obaaderemi:
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The other thing I know we import are processed foods and palm oil which we have I'm abundance too but the cost of processing ours is higher than the imported once. Except we ban importation of Palm oil our local farmers won't be able to compete with foreign once.

Processed foods we import are not of much value.

http://nairametrics.com/latest-data-top-10-items-nigeria-exports-and-imports/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12am On Dec 06, 2016
68816419:


fool. the only people that still sticks to their culture are the Masai, the rest have been westernized both mentally and physical by whites and Indians
You were obviously too busy peddling your white powder, if ever you stepped in Kenya, you failed to notice the Kenyan culture ...

There is a reason we make lists like this:

Kenya is one of the few countries that contribute positive social good to the world. The Good Country Index ranks Kenya at position 26 out of the top 30 countries. Cultural contribution is one of the considerations.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:15am On Dec 06, 2016
Kenyan culture, Gabra ...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:17am On Dec 06, 2016
rvp2017:
I had to check this and turn out they are bus companies. Kenya has several of those plying east africa countries.
Africa Commuter Services Limited.
Coast Bus (Msa) Limited.
Blue Horizon Travels.
Arusha Shuttle Bus.
Blue Line Shuttle Company.
Bustrack Limited.
City Hoppa Limited.
Crown Bus Service Limited.
Modern Coast.
I was thinking you're talking Logistics - where kenya has several mncs (trucking goods all over east and central africa) - with several trucks - with largest being Multiplier hauliers with more than 3,000 trucks. Signon has more than 1,000 trucks and are shipping & air logisitics. I could go on and on..but I doubt Nigeria transport sector is as modern as kenya-


Sorry, the only bus company in Kenya that is MNCs is Modern coast. The rest doesn't go beyond the borders of Kenya.

If I am wrong, please list all the routes of each bus companies with a credible source for verification.

After we are done with that den we will move to logistics and shipping. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 06, 2016
cool
Kenyan culture: Kamba people are known for their exquisite craftsmanship. They are excellent wood carvers, weavers and have some acrobatic dancing skills.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:03pm On Dec 06, 2016
iblawi:


The other thing I know we import are processed foods and palm oil which we have I'm abundance too but the cost of processing ours is higher than the imported once. Except we ban importation of Palm oil our local farmers won't be able to compete with foreign once.

Processed foods we import are not of much value.

http://nairametrics.com/latest-data-top-10-items-nigeria-exports-and-imports/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:13pm On Dec 06, 2016
iblawi:


The other thing I know we import are processed foods and palm oil which we have I'm abundance too but the cost of processing ours is higher than the imported once. Except we ban importation of Palm oil our local farmers won't be able to compete with foreign once.

Processed foods we import are not of much value.

http://nairametrics.com/latest-data-top-10-items-nigeria-exports-and-imports/
THe only food items we really need to import are wheat and milk.even milk can be produced adequately in nigeria if we put the right pple in govt.rice and tomato production has gone up seriously even thru the efforts of ordinary nigerian farmers.our ict and industrialization are mainly privately driven and yet most african countries are behind us in terms of per capita,even tiny kenya.if only the govt can be transparent about electricity and hand off totally,nigeria will simply blast off.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 12:26pm On Dec 06, 2016
forgiveness:



Sorry, the only bus company in Kenya that is MNCs is Modern coast. The rest doesn't go beyond the borders of Kenya.

If I am wrong, please list all the routes of each bus companies with a credible source for verification.

After we are done with that den we will move to logistics and shipping. grin

Logistics

According to the WB
Logistics performance index-2016

Shipping
Africa’s biggest shipping ports


Bus Transport Kenya

Crown Bus Services

Kenya Bus Service

Easy Coach

Coast Bus Service

Dreamline Expres

Marangu Luxury Shuttle
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:28pm On Dec 06, 2016
obaaderemi:
THe only food items we really need to import are wheat and milk.even milk can be produced adequately in nigeria if we put the right pple in govt.rice and tomato production has gone up seriously even thru the efforts of ordinary nigerian farmers.our ict and industrialization are mainly privately driven and yet most african countries are behind us in terms of per capita,even tiny kenya.if only the govt can be transparent about electricity and hand off totally,nigeria will simply blast off.
oh really? care to back up that claim, or are we back to your typical braggart self?
FYI, Kenya is the largest milk producer and consumer in Africa in both gross and per capita terms.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:28pm On Dec 06, 2016
Fact is your import food worth 6.5B usd. That for a third world country is something you shouldn't be doing and it seem you let oil kill everything including crucial food production. Nigeria unlike Kenya or Ethiopia doesn't sit in water scarce enviroment - you have niger & all those rivers providing all the water you need to produce excess food.

Import electronics and machinery - but you cannot be giant who use oil money to buy food. you're a one giant mess.

You won't be in a recession if you economy was diversified. It still dependant on OIL. Anything that gov stats body concoct is lie. If oil prices goes on a free fall; you economy similar does the same. Kenya economy is small but well diversified and sophisticated.

As for ict and industralization beating kenya - I don't know what measures you're using. That certainly is not true. Kenya beat south africa in internet connectivity...leave alone Nigeria. In COMESA region - we are second biggest exporter of manufactured goods -after Egypt- (of some many varities) -beating the combined EU- COMESA is 19 countries union.

obaaderemi:
THe only food items we really need to import are wheat and milk.even milk can be produced adequately in nigeria if we put the right pple in govt.rice and tomato production has gone up seriously even thru the efforts of ordinary nigerian farmers.our ict and industrialization are mainly privately driven and yet most african countries are behind us in terms of per capita,even tiny kenya.if only the govt can be transparent about electricity and hand off totally,nigeria will simply blast off.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:35pm On Dec 06, 2016
Nigerian Construction Companies and owners


1. Julius Berger Nigeria
Julius Berger is no small player when it comes to civil, industrial and marine construction. They have undertaken several infrastructural, building and industrial works across the nation.
Even the ongoing construction of the second River Niger bridge is one among the many projects that is been handled by Julius Berger Nigeria.
Over the years, Julius Berger Nigeria works has been tested and proven to always stand the test of time. They are already marked as one of the most innovative, strategic and vision-oriented engineering and construction company in Africa.
key people

Mr. Mutiu Sunmonu, CON - Chairman
Engr. Heinz Stockhausen - Vice Chairman
HRH Igwe Peter Nwokike Anugwu, JP, OFR - Independent Director
Engr. Jafaru Damulak
Dr. Ernest Nnaemeka Azudialu-Obiejesi
Mr. George Marks
Engr. Wolfgang Goetsch - Managing Director
Mr. Wolfgang Kollermann - Financial Director
Alhaji Zubairu Ibrahim Bayi - Director Administration

2. Dantata & Sawoe Construction Company (Nig.) Ltd
Dantata and Sawoe construction company (Nigeria) limited is a well known name in the industry, has long standing history of churning out state of the art projects that meets industry standard.
They have been operating for years and have got lots of projects to their name.
owners
The Chairman Alhaji (Dr.) Abdulkadir S.A. Dantata (CON)

3. Reynolds Construction Company (RCC)

Reynolds Construction Company (Nigeria) Limited is a subsidiary of SBI International Holdings AG (SBI), whose headquarters is in Switzerland.
The company is no mean player in the engineering and construction sector, has been operating in the country (Nigeria) for decades.
Among the major projects executed by the company is the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile Ife (formerly University of Ife) which the company designed and constructed.
kEY PEOPLE
CHAIRMAN
ENGR. (CHIEF) SAMUEL OLATUNDE FADAHUNSI, OFR, CON
B.Sc. (Civil Engineering); FNSE
http://www.rccnigeria.com/_uploads/imagesgallery/chairma_sam(1).jpg
MANAGING DIRECTOR
ENGR. MOUSSA NAKHLA
B.Sc. (Civil Engineering); MNSE
DIRECTOR
ARC. ADEDAYO SOLOMON ODEYEMI
B.Arch., M.Sc. (Arch); M.Phil (Urban Dev. & Regional Planning); FNIA

pictures
Key people

Julius Berger
Dantata
RCC Nigeria limited

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:36pm On Dec 06, 2016
Muafrika2:

You were obviously too busy peddling your white powder, if ever you stepped in Kenya, you failed to notice the Kenyan culture ...

There is a reason we make lists like this:

Kenya is one of the few countries that contribute positive social good to the world. The Good Country Index ranks Kenya at position 26 out of the top 30 countries. Cultural contribution is one of the considerations.


Hehehehe i like that, too busy peddling white powder - guy you are like a sharp sword. Somewhere in this thread, we must bring out the white powder thingy for discussion.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 12:41pm On Dec 06, 2016
68816419:


fool. the only people that still sticks to their culture are the Masai, the rest have been westernized both mentally and physical by whites and Indians
i think the last 3 digits of your moniker describes you aptly.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:42pm On Dec 06, 2016
MtuMsuper:

oh really? care to back up that claim, or are we back to your typical braggart self?
FYI, Kenya is the largest milk producer and consumer in Africa in both gross and per capita terms.
WHat braggart self?where in the post did i compare milk production in nigeria with kenya.we can produce enough milk if we put our acts together
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 12:45pm On Dec 06, 2016
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 12:46pm On Dec 06, 2016
kenya Last Mile electricity connectivity.
As Nigeria struggle with generators noise; kenya is racing to ensure everyone (even those in slums and villages) have 24-7 electricity by 2020. 10 yrs ago - only 12% of Kenyans had electricity - now that figure has move to nearly 70% of all household, all 25,000 primary schools and 10,000 secondary schools connected, all markets and public places have 24-7s.

Kenya will have universal electricity coverage soon - a first in Africa. South Africa has 80% electricity coverage.

24-7 supply of electricity whether you live in tin house or grass thacted mud house or mansion. You're connected for free and you pay for installation (150usd) over many years. You pay using pre-paid meters. No bill. No debt for power company. You just buy electricity like you buy airtime.

Kenya's Deputy President and Kenya Power Md lighting old woman hut.





Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 12:46pm On Dec 06, 2016
MtuMsuper:

i think the last 3 digits of your moniker describes you aptly.
Good1!......
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darknetcom: 12:53pm On Dec 06, 2016
Jayceon:
More South African architecture,designed by South African architecturers

THE BEST IN THE WORLD

wait...i tut it was about kenya and nigeria..

even south-africa we will beat...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:03pm On Dec 06, 2016
rvp2017:
kenya Last Mile electricity connectivity.
As Nigeria struggle with generators noise; kenya is racing to ensure everyone (even those in slums and villages) have 24-7 electricity by 2020. 10 yrs ago - only 12% of Kenyans had electricity - now that figure has move to nearly 70% of all household, all 25,000 primary schools and 10,000 secondary schools connected, all markets and public places have 24-7s.

Kenya will have universal electricity coverage soon - a first in Africa. South Africa has 80% electricity coverage.

24-7 supply of electricity whether you live in tin house or grass thacted mud house or mansion. You're connected for free and you pay for installation (150usd) over many years. You pay using pre-paid meters. No bill. No debt for power company. You just buy electricity like you buy airtime.

Kenya's Deputy President and Kenya Power Md lighting old woman hut.





Nice slums.... cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darknetcom: 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2016
68816419:


fool. the only people that still sticks to their culture are the Masai, the rest have been westernized both mentally and physical by whites and Indians

this they dont see...

and they are powerless to prevent it..

you are proud that obama is luo...??..

that halfbreed??...

is this the best the can come up it??..

the strange one was even talking about homosexuality,,

does he sound natural luo to them??...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:06pm On Dec 06, 2016
Kenya bold universal electricity coverage vision - made this China company start manufacturing transformers in Nairobi



Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:11pm On Dec 06, 2016
MtuMsuper:

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Enyewe am surprised how some people can live somewhere for years and leave without learning a thing about their host. And to add to it start peddling skewed and malicious notions of their hosts.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 1:14pm On Dec 06, 2016
After connecting them with electricity - their quality of life is way better than middle class family in Nigeria burning a generator. That ubiquitious noise in Lagos is that of generators. That is not way to live.

Inside those slums .. people live better lives than typical nigerian without electricity. No generator noise or smoke.

[img]http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000.N_jPEwTChY/fit=1000x750/kibera-mcpherson-story03.jpg[/img]


And kenya slums are being upgraded.
[img]http://www.nation.co.ke/image/view/-/2764290/highRes/1045197/-/maxw/600/-/u7cg0p/-/slum+px.jpg[/img]


68816419:

Nice slums.... cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by darknetcom: 1:14pm On Dec 06, 2016
iblawi:


The other thing I know we import are processed foods and palm oil which we have I'm abundance too but the cost of processing ours is higher than the imported once. Except we ban importation of Palm oil our local farmers won't be able to compete with foreign once.

Processed foods we import are not of much value.

http://nairametrics.com/latest-data-top-10-items-nigeria-exports-and-imports/

the only way to help local production is to ban the import of anything that can be produced in nigeria...
it will be painful at first,but local producers will catch up quicker than you think.
what we need is security,...

we were surviving well before the foreighners landed on our shores with ther strange ships..

kenyans can not tell us nothing...

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