foladara777:

Yes... Why??

If the death of Christ was gruesome why have you never spoken about it and asked why a man who never committed any offence would be killed in that manner?

4everGod:


I asked you a question as a man and not as God. So answer my question as a man.

We're discussing God here.... So don't give me analogies to man.. Could God have blinded them and thought them a lesson. Yes but he chose to kill them

foladara777:

We're discussing God here.... So don't give me analogies to man.. Could God have blinded them and thought them a lesson. Yes but he chose to kill them

If you think God can leapfrog your free will then you have a sore problem. Have you heard of anything like that? Anything called FREE WILL?

4everGod:


If the death of Christ was gruesome why have you never spoken about it and asked why a man who never committed any offence would be killed in that manner?

Never spoken about it?? I've preached to people about it and even though I no longer believe in him, I still question why anybody will be killed in that manner, I hold that it is wrong and it's one of the reason am against capital punishment... U don't know me so don't make assumptions

foladara777:

Yes... Why??

Do you see God as bad for allowing Himself face such gruesome death?

4everGod:


If you think God can leapfrog your free will then you have a sore problem. Have you heard of anything like that? Anything called FREE WILL?

Oh... The people that wanted to capture Elisha but were blinded?? What was that?? Freewill or no freewill?

KingEbukasBlog:


Do you see God as bad for allowing Himself face such gruesome death?

1. I don't believe he's god
2. If a person chooses to die it's pitiable and should be prevented but it's not the same thing as murdering another person or other people, children to be precise. 42 of them to be exact
3. Jesus actually tried to avoid it at the last minute but of course he was praying to himself that his will should not be done but his father's which is still himself- will should be done... Christianity is hilarious

foladara777:

Oh... The people that wanted to capture Elisha but were blinded?? What was that?? Freewill or no freewill?

Let me help you so you understand purpose in all what God does and also Justification.

Bethel’s rejection of God is reflected in these youngsters’ behavior towards Elisha and this is what leads Elisha to curse these youthful hooligans “in the name of the Lord.” In fact, like Amos after him, Elisha’s curse appears to be a repetition of the curse for rejecting God in the covenant from Sinai:

Lev 26:22–23

“If then you act with hostility and are unwilling to hear/obey me … I will send the wild beasts among you and bereave you of your children” ,

Exactly what happens in this case. Much is made about the blessings contained in the covenant and the many blessings promised by God, but not many want to remember the other side of the equation and that is disobedience calls forth awful curses.

That Elisha’s curse brings about swift comeuppance is no less a sign of his authority as a prophet and representative of the covenant (and thus the truth of his protests against idolatry) than Elijah’s victorious confrontation on Carmel had been.

If indeed you have gone through the scriptures you will recall that in his first act as Elijah’s successor, Elisha had just miraculously purified the accursed, polluted water of Jericho, bringing blessing to those who received God. This second act serves as a sign of God’s continued judgment upon covenant-breakers. Such a visible sign of judgment serves just as Elijah’s drought and victory on Carmel (complete with the slaughter of 450 false prophets) as a sign of God’s reality and his covenantal claim upon Israel.

In addition, given the fact that Elijah had been sought by the king and threatened with death by the queen, this kind of mockery and aggressive behavior serves as a threat and as with Elijah before him, it becomes immediately clear that God himself will look after the safety of his prophet(s), much to the disadvantage of their opponents.

I suggest you read this repeatedly.

foladara777:


1. I don't believe he's god
2. If a person chooses to die it's pitiable and should be prevented but it's not the same thing as murdering another person or other people, children to be precise. 42 of them to be exact
3. Jesus actually tried to avoid it at the last minute but of course he was praying to himself that his will should not be done but his father's which is still himself- will should be done... Christianity is hilarious

Mtcheww .. \

4evagod .. Good night . Sleeptight bro

KingEbukasBlog:


Mtcheww .. \

4evagod .. Good night . Sleeptight bro

My brother the merry dance the guy was doing was very Macabre. Goodnight to you too brother.

4everGod:


Let me help you so you understand purpose in all what God does and also Justification.

Bethel’s rejection of God is reflected in these youngsters’ behavior towards Elisha and this is what leads Elisha to curse these youthful hooligans “in the name of the Lord.” In fact, like Amos after him, Elisha’s curse appears to be a repetition of the curse for rejecting God in the covenant from Sinai:

Lev 26:22–23

“If then you act with hostility and are unwilling to hear/obey me … I will send the wild beasts among you and bereave you of your children” ,

Exactly what happens in this case. Much is made about the blessings contained in the covenant and the many blessings promised by God, but not many want to remember the other side of the equation and that is disobedience calls forth awful curses.

That Elisha’s curse brings about swift comeuppance is no less a sign of his authority as a prophet and representative of the covenant (and thus the truth of his protests against idolatry) than Elijah’s victorious confrontation on Carmel had been.

If indeed you have gone through the scriptures you will recall that in his first act as Elijah’s successor, Elisha had just miraculously purified the accursed, polluted water of Jericho, bringing blessing to those who received God. This second act serves as a sign of God’s continued judgment upon covenant-breakers. Such a visible sign of judgment serves just as Elijah’s drought and victory on Carmel (complete with the slaughter of 450 false prophets) as a sign of God’s reality and his covenantal claim upon Israel.

In addition, given the fact that Elijah had been sought by the king and threatened with death by the queen, this kind of mockery and aggressive behavior serves as a threat and as with Elijah before him, it becomes immediately clear that God himself will look after the safety of his prophet(s), much to the disadvantage of their opponents.

I suggest you read this repeatedly.

So God had already said before that he will send beasts and that makes it alright?? Or killing children as a sign of continued judgment is justifiable?? U need to do better than this
BTW, I saw the page u lifted this comment from... This shows desperation... But I get it, u are determined that you will justify these acts

KingEbukasBlog:


Mtcheww .. \

4evagod .. Good night . Sleeptight bro

Now u run away as usual

4everGod:


My brother the merry dance the guy was doing was very Macabre. Goodnight to you too brother.

Maybe by tomorrow, u guys would have come up with justification for murderous acts of God

4everGod:


Now that you have read the article and noted the particular highlighted portions please note that the article talks about a massive oceanic pool of water inside the earth which is as good as being the size of all the oceans on the earth put together.

Now compare this with what happened in the days of Noah and the very words contained in the Bible in Genesis 7: 11

When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the underground waters erupted from the earth, and the rain fell in mighty torrents from the sky.

How did the men of old who were inspired to write the scriptures know about this massive underground ocean which scientists are discovering today?

Ponder on it and let me know your conclusion.

Don't you think this requires a "common sense" answer.
Wells were dug those days, it should be assumed that these folks knew water could be found deep down, but not sure of the size however.

4kings:

Don't you think this requires a "common sense" answer.
Wells were dug those days, it should be assumed that these folks knew water could be found deep down, but not sure of the size however.

That's brilliant!!

4kings:

Don't you think this requires a "common sense" answer.
Wells were dug those days, it should be assumed that these folks knew water could be found deep down, but not sure of the size however.

My friend your answer wasnt a common sense one.

4everGod:


My friend your answer wasnt a common sense one.

How is that not common sense?? They found water deep in the soil and they assumed that further down the soil there is water...
Well, u won't recognize common sense if you see it

The same old pesky problem of evil that has been a problem to most theologians. No body has been able to provide a satisfying to that question .

4everGod:


My friend your answer wasnt a common sense one.

Is this a compliment or a rebuttal?

dalaman:
The same old pesky problem of evil that has been a problem to most theologians. No body has been able to provide a satisfying to that question .

Evil is more a problem to your folks as they do not even know what to do with it, or what is and what is not evil.

Image123:


Evil is more a problem to your folks as they do not even know what to do with it, or what is and what is not evil.

You have no answer to the problem of evil. Most theologians have already acknowledged that. Move along.

foladara777:

How is that not common sense?? They found water deep in the soil and they assumed that further down the soil there is water...
Well, u won't recognize common sense if you see it

daaaaamn

dalaman:


You have no answer to the problem of evil. Most theologians have already acknowledged that. Move along.

Jesus is the answer to the problem of evil. You don't even know what evil is, much less the answer.

ifenes:


Can you see why you will never be smart. You think being smart is forbidden. Just as the people misunderstood your boy Jesus, you will always misunderstand me too. I heard he said what he did you can do better. But this slave mentality is s big issue.

shiiiiiittttttt...... You fit make someone drink cyanide

Image123:


Jesus is the answer to the problem of evil. You don't even know what evil is, much less the answer.

Jesus's answer to hurricanes and tsumanis is what?

dalaman:


Jesus's answer to hurricanes and tsumanis is what?

I am waiting for image123's answer

foladara777:

This hypocrisy, u expect conclusive evidence of the big bang but believe the creation story without a shred of evidence

so sciences shouldn't be based on empirical evidences?

jonbellion:
actually for Noahs ark to have happened we'd need a lot more water than that

A limited thinking

jonbellion:
whatever rocks your boat dude

fine.
And stop complaining.

foladara777:
Well... Am not going to argue against the idea that the earth is intelligently designed because I feel it is but that's no proof of a God, definitely not the God presented by the religions as almighty... The earth is amazing but it's not perfect, there are natural disasters that claim millions of lives. If God was all powerful and benevolent, then the earth will be perfect... The earth ain't perfect, ergo God couldn't have made the earth
And about where the water came from during Noah's time... Well if it came from the bottom of the earth, where did it go to after the flood

My dear,
Just look at the Computer and the amazing thing it does in computations, graphics, audio etc. The computer as great as it is break down to viral/trojan infections and begin to misbehave.

Now, can we say
1. The Fault is the manufacturers for not making his computer virus proof
OR
The end user, who accepts unverified programs and loads them into his computer.

God is the manufacturer of the Earth while Man is the end user.

Use the same logic and see if you will come to the same conclusion.

NinjaX:

Probability.
But even at that, I thought christians ought to have faith? Don't you believe in the possibility of the impossible again?

how does claiming that God drank the water relates probability??

That sounds senseless.

dalaman:


Jesus's answer to hurricanes and tsumanis is what?

His second coming.
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.