And yet they don't believe God is manifest in the flesh

dolphinheart:

When it comes to translation, one word is not as good as the other, if the wrong or different word is used, it will give a different meaning. The Greek word used by Paul means "he", it does not mean "God". There is a greek word for God and Paul did not use it in that verse.

If I asked that a letter I've written should be copied and the one who copied it make a mistake in one or two words or sentences in that letter, I do not condemn the whole letter, I'll just make corrections where the mistake are made. likewise the kjv, I do not condemn the kjv as a whole, but I try to make sure that the verse I'm quoting is as accurate as possible. If i feel a verse is wrongly or falsely translated, I state it and give reasons why!. Thank God we can all check the manuscripts and try to decipher which translation is correct when two bible translations give different sentences and meaning in the same verse.



haba!, you never stay in one place, always changing your beliefs, you just said how the Hebrew word for Lord was substituted for God's name by those who were afraid. you initially claimed the word " jehovah is a mispeling, now you accept it's a name used for God.



you are trying to change the issue again, we are not discussing about if Paul called God jehovah, we are talking about the true words that Paul used in 1 timothy 3: 16, Paul did not say "god was manifest in flesh, Paul did not use the Greek word " theos"!

dolphinheart:


(1.)Whenever you realise how wrong you are, instead of apologizing and listening to the truth, all you do is try and change the issue under discussion, you have shifted from "mispeling" to "it does not matter" in the twinkling of an eye, the moment you realised that they defended the use of "jehovah" in their bible.
The most interesting part is that you could not fault their defence, you could not even tell if their defence is true or false.
If truly their defence is true, then the use of the word "jehovah" is true, but if there defence is false, then they lied.
Whichever answer you give, it will not argue well for you, so to save yourself from the shameful position such defence has put you, you refuse to talk about, saying it does not matter.

well it does matter, it matters to faithful witnesses of jehovah in that time and now, if it does not matter, God would not have given it, his followers would not have used it.
[b]Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.

The psalmist, a faithful servant of jehovah wanted people to know his name, it was recorded in the inspired word of God, showing that it meets God's approval
[b]King James Version
Ps 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth

God himself said he wanted his name known, but you say it does not matter, false doctrines has eaten deep into you.
[b]Ex 9:16But for this very reason I have kept you in existence: to show you my power and to have my name declared in all the earth.


Go and study the Hebrew and Greek words used, the word transliterated to jehovah is totally different from the word translated to Lord!

You yourself know that the Tetragrammaton has been substituted with LORD in some English bibles, the Tetragrammaton does not mean LORD. The Hebrew word used for God's name is totally different from the Hebrew word used for LORD!.


that small dose that the kjv used , is it right or wrong? answer, cus the kjv said it is right!
Secondly what is the Hebrew word that the kjv translated to Jehovah?



That fear was a plan from the devil, God himself told them his name and said he wants his name declared throughout the earth, his faithful servants wrote down his name hundreds of times in the scriptures. But when people like you came to the scene in times past, they decided it was not good to say that name again as numerous faithful servant had done in the time past, so they decided to hide it, altering the name and substituting the name with Lord when they saw it in the scriptures.
don't worry , jehovah words will be carried out, his name will be declared throughout all the earth no matter how you try to hide it using fear as an excuse!


Give an example , liar!

Jozzy4:


Oga, dont change the topic ... He was asking that since it was God that manifest in FLESH as u argue, then what do u call the woman that give birth to God in flesh ? Why not accept he is the mother of God ?

Jozzy4:
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Kikikkkikkk, this shallow guy

@ bold , Jesus is just a man when on earth ?

Jozzy4:


Correct, now shut your mouth.

solite3:
Proof that shows that Jesus is Jehovah God


Psalms 102:16 When the LORD [color=#000099]{Jehovah} shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory.
[/color] this verse is quite clear that Jehovah will appear after he has finished his work with Israel. This is a clear reference pointing to the divinity of Christ as God.


102:19 For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the LORD behold the earth;


102:20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death; also see isaiah 61:1

Psalms 102:21 To declare the name of the LORD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem; note that Jehovah himself will proclaim the name of the LORD. Compare;

John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.



John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

God really appeared on this earth, look at what Jesus said to his disciples,



John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

dolphinheart:

When it comes to translation, one word is not as good as the other, if the wrong or different word is used, it will give a different meaning. The Greek word used by Paul means "he", it does not mean "God". There is a greek word for God and Paul did not use it in that verse.

If I asked that a letter I've written should be copied and the one who copied it make a mistake in one or two words or sentences in that letter, I do not condemn the whole letter, I'll just make corrections where the mistake are made. likewise the kjv, I do not condemn the kjv as a whole, but I try to make sure that the verse I'm quoting is as accurate as possible. If i feel a verse is wrongly or falsely translated, I state it and give reasons why!. Thank God we can all check the manuscripts and try to decipher which translation is correct when two bible translations give different sentences and meaning in the same verse.



haba!, you never stay in one place, always changing your beliefs, you just said how the Hebrew word for Lord was substituted for God's name by those who were afraid. you initially claimed the word " jehovah is a mispeling, now you accept it's a name used for God.



you are trying to change the issue again, we are not discussing about if Paul called God jehovah, we are talking about the true words that Paul used in 1 timothy 3: 16, Paul did not say "god was manifest in flesh, Paul did not use the Greek word " theos"!

johnw74:
^^^
yea, just about any time is a good time to celebrate Jesus birth-God becoming man to save the World

johnw74:

Such a lie lie, It was God, it was the almighty, it was Jesus talking, John turned to see who it was talking to Him
and he saw one like "the son of man"
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Oh lying one, I copied and pasted the verse from the KJV
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
but false jw, lying is what you do, always

again, truly I copied and pasted from the KJV OH false accuser,
fancy false jw saying a Bible is adulterated when they, false jw, have removed "God" from John 1:1 and added "a god" in their adulterated book
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
the Lake of Fire awaits all antichrists, twisters-changers of God's word.
Wherever the Bible shows that the Word-Jesus Christ is God, false lie lie jw change it.

duh, how can one be so d--b
God gave revelation to Jesus, Jesus through His Angel gave it to John
Jesus gave revelation to John, it is Jesus talking to John and the Churches, not Father
when John turnerd to see who was speaking to Him
he saw "one like the Son of man"

all you do lie lie dolphinheart is lie and twist what the scriptures say
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You lie lie dolphinheart do a very bad job of twisting and rejecting the Truth, and you believe your own lies
The scriptures clearly show that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega:
Jesus says "I am Alpha and Omega" and John adds "the Almighty"

Jesus is speaking to John and the Churches, not Father:
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty

Previous verse John is talking of Jesus, "He was pierced":
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Jesus is speaking to John and the Churches, not Father:
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

John turned and looked to see who was talking to Him:
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Again, Jesus is speaking to John and the Churches, not Father:
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

God gave Jesus the revelation, Jesus through His Angel gave it to John

It is Jesus talking to John, It is Jesus talking to the Churches, John saw "one like the son of man" talking

verse 14 "Blessed are they that do his(Father's) commandments,"
"his", Jesus is talking of the Father

Jesus said: "I am the Alpha and Omega" John added "the Almighty"

johnw74:

duh, a/c dolphinheart how can one be so dum,
God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.
Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel
Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

brocab:
Its funny the JW's make me laugh always, every time you write something Dolphinheart nothing makes sense. Don't you ever study your own bible?
This is what is say's in {Matthew 1:23} From the NWT bible
{Matthew 1:23} "Look a virgin will become pregnant, and will give birth to a son, and they will name him Im-man-u-el which means when translated With us is God..

And yet they don't believe God is manifest in the flesh

And your own bible believes {Matthew 1:23} has all the answers, hypocritical on your behave isn't it..
The NWT Bible say's "With us is God" "Meaning Im-man-u-el"

brocab:
YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, are you still confused how is God's name pronounce "YHWH" the 1611 bible wrote Iehovah no "J" was mentioned, and you are trying to prove to me Jehovah is God's rightful name
LAIR.........................................................................................................

solite3:
I want dolphinheart and all other witnesses to read heb 1:10-12 and psalm 102:25-27.

Those verses are a proof that Jesus is Jehovah God, here the creation of the heavens and the earth is attributed to Jehovah in psalm 102 but in Hebrew 1 it is attributed to Jesus.

Since the scriptures told us that only Jehovah created the heavens and the earth then Jesus is Jehovah God.


Jehovah is a trinue being consisting of three persons.
Each of this person is Jehovah Almighty but different persons.
You can read up my post to understand the trinity.

Jesus is Jehovah God!
Happy Christmas

solite3:
When reading the New Testament it seems so obvious at times that Jesus is God and equal with the Father.[1] But in other passages Jesus’ full divinity is more ambiguous. I believe that conclusive proof of Jesus’ full divinity can be seen when we compare certain Old Testament verses with corresponding New Testament verses. The key to this is recognising God’s Name in Scripture.

There is only one true, supreme God—the God of the Bible—and his Name is YHWH. YHWH is usually translated as LORD (all capital letters) in English translations of the Old Testament. Most good Bible versions explain this translation in their preface. Check it out.

Out of reverence for the holiness of God, the Jews stopped saying God’s Name a couple of hundred years BC, so the correct pronunciation of YHWH is uncertain.[2] The Hebrew language does not contain vowels, but we can ascertain that the first syllable of God’s Name is probably pronounced “Yah” because it is found in the word Hallelujah (or Halleluyah). Hallelujah means “Praise the LORD” or, more correctly, “Praise YHWH”. Some Christians pronounce YHWH as “Yahweh”.[3]

Yahweh means: “I Am who I Am.” God explained his Name to Moses during the burning bush encounter when God commissioned Moses to free Israel from Egyptian bondage (Exodus 3:13-15). God’s Name, the “I Am”, gives a sense of the enigmatic, transcendent and eternal nature of God (cf. Revelation 1:.

Three infinite and eternal persons belong to this Godhead called Yahweh: (1) the Father, (2) the Son, Jesus Christ, and (3) the Holy Spirit. These three persons are bound closely together in unity of power and purpose and are often referred to as the Trinity. Yahweh is one God made up of three persons.

The fact that Jesus is YHWH (God) is seen when we compare certain OT verses with NT verses.

The fact that Jesus Christ is Yahweh can be determined by comparing the following Old Testament verses with the corresponding New Testament verses.

Isaiah 40:3 speaks about preparing the way for the LORD (Yahweh). When we compare this verse with Mark 1:3 we see that Jesus is the LORD who had the way prepared for him by John the Baptist.

In Joel 2:32a it says that whoever calls upon the Name of the LORD (Yahweh) will be saved. This verse is quoted by Peter in Acts 2:21, and by Paul in Romans 10:13. Both apostles are clearly referring to Jesus as the LORD.

In Isaiah 6:1-10 we read about the marvelous vision that Isaiah had revealing the glory of the LORD (Yahweh). John tells us in John 12:40-41 that this vision revealed the glory of Jesus.

In Isaiah 44:6, the LORD (Yahweh) refers to himself as “the First and the Last”. In Revelation 1:8 and 17, Jesus similarly refers to himself as “the Alpha and the Omega” and “the First and the Last”.

In Zechariah 12:10 the LORD (Yahweh) is speaking and says that, “they will look on Me whom they have pierced.”[4] This is obviously Jesus speaking (Psalm 22:16; John 19:34). This passage from Zechariah appears again in Revelation 1:7b and is clearly about Jesus Christ.

As Yahweh (along with the Father and the Holy Spirit) Jesus is eternal, having all the qualities and attributes of God. Even on earth, in human form, Jesus was the image of the invisible God, and the exact representation of God’s nature (Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3). Jesus is not some sort of demigod; rather, the fullness of deity (“God-ness”) dwells in him in bodily form (Colossians 2:9). Jesus Christ, born of the virgin Mary, was fully man and fully God, having both a human and divine nature at the same time.

As eternal God, Jesus Christ existed before he came to earth as a human baby. He existed before the creation of the earth. In fact, Jesus was instrumental in its creation. The Bible says that all things were created by Him, and that nothing was made without Him (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17; Hebrews 1:2). Jesus is not a created being himself.

The Scriptures teach us that there is only one God and we are commanded that we should worship no other gods (Exodus 20:3). From Scripture we can see that Jesus Christ is worshipped eternally, further proving his deity and place in the Godhead (Philippians 2:10-11; Revelation 5:9-14).

As wonderful as Yahweh’s Name is,[5] there is a name which has even greater significance and importance:

Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him a name which is above every name; that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:9-11.



Endnotes

[1] Jesus’ disciples, those closest to him, testified that Jesus is God. Peter writes “our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ” in 2 Peter 1:1; Thomas addresses Jesus as “My Lord and my God!” in John 20:28; and John called the Word/Jesus, “God” in John 1:1. Also, the apostle Paul calls Jesus “the great God and Saviour” in Titus 2:13

[2] King David had no problem with declaring the Name of God. He uses it frequently in his Psalms. In Psalm 8:1 & 9 he says (sings), “O Yahweh, our Lord, how majestic is your Name in all the earth!”
Instead of saying God’s Name, many Jews replace YHWH with “Ha’Shem” when reading from Hebrew scripture aloud. Ha’Shem means “the Name” in Hebrew.

[3] “Jehovah” is another way of saying God’s Name and appeared in old English translations of the Old Testament; but this pronunciation has fallen out of favour because it is considered inaccurate by some.

[4] Some paraphrases, such as the Good News Bible and the Living Bible, do not translate this verse accurately.

[5] “O LORD (Yahweh), our Lord (Adonai), how majestic is your Name in all the earth!” Psalm 8:1 & 9

solite3:
When reading the New Testament it seems so obvious at times that Jesus is God and equal with the Father.[1] But in other passages Jesus’ full divinity is more ambiguous. I believe that conclusive proof of Jesus’ full divinity can be seen when we compare certain Old Testament verses with corresponding New Testament verses. The key to this is recognising God’s Name in Scripture.

There is only one true, supreme God—the God of the Bible—and his Name is YHWH. YHWH is usually translated as LORD (all capital letters) in English translations of the Old Testament. Most good Bible versions explain this translation in their preface. Check it out.

Out of reverence for the holiness of God, the Jews stopped saying God’s Name a couple of hundred years BC, so the correct pronunciation of YHWH is uncertain.[2] The Hebrew language does not contain vowels, but we can ascertain that the first syllable of God’s Name is probably pronounced “Yah” because it is found in the word Hallelujah (or Halleluyah). Hallelujah means “Praise the LORD” or, more correctly, “Praise YHWH”. Some Christians pronounce YHWH as “Yahweh”.[3]

Yahweh means: “I Am who I Am.” God explained his Name to Moses during the burning bush encounter when God commissioned Moses to free Israel from Egyptian bondage (Exodus 3:13-15). God’s Name, the “I Am”, gives a sense of the enigmatic, transcendent and eternal nature of God (cf. Revelation 1:.

Three infinite and eternal persons belong to this Godhead called Yahweh: (1) the Father, (2) the Son, Jesus Christ, and (3) the Holy Spirit. These three persons are bound closely together in unity of power and purpose and are often referred to as the Trinity. Yahweh is one God made up of three persons.

The fact that Jesus is YHWH (God) is seen when we compare certain OT verses with NT verses.

The fact that Jesus Christ is Yahweh can be determined by comparing the following Old Testament verses with the corresponding New Testament verses.

Isaiah 40:3 speaks about preparing the way for the LORD (Yahweh). When we compare this verse with Mark 1:3 we see that Jesus is the LORD who had the way prepared for him by John the Baptist.

In Joel 2:32a it says that whoever calls upon the Name of the LORD (Yahweh) will be saved. This verse is quoted by Peter in Acts 2:21, and by Paul in Romans 10:13. Both apostles are clearly referring to Jesus as the LORD.

In Isaiah 6:1-10 we read about the marvelous vision that Isaiah had revealing the glory of the LORD (Yahweh). John tells us in John 12:40-41 that this vision revealed the glory of Jesus.

In Isaiah 44:6, the LORD (Yahweh) refers to himself as “the First and the Last”. In Revelation 1:8 and 17, Jesus similarly refers to himself as “the Alpha and the Omega” and “the First and the Last”.

In Zechariah 12:10 the LORD (Yahweh) is speaking and says that, “they will look on Me whom they have pierced.”[4] This is obviously Jesus speaking (Psalm 22:16; John 19:34). This passage from Zechariah appears again in Revelation 1:7b and is clearly about Jesus Christ.

As Yahweh (along with the Father and the Holy Spirit) Jesus is eternal, having all the qualities and attributes of God. Even on earth, in human form, Jesus was the image of the invisible God, and the exact representation of God’s nature (Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3). Jesus is not some sort of demigod; rather, the fullness of deity (“God-ness”) dwells in him in bodily form (Colossians 2:9). Jesus Christ, born of the virgin Mary, was fully man and fully God, having both a human and divine nature at the same time.

As eternal God, Jesus Christ existed before he came to earth as a human baby. He existed before the creation of the earth. In fact, Jesus was instrumental in its creation. The Bible says that all things were created by Him, and that nothing was made without Him (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17; Hebrews 1:2). Jesus is not a created being himself.

The Scriptures teach us that there is only one God and we are commanded that we should worship no other gods (Exodus 20:3). From Scripture we can see that Jesus Christ is worshipped eternally, further proving his deity and place in the Godhead (Philippians 2:10-11; Revelation 5:9-14).

As wonderful as Yahweh’s Name is,[5] there is a name which has even greater significance and importance:

Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him a name which is above every name; that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:9-11.



Endnotes

[1] Jesus’ disciples, those closest to him, testified that Jesus is God. Peter writes “our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ” in 2 Peter 1:1; Thomas addresses Jesus as “My Lord and my God!” in John 20:28; and John called the Word/Jesus, “God” in John 1:1. Also, the apostle Paul calls Jesus “the great God and Saviour” in Titus 2:13

[2] King David had no problem with declaring the Name of God. He uses it frequently in his Psalms. In Psalm 8:1 & 9 he says (sings), “O Yahweh, our Lord, how majestic is your Name in all the earth!”
Instead of saying God’s Name, many Jews replace YHWH with “Ha’Shem” when reading from Hebrew scripture aloud. Ha’Shem means “the Name” in Hebrew.

[3] “Jehovah” is another way of saying God’s Name and appeared in old English translations of the Old Testament; but this pronunciation has fallen out of favour because it is considered inaccurate by some.

[4] Some paraphrases, such as the Good News Bible and the Living Bible, do not translate this verse accurately.

[5] “O LORD (Yahweh), our Lord (Adonai), how majestic is your Name in all the earth!” Psalm 8:1 & 9

dolphinheart:


1. God's name is not pronounced "YHWH"
2. PLS show where I said the 1611 edition said jehovah.
3. do you know the difference between Iehovah and jehovah? I surely don't thing so.

like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just comfirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!

dolphinheart:
cus of size, I've split this post into two : part 1


IT'S EASY TO SEE YOUR MANIPULATIONS, YOU CAN ONLY REPLY ME ONLY AFTER EDITING MY POST, ONLY AFTER REMOVING CERTAIN SCRIPTURES CERTAIN EXPLANATIONS AND CERTAIN QUESTIONS WHICH SHOWS YOU TO BE FALSE .
BELOW IS THE FULL POST OF MY RESPONSE TO YOU, SHOWING WHAT YOU SAID AND HOW I RESPONSE, YOU EDITED MY POST , ONLY TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THE SAME THINGS IVE ALREADY RESPONDED TO.

johnw74:



God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel


Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

dolphinheart:

part two
CAN YOU YOUR SELF SEE HOW FAR YOU HAD TO EDIT MY POST TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I MADE JUST ONE STATEMENT? IT IS NOT BY FORCE THAT YOU MUST REPLY, IF YOU CANT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS OR EXPLAIN THOSE SCRIPTURES , WHY CANT YOU JUST LEAVE THE POST ALONE. EDITING PEOPLE'S POST SHOWS WHO YOU TRULY ARE!

johnw74:



God gave Jesus His Revelation, Jesus gave it to His Angel to give to John,
it was Jesus speaking to John through His Angel.


Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
Rev 1:2  Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 
Rev 1:3  Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. 
Greeting to the Seven Churches
Rev 1:4  John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 
Rev 1:5  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 
Rev 1:6  And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

verses 1 and 2 Jesus sent His revelation to John through His angel Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, (not who bare record of Father and testimony of Father) 

verses 1 and 5, John sent greetings to the seven Churches from Himself and from Father and Jesus Christ, but the testimony is from Jesus through His angel


Rev 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 
Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

verses 7 and 8, John shows that the one coming is Jesus, the one who was pierced
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, remember this is the record of the word of God the testimony of Jesus Christ, not the Father.
and John added "the Almighty"

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 
Rev 1:12  And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 
Rev 1:13  And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man

John heard a voice saying I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
and John turned to see who was speaking, it was one like the Son of man
it was Jesus speaking through His Angel, not the Father.
Jesus said I am Alpha and Omega the same as when he said in verse 8 I am Alpha and Omega
remember, to which John added "the almighty"

johnw74:



antichrist dolphinheart

you continue in your same old repeating lies and false accusings and confusions,
the diffrent translations you post don't show that it is Father speaking,
Jesus says He is Lord God, John calls Him the Almighty
I have not just shown but proved from the Bible that in the book of Revelation
it is Jesus speaking to John through His Angel
you are antichrist denying the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are blinded

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


and your very very many words of denying Jesus

Ecc_5:3  For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.





Jesus is Lord God the Almighty who speaks through His angel in Revelation:

brocab:
Is Dolphinheart still going on about that?

johnw74:


yea, ha ha, when all antichrist has is lies, then all he can do is keep repeat repeat repeat repeating them