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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Lumig: 9:25am On Dec 28, 2016
Ramanto:

all men are not equal. read your bible, you ever read of a female prophet of apostle? will you as a man allow a woman to wife you? think right, bros
Even biblically, the female folks have little or no say?
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by LordIsaac(m): 9:26am On Dec 28, 2016
niyihawking:

lmao........you are damn dumb I swear

you want women to start paying the groom price when they are confined to the kitchen, you want them to fend for the family and take care of in-laws when they are being discriminated against, you want them to stop thinking that sex is for when you've confined them to the oda room.....its obvious that you don't understand an iota of this subject...

some of them now suffer from lack of esteem(like princess above), most do not have what it takes to carry out the task of feeding families and in-laws cos we've killed their vibe..

I suggest that senate pass the bill if they don't want wahala o
Remain in your delusion. I didn't expect you to be capable of a rational thought...so typical of today's youth. I wouldn't bother dignifying your missive with further response.
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Godstraight(m): 9:30am On Dec 28, 2016
olasaad:

Nigerian's laws are synonymous to christian law and what you people don't realize is that the sharia law has been on ground which the North has been practicing before the advent of colonialism and the North as never stop using this laws at any point of time so I don't think you people should force ur English christian laws on Nigerian Muslims.
which English Christian law?,name them

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by LordIsaac(m): 9:33am On Dec 28, 2016
Supreme55:
Oga receive sense. Should I give you a list of things men should be able to do too? And you think men are not selling sex? What are you all afraid of?
Madam....I have stated the facts....the roles are clearly defined and have been in practice from time immemorial. And the society is what it is. If you, however, think that a man should be your roll dog in the name of marriage or responsibilities, through a bill borne of arrogance, pride and being destitute of principles, I and the Sultan will vehemently oppose it. Samson, Ahab, Adam are a few biblical examples of men who confused these roles, they paid dearly for it. Sarah called her husband lord and accorded him all respect befitting the title, that did not make her less of a woman. Get it straight, that bill is going to destroy society!

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Yonce(f): 9:35am On Dec 28, 2016
forgiveness:
When Bible writes about genealogy, Women are always silence. The genealogy of Jesus only mentioned 4 women because of their exceptional faith. When it pertained to inheritance, Women where also silence. Meaning they were never given anything. Starting with Abraham who had many children apart from Ishmael and Isaac. Abraham gave gifts to his female children but never divided the inheritance equally. When Jacob divided inheritance, nothing was giving to the only female child.


When Moses shared the current land after they conquered the inhabitants, Women were given nothing, save the daughters of Zelophehad of the family of Manasseh because he had no 'son'. Meaning if he had sons nothing for the daughters. Infact, the daughters where not allowed to marry outside the family of Manasseh. Why? So that the inheritance doesn't move to another family.

In the Bible, inheritance are giving to female only if the man has no son. Number 26 : 7.

Why? because God wants to keep name of the man. Man is the head of the house. God is the head of Man. That is the order.


Woman means' from Man' or 'came from Man'. So, how can what came from man(Woman) be equal with Man?

But Yorubas law says 'ori o ju ori lo' mean One head is not better than another'

God and Allah might love women and men as they are all children in their eyes. But, they're both sexist. It might have something to do with the fact that they're both men.....sort of.

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by niyihawking(m): 9:37am On Dec 28, 2016
LordIsaac:

Remain in your delusion. I didn't expect you to be capable of a rational thought...so typical of today's youth. I wouldn't bother dignifying your missive with further response.
come on don't be quick to be on the defensive, let reason this out. It will be impossible for our females to do all what you've listed unless they are given the chance to do so.....


its true that am still a youth, but how common I understand this and you the adult don't

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by avaa(m): 9:37am On Dec 28, 2016
carmag:


..it's sad that I share thesame country with these people...very very sad

You are not alone sir. I wake every morning asking myself why I chose to be born in this country? Of all places in the world, I had to come share a country with these dead brains.

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by math2001: 9:40am On Dec 28, 2016
Go to school the sultan of sokoto is jMuslim leader.

This is why they are calling for the arrest if pastor adeboye. Muslim and Christian leaders should not get involve in politics.
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by avaa(m): 9:44am On Dec 28, 2016
martineverest:
all men that critise sultan for his comment are hypocritites......we all know how highly chauvinistic nigerian men are.i amsure 90percent of nigerian women dont know what gender equality truelly is.if they do,they will reject it(especially those materialistic and lazy ladies)

Speak for yourself sir.

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Lumig: 9:47am On Dec 28, 2016
olayinka63:

Try to comprehend brother everything cannot go the way you want it. I can recalled that the issue of gender equality was brought up in a convention at the South East of Nigeria around two years ago, then their elders kicked against it immediately. So let us not drive this to religion, the same opinion of Sultan will be heard if you throw the gender equality issue to the south east and South South. Nigerians are not ready to be like Americans in all ramifications.
Just what I think bro. It's not about the Sultan alone even most core southerners will never allow such to stand. But most pple would be hypocritical or keep quiet now until they are asked to vote against or in support... You ll now know that 80% are against the bill

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by gloryman91: 9:51am On Dec 28, 2016
The sultan said the simple truth which can't be disputed universally. Kudos to the real man. Women still have advantage over men on inheritance matters.
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by niyihawking(m): 9:53am On Dec 28, 2016
LordIsaac:

Madam....I have stated the facts....the roles are clearly defined and have been in practice from time immemorial. And the society is what it is. If you, however, think that a man should be your roll dog in the name of marriage or responsibilities, through a bill borne of arrogance, pride and being destitute of principles, I and the Sultan will vehemently oppose it. Samson, Ahab, Adam were a few biblical examples of men who confused these roles, they paid dearly for it. Sarah called her husband lord and accorded him all respect befitting the title, that did not make her less of a woman. Get it straight, that bill is going to destroy society!
countries like Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, South Africa, Denmark, Ireland, The Netherland, Germany, Sri Lanka, Switzerland are gender equal countries.

has their societies been destroyed?

in fact, Iceland is the most peaceful country in the world, and they don't carry religious doctrines on their head like a cap.

stop driving the nation backward with your archaic mentality

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Nobody: 9:57am On Dec 28, 2016
udumosam23:
I may not agree any less with the sultan. In as much as I like the bill, and have been supporting it from unset.

Just last week we were discussing a topic that relates to rights of widows in my church at Ebonyi. I was so surprised how people held tenaciously to custom especially were bible is silent.

Believe me, various ethnic custom speaks more powerfully against this bill than religion. Its quite sad that women are this relegated in Africa and Nigeria in particular. Even if this bill is passed it will take time for us to actually accept it.

Imagine for instance, a wealthy ibo man dies leaving his wife with let's say a girl kid. The woman has right to keep some if not all his properties and if she likes she should also get married to another man while living in the home of her previous husband.

I swear it this will not work lai lai.
on point, if tribes through custodians of our culture (traditional rulers) can throw their weight behind the bill, then it will be left for Muslims to either accept or the country divides, the reason why the bill is still stalling is because some cultures don't allow gender equality, if not, who is the sultan to say a bill should not be passed because one book told them to treat their women as less humans

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Vastjoy(m): 10:03am On Dec 28, 2016
I'm fully in support of Sultan
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by profstar(m): 10:06am On Dec 28, 2016
carmag:


..it's sad that I share thesame country with these people...very very sad
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Sonn(m): 10:08am On Dec 28, 2016
Princess4ng:
Not only in Islam... Even culturally, u cant say a woman and man are equal... Even Bible said that man is d head meaning man is superior.. In some culture sef.. Women worst their husbands like gods... Am a woman, I know we should be allowed and given some right but total equality is not advisable.... E go too climb our head sef
beautiful woman with a beautiful brain
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Sonn(m): 10:13am On Dec 28, 2016
totally wrong' I go with sultan on this
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by LordIsaac(m): 10:13am On Dec 28, 2016
niyihawking:

countries like Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, South Africa, Denmark, Ireland, The Netherland, Germany, Sri Lanka, Switzerland are gender equal countries.

has their societies been destroyed?

in fact, Iceland is the most peaceful country in the world, and they don't carry religious doctrines on their head like a cap.

stop driving the nation backward with your archaic mentality
"Archaic, " you may call it. I'm positive your dad and mum are a product of it and they are still happily married(if you are not from a dysfunctional home)! And, by extension, you are sustained by it. If you however choose to deviate from the status quo in the name of comparing your country with "the first world," and the other ridden by apartheid, gay issues and a host of other vices including divorce, to mention but a few, I wish you goodluck. I'll read about its consequence on the family you will make from it on the pages of future newspapers.
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Izen: 10:20am On Dec 28, 2016
IdisuleOurOwn:


Wrong.


You can discuss intelligently without provoking others.

Bit Nigeria is actually bigger than Islam. Are wet all Muslims ni? You fanatics ehn
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Izen: 10:24am On Dec 28, 2016
Princess4ng:
Not only in Islam... Even culturally, u cant say a woman and man are equal... Even Bible said that man is d head meaning man is superior.. In some culture sef.. Women worst their husbands like gods... Am a woman, I know we should be allowed and given some right but total equality is not advisable.... E go too climb our head sef

Please speak for yourself. I'm a woman, a Christian and I fully support the gender equality bill. It doesn't take away the headship of my husband. It is not an avenue for me to disrespect him. The bill has nothing to do with who is the head of the household. Have you guys even read that bill? Half of you sound ignorant. Someone is out there trying to help your life, you're here saying rubbish. If the gender equality bill will enter your head and make you to start misbehaving to your husband, please that's on you. Don't subject the rest of us to your stupidity. Thanks.

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by princetom1(m): 10:32am On Dec 28, 2016
Gosh, i feel like weeping some times, these northerners are just too backward, undecided , not civilized at all in all aspect of life, their man just wanna keep living like gods who uses remote to control their family, isn't it bad enough. How do one say we want to share country with this set of dullards (there are some sane humans among them). Can i just have the federal republic of lagos?

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by mmb(m): 10:35am On Dec 28, 2016
carmag:


..it's sad that I share thesame country with these people...very very sad
relocate to israel, or hug a transformer
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by mmb(m): 10:37am On Dec 28, 2016
Jokerman:


Nigeria is bigger than your Islam....
may God guide you and show you the light, accept Islam as a religion
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Raheemzee(m): 10:40am On Dec 28, 2016
FriendChoice:
In Islam a woman has no financial obligation and the economical responsibility lies on the shoulders of the man.

* Before a woman is married it is the duty of the father or brother to look after the lodging, boarding, clothing and other financial requirements of the woman.

* After she is married it is the duty of the husband or the son.

* Islam holds the man financially responsible for fulfilling the needs of his family. In order to do be able to fulfill the responsibility the men get double the share of the inheritance.


For example, if a man dies and after giving the shares of other relatives, if the children (i.e one son and one daughter) inherit N150,0000the son will
inherit One Hundred Thousand Naira and the
daughter only Fifty Thousand Naira.

Out of the one hundred thousand which the son inherits, as his duty towards his family, he may have to spend on them almost the entire amount or say about eighty thousand and thus he has a small percentage of inheritance, say about twenty thousand, left for himself.

On the other hand, the daughter, who inherits fifty thousand, is not bound to spend a single penny on anybody. She can keep the entire amount for herself. Would you prefer inheriting one hundred thousand Naira and spending eighty thousand from it, or inheriting fifty thousand rupees and having the entire amount to yourself?


Islam gave the right to the women to inherit. In several Verses of theQur’an - in several verses, it is mentioned that a woman, irrespective she is a wife or she is a mother, or a sister, or a daughter, she has a right to inherit. And it has been fixed by God Almighty in the Qur’an.

bros u ar blessed!

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by omojeesu(m): 10:40am On Dec 28, 2016
Dalek:
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful....

Humanity will overcome...

Correct.

I'm glad you didn't refer to Jesus nor the Bible. Because, then you will be wrong.
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Raheemzee(m): 10:43am On Dec 28, 2016
omonnakoda:


Once again long story can't we simply break up so Muslims have their own country and those who are not interested in what the Quran says have their own?
baba who even want una b4 sef
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by Raheemzee(m): 10:45am On Dec 28, 2016
true talk sultan...most ppl here know d truth BT just because of religious diff dey won't say it
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by princetom1(m): 10:47am On Dec 28, 2016
Princess4ng:
Not only in Islam... Even culturally, u cant say a woman and man are equal... Even Bible said that man is d head meaning man is superior.. In some culture sef.. Women worst their husbands like gods... Am a woman, I know we should be allowed and given some right but total equality is not advisable.... E go too climb our head sef


To see this coming from a woman, i weep.
Do anyone follows u to ur matrimonial home and tell u to disrespect ur husband? Their are pressing issues on gender equality that needs quick solution,

1) In the north, alot of females children dont go to school bcoz they belong to d oda room and kitchen
2) They are abused sexually and emotionally
3) No one is ready to fight for d ladies, they are on their own
4) They basically have no right to anything than wat their husband command
5) This make them stark illeterate, which in turns leads to many other vices, boko haram comes to mind, child mortality, and countless others
6) I have hausas and Muslims all around me and sometimes, i feel bad for the ladies, though Muslims in other parts are different
7) Child marriage

Sometimes, u consider the advantages of something with its disadvantages,
God knows, if u disrespect ur husband, u will marry urself, even if u are a traditional religion practitioner, and no court will say otherwise tongue angry

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Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by forgiveness: 10:55am On Dec 28, 2016
Yonce:


God and Allah might love women and men as they are all children in their eyes. But, they're both sexist. It might have something to do with the fact that they're both men.....sort of.


God's love towards man and woman but there is also God's will.

God created man in his own image and likeness, meaning we are God. Does it makes Man equal with God?
Re: Sultan Tells Senate To Reject Gender Equality Bill by omonnakoda: 11:03am On Dec 28, 2016
Recently there was a judgment about Inheritance rights for Ibo women at the Supreme Court.
To my mind that judgment makes this bill academic and unnecessary.
The debate on this thread also exposes the hypocrisy of some on this thread who argued against the judgment but now want to score points against Islam.
It is important to be consistent in our arguments

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