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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by TANKDESTROYER(m): 12:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by DMerciful(m): 12:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
If it was GEJ era u'll hear N534b missing grin. GEJ suffer for the press hands but Bubu is dealing ruthlessly with them to the extent of under-reporting the almost 800 killed in southern Kaduna.....there was a country

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by HarveySpecter1: 12:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
Crap. They lost or they gained. They bill Nigerians and provide no power so how the f0rk did they lose such amount.

Unless, the rocket scientist stole the money.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by seunlayi(m): 12:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
Are we to blame GEJ also for this?
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by omowolewa: 12:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
Times 3 of that amount is the extra cost to business.

I think government should look into schemes that would bring generation and distributions to micro districtand closer to people.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jan 02, 2017
HarveySpecter1:
Crap. They lost or they gained. They bill Nigerians and provide no power so how they f0rk did they lose such amount.

Unless, the rocket scientist stole the money.

The rocket scientist and his ex military general led government no longer control power.

Power has been privatized since 2014 by the zoologist.

And (on a more serious note) for good reasons power was privatized.....we need large amounts of money to fix the whole thing...and PHCN was not doing a good job raising that money.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by maxzzo1(m): 12:37pm On Jan 02, 2017
dis govt lack sense......
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by SmartMugu: 12:38pm On Jan 02, 2017
Emekamex:
For the power sector to be revamped:
1. The grid system should be dismantled.
2. Power generating companies should be allowed to send power to where ever or whom ever there deem fit.
3. Doing this will bring in more investors into the power sector as it will be profitable than before.
4. Government should hands off and stop interfering in the decisions of power sector players.

Anything short of this will lead to more failure.

You nailed it. Sane countries do exactly what you mentioned. It appears in Nigeria, everyone must rely on the government for electricity, whereas startup firms can supply cities with 24-7 electricity in sane countries.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Odunharry(m): 12:39pm On Jan 02, 2017
candidbabe:
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Are u Hungry
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jan 02, 2017
SmartMugu:


You nailed it. Sane countries do exactly what you mentioned. It appears in Nigeria, everyone must rely on the government for electricity, whereas startup firms can supply cities with 24-7 electricity in sane countries.

Actually, government has hands off power mostly in Nigeria....except for transmission.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by humannature7(m): 12:40pm On Jan 02, 2017
They will continue to loose more and more since they cannot supply light to nigerians for two hours in a whole day.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Flashh: 12:40pm On Jan 02, 2017
ajepako:
This got me LOL

grin grin grin grin grin
Or maybe we should spice it.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Rick9(m): 12:45pm On Jan 02, 2017
A south African once tweeted.

My President is the worst in the world
How can we have light for just 23 Hours,
How can we be in darkness for 1 whole Hour.

@Topic so why can't they fix the gas issues instead of making noise about it ?
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by SmartMugu: 12:49pm On Jan 02, 2017
9jakohai:


Actually, government has hands off power mostly in Nigeria....except for transmission.
Oh, thanks for that info. The losses declared here are around transmission, and I think that should be handed off too, don't you?
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by shommydoo(m): 1:00pm On Jan 02, 2017
God will save us in this Country...since 1960 we have been ourself's problem till date. Power sector is worsen day by day
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by basilo102: 1:08pm On Jan 02, 2017
Emekamex:
For the power sector to be revamped:
1. The grid system should be dismantled.
2. Power generating companies should be allowed to send power to where ever or whom ever there deem fit.
3. Doing this will bring in more investors into the power sector as it will be profitable than before.
4. Government should hands off and stop interfering in the decisions of power sector players.

Anything short of this will lead to more failure.
Nigeria will never allow this, useless country, this backward country keep dragging everybody backward and the lazy ones are OK with it
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by omohayek: 1:19pm On Jan 02, 2017
9jakohai:


Actually, government has hands off power mostly in Nigeria....except for transmission.

That's not quite right. The government also still sets price caps on how much the DISCOs can charge, and currently they have been set way below profitable levels. In addition, the government is the biggest debtor to the DISCOs and GENCOs, owing 3 times what retail customers owe.

Transmission is obviously a problem, as even if the GENCOs and DISCOs had no debt, the maximum that can be transmitted is still only 5,000MW. Still, if the FG were really serious about freeing up the power sector, most of them would probably prefer to deal with business customers willing to pay market rates for power, rather than waste their time on millions of retail "customers" who mostly either refuse to pay their bills, or steal electricity outright.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by veekid(m): 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2017
happney65:
Veekid gbeseee reee ohhhh
grin
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Cletus77(m): 1:43pm On Jan 02, 2017
The best way is to ReShuffle Nigeria.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Paentera(m): 1:47pm On Jan 02, 2017
SmartMugu:
I smell lies. "Gas shortage" was blamed last year, now we are starting a new year and same "Gas Shortage" is being blamed.

If "Gas Shortage" has been the historical problem, doesn't it make sense to rather talk about measures to resolve it than to continue blaming "Gas Shortage" everytime?
Where does Ghana, South Africa etc get gas from and their populace dont hear of "Gas Shortage" everytime? Mars?

When losses are declared, someone must be at the benefiting end, and it's definitely not the average Nigerian. So, who's benefiting from these losses if not the elite politicians and their cronies?

Take a look at this analysis and understand why it is easier for Ghana to have constant supply:

Progressively Expensive (Electricity Company of Ghana)
N1,292.53 - Cost of 50 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N25.81/kWh
N4,062.04 - Cost of 100 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N40.62/kWh
N9,409.31 - Cost of 200 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N47.05/kWh

http://www.ecgonline.info/index.php/customer-care/services/tariff.html

Pay As You Go
N1,065.00 - Cost of 50 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N2,130.00 - Cost of 100 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N4,260.00 - Cost of 200 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh

What this analysis shows us is a cost reflective tariff in Ghana which means cost of all inputs are paid for by the tariff with no need for subsidies. In other words, Ghana's electricity industry pays for itself. In the case of Nigeria (which has the cheapest electricity tariffs in the world), the tariffs cannot adequately pay for the value provided by the whole chain from generation - transmission - distribution, hence leading to shortages. To cut the story short, tariffs set in Nigeria in 2015 (at N198/$1) are not enough to pay for the value created in the industry at the current rate of $309/$1 meaning that gas companies (who sell gas in $$) find it profitable to sell their products internationally where they get full payment than to the Power industry that cannot pay for its products.

If we have 40,000MW capacity but cost reflective tariffs are not introduced to the industry or as an alternative, tariffs subsidized (very inefficient & abuse prone) by the government, there will still be issues in the Power sector.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by wexyee: 1:52pm On Jan 02, 2017
candidbabe:
FTC. on 2nd January 2017. My case is indeed different. Good things are already coming my way this new year..

Back to the topic
Whoever that is expecting something positive in this buhari administration need to have his brain examined. I have said it time without number that buhari has nothing to offer Nigerians.
lol coming from a believer of the god of adeboye
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Paentera(m): 1:53pm On Jan 02, 2017
Rick9:
A south African once tweeted.

My President is the worst in the world
How can we have light for just 23 Hours,
How can we be in darkness for 1 whole Hour.

@Topic so why can't they fix the gas issues instead of making noise about it ?

Fixing this simply means no caps on tariffs or one that takes into the realities of the market.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Preator: 1:57pm On Jan 02, 2017
SmartMugu:


You nailed it. Sane countries do exactly what you mentioned. It appears in Nigeria, everyone must rely on the government for electricity, whereas startup firms can supply cities with 24-7 electricity in sane countries.
if the sector is not regulated, the DisCos will milk Nigeria dry since they have virtual monopoly.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by BraniacX(m): 2:01pm On Jan 02, 2017
shamecurls:


Did you read the article or you just jumped into conclusion?
Dullard's nairaland defender in chief!!
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by AntiWailer: 2:09pm On Jan 02, 2017
candidbabe:
FTC. on 2nd January 2017. My case is indeed different. Good things are already coming my way this new year..

Back to the topic
Whoever that is expecting something positive in this buhari administration need to have his brain examined. I have said it time without number that buhari has nothing to offer Nigerians.

With the second paragraph, your case is actually the same as wailer's case.

You are obviously a baba Ijebu christian. Pay tithe and offering great and expect millions of blessing. You dnt understand anything about the scriptures .
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Preator: 2:09pm On Jan 02, 2017
Paentera:


Take a look at this analysis and understand why it is easier for Ghana to have constant supply:

Progressively Expensive (Electricity Company of Ghana)
N1,292.53 - Cost of 50 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N25.81/kWh
N4,062.04 - Cost of 100 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N40.62/kWh
N9,409.31 - Cost of 200 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N47.05/kWh

http://www.ecgonline.info/index.php/customer-care/services/tariff.html

Pay As You Go
N1,065.00 - Cost of 50 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N2,130.00 - Cost of 100 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N4,260.00 - Cost of 200 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh

What this analysis shows us is a cost reflective tariff in Ghana which means cost of all inputs are paid for by the tariff with no need for subsidies. In other words, Ghana's electricity industry pays for itself. In the case of Nigeria (which has the cheapest electricity tariffs in the world), the tariffs cannot adequately pay for the value provided by the whole chain from generation - transmission - distribution, hence leading to shortages. To cut the story short, tariffs set in Nigeria in 2015 (at N198/$1) are not enough to pay for the value created in the industry at the current rate of $309/$1 meaning that gas companies (who sell gas in $$) find it profitable to sell their products internationally where they get full payment than to the Power industry that cannot pay for its products.

If we have 40,000MW capacity but cost reflective tariffs are not introduced to the industry or as an alternative, tariffs subsidized (very inefficient & abuse prone) by the government, there will still be issues in the Power sector.
smart.
The current price of power in Nigeria is not cost reflective. of this nonreflective tarrif, an average DisCo still lose 56% to ATC&C losses. Most Nigerians,(especially shops and those with boreholes and ACs) engage in hanging, tapping, shunting and Meter bypass. The DisCo staff Also prefer u tip them 2k than to collect the actual bill leading to further losses(in case u don't know, those money u pay those NEPA 2 guys stays in their pocket). if current situation persists, we will still have epileptic 3000MW by 2030. As the rocket scientist said, it really doesn't take much to fix our power situation but that's only for a government that is competent and has the political will. sadly, Nigeria hasn't been blessed with one yet.

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Just30: 2:17pm On Jan 02, 2017
Paentera:


Take a look at this analysis and understand why it is easier for Ghana to have constant supply:

Progressively Expensive (Electricity Company of Ghana)
N1,292.53 - Cost of 50 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N25.81/kWh
N4,062.04 - Cost of 100 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N40.62/kWh
N9,409.31 - Cost of 200 kWh (Electricity Company of Ghana) N47.05/kWh

http://www.ecgonline.info/index.php/customer-care/services/tariff.html

Pay As You Go
N1,065.00 - Cost of 50 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N2,130.00 - Cost of 100 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh
N4,260.00 - Cost of 200 kWh (Ikeja Electric, Lagos) N21.30/kWh

What this analysis shows us is a cost reflective tariff in Ghana which means cost of all inputs are paid for by the tariff with no need for subsidies. In other words, Ghana's electricity industry pays for itself. In the case of Nigeria (which has the cheapest electricity tariffs in the world), the tariffs cannot adequately pay for the value provided by the whole chain from generation - transmission - distribution, hence leading to shortages. To cut the story short, tariffs set in Nigeria in 2015 (at N198/$1) are not enough to pay for the value created in the industry at the current rate of $309/$1 meaning that gas companies (who sell gas in $$) find it profitable to sell their products internationally where they get full payment than to the Power industry that cannot pay for its products.

If we have 40,000MW capacity but cost reflective tariffs are not introduced to the industry or as an alternative, tariffs subsidized (very inefficient & abuse prone) by the government, there will still be issues in the Power sector.
Now I understand why NNPC did so much lobbying to win a 10years LNG supply contract with our VRA in Ghana

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Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Newmanluckyman(m): 2:25pm On Jan 02, 2017
... Under whose watch? I thought that there was a mysterious sherrif in town. That can't allow such to happen. Also with the mystical sherrif body aura, Nigerian problems will be automatically solved.
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by Abdurlarh: 2:40pm On Jan 02, 2017
heheeeeeeeee
is it? cheesy
Re: Power Sector Loses N534b In 356 Days by olisaEze(m): 2:59pm On Jan 02, 2017
Mazi Lai Mohammed could you please come and tell us again about oga @ d top's famous "body language " again grin

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