TRendlona:

Did Messi win the Ballon D'or before Guardiola's arrival?

Immaterial.
No body wins the Ballon D'Or before they shine.

TRendlona:


Man City isn't a team that fits Guardiola' style of play. We all know Guardiola likes plays from the keeper to the defenders, to the midfielders and then launches the attack with the forwards. He likes it when his players pass around and maintain possession. Players like Fernando, Fernadino, Kolarov, Sterling, Stones etc aren't really good at this style of play. If Arsenal appoints Guardiola I know he'll make a very great change because there are players in Arsenal that can easily adapt to his style of play.

Players also contribute to the success of a coach not just the coach's ability to change the team.

We are slowly getting to an agreeable point.

Pep's tactics are difficult to play. This is because you need players with specific skill set (eg ball control, leg work, movement off the ball, etc) to accomplish it. Such players are usually of the highest calibre eg Messi.

But a coach like Klopp has his own tactic, high pressing which is energy sapping. You need donkey-players to do it.

Mou needs extremely disciplined players.

Pep's problem is imposing his style on players who can't cope. Pep needs big players. That's what I try to let you and Raumdeuter realise.

Spy360:

We are slowly getting to an agreeable point.

Pep's tactics are difficult to play. This is because you need players with specific skill set (eg ball control, leg work, movement off the ball, etc) to accomplish it. Such players are usually of the highest calibre eg Messi.

But a coach like Klopp has his own tactic, high pressing which is energy sapping. You need donkey-players to do it.

Mou needs extremely disciplined players.

Pep's problem is imposing his style on players who can't cope. Pep needs big players. That's what I try to let you and Ramdeuter realise.

Every coach has specific style and they need specific type of players to play their style

Klopp needs hardworking players. Players with lungs of horses who can run for entire 90mins. If you are very skillfull with great touch but lazy Klopp cant work with you. e.g no matter Ozil skill Klopp wont work with him. He prefers hardworkers first. Klopp will find it hard working with a busquets or Xavi

On the flip side, Pep will work with an Ozil type of player, a player that thinks, look up make a pass not necessary having lungs of a horse, but a thinking player. You said pep needs big players, But one of his first thing as a coach was to sell Ronaldinho, He didnt get along with Zlatan and Ribery either. Are these players not big enough? The common thing with all these players is they have a tendency to do overskill and showboat

Mourinho likes disciplined players. Discipline and hardwork are important for him. If you are skilled its an added advantage but first you must be disciplined. Do only what you need to do to beat the opponent, dont do anything just because you feel like it.

Wenger is also unique, He needs players who are born losers, mental midgets, Players with no drive and desire in life aside to be mediocre. Not bottom of the class and not top either, players who will equalize against Bournemouth and spend the next week taking selfies. Players who on one day you will think they are absolutely world class and for the next 6 days be wondering how they became footballers. Players like Walcott, Giroud Ramsey.

Typical Pep players wont work under Mourinho , Klopp type of players wont work under Wenger etc

Klopp will vomit with Pep type of players, Pep will get a migraine with Klopp type of players while Mourinho will personally murder Wenger type of players

raumdeuter:


Wenger is also unique, He needs players who are born losers, mental midgets, Players with no drive and desire in life aside to be mediocre. Not bottom of the class and not top either, players who will equalize against Bournemouth and spend the next week taking selfies. Players who on one day you will think they are absolutely world class and for the next 6 days be wondering how they became footballers. Players like Walcott, Giroud Ramsey.

Typical Pep players wont work under Mourinho , Klopp type of players wont work under Wenger etc

Klopp will vomit with Pep type of players, Pep will get a migraine with Klopp type of players while Mourinho will personally murder Wenger type of players

I took away your initial paragraphs because I agree with them.

The quoted are some jokes right?

Because Wenger is a type a manager that works with anything.

Wenger plays a similar style with Pep but does not require big names to do it, hence your 'mediocre' list.

That Wenger actually uses those players you mentioned proves why he has my rating.

By the way, on the Bornemouth game, we didn't celebrate for drawing, but for not given trolls like you a chance for a New Year Party. And I believe that is why you are UNHAPPY. :p

Spy360:

We are slowly getting to an agreeable point.

Pep's tactics are difficult to play. This is because you need players with specific skill set (eg ball control, leg work, movement off the ball, etc) to accomplish it. Such players are usually of the highest calibre eg Messi.

But a coach like Klopp has his own tactic, high pressing which is energy sapping. You need donkey-players to do it.

Mou needs extremely disciplined players.

Pep's problem is imposing his style on players who can't cope. Pep needs big players. That's what I try to let you and Raumdeuter realise.

I don't agree with the emboldened. Busquets, Pique etc weren't big players before Guardiola's arrival but because they easily adapted to Pep's style because they had the potentials in them. Today, they're football legends. Pep needs players that can adapt to his pattern that's all.

Spy360:

Immaterial.

No body wins the Ballon D'Or before they shine.

Why didn't Messi win the Ballon D'or during frank rijkaard's time?

Davidbanky:
Boa Baba !

I hope say Apoche cra crash never go pokun so oh. After all the energy he has wasted on his campaign of calumny na so the recognition dey flow like River Limpopo

raumdeuter:
Thiago injured. Na so e dey start

https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2017/01/thiago-suffers-muscle-injury

Just have to hope he is back in time for Arsenal. He and Kimmich have been our best mids this season

A40:

I hope say Apoche cra crash never go pokun so oh. After all the energy he has wasted on his campaign of calumny na so the recognition dey flow like River Limpopo

hahahahahahaha .. idiaaat of a person

TRendlona:



I don't agree with the emboldened. Busquets, Pique etc weren't big players before Guardiola's arrival but because they easily adapted to Pep's style because they had the potentials in them. Today, they're football legends. Pep needs players that can adapt to his pattern that's all.

Everybody knows Pep was lucky to have met a set of very good players.

It's like United's class of 92. Arsene's 02-04 invincible squad.

Other's say he is lucky...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-city-boss-pep-guardiola-8787543

Even Pep agrees...

http://www.beinsports.com/us/premier-league/news/pep-guardiola-says-hes-good-at-his-job-but-al/411319

Why then are you arguing

When Pep got to Barca Xavi was about to be sold before Pep convinced him to stay, Pique was in Man Utd, Busquets and Pedro were in the youth team, Dani Alves was in Sevilla

These players became starters and key members in the Pep Barca that dominated football

TRendlona:



I don't agree with the emboldened. Busquets, Pique etc weren't big players before Guardiola's arrival but because they easily adapted to Pep's style because they had the potentials in them. Today, they're football legends. Pep needs players that can adapt to his pattern that's all.

Pique was already an OK player who was in the first team squad at the biggest club in the UK. So it's not like Pique was entirely without talent.

Both Pique and Busquets were lucky to play for teams where they don't actually have to defend but at least Pique knows how to defend.

Busquets is just an overhyped piece of nepotistic catalan trash, who isnt better than Wilfred Ndidi

Which trophies would Bayern win this time?

Kicker: Jerome Boateng will be out until the beginning of March, which means he will miss the 2 legs against Arsenal in the CL

Dani Alves makes the FIFPro World XI for the 6th time, Lahm made it twice.

WHen was the last time a player who played in EPL from Jan to December made FIFpro? Maybe they will now tell us awads dont matter
you forget this place.

SIRcumalot:

WHen was the last time a player who played
in EPL from Jan to December made FIFpro?
Maybe they will now tell us awads dont
matter

you forget this place.

You get answer to am?

raumdeuter:

You get answer to am?

make I ask google first I dey come .

Where Boateng dey for Fifa Pro List? If to say nah JT, e for don sweep up the award

chic2pimp:
Where Boateng dey for Fifa Pro List? If to say nah JT, e for don sweep up the award

Where Terry dey for world cup final?

raumdeuter:


Where Terry dey for world cup final?

Team achievement!

chic2pimp:
Team achievement!

And is it not players who make the team? If a Boateng didnt put that type of performance Germany will never win that world cup

If Terry was performing like Boatank maybe Engerland will win something

bykebyke:
Dani Alves makes the FIFPro World XI for the 6th time, Lahm made it twice.

No need for long story just show Dani Alves own

SIRcumalot:

WHen was the last time a player who played
in EPL from Jan to December made FIFpro?
Maybe they will now tell us awads dont
matter

you forget this place.

Lmaoo. People all over the webspace are now questioning the authenticity of these awards. This is what we were telling Apoche cra cra, Rotundus Rotundata and other individual award lovers that these awards are dodgy and often lack merit

Ibime Rotundus is now asking how Iniesta take make list. Confusion

.

raumdeuter:


And is it not players who make the team? If a Boateng didnt put that type of performance Germany will never win that world cup

If Terry was performing like Boatank maybe Engerland will win something

Says who? If He did not put up that kind of performance, Hummels would have done it.

Well the same could be said of the following international players who either are yet to win anything or never won anything for their respective countries. Messi, Figo, Nedved, Rui Costa, Robben,Davids, Seedorf, Baresi,Maldini, Khan, Ballack. See where I am going?

chic2pimp:

Says who? If He did not put up that kind of performance, Hummels would have done it.

Well the same could be said of the following international players who either are yet to win anything or never won anything for their respective countries. Messi, Figo, Nedved, Rui Costa, Robben,Davids, Seedorf, Baresi,Maldini, Khan, Ballack. See where I am going?

ALl these people will point to performances in key games where they have bailed their team out in very top games

Messi has several CL final performances, Ballack took his team to a world cup final, Kahn won a CL for his team, Seedorf won several CL titles for his team, Robben won a CL final for his team etc

Only Terry we cannot see anything meaningful he has contributed to his team in key games he is always missing or found wanting

A40:
Lmaoo. People all over the webspace are now questioning the authenticity of these awards. This is what we were telling Apoche cra cra, Rotundus Rotundata and other individual award lovers that these awards are dodgy and often lack merit

Ibime Rotundus is now asking how Iniesta take make list. Confusion

Thats why its hilarious see ibime who just a few weeks ago was an awards whooree is now asking what Iniesta did to be getting nominated. While he was asking us to inquire from 200 coaches and captains who voted Terry but forgot to ask the over 200 coaches and captains who keep voting Iniesta

Ibime is a bleeping disgrace like Drogba said

raumdeuter:


Every coach has specific style and they need specific type of players to play their style

Klopp needs hardworking players. Players with lungs of horses who can run for entire 90mins. If you are very skillfull with great touch but lazy Klopp cant work with you. e.g no matter Ozil skill Klopp wont work with him. He prefers hardworkers first. Klopp will find it hard working with a busquets or Xavi

On the flip side, Pep will work with an Ozil type of player, a player that thinks, look up make a pass not necessary having lungs of a horse, but a thinking player. You said pep needs big players, But one of his first thing as a coach was to sell Ronaldinho, He didnt get along with Zlatan and Ribery either. Are these players not big enough? The common thing with all these players is they have a tendency to do overskill and showboat

Mourinho likes disciplined players. Discipline and hardwork are important for him. If you are skilled its an added advantage but first you must be disciplined. Do only what you need to do to beat the opponent, dont do anything just because you feel like it.

Wenger is also unique, He needs players who are born losers, mental midgets, Players with no drive and desire in life aside to be mediocre. Not bottom of the class and not top either, players who will equalize against Bournemouth and spend the next week taking selfies. Players who on one day you will think they are absolutely world class and for the next 6 days be wondering how they became footballers. Players like Walcott, Giroud Ramsey.

Typical Pep players wont work under Mourinho , Klopp type of players wont work under Wenger etc

Klopp will vomit with Pep type of players, Pep will get a migraine with Klopp type of players while Mourinho will personally murder Wenger type of players

Na abuse you abuse Wenger no be description. lol.

raumdeuter:



Wenger is also unique, He needs players who are born losers, mental midgets, Players with no drive and desire in life aside to be mediocre. Not bottom of the class and not top either, players who will equalize against Bournemouth and spend the next week taking selfies. Players who on one day you will think they are absolutely world class and for the next 6 days be wondering how they became footballers. Players like Walcott, Giroud Ramsey.

Hahahaha this guy done finish our life.

Thunder will fire you, i guarantee it

raumdeuter:


Thats why its hilarious see ibime who just a few weeks ago was an awards whooree is now asking what Iniesta did to be getting nominated. While he was asking us to inquire from 200 coaches and captains who voted Terry but forgot to ask the over 200 coaches and captains who keep voting Iniesta

Ibime is a bleeping disgrace like Drogba said

Very confused individual. One day he would see the light

raumdeuter:


ALl these people will point to performances in key games where they have bailed their team out in very top games

Messi has several CL final performances, Ballack took his team to a world cup final, Kahn won a CL for his team, Seedorf won several CL titles for his team, Robben won a CL final for his team etc

Only Terry we cannot see anything meaningful he has contributed to his team in key games he is always missing or found wanting

All these nah meaningless opaks yarns.

Show me the medals those aforementioned players won for their respective countries was what I asked not their performances in key games