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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 2:35am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:really you know the mi35m's weapons suite? u heard of hermes-k ATGM with 30km range? let me be fair- the vikhr ATGM or kornet EM? the mi35M can carry AAMs too russian ugroza laser guidance kit can be added to dumb rockets too you know? i was talking about the aircraft itself |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 2:42am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:Alright naf got its first mi24s around the Liberian crisis |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:52am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:hermes-k is not integrated onto the MI35....so its irrelevant Kornet range 8000m vs Mokopa 10000m Konet penatration 1300mm RHA vs 1350mm RHA Mokopa. Vikhr range 10000m penetration 1000mmRHA Also there are no AAM integrated on the Mi35 so again your argument is baseless!! Yeah FZs are dedicated Lazer guided rockets, hence they have a 6km range, not some lazer kits fitted to dumb rockets! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 3:06am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:kornet EM(notice the EM?) is 8000-10000 What?? if i get u correctly -AAM cant be integrated on the mi35M? A s13 rocket with a laser guided kit reduces its range?? N.B rooivalk uses V3C darter and not A darter still not seeing any beater o! 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:11am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Nope according to Sipri Nigeria received its firs mi24 in 2000!! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 3:14am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:i can list a number of materiel we got without sipiri or its likes recording it |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:17am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Kornet penetration 1300mm RHA vs Mokopa penetation 1350mm RHA It cost millions to integrate weapon systems on to respective platforms, avionic/combat suits have to be modified and upgraded to accommodate new systems, as i said this is real life, Rooivalk is integrated with an AAM, Mi35 is not! Not about range its about how accurate it is at range, dedicated Lazer Rocket vs Lazer kit fitted to DUMB rockets, which do you think is more accurate? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:18am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Cool story bro!! But lets test it, you name the weapon system and ill try to find it on Sipri!! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 3:22am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:yes it costs millions(or less) to integrate (doesnt take away the fact it is integrable) the ugroza Circular error probable(CEP) is about 0.8 to 1.8 m while the FZ claims <1m in fact it adds a first of its kind tech -impulse steering so u were saying? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 3:36am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:i thought u'd never ask d20 howitzer - reported as 7 yet we own 11units apr21 howitzer -undereported m46 arty oto melara 105mm if memory serves me shaldag mk3 this is but a few 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:00am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:That's a ret@rded argument, if i had to dumb down that low i could also say the Rooivalk can be integrated with the hermes K. yes <1m at 6km!! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:25am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:M46 listed(also known as M82) BM21 grand listed(APR40 and APR21) D20 listed oto melara listed(M-56 105mm towed gun) Shaldag listed All of them are there bro!! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 4:26am On Jan 10, 2017 |
iblawi:Again doctrine! Like I said APCs can only deliver troops but support them! An IFV will carry troops and support them Even if you mount a HMG or cannon that will still be inefficient. If the Hind design was so effective you would have seen the world developing such a helicopters with troop carrying capabilities. But from Europe, India to China attack helicopters are still taking the shape of the Cobra with a tandem cockpit and no troop carrying capabilities. 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:46am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:either underreported of how many units we own or just added meanwhile the mi35M can cary igĺa V AAM |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:51am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:retarded..sorry for you Einstein u havent proved any thing that is a beater yet as the ugroza is 0.8-1.3m at the same range (can be mounted on as large as the 122mm s13 rocket) |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:56am On Jan 10, 2017 |
MikeCZA:you are so adamant the mi35M is an AH first before a troop carrier 2 Likes |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:01am On Jan 10, 2017 |
kabe1:Again that's his a nickname! It performs well at sea level conditions! Why do you think the Indians are pursuing that attack helicopter with better hot and high performance. It isn't cheating anything but you failing to comprehend things. The F-2 round is 20×139mm this means the round is longer with flatter trajectory. 250m to beyond 5km. The GSh-23 round is 23×115mm this means the round is bigger in diameter then the 20×139mm but shorter. This F-2 has a higher muzzle velocity now explain to us! What does this mean? The Hind makes strafing runs similar to fixed wing aircraft. Again the missiles the helicopter carries exposes her to danger. Unlike missiles the Hellfire with enables Apache to fully take advantage of it's N.O.E capabilities. Also explain to me what is "location range finder and the latest laser range finder"? Dude just say it you are augubugubu! 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:02am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Citation please! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:08am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Hermes-k is carried by KA-52k. List weapon intergrated on the Mi-35M hind E! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 5:16am On Jan 10, 2017 |
tdayof:Lemons and apples! Ask Nemesis why India loves the Cheetah helicopter! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 5:43am On Jan 10, 2017 |
MikeCZA:Give me 2 I will give you five. 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 6:04am On Jan 10, 2017 |
tdayof:You can't provide them. moving along! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 6:47am On Jan 10, 2017 |
MikeCZA: Don't chicken out. 1 Like |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:26am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:O.8-1.3m vs <1m I'll take <1m |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:27am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Odunayaw:Nope numbers are exactly how many you have. Took you long enought , so how does the igla compare to the a-darter 5th gen aam?.....this is a rhetorically question as the tow cannot be compared! |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 7:35am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:lie from the devils chambers. have shame at least once. |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:38am On Jan 10, 2017 |
giles14:Why would I lie, when the truth hurts more? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by giles14(m): 8:00am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:what truth? |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 8:08am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115: The same Mokopa that missed target at 8000m? Your weapons are overrated. 2 Likes |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 8:16am On Jan 10, 2017 |
MikeCZA:Is this for carrying troops? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UY5Sb674VQ 2 Likes |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by M14A1: 8:53am On Jan 10, 2017 |
jln115:I'm not trying to get in on the argument, Eastern European pilots were already living at 97SOG and flying Hinds before 2000 |
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 10, 2017 |
iblawi:Fired by the Rooivalk, designated by a totally different platform(Hawk LIFT) and it just barely missed.....fvcking impressive, if you understand the integration needed to pull something of like that! |
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