dalaman:


Which part of the US Constitution was gotten from Christian /Judaism? Did you just make this one up as usual?

Go and read it

felixomor:


We r discussing good and evil
And u r using a country that a will defeat your morality argument...
Or have u forgotten the defense u people put up when a thread was opened on atheist mass murderers?

By the way, chinese religions which are mainly 3 contributed to the laws..
What next?

what nonsense religion contributed? the major "religions" in China are more of culture than religion
it involved NO god

try again

DoctorAlien:
No "atheist" has been able to give us the reason why rape or murder is bad absolutely. Could it be that they are not really moral subjectivists as they claim?

They are only trying to hang on some shreds of morality so they wont be despised like the atheists of old

felixomor:


Go and read it

I have read it and nothing like what you are saying appears inside.

hopefulLandlord:


what nonsense religion contributed? the major "religions" in China are more of culture than religion
it involved NO god

try again

Hehehe
Is there religion in china?
Yes or No?

dalaman:


I have read it and nothing like what you are saying appears inside.

Read it again

felixomor:

Hehehe
Is there religion in china?
Yes or No?

Hehehehehehehehe

can there be right and wrong without a god? Yes or No?

hopefulLandlord:

Hehehehehehehehe

can there be absolute morals without a god? Yes or No?

Oh so, u r the one dodging question now....
U see?

felixomor:


They are only trying to hang on some shreds of morality so they wont be despised like the atheists of old

LOL. It's hypocrisy/inconsistency to hang on to some absolute moral values when you cannot say who made them absolute. Almost all the "atheists" in the house can agree that rape is absolutely bad, but they can't say who pronounced it absolutely bad.

felixomor:


Oh so, u r the one dodging question now....
U see?

nope, I've just put you in a catch-22

how did the Chinese see charity as right despite none of the major religion having a base with any god?

DoctorAlien:
No "atheist" has been able to give us the reason why rape or murder is bad absolutely. Could it be that they are not really moral subjectivists as they claim?

Rape was so good to your God that he watched as his chosen men happily shared virgins as war booty. He even asked rapist to marry their victims.

The bible is filled with genocide and murder as commanded by your God yet you are still talking about murder as a bad thing?

hopefulLandlord:


nope, I've just put you in a catch-22

how did the Chinese see charity as right despite none of the major religion having a base with any god?

Answer my question
I answered yours

dalaman:


Rape was so good to your God that he watched as his chosen men happily shared virgins as war booty. He even asked rapist to marry their victims.

The bible is filled with genocide and murder as commanded by your God yet you are still talking about murder as a bad thing?

There are a thousand and one threads on this issue. Kindly go to those ones. Don't derail this thread.

Thank you.

felixomor:

Read it again

You are lying. Here is the constitution and it says you are lying cos non of what you are saying appears there.

http://constitutionus.com

felixomor:


Answer my question
I answered yours

nope you've not

morality comes from a god, that's what this thread is about

Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism does not involve any god and they're able to decide on what's right and wrong; how did they do that without any god telling them?

I would love to see you twist out of this

dalaman:


You are lying. Here is the constitution and it says you are lying cos non of what you are saying appears there.

http://constitutionus.com

Go and read their history.
Go.

DoctorAlien:


There are a thousand and one threads on this issue. Kindly go to those ones. Don't derail this thread.

Thank you.

What you are saying has also been addressed by other threads so I will stay and I won't back down. Why is rape and murder bad when your God whom you claim is the source of morality, is all over the place in the bile commanding people to carry out genocide and rape?

felixomor:


Go and read their history.
Go.

You said constitutions are made based on Christian /Judaism . The US Constitution shows that you are telling lies.

hopefulLandlord:


nope you've not

morality comes from a god, that's what this thread is about

Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism does not involve any god and they're able to decide on what's right and wrong; how did they do that without any god telling them?

I would love to see you twist out of this

The things they decided are good: are they really good? If they decide rape is good, is it good? Who declared their decisions which they call "good" absolutely good?

DoctorAilen
I'm still waiting for your definition of "Murder"

dalaman:


What you are saying has also been addressed by other threads so I will stay and I won't back down. Why is rape and murder bad when your God whom you claim is the source of morality, is all over the place in the bile commanding people to carry out genocide and rape?

Is rape absolutely bad? If yes, who declared it absolutely bad?

hopefulLandlord:


nope you've not

morality comes from a god, that's what this thread is about

Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism does not involve any god and they're able to decide on what's right and wrong; how did they do that without any god telling them?

I would love to see you twist out of this

What was my initial comment,
"Morality originates from religion"

Or u didnt see that part?
Besides i thought u said "what nonsense religion" before?
Now u mentioning 3? Why?
U didnt know before?

And even if we come out, China is not a good moral example..it defeats your argument hands down.
Till today, china forces women to have abortions.
They have a high number of atheist murderers....

I dont know why u even mentioned them in a morality argument..

dalaman:


You said constitutions are made based on Christian /Judaism . The US Constitution shown that you are telling lies.

Go and read the history,
U have not read it.

hopefulLandlord:
DoctorAilen

I'm still waiting for your definition of "Murder"

Peurile, I must say. I have no definition of murder. Instead, the dictionary has one.

felixomor:


Go and read the history,
U have not read it.

I don't need to read it. The constitution has already shown that you are telling lies.

DoctorAlien:


The things they decided are good: are they really good? If they decide rape is good, is it good? Who declared their decisions which they call "good" absolutely good?

the things they decided as good is good for them! that's why there's no such thing as "objective morality" it varies from place to place

every society needs to make their own rules in order to maintain order as much as possible

China shows you don't need any god to tell you what's right and wrong

back to "Charity"

how did the Chinese see "Charity" as good when there's no god instructing them to? since all their religion is technically atheistic in nature

DoctorAlien:


Is rape absolutely bad? If yes, who declared it absolutely bad?

Who else apart from humans.

dalaman:


I don't need to read it. The constitution has already shown that you are telling lies.

U just confessed

DoctorAlien:


Peurile, I must say. I have no definition of murder. Instead, the dictionary has one.

no need for jibes

so you agree that "Murder" as defined in the dictionary is absolutely wrong, according to you?

hopefulLandlord:


the things they decided as good is good for them! that's why there's no such thing as "objective morality" it varies from place to place

every society needs to make their own rules in order to maintain order as much as possible

China shows you don't need any god to tell you what's right and wrong

back to "Charity"

how did the Chinese see "Charity" as good when there's no god instructing them to? since all their religion is technically atheistic in nature

If I see rape as good, it is good for me. Assuming 5 more persons, or 100 more persons are of the same view, rape is good for us. Is rape really good?

DoctorAlien:


If I see rape as good, it is good for me. Assuming 5 more persons, or 100 more persons are of the same view, rape is good for us. Is rape really good?

He will never answer this question

dalaman:
Who else apart from humans.

Can the views of a group of persons turn something that could be a relative(desisting from rape) into an absolute?