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Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 12:37pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: Even u sef is recognized....LoL See how ordinary kjv is causing tremors for u If u just see the original manuscripts nko.? Na death be that |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 12:38pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
Pastafarian:Maybe "cornered" has a new meaning. Please tell us. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by Pastafarian: 12:38pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
felixomor:okay |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 12:43pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
felixomor: You are talking about KJV that was not even translated from the original manuscripts. KJV that is riddled with so many errors that a NKJV had to be made to do away with the errors of the KJV. You don't read, all you know how to do is cry. 2 Likes |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 1:09pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: Prove it that kjv has errors. Please how do u even know errors in what u have not read? Wonders will never cease! Really 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 1:14pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
felixomor:Go and read the preface of the NKJV and what is written there. Go and read it . |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by MrMontella(m): 1:41pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman:baba you get time... Na trolls them be clinging to straws 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 1:52pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman:I have finished both. You r the stranger here. 1 Like |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 1:55pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
felixomor: You didn't. Go and read it. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 1:56pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: Next. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 2:12pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: I never said so. I'm tempted to doubt your ability to comprehend. I'm simply asking, who declared rape morally wrong absolutely? Nobody's talking about enforcing here. That a law is perfecty enforced does not mean that it is morally right universally. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 2:17pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
So far so good, no "atheist" has been able to tell us why they cling to moral absolutes, when they can't even tell who declared them absolute, and what authority the person/group of persons have to do so. Also, no atheist has been able to tell us why the laws of logic exist, and how the laws came about, and why they use the laws of logic, how humans could possibly know about the laws and why the laws of logic are universal, binding, immaterial and unchanging. Conclusion: atheism is a very illogical and inconsistent ism?? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by benzics(m): 2:30pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 2:32pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics:Who declared rape absolutely bad? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 2:57pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: Humans did. Humans made that declaration. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by benzics(m): 2:59pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:We, humans! Because it causes HARM! You may say some people don't agree that rape is bad, but I already explained what WRONGS are... Anything that causes harm, and wasn't done in protection! |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by jonbellion(m): 3:01pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:lol Certainly wasn't the Abrahamic God if that's what you're getting at In the Book of Joshua. The Abrahamic God commands the Israelites to go into the land of Canaan, which he has decreed belongs to them, and kill everyone in the thirty-one kingdoms therein, including women, children, and livestock. Ironically this was after the ten commandments was passed down violating the sixth and eight commandment a supposedly "absolute" moral code The Abrahamic Gods absolute morality" is not as absolute as it is sometimes portrayed it simply makes such matters dependent on the whims of God It's arbitrary If the Abrahamic God were bound by the laws he would have quite a lot to answer for Also rahaab the Canaanite harlot was given off to one of Joshua's sons for her assistance in the fall of Jericho despite this being explicitly forbidden in Deuteronomy. At least you can't say "he's God he does whatever he wants" in this instance. That would be intellectually dishonest. Then again that is what is displayed here time and again so I wont be surprised Pure empathy alone would make something like rape a highly untenable proposition If the Abrahamic God declared something like rape or murder wrong then morality is definitely arbitrary from his history If he did not then he is not a requisite for morality. If the Abrahamic God exists those things are not wrong since apparently everything that happens happens according to Gods plan throwing away the problem of evil. Jainism was way ahead of your religion in terms of morality bro. There are a lot of substitutes for divine command theory Basically anyone that lives a godless life (athiests,agnostics like myself, Diests-well technically) obviously do not get thier morals from religion so they don't require god to be moral or any absolute law Afterall they are all still going to hell anyway 1 Like
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Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 3:01pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: Do rapists agree? Certainly not. If I decide today that rape is good, all the rapists in the whole world agree with me. We are humans too. We would declare too that rape is good. You now see how foolish your answer is? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 3:03pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics: Doez abortion cause harm? Is abortion wrong? Besides u r still begging the question, Who gave u d power to define wrong over me? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by peacesamuel94(m): 3:03pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics: How does harming someone matter to an atheist? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 3:04pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
jonbellion, follow the link below for an expose on the issue of rape in the Bible. Don't derail the thread. Thank you. www.nairaland.com/3567175/did-god-ever-condone-rape#52719550 |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by jonbellion(m): 3:05pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:I never said god did na I'm saying even if he did his morality is arbitrary from his history |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 3:06pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics: DoctorAlien: Also, when lions kill antelopes, they cause harm to the antelopes. Why are you not punishing lions for killing antelopes? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by jonbellion(m): 3:08pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
peacesamuel94:huh I know there are serial killers and all but an unbeliever like myself who does not believe in the idea of an afterlife feels that this life is all I get. So if I harm someone or murder them I feel like I'm taking away thier only shot of life. And then I might waste my life in jail It's quite simple actually 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by benzics(m): 3:20pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
felixomor:Lol.. When people fail to be educated, questions like this pop up.. That's how one pastor was like "swallowing sperm is cannibalism"... It's a woman's body, she can do whatever she likes with her body.. A breathing baby and a fetus are not the same, same way a sperm is not a baby! Remember, suicide causes harm, but to the individual who chose it! As far as you are not harming OTHER people against their own volition! When someone begs me to kill him, and I do, that is no crime, cuz he was fully aware and chose it!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by benzics(m): 3:22pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
peacesamuel94:Lol.. It matters a lot! We've all got one shot at life, and harming somebody against his will is wrong!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by dalaman: 3:22pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien: You have no sense my friend. When the whites in the USA congrees sat down and made laws criminalizing raciail discrimination in all parts of the US against the wish of majority of the whites living in the South did the people not accept it? All laws are made by law makers and not everybody. About half of Americans are against gay rights but just 5 supreme court justices have made gays rights law in the US. Law makers make lawan for everybody. They care not if you agree to it or not. When majority feel the laws are not in their interest they select law makers to change it. Gays were not allowed to serve openly in the US military and the law makers voted to enforce it. After a while the same law makers voted to repeal it and allow gays to serve in the military. All these were done by a congress that had less that 1% gays in it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by peacesamuel94(m): 3:24pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics: But I thought life was meaningless to you guys. |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by felixomor: 3:25pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
benzics: If only u could know that u r d one contradicting yourself. If i scratch myself to kill you? U clearly dont know what that means? Ur body ends where the baby's own begins. So keep quiet. Hehehehe, And as for ur last paragraph, i will call people to come and see another potential killer on the loose.... It is sadistic But i am not surprised... How could I? |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by benzics(m): 3:29pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:Same reason you are not punishing soldiers for killing terrorists to protect you!! What a group of individuals think doesn't change the truth, it's our natural instincts to detect that yes, causing harm to others is wrong, that's why a lioness won't let you anywhere near her Cubs... |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by jonbellion(m): 3:29pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:but even if there was actually a divine command theory fo the rapists still agree rape is wrong No rape is wrong because it denies the most basic rights of the individual. It takes the freedom of action and choice away from the vi as simple as that. The rapists might not feel that way but it's the fact but it disrupts privacy just as murder violates an individuals basic right to be alive I feel this is as absolute one can get But if we want to go with the christian belief Pre marital sex is wrong even within two consenting adults So what exactly males it wrong without using biblical backup 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Exposing The Inconsistencies In Atheism by DoctorAlien(m): 3:31pm On Jan 11, 2017 |
dalaman: Please, stop quoting me. You're very unintelligent. You never address the content of what you quoted. Who's talking about congress? |
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