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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by SalomonKane: 11:31am On Jan 14, 2017
unmask:
violence is the only language that some people understand true... But as a christian love is the only one you should understand
I'm not a christian. grin
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by unmask: 11:32am On Jan 14, 2017
Sanchez01:

Then your understanding, sir, is limited.
enlighten me then
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by mu2sa2: 11:33am On Jan 14, 2017
He made the statement in 2015 - good they are admitting it. But even if he said such thing 20 or 50 years ago it is still incitement to violence. Let's not forget that it is the same Oyedepo who slapped a poor girl in church simply because the illiterate girl said she's a "winch" for Jesus (A person with good command of English would probably say "I 'm passionate for jesus."). And Oyedepo arrogantly refused to admit he was wrong! The guy had shown that he is a man of violence, so the statement he made, whether or not in 2015, only goes to further prove he is violence prone. The irony of it is that he has thousands of gullible and malleable followers who see him as next to their god.

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by unmask: 11:34am On Jan 14, 2017
xpool:

You are wrong!
Stop making Christians weak and defenseless and vulnerable.
"SAUL KILLED HIS THOUSANDS AND DAVID KILLED HIS TENS OF THOUSANDS" 1 Samuel 18:7, 1 Samuel 29:5.
Christians have fought uncountable wars from time immemorial, its everywhere in the bible.
I don't know where you people always read; is it a different book. If you want to die like a chicken without defending your children and family then what makes you the head of the family.
yes I did read where saul was told to kill women and children.......it depends on your understanding.... Read up on matthew 5

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by unmask: 11:35am On Jan 14, 2017
SalomonKane:
I'm not a christian. grin
cool then you are allowed to take up arms

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by SalomonKane: 11:36am On Jan 14, 2017
unmask:
cool then you are allowed to take up arms
I don't take up arms to harm innocent people.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by deflover(m): 11:37am On Jan 14, 2017
unmask:
defend themselves with what? Arms or prayers?

If you say arms "thou shall not kill"

Don't misquote the bible

The original translation says THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER.....

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WORD KILL AND MURDER

ONE IS LAWFUL THE OTHER IS NOT
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by jagorinho: 11:38am On Jan 14, 2017
mrdashing10:
Christianity condemns killing. I wouldn't judge, i wouldn't kill for any reason.
There is no religion that doesnt have an iota of violence in it. Pls go and read about the crusades of europe ( am not talking about 7 days crusade usually conducted inside stadium) am talking of the fight in which christians reclaimed back some cities occupied by moslem jihadist in many series of battles in europe or you can get this film (season of the witches)....every problem is not solved by diplomacy
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by KahlDrogo(m): 11:45am On Jan 14, 2017
xpool:

Did God condemn Davids killings in war?
'I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart' God said.
You have to defend yourself against enemies, you sit at home and rejoice when soldiers kill criminals; Are you a double-edged sword?
Ooooooooogaaaaaa! Did God ask us to kill like David? Is that such a difficult question to answer? God said David was a man after his heart, did he ask us to do everything David did? What about his ways with women, are we to emulate that as well?

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by TeamSimple(m): 11:46am On Jan 14, 2017
Mumu Bishop

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by TeamSimple(m): 11:48am On Jan 14, 2017
mrdashing10:
Christianity condemns killing. I wouldn't judge, i wouldn't kill for any reason.
Indeed
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by patrickkkk: 11:53am On Jan 14, 2017
KahlDrogo:
Did God ask us anywhere to kill like David and Saul?

Matter of fact, He explicitly stated "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" and asked us to "LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES".

If you tell me you cherry pick what teachings of the book to adopt, that i would understand.

Pls sir can u enlighten me more on killings in Christiandom? Are Christian soldiers not suppose to kill? OR should Christian nations open their borders to killers to enter their countries and kill their citizens like fowls and chicken without them defending themselves? coolor is it because your loved ones are not involved that you talking this way. Why do u fence your house and put gigantic gates in your compounds? Is is not because of thieves?

Are thieves not enemies you should love by allowing them in to rape your daughters and cart away your valuables. Why defending yourselves with fence and gates? Did Jesus tell you to do so? Nobody is saying CHRISTIANS should attack anybody BUT most DEFEND themselves in cases of being attacked by those who hate peace where there is no presence of government Protection for them.

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Dangerousboy(m): 12:08pm On Jan 14, 2017
i can see that some christians are senseless. dem dey kill una dey go una dey say bible no talk so.because no be una relatives, una dey do zombies.dey dere when he reach una side una eyes go shine.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jan 14, 2017
So a tooth for a tooth?
xpool:

To fit your convenience you separate the Bible; but when it comes to tithe the Bible becomes one indivisible word.
Stop misleading Christians, Christ said he did not come to change the law!
'Jesus Thou son of David ...'
'Saul killed in thousands and David killed in tens of thousands' 1 Samuel 18:7
And you think you know the WORD better than those who fought all the CRUSADES?
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Nobody: 12:14pm On Jan 14, 2017
I know about the crusades. That was then man. How do you think Nigeria would have been if Christians fought back?
jagorinho:

There is no religion that doesnt have an iota of violence in it. Pls go and read about the crusades of europe ( am not talking about 7 days crusade usually conducted inside stadium) am talking of the fight in which christians reclaimed back some cities occupied by moslem jihadist in many series of battles in europe or you can get this film (season of the witches)....every problem is not solved by diplomacy
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by KahlDrogo(m): 12:28pm On Jan 14, 2017
patrickkkk:


Pls sir can u enlighten me more on killings in Christiandom? Are Christian soldiers not suppose to kill? OR should Christian nations open their borders to killers to enter their countries and kill their citizens like fowls and chicken without them defending themselves? coolor is it because your loved ones are not involved that you talking this way. Why do u fence your house and put gigantic gates in your compounds? Is is not because of thieves?

Are thieves not enemies you should love by allowing them in to rape your daughters and cart away your valuables. Why defending yourselves with fence and gates? Did Jesus tell you to do so? Nobody is saying CHRISTIANS should attack anybody BUT most DEFEND themselves in cases of being attacked by those who hate peace where there is no presence of government Protection for them.
All what you have said is utter rubbish. Oyedepo called for the killing of people who "look like" boko haram members, and obviously from this statement, he sounds sort of remorseful. It is dead wrong! Is that so difficult to accept or are you more christian than myself?

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by patrickkkk: 12:31pm On Jan 14, 2017
KahlDrogo:
All what you have said is utter rubbish. Oyedepo called for the killing of people who "look like" boko haram members, and obviously from this statement, he sounds sort of remorseful. It is dead wrong! Is that so difficult to accept or are you more christian than myself?

And who told you my write up was about Oyedepo? Or did I Call for the attack of any group? Or is Ok for innocent people not to defend themselves when attacked where there is no presence of government's protection?


And you have not even answered the Questions I asked above Sir if at all u a Christian that knows his Bible very well.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Adeyeye09(m): 12:51pm On Jan 14, 2017
The way some of u post nonsense annoys me. If u had relatives who were being blown up daily, am sure u will be d first to pick up arms. Some of u saying d year he said it dosent matter ryt? Well u can all say dat becos d killings has drastically reduced. I dnt need to remind u of our 2015 ws, whereby every 18hrs a blast was occurring somewhere. I only wished dat boko haram made their way to the south nd west so u all can knw what's up. Mayb if d blast ws rocking Lagos, u will still be saying wat u re saying.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by obailala(m): 1:05pm On Jan 14, 2017
unmask:
if you lose your life on earth for the sake of christ, you will gain it in heaven

Question is as a Christian which is more important to you.....living on earth or living in heaven?
If you had the opportunity to save your life and you didnt, then that amounts to foolishness, cos that is suicide. And foolish persons have no place in God's kingdom.

Even Apostle Paul in the bible at some point had to go through a city with about 300 armed soldiers as guards because certain persons were plotting to kill him. Obviously those soldiers wouldn't have spared the lives of the assailants if they had attempted to attack Paul.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by shugasofttouch: 1:06pm On Jan 14, 2017
Chosen1984:
WHETHER OR NOT BISHOP DAVID OYEDAPO SAID SO....

I DECREE IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THE ANGEL THAT SLEW ALL THE FIRST BORN IN EGYPT IN ONE NIGHT, GOES THROUGH NORTHERN NIGERIAN AND BEYOND!! AND SLAY EVERYPERSON THAT HAS A HAND IN THE KILLINGS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OF SOUTHERN KADUNA!!
I DECREE JUDGEMENT THROUGH THE LAND OF NIGERIA AND BEYOND ON ALL THAT HAVE A HAND DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY IN THE KILLINGS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE !
WHOEVER STUBBORNLY GOES AGAINST GOD'S PEOPLE, DADDY CLOSE THEIR GENERATION IN A DAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS
AMEN
. Amen
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by psalmsjob: 1:06pm On Jan 14, 2017
Whether he said it in 2015 or now doesn't matter but what matters is that he did say it and that is completely condemnable and unbecoming of a Church leader.

This present crisis in southern Kaduna didn't start now it started just around the time he agrees to have made that charge to his members and gullible "Christians" so it is correct to say he incited this killings because according to him his churches were being attacked.

What Oye-de-poo of "fakers" chapel said is wickedness just like She-Cow of Boko Haram and now he adds cowardice to it as well. He can't stand by his words.

The God that I serve is might to fight for me! I don't need bodyguards because I've put on the whole armour of God.

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by mccoy47(m): 1:09pm On Jan 14, 2017
Opelwonder:
that moment you think you are making sense but u ain't....

stupidity at its peak

Listen to me you dàft punk! Don't ever try dragging me to ur mediocre argument!
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by obailala(m): 1:12pm On Jan 14, 2017
psalmsjob:
Whether he said it in 2015 or now doesn't matter but what matters is that he did say it and that is completely condemnable and unbecoming of a Church leader.

This present crisis in southern Kaduna didn't start now it started just around the time he agrees to have made that charge to his members and gullible "Christians" so it safe to say he incited this killings because according to him his churches were being attacked.

What Oye-de-poo of "fakers" chapel said is wickedness in the order of She-Cow of Boko Haram and now he adds cowardice to it as well. He can't stand by his words.

The God that I serve is might to fight for me! I don't need bodyguards because I've put on the whole armour of God.
It is foolishness to sit down and allow yourself to be killed because you are waiting for God's angels to rescue you, God will do no such thing but allow you die a foolish man.

At some point, even Apostle Paul had to travel through a city with over 300 heavily armed soldiers because some rascals plotted to kill him. I'm sure you aren't more godly than Paul.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by psalmsjob: 1:22pm On Jan 14, 2017
obailala:
It is foolishness to sit down and allow yourself to be killed because you are waiting for God's angels to rescue you, God will do no such thing but allow you die a foolish man.

At some point, even Apostle Paul had to travel through a city with over 300 heavily armed soldiers because some rascals plotted to kill him. I'm sure you aren't more godly than Paul.

I want to be like Jesus not Paul, not Oye-de-poo but just like Jesus!

In that story about Paul, he didn't request for the soldiers it was the governor of the city that volunteered that and no where did Paul tell Christians to kill people that are persecuting them. So don't compare that great evangelist that had his own work apart from evangelizing with this parasitic businessman Oye-de-poo feeding fat on you. Why couldn't he employ bodyguards for each member of his church then since he thinks God cannot protect.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by xpool(m): 1:38pm On Jan 14, 2017
KahlDrogo:
Ooooooooogaaaaaa! Did God ask us to kill like David? Is that such a difficult question to answer? God said David was a man after his heart, did he ask us to do everything David did? What about his ways with women, are we to emulate that as well?
It was Davids victory in wars especially the killing of Goliath that revealed and so established that our God, the same one God was with him.
Every country has soldiers and you think you understand the WORD more than them.
Don't spread your weakness and to my Christian brothers and sisters; Self defense is not only allowed in Christianity, but a universal concept.
What do you think Israeli soldiers are kept and maintained by the govt. like every sovereign nation; to drink tea?
If you are in your house as the head of the family and a criminal breaks into your house, just one criminal, unarmed and start dishing out command to you to face down, he rapes your daughter and start strangling your wife, and their is a very sharp cutlass hidden at an arms length near you; what do you do?
Would you allow your wife to die slowly in his hand?

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Factualase: 1:39pm On Jan 14, 2017
Seun, his moderators and tonyb knew the news is a staled one, but they decided to bring it up again. I wouldn't know why seun is acting like this may be because seun hates men of God. I spit phlegm on seun, moderators and tonyb
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by xpool(m): 1:43pm On Jan 14, 2017
mrdashing10:
So a tooth for a tooth?
I don't blame you, you sit at the comfort of your home, day in day out, while soldiers come sambisa forest and kill insurgents.
Soldiers who are Christians fight, bleed and sometimes die defending you and I, and you feel bold to post that defending your right, territory and family is unGodly.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by xpool(m): 1:49pm On Jan 14, 2017
obailala:
It is foolishness to sit down and allow yourself to be killed because you are waiting for God's angels to rescue you, God will do no such thing but allow you die a foolish man.

At some point, even Apostle Paul had to travel through a city with over 300 heavily armed soldiers because some rascals plotted to kill him. I'm sure you aren't more godly than Paul.
Please help me tell these fools, I done tire for them.
Our Christian fathers fought Crusades, David killed Goliath and Christ asked Peter to sheath his sword when he cut off the ear of one of the soldiers that came to arrest Christ; Christ did not ask Peter to throw away his sword.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jan 14, 2017
I would do same if i were a soldier. Moreover, those Christian soldiers defend both muslims and christians!! They defend the country. Love your neighbour as yourself bro. The way you find muslims who murder in cold blood, same you see within Christianity. They even love themselves far better than we do.
xpool:

I don't blame you, you sit at the comfort of your home, day in day out, while soldiers come sambisa forest and kill insurgents.
Soldiers who are Christians fight, bleed and sometimes die defending you and I, and you feel bold to post that defending your right, territory and family is unGodly.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by gaffig: 1:59pm On Jan 14, 2017
5starmilitant:
Teacher: Who is Tonye?

Student: Tonye is a goat.
Only a fool will say barcanista is a goat or whatsoever, he didn't create the article at 1st instance, he only made a comment on what he read, we all need to be very careful before reading and trusting anything from this Media of ours, most if them are Amateur.
Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by xpool(m): 2:02pm On Jan 14, 2017
mrdashing10:
I would do same if i were a soldier. Moreover, those Christian soldiers defend both muslims and christians!! They defend the country. Love your neighbour as yourself bro. The way you find muslims who murder in cold blood, same you see within Christianity. They even love themselves far better than we do.
No you would not do same if you were a soldier!
I know you would wait in sambisa for God to come down and fight for you when he has equipped you.

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Re: Southern Kaduna Crisis: I Didn't Incite Christians To Take Up Arms - Oyedepo by Agathabishen(f): 2:05pm On Jan 14, 2017
mrdashing10:
Christianity condemns killing. I wouldn't judge, i wouldn't kill for any reason.

pray your community does not experience what the people of southern Kaduna. the very minute when your community will be surrounded by gun men. you either kill to increase your chances if staying alive or wait to be slaughtered like a goat. and if you have children they will cry and say "dad/mum don't let them kill me" and if you did not kill the moment they entered your house they will slaughter your kids first rape your his wife in from of you, kill her before killing you. they will be chanting let your God come and rescue you. and move to the next. pray you never see such

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