Raymysterio:


Have you tried to find out why Tithe was paid at all? God separated the levites from their brothers (The Children of Israel) to be His Priest. This separation made them forfeit there lands and goods in Israel to a total service to God. This land Originally belong to all the Children of Israel and the levites are descendant of Levi, a direct son of Jacob who God separated with his descendants to be priest unto him. Because of this calling to serve God and forfeiture of landed properties, God now instructed their brothers and their descendants to give one 10th of all they acquired from the land, to sustain there brothers who where part owners of these lands and therefore are entitled to what is gotten from it. But they where separated by God. Compare that to today Pastors who own landed properties, Universities and all... do they have the moral standing to accept tithe going by the reason why God instituted tithe? Think, read and be wise...

Tithes and offerings were taken to the house of God for the work of ministry . Which include the service and the welfare of the minsters of the sanctuary. Period. Same parallel in every generation. From Melchizedek to our time

Give your tithe to the poor... and Men of God willingly NOT because they coerce you to do so...God bless

What you give to the poor is alms. You can make it a 10% (tithe ) if your care but it must be a different tithe . Not the one you give to God.

dsaynt:
Abeg all these pastors are NOT Levites and therefore should NOT receive tithes. However as Paul the apostle said we should give FREEWILL offerings to propagate the Kingdom of God. Freewill offering can be 2%, 10%, 50% etc...as you choose of your freewill.
Also all these pastors...one question for you...why don't you guys ever open branches in the remote areas that need the gospel why in London,New York, etc and then next private jet to take you there.

#TestEverything

Make una shine your eyes o!

Ah, One pastor DeKen Says that Melchizedeck who collect 'spoils of war which was stollen treasure' means that he collected tithe, But he failed woefully to tell us 'that tithe for Gods people was to be 'war spoils' of 'increase of ones income or farm produce''

benjsniper33:



Bros tithe is tithe. So far its one- tenth of your gain or your yield. All tithes are sacred and should be given to God either through feeding the needy, widows, sick or helping in building the house of God.
Also tithe can be weekly, monthly, yearly, bi-anually or perennially depending on the time when your harvest or yield comes.
We have only one God , he passes his messages in different ways but he means just one simple thing
TITHE IS TITHE BROS!

It's an issue of percentage. Look at it this way .Just assume God had said take 10% to the priest and share a 5% with the widow ,if you look at it in that light it will be clearer . So if God said give 10% to him and he said share another 10% with widows . That doesn't make it the same thing. . The Jews gave 3 tithes .

BERNIMOORE:
Ah, One pastor DeKen Says that Melchizedeck who collect 'spoils of war which was stollen treasure' means that he collected tithe, But he failed woefully to tell us 'that tithe for Gods people was to be 'war spoils' of 'increase of ones income or farm produce''

Lol. What Abraham gave was NOT tithe o! Because it was a one off and it wasn't of his income/produce. It was from spoils of war...he gave 10% quite all right but it wasn't tithe. Even Jacob promised to give God 10% but then he attached a condition to it...that wasn't tithe too. They loved 10%back then but like I said before its only what was described in Deutronomy that are tithes.
Deutronomy actually gives a complete breakdown on tithes and tithing but our modern day pastors seem to forget that scripture and quote Malachi .
Anyways I'd keep repeating it ....our pastors are NOT Levites and hence are not qualified to collect tithes. However they can collect Freewill offerings as Paul described.
#TestEverything

Junia:
Im talking about a single leader being a priest ..

What's with a single leader being a priest... about?
Single leader being a priest ... for what?

Junia:
I know we are the royal priesthood

³Moses went up to God,
and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob and tell the sons of Israel:
⁴‘You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings, and brought you to Myself.
⁵‘Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant,
then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine;
⁶and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’
These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel.”
- Exodus 19:3-6

Yep going back to the original plan of making all priests
In the beginning, it was God's plan, starting with the tribes of Israel (i.e. the Israelites) that, all will be His priests
but after the Israelites flouted the 2nd commandment, God changed the focus from all, to only the tribe of Levi being priests

Joagbaje:
Tithe is for the work of God

There is a sucker born every minute to prey on or pray for,
and that is what people who peddle these kind of misleading information rely on

Joagbaje:
There are people, staff and officials who work full time in churches and are paid.
Its not just about pastors. Of course most pastors don't depend on church since they have thier own jobserved outside church.
However some pastors still work full time in ministry and such require support.
TITHES also goes for other bills in church . So e chair rentals etc

¹Now I want you to know, dear brothers and sisters,a what God in his kindness has done through the churches in Macedonia.
²They are being tested by many troubles, and they are very poor. But they are also filled with abundant joy, which has overflowed in rich generosity.
³For I can testify that they gave not only what they could afford, but far more. And they did it of their own free will.
⁴They begged us again and again for the privilege of sharing in the gift for the believersb in Jerusalem.
⁵They even did more than we had hoped, for their first action was to give themselves to the Lord and to us, just as God wanted them to do.
⁶So we have urged Titus, who encouraged your giving in the first place, to return to you and encourage you to finish this ministry of giving.
⁷Since you excel in so many ways—in your faith, your gifted speakers, your knowledge, your enthusiasm, and your love from us
—I want you to excel also in this gracious act of giving.
⁸I am not commanding you to do this. But I am testing how genuine your love is by comparing it with the eagerness of the other churches.
⁹You know the generous grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty he could make you rich.
¹⁰Here is my advice: It would be good for you to finish what you started a year ago. Last year you were the first who wanted to give, and you were the first to begin doing it.
¹¹Now you should finish what you started. Let the eagerness you showed in the beginning be matched now by your giving. Give in proportion to what you have.
¹²Whatever you give is acceptable if you give it eagerly. And give according to what you have, not what you don’t have.
¹³Of course, I don’t mean your giving should make life easy for others and hard for yourselves. I only mean that there should be some equality.
¹⁴Right now you have plenty and can help those who are in need. Later, they will have plenty and can share with you when you need it. In this way, things will be equal.
¹⁵As the Scriptures say,
“Those who gathered a lot had nothing left over,
and those who gathered only a little had enough.”
- 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 NLT

Each of you should give whatever you have decided.
You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give, since God loves a cheerful giver.
- 2 Corinthians 9:7

Tithing is legalistic and that's why Jesus never encouraged it

Why not acquaint members with all these financial responsibilities
and teach them about the principle of Generous & Cheerful Giving as found in 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 & 2 Corinthians 9:7
I doubt whether at all 2 Corinthians 8:13 is ever taken notice off

MuttleyLaff:
What's with a single leader being a priest... about?
Single leader being a priest ... for what?

³Moses went up to God,
and the LORD called to him from the mountain, saying, “Thus you shall say to the house of Jacob and tell the sons of Israel:
⁴‘You yourselves have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I bore you on eagles’ wings, and brought you to Myself.
⁵‘Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant,
then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine;
⁶and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’
These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel.”
- Exodus 19:3-6

Yep going back to the original plan of making all priests
In the beginning, it was God's plan, starting with the tribes of Israel (i.e. the Israelites) that, all will be His priests
but after the Israelites flouted the 2nd commandment, God changed the focus from all, to only the tribe of Levi being priests

Now we christians are the royal priesthood
I am a priest
Christ is the high priest

petra1:


It's an issue of percentage. Look at it this way .Just assume God had said take 10% to the priest and share a 5% with the widow ,if you look at it in that light it will be clearer . So if God said give 10% to him and he said share another 10% with widows . That doesn't make it the same thing. . The Jews gave 3 tithes .

Three forms of tithe SOLELY BASED ON INCREASE ON THEIR OWN POSSESION. so which Tithe predates Law? Even pagan Tithed before christ era, Tax were paid in Tenth % to the government then, jesus paid ten% of Tax to Ceacar, This is what Our Oversabi pastors 'phrased as Tithe predates Law' To Milk people Dry

MuttleyLaff:
There is a sucker born every minute to prey on or pray for,
and that is what people who peddle these kind of misleading information rely on

¹Now I want you to know, dear brothers and sisters,a what God in his kindness has done through the churches in Macedonia.
²They are being tested by many troubles, and they are very poor. But they are also filled with abundant joy, which has overflowed in rich generosity.
³For I can testify that they gave not only what they could afford, but far more. And they did it of their own free will.
⁴They begged us again and again for the privilege of sharing in the gift for the believersb in Jerusalem.
⁵They even did more than we had hoped, for their first action was to give themselves to the Lord and to us, just as God wanted them to do.
⁶So we have urged Titus, who encouraged your giving in the first place, to return to you and encourage you to finish this ministry of giving.
⁷Since you excel in so many ways—in your faith, your gifted speakers, your knowledge, your enthusiasm, and your love from us
—I want you to excel also in this gracious act of giving.
⁸I am not commanding you to do this. But I am testing how genuine your love is by comparing it with the eagerness of the other churches.
⁹You know the generous grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty he could make you rich.
¹⁰Here is my advice: It would be good for you to finish what you started a year ago. Last year you were the first who wanted to give, and you were the first to begin doing it.
¹¹Now you should finish what you started. Let the eagerness you showed in the beginning be matched now by your giving. Give in proportion to what you have.
¹²Whatever you give is acceptable if you give it eagerly. And give according to what you have, not what you don’t have.
¹³Of course, I don’t mean your giving should make life easy for others and hard for yourselves. I only mean that there should be some equality.
¹⁴Right now you have plenty and can help those who are in need. Later, they will have plenty and can share with you when you need it. In this way, things will be equal.
¹⁵As the Scriptures say,
“Those who gathered a lot had nothing left over,
and those who gathered only a little had enough.”
- 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 NLT

Each of you should give whatever you have decided.
You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give, since God loves a cheerful giver.
- 2 Corinthians 9:7

Tithing is legalistic and that's why Jesus never encouraged

Why not acquaint members with all these financial responsibilities
and teach them about the principle of Generous & Cheerful Giving as found in 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 & 2 Corinthians 9:7
I doubt whether at all 2 Corinthians 8:13 is ever taken notice off

Tell them

BERNIMOORE:
Three forms of tithe SOLELY BASED ON INCREASE ON THEIR OWN POSSESION. so which Tithe predates Law? Even pagan Tithed before christ era, Tax were paid in Tenth % to the government then, jesus paid ten% of Tax to Ceacar, This is what Our Oversabi pastors 'phrased as Tithe predates Law' To Milk people Dry

Tithing is an institution before the law . That's all that count.

BERNIMOORE:
This is what Our Oversabi pastors 'phrased as Tithe predates Law' To Milk people Dry

It's funny that it's only non tithers that have such complain of others being milked dry. Tithers don't complain . They have fulfillment and testimonies. Secondly ,the pastors are tithers also.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE AFTER JESUS DIED AND WAS RESURRECTED THE CUSTOM OF PROVIDING A SPECIFIC % OF ONES INCOME OR PROCEEDS WAS ABOLISHED,THAT WAS WHY NOTHING OF SUCH WAS EVER DONE BY JESUS NON ANY OF HIS EARLY APOSTLES OR DISCIPLES,THE ISSUE OF DONATION TO ENHANCE KINGDOM EVANGELISM IN THE APOSTLES ERA WAS GREATLY EMPHASIZED TO BE WILLING CONTRIBUTIONS OR DONATIONS AS YOUR HEART MAY IMPEL YOU TO NOT UNDER COMPULSION 2CORINTH 9:7 (LET EACH ONE DO JUST ASHE HAS RESOLVED IN HIS HEART,NOT GRUDGINGLY OR UNDER COMPULSION,FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER).SO YOU COULD CHOOSE TO GIVE YOUR ENTIRE SALARY OR A BIT OF IT AS YOUR SITUATION AND HEART MAY MOVE YOU TO.THIS ALSO IS A TEST OF OUR LOVE AND FAITH IN GOD AS HE DOES NOT WANT US TO BE FORCED TO COME WORSHIP HIM CUS HE CAN CHOOSE TO RAISE A STONE TO DO THAT IF HE WANTS TO.



So guys lets stop this matter of percentaging God's gift cus that is were the falsehood and deceit lies for the worship of God is freedom not bondage.God loves a cheerful giver,how will you be cheerful when you are being compelled to do something abeg make we use our sense

Junia:
The church doesnt have priests now (Ephesians 4:11)

Junia:
Now we christians are the royal priesthood
I am a priest
Christ is the high priest

But when Jesus said "this temple," he meant his own body
- John 2:21

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
- 1 Corinthians 3:16

True, now every believer is a priest, whose duty is to look after the temple of God, within where God dwells

MuttleyLaff:

Tithing is legalistic and that's why Jesus never encouraged

On the contrary he did

Luke 11:42 (NLT)
42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

Why not acquaint members with all these financial responsibilities
and teach them about the principle of Generous & Cheerful Giving as found in 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 & 2 Corinthians 9:7
I doubt whether at all 2 Corinthians 8:13 is ever taken notice off

And what makes you thinks churches don't teach it. Unlike you The churches teach the whole counsel of God

MuttleyLaff:


But when Jesus said "this temple," he meant his own body
- John 2:21

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
- 1 Corinthians 3:16

True, now every believer is a priest, whose duty is to look after the temple of God, within where God dwells

Yh

petra1:


On the contrary he did

Luke 11:42 (NLT)
42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.



And what makes you thinks churches don't teach it. Unlike you The churches teach the whole counsel of God

Jesus spoke about tithing but considered it as a lighter part of the law
Now Christians are not under the law at all
Any one who obeys the law of tithing is a debtor to the whole law
And the Bible says cursed is anyone who follows the law because he or she cannot obey all the laws
Therefore if you choose to obey the law of tithing .. you are actually alienting yourself from Christ and have fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4)

captainrock:
you did not make dis kind of research when u were writing ur project o, just because u cnt do away with 10% n u are just selfish. so pastors shud eat wind because they r nt humans.

What do they do with the offerings, prophet seed, first fruit and the rest??

Junia:


Jesus spoke about tithing but considered it as a lighter part of the law
Now Christians are not under the law at all

We are talking about Christ whom You guys said Never sanctioned tithing . Now in the face of evidence that he actually encouraged tithing . You now want to Lay the blame on the law

petra1:


We are talking about Christ whom You guys said Never sanctioned tithing . Now in the face of evidence that he actually encouraged tithing . Lay the blame on the law

He considered tithing because He was still fulfiling the law
He has now fulfiled all the laws for Christians
Should we go back again to the law ??
Then His death will be meaningless to us

Junia:

to obey the law of tithing .. you are actually alienting yourself from Christ and have fallen from grace (Galatians 5:4)

We don't tithe because the law of Moses say so . We tithe because . It is a kingdom principle . It pre existed the law.

petra1:


We don't tithe because the law of Moses say so . We tithe because . It is a kingdom principle . It pre existed the law.

Jesus called it a law
Jesus even existed before the world
Infact He is God
So if God called it a law
Who are you to call it a Kingdom principle ??

Junia:


He considered tithing because He was still fulfiling the law

But he condemned the sabbath , the law of divorce and other aspect of the law . Why didn't he condemn tithe but rather commended it . Because tithing was instituted by God before the law came .

petra1:


But he condemned the sabbath , the law of divorce and other aspect of the law . Why didn't he condemn tithe but rather commended it . Because tithing was instituted by God before the law came .

Tithing was a law
He refered to it as a law

petra1:
On the contrary he did

Luke 11:42 (NLT)
42 “What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens,
but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things

You and your Joagbaje alter ego are real hard-case incorrigibles
Do you have any other bible verse corroborating this delusion of yours that Jesus encouraged tithing?
I dont think you'll have. SMH

petra1:
And what makes you thinks churches don't teach it

If churches are teaching it,
then they arent teaching it in good faith or good enough
because if they were, they wouldnt for dear life, be clinging on to tithing and refusing to let go of it

petra1:
Unlike you the churches teach the whole counsel of God

Pfttt, yimu

Junia:


Tithing was a law
He refered to it as a law

It started with Abraham before the law came . Study the Bible . What about offering . Do you give offering ?

petra1:


It started with Abraham before the law came . Study the Bible . What about offering . Do you give offering ?

Please do you know more than Jesus
He called tithing a law
He is God
Who are you not to call it a law ??

petra1:


It started with Abraham before the law came . Study the Bible . What about offering . Do you give offering ?

Again
Paul taught about offering
Why didn't He teach about tithing ??

MuttleyLaff:
You and your Joagbaje alter ego are real hard-case incorrigibles

No need for insult . Just deal with your bible references .

Do you have any other bible verse corroborating this delusion of yours that Jesus encouraged tithing?
I ,

If you can call a scripture open before the world as evidence a delusion why do i need to give another . Deal with the one before you first

Junia:


Jesus called it a law
Jesus even existed before the world
Infact He is God
So if God called it a law
Who are you to call it a Kingdom principle ??

Abeg, help me ask am

Junia:


Please do you know more than Jesus
He called tithing a law
He is God
Who are you not to call it a law ??

Do you believe in giving God an offering

Waiting. . .

. . . Anybody home. . .?