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Re: Is Jesus god? by kilo4sure: 8:19pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:One of the major differences is that the Quran never states that man was made in the image and likeness of God. So Muslims would never understand why Christians can see God in Jesus. In the Quran, the primary purpose for man was to bow and worship Allah, but the Bible states that God was looking for one to subdue the earth, to dress the garden and keep it for him. These are the minor but yet subtle differences l can remember. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 8:33pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
yemimajid:test & justice... As an Atheist do u have ethics and moralities? * can you marry ur our mother? * is it wrong to commit murder? 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
FriendChoice: Brother, He just took upon Himself a form of a servant He is God not a servant 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 10:45pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
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Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 11:23pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
Junia: Hmm I don't know. You are wiser than the Bible. This is not Jesus speaking but God Almighty. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. [Act 4:13] 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 11:30pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
aminusanti:You really want to use a book that teaches you how to treat your slaves to teach me ethics and morality? |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 12:41am On Feb 11, 2017 |
FriendChoice: This is not God speaking .. it is Peter Jesus took a form of a servant therefore to men, He is a servant of God. Just as muslims say He is a messanger But to us Christians who know Him, we know He is God The Son 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 12:56am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Junia:Thank you for educating me on who is speaking. But only those with holy spirit will understand you. Yes He is a messenger of God. Yes He is son of God (meaning a righteous person). Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn. " For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. [Roman 8:14] Now your next argument is Jesus is not son of God but begotten son of God ? . But sha lemme wait to hear you speak first. 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 1:04am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Some idiot said the holy trinity is like water in its three states i.e. solid, liquid and gas. Lol. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Godemcee(m): 1:33am On Feb 11, 2017 |
aminusanti:u mean how u Muslim blow people up and screaming allah akubar.though am an agnotheist but if I were to choose a religion I'll rather choose Buddha than worship that blood sucker called Allah,I'll bombard Here with Quran verses of Muhammad supporting killing nd rape now |
Re: Is Jesus god? by hopefulLandlord: 1:38am On Feb 11, 2017 |
aminusanti: hmmm creation story only |
Re: Is Jesus god? by johnw74: 5:47am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 6:03am On Feb 11, 2017 |
yemimajid:And the same book that tells you u can't marry your own mother and not to commit murder.. do u consider murder and rape to be ok? If not then why not? 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 7:42am On Feb 11, 2017 |
FriendChoice: Israel is God's firstborn, thus God's son. But you need to understand this well. Israel is an adopted son just as every Christian Ephesians 1:5(ESV) He predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of His will. Jesus was His Son. The one The Father Himself Begat Israel and every Christian are just adopted sons |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 9:17am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Junia: Yeah I predicted well. I know you will say Jesus is not a normal son but Begotten Son Of God. And this is the verse you should have quote Gospel of John, Chap 3 verse 16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." What is the meaning of begotten? When asked the meaning of the word ‘begotten’ the Christian will rarely be able to explain. Begetting is an animal act belonging to the animal function of sex. ‘Begotten’ means "sired". http://www.biblestudytools.com dictionary/begotten/ How dare the Church attribute such lowly function to God? [b]The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication. The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration. Yet you Christians are blind and unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles. 3 Likes |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 9:31am On Feb 11, 2017 |
FriendChoice: The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. It's this last phrase ("only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV) that causes problems. Religious teachers have latched onto this phrase to try to prove their false teaching that Jesus Christ isn't God. They see the word "begotten" and say that Jesus is a created being because only someone who had a beginning in time can be "begotten." What this fails to note is that "begotten" is an English translation of a Greek word. As such, we have to look at the original meaning of the Greek word, not transfer English meanings into the text. Monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham's "only begotten son" (KJV). Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of thevcovenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for thebuse of monogenes in that context. The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14 , 18; 3:18 ; 1 John 4:9 ). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God ( John 20:31 ), and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters by adoption ( Ephesians 1:5 ). Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 9:41am On Feb 11, 2017 |
aminusanti:So basically you cannot be a christian unless you have learned how to cherry pick the parts in your bible that byou like and completely ignore the parts you don't? |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 10:41am On Feb 11, 2017 |
yemimajid:why r u ignoring my questions pls? Fyi am not a christian 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 4:17pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
aminusanti:I thought they were rhetorical questions...I means it's like asking if you would stone your son to death if he ever disrespected you, like the bible instructed... |
Re: Is Jesus god? by ichuka(m): 10:33pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Jesus Christ is God!! |
Re: Is Jesus god? by johnw74: 11:11pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
johnw74: ^^^ Jesus and His Father are not one person, but one Spirit, one God. God is a Spirit not only is the Word-Jesus Christ God, also, the Holy Spirit is God God is a Spirit, the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 1Co_3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Hond: 12:09am On Feb 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:I just read an amazing article about how a world famous geneticist went from staunch atheist to Christian convert. I born into a very large Atheist family and see more clearly how atheists self-destruct. I really believe the main reason that drive so many people away from Atheism is the social embarrassment and danger that "Cowardly Atheists" present. The topic is : Is Jesus God ? What are Atheists doing to this topic ? Can Atheist help Islam, Judaism or Christianity with their bitter hatred. I found fake religious topics that are actually created by troubled Atheists so they can release their psychotic bitterness and hatred toward established religions. The bigotry and blasphemy is overboard on NL and dangerous. A growing number of countries studied are concerned over the growing danger of Atheism, 32 countries already have anti-blasphemy laws, 20 have laws penalizing apostasy and 87 have laws against the defamation of religion, including hate speech against members of religious groups. Islam will fiercely defend its prophets. Jesus is a prophet in their holy Koran and as a result are angry at anyone especially Atheists that insult the holy content of their Koran and Jesus. The hidden truth about "Coward Atheism" is out. It is not "facts" and "science" that drive these idiots, it is hatred !!!! |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 12:19am On Feb 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: To make it brief n short God is the Creator of all things and He is the Guardian over all things." (Quran 39:62) So everything besides God was created by Him, is under His dominion and His disposal, and He brought it into existence. 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by stonemasonn: 12:25am On Feb 12, 2017 |
aminusanti:If you can remove the Jesus is God issue from Christianity there would be no difference between Christianity and Islam |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 12:29am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Godemcee:pls can you educate us on how Quran n prophet mohammad r in support of killing and rape?? 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 12:34am On Feb 12, 2017 |
stonemasonn:dia still a lot of differences like the laws, prayer, etc 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by hopefulLandlord: 3:34am On Feb 12, 2017 |
aminusanti: so its same as the JudeoChristian one |
Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 7:30am On Feb 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:similar but not the same, d creation of the jinn wasn't mention in d judeochristian version but lets agree its 100% dsame for arguement sake...whats d issue in it? 1 Like |
Re: Is Jesus god? by orunto27: 10:06am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Just know that 1x1x1 =1 is simple Arithmetic not complex. |
Re: Is Jesus god? by hopefulLandlord: 11:10am On Feb 12, 2017 |
aminusanti: That's all I wanted to know bro |
Re: Is Jesus god? by Nobody: 11:24am On Feb 12, 2017 |
bg0074real: I'm only answering this because of the gullible ones who think you've made sense. You're not a Christian, you don't know anything about Christianity except what you've been told in the mosque and stuffs like the one above that you've pulled out of social media. I won't exchange any real apologetics with you because it will be tantamount to throwing pearls before swine. But I need you to take a deep and close look at Islam and its founder instead of just practising a religion because you were born into of. Ask around for the meaning of satanic verses. Ask about how people and cultures were decimated by rampaging Islamists who killed and maimed and still continue to do so to people who profess a different religion. Ask around for the true etymological meaning of Allah and compare with the various gods worshipped by the various Babylonian sects especially the moon god. Last I checked your symbol involves a crescent moon. Do you even know why you have a crescent moon and a star atop every mosque and the origin for that? Let's go to the practices and legacy of your founder and compare with the legacy of the founder of Christianity shall we:
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Re: Is Jesus god? by aminusanti(m): 11:50am On Feb 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Whats your ur own bliv on creation story? 1 Like |
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