AntiWailer:
It is a parable and it is for the children and and not swines.

He simply meant sacrifice anything that will not allow you make heaven.

It is better you go to heaven without those things than go to Hello with those things

The hand and eye could mean MONEY or any thing u idolize.

whitebeard:
Op I need:
1.Your date of birth
2.Your I.Q grade
3.The last time u went to church (the church u attend)
4.Description of yourself to convince me that u can't interprete that statement.

fromnigeria:
There is no amount of explanation that will satisfy you my friend. Because you have not ask because you want to learn, rather you have ask so you can continue in your delusion.

Please ask: How can a man be born again? the answer you will get will, help you understand others like the above.

Peacefullove:
Countless times, have heard Christian televangelist and their various adherents Scream on top of their voices the words of Mark 9:43 to force and scare u to convert to the mainstream Christianity. ONLY if you listen to the silent voices beneath the said verse .

it reads

"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire." - Mark 9 vs 43 . only few people would see the silent voice in this verse right now, do you ?

One thing is certain, You no doubt see hell and unquenchable fire . thats all you are concerned about . Kindly listen again.

" And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. "

Now read the bold again and again , Your two hands with which u are scrolling this page would also follow a man to Hell , Am I missing something ? Pls how many dead people have we seen died and their Two hands disappeared into Hell ? answer please . Note that the above verse said man will go into Hell with his Two Hands , haba!

if no one has actually go to this hell with their two hands, Is Jesus Lying ?

Peacefullove:
Countless times, have heard Christian televangelist and their various adherents Scream on top of their voices the words of Mark 9:43 to force and scare u to convert to the mainstream Christianity. ONLY if you listen to the silent voices beneath the said verse .

it reads

"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire." - Mark 9 vs 43 . only few people would see the silent voice in this verse right now, do you ?

One thing is certain, You no doubt see hell and unquenchable fire . thats all you are concerned about . Kindly listen again.

" And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. "

Now read the bold again and again , Your two hands with which u are scrolling this page would also follow a man to Hell , Am I missing something ? Pls how many dead people have we seen died and their Two hands disappeared into Hell ? answer please . Note that the above verse said man will go into Hell with his Two Hands , haba!

if no one has actually go to this hell with their two hands, Is Jesus Lying ?

Peacefullove:


Since u have a better I.Q , tell me : How many people have u seen died and go to hell with their hands , a body part as stated in Mark 9:43 ? Or didnt Jesus say such ?

Peacefullove:


Since u have a better I.Q , tell me : How many people have u seen died and go to hell with their hands , a body part as stated in Mark 9:43 ? Or didnt Jesus say such ?

ayoku777:



Have you taken time to study that verse very well before forming an opinion? There is a difference between reading the Bible and studying the Bible.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into HELL (gehenna), into the fire that never shall be quenched:

The word translated hell in that verse is the Greek word "gehenna". Gehenna is different from Hades.

We don't go to Hades with our physical bodies, people who die go to Hades with their souls and spirits.

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my SOUL IN HELL (Hades), neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.



Hades is where the souls of the dead go after death.




But Gehenna on the other hand refers to the lake of fire. These is where the unbelievers will end up after they resurrect into their physical bodies.




Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell (Hades) delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.

Can you see from these verses?

The dead will be raised out of hades, and resurrected back into their physical bodies. And after judgment, they will be cast spirit, soul and body into the lake of fire which is Gehenna.

So yes, people will go to the lake of fire with their spirit, soul and body. Unlike Hades which only the soul goes to.

Jesus did not lie. I'm sure you made this honest mistake because you didn't study the verses well to understand that there is a scriptural difference between Hades and Gehenna.

Shalom

GodsMopol:


You misunderstood the verse and Jesus can never lie

Hairyrapunzel:


How many people have you seen enter eternal life crippled? You pick out B you leave A.

Peacefullove:
Countless times, have heard Christian televangelist and their various adherents Scream on top of their voices the words of Mark 9:43 to force and scare u to convert to the mainstream Christianity. ONLY if you listen to the silent voices beneath the said verse .

it reads

"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire." - Mark 9 vs 43 . only few people would see the silent voice in this verse right now, do you ?

One thing is certain, You no doubt see hell and unquenchable fire . thats all you are concerned about . Kindly listen again.

" And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. "

Now read the bold again and again , Your two hands with which u are scrolling this page would also follow a man to Hell , Am I missing something ? Pls how many dead people have we seen died and their Two hands disappeared into Hell ? answer please . Note that the above verse said man will go into Hell with his Two Hands , haba!

if no one has actually go to this hell with their two hands, Is Jesus Lying ?

Peacefullove:
Thanks for this, You know if we are to take that translation As I quoted at Op, am definitely right to ask such questions.

Now The actual meaning is Gehenna not hell, is that not a fraudulent translation then?

Peacefullove:
Sorry, comparing the blue with that Bible portion contradicts, If u said the souls of the dead go to Hades after death , Does Rev 20 vs 13 not refute it by indicating those who died in the sea are not in Hades ?

Peacefullove:
@ italics, Even the Hades is described as home to physical bodies. Check another Jesus statement in Luke 16 , The rich man in Hades has eyes , tongues and drinks water . physical properties ., how do u reconcile this ?

Peacefullove:
Sorry sir , How is Gehenna related to Lake of fire .. I read online just now that Gehenna is the valley of hinnom in Jesus day . and its dead animals and corpse/carcasses that are thrown there not Live torture

I expect that if they are parallel, items thrown into Gehenna should burn forever till today as hell theory suggests but thats not the case , this are gaps that need to be filled.

Peacefullove:


So who lied in that verse ? , besides someone just expose another fraud in that verse by saying Infact hell is not even written there in the first place.

Peacefullove:
Countless times, have heard Christian televangelist and their various adherents Scream on top of their voices the words of Mark 9:43 to force and scare u to convert to the mainstream Christianity. ONLY if you listen to the silent voices beneath the said verse .

it reads

"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire." - Mark 9 vs 43 . only few people would see the silent voice in this verse right now, do you ?

One thing is certain, You no doubt see hell and unquenchable fire . thats all you are concerned about . Kindly listen again.

" And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. "

Now read the bold again and again , Your two hands with which u are scrolling this page would also follow a man to Hell , Am I missing something ? Pls how many dead people have we seen died and their Two hands disappeared into Hell ? answer please . Note that the above verse said man will go into Hell with his Two Hands , haba!

if no one has actually go to this hell with their two hands, Is Jesus Lying ?

GodsMopol:


Am sorry to break your heart, I never wanted to go into discussion, if you believe my comment, bye, if you don't believe it, bye, the reason I commented wasn't to give you a response, but to guide some weak Christians who might be misled by the quotation, moreso, I comment to second the view others has about the verse, have a nice time, but know this, hell is real, heaven is real

Peacefullove:
Countless times, have heard Christian televangelist and their various adherents Scream on top of their voices the words of Mark 9:43 to force and scare u to convert to the mainstream Christianity. ONLY if you listen to the silent voices beneath the said verse .

it reads

"And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire." - Mark 9 vs 43 . only few people would see the silent voice in this verse right now, do you ?

One thing is certain, You no doubt see hell and unquenchable fire . thats all you are concerned about . Kindly listen again.

" And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. "

Now read the bold again and again , Your two hands with which u are scrolling this page would also follow a man to Hell , Am I missing something ? Pls how many dead people have we seen died and their Two hands disappeared into Hell ? answer please . Note that the above verse said man will go into Hell with his Two Hands , haba!

if no one has actually go to this hell with their two hands, Is Jesus Lying ?

PROPHETmichael:


Your problem is not english language but the ability to understand the language.

ayoku777:


Gehenna and Hades are both translated hell in the Bible, but they refer to two different specific places.

The greek language has a lot more synonyms than the English language. So there is a great difficulty in coming up with new words to describe different greek terms.

That's why to really study the Bible, you might need to use concordance and other Hebrew and Greek manuals to see the way the words were crafted in the original manuscript.

This kind of confusion only exists if you are trying to read the book of revelation as a scientific book instead of as a poetic and prophetic book.

When the passage said the sea gave up the dead, in context, it means it is not just those that were interred in a burial site that will be raised back to life, but even those lost at sea or eaten.

The soul of every person in hades will be resurrected into a physical body. It doesn't matter how they died or what happened to their bodies after they died, whether it was interred and buried or lost at sea.

In the Bible; words like eyes, mouth, ears, finger, foot, hand, head etc are not exclusive to physical bodies alone. There is also such a thing as spiritual bodies.

1Cor 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.

God is a spirit according to Jesus.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

And still God is described with all these features as well.

* The eyes of the Lord - 2Chr 16:9
* The arm of the Lord - Isaiah 51:9
* The ears of the Lord - Numbers 14:28
* The finger of God - Luke 11:20

Etc...

So according to scriptures, spirits have these parts too. We humans are made in the image of God remember.

So yes spirits in hades can have these parts too, those parts are not exclusive to physical bodies.

Peacefullove:


thanks for your response , If its a parable , please how could a parable hands be thrown into a literal Hell ? Contradictory!

and if the two hands Mean Money or anything been Idolized, what does the Hell into which they are thrown represent ?

note; you just successfully rendered Hell as a symbol

Hairyrapunzel:


How can a parable of faithful and discreet slave become a literal group of 7 men in new York called governing body members?

If you take 144000 going to heaven as literal how come their tribes and the fact that they are only undefiled men not taken as literal too.

You decide what you can take as literal and symbolic yet other Christians can't




If only 144000 is literally going to heaven then what does the only men who have been undefiled and tribes of isreal mean?

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That means your only 144000 going to heaven is symbolic if the succeeding statement is symbolic

Peacefullove:


What is 144,000 ? and how does it relate to the Op ?

Hairyrapunzel:


You can talk about literal and symbolic passages used in the bible by Christians yet you cannot handle your own literal and symbolic passage.

Hell fire is real at least it is better than the mass genocide your jehovah will commit on earth so you people can take peoples properties and inherit earth

Peacefullove:


Please Do You smoke weed

my advice is that you Channel your energy and hatred to the JW people on NL or create a thread and invite them, Rather than exhibiting your foolishness on my thread . Stick to the topic and dont derail.

Hairyrapunzel:


Dont think every wordly person smokes weed because your religion teaches that. Lol. Cannot handle criticism eya. Ask Jesus if he lied. I don't have hatred for jw people but how I have problem with people who say their God is loving yet will commit mass genocide on people who refuse to become jws yet theSame people say a religion that believes in hellfire has a cruel God.

Matthew 7:4-5 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

Jesus doesn't lie and if you have a problem with someone using two hands to go to hell which has unquenchable fire I said take it to Jesus Christ.