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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by set2build: 4:09pm On Mar 27, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 4:28pm On Mar 27, 2017
Mayor78:
This oyinbo people I dont know what to make of them. Imagine this one delivering a factory made measure to make roofing caracas. All dimensions are taken, sketched and cut exactly to nearest measured millimetre. Na waa, I am just wondering if our carpenters and engineers here can give us similar services without stories 'Oga the wood wey you buy no reach',
Oga no be my fault we be say the length no reach, na as the engine de cut am be that!
Oga na small problem now we go come amend am but you go put small money!
Oga we no get light since last month the work never ready!
Oga we no dey oyinbo land I never see person wey do roofing caracas for workshop-ooh!
Oga you wan turn us to winch, how you wan make we measure your roof and doam for another place.

Our people will come with ndless limiting excuses as they look for ways to dealt with you? I wonder oooo!!!
Will the clients be willing to pay the due cost also?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:32pm On Mar 27, 2017
Daboomb:


1000 Likes!

You nailed it.
Its all about GREED
.

Thankfully I'm in a position to wait them out grin

I just have little bits and bobs to do onsite for now.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 7:31pm On Mar 27, 2017
set2build:
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The link to the prices does not work!!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 7:45pm On Mar 27, 2017
rabcnesbit:


The link to the prices does not work!!!

Okay, found another link that worked wink
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 7:57pm On Mar 27, 2017
Mayor78:
That's the problem with Nigeria. When price of materials goes up exponentially for whatever reason, it stays at that point.
The cost of this very important building material 'cement' went up sharply because of increase in dollar to naira exchange rate, now the dollar to naira has crashed, cement price hasn't come down as reports from above suggests.

Even where the price of roof and roofing materials are coming down, it still has little significant because you can't roof without building.

Nigeria traders are shylock fraudsters ready and willing without mercy to pounce on their customers at any given opportunity all the time.
I no know whether God go bless them for their unreasonablilities.

The dollar jusr started gowing down say about 2-3 weeks now .its not sufficient time for prices to come down as most traders have stock bought at higher prices which needs to be depleted (FIFO)
Lets give a timeline of say may/june and see how it goes before we can put the blame on them,nobogy would like to sell at a.loss taking into consideration the effect of increase in dollar price to their holdings stock

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abouzaid: 8:09pm On Mar 27, 2017
Flaghouse1:


The dollar jusr started gowing down say about 2-3 weeks now .its not sufficient time for prices to come down as most traders have stock bought at higher prices which needs to be depleted (FIFO)
Lets give a timeline of say may/june and see how it goes before we can put the blame on them,nobogy would like to sell at a.loss taking into consideration the effect of increase in dollar price to their holdings stock
the guy also failed to realise that the cost of cement is actually determined by the manufacturers with dangote playing the leading role rather by the traders.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 8:29pm On Mar 27, 2017
abouzaid:
the guy also failed to realise that the cost of cement is actually determined by the manufacturers with dangote playing the leading role rather by the traders.

Rightly put,the government is really not helping the situation as only dangote has market monopoly,invariably dictating.the price direction in the country if other competitors are given same level playing field like dangote the.effect of the dollar increase of some months back will really have negligible effect on price then say like 30% upward price review taking into consideration the local.content input on production over time
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 9:51pm On Mar 27, 2017
abouzaid:
the guy also failed to realise that the cost of cement is actually determined by the manufacturers with dangote playing the leading role rather by the traders.

Dangote is a Nigerian, and he is a trader albeit a high scale commodity trader. He is a chief culprit in the business of greed trading in Nigeria. So also the Olarenwaju's at Ojo Oba market.

The point is that they didn't give time to increase the price of goods but now expect to be given time to sell off old stocks that may not have been imported within the dollar hike period.

We go blow grammer here all we like but it can't change these traders affinity to cheating and greed as they held us spell bound without option.

The essence of venting is to let them know we knew of their tendencies for greed and cheating such that their holy than thou attitudes is patronising to say the least.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:10am On Mar 28, 2017
Mayor78:


Dangote is a Nigerian, and he is a trader albeit a high scale commodity trader. He is a chief culprit in the business of greed trading in Nigeria. So also the Olarenwaju's at Ojo Oba market.

The point is that they didn't give time to increase the price of goods but now expect to be given time to sell off old stocks that may not have been imported within the dollar hike period.

We go blow grammer here all we like but it can't change these traders affinity to cheating and greed as they held us spell bound without option.

The essence of venting is to let them know we knew of their tendencies for greed and cheating such that their holy than thou attitudes is patronising to say the least.

I agree with you and I vote with my money.

Gate is locked until further notice as in when the market stabilizes and I determine that wink

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 1:19am On Mar 28, 2017
Flaghouse1:


The dollar jusr started gowing down say about 2-3 weeks now .its not sufficient time for prices to come down as most traders have stock bought at higher prices which needs to be depleted (FIFO)
Lets give a timeline of say may/june and see how it goes before we can put the blame on them,nobogy would like to sell at a.loss taking into consideration the effect of increase in dollar price to their holdings stock

what do you think will happen, if say tomorrow, the Naira depreciates by as much as #3 to the Dollar...... going by previous experience and behaviour of Nigerian sellers/Traders?

Do you think they would wait for two-three weeks .....before jerking-up prices again?
Just asking nii o!

Greed ehn, will kill our people.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 6:51am On Mar 28, 2017
Daboomb:


what do you think will happen, if say tomorrow, the Naira depreciates by as much as #3 to the Dollar...... going by previous experience and behaviour of Nigerian sellers/Traders?

Do you think they would wait for two-three weeks .....before jerking-up prices again?
Just asking nii o!

Greed ehn, will kill our people.

Well my position is based on an ideal situation
Trust nigerians once increase in dollar rate happens price goes up,just our greedy tendencies

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by set2build: 8:08am On Mar 28, 2017
rabcnesbit:


The link to the prices does not work!!!

Hello there, the link is www.set2build.com/market-prices, it's working.

otherwise you can go to www.set2build.com and scroll to the bottom and click "in the open market" that takes you straight to the prices.

If you are viewing it from your mobile device, you would have to use the pdf icon to open the list of prices
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by set2build: 8:18am On Mar 28, 2017
set2build:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 12:08pm On Mar 28, 2017
akinolaolujide:

Will the clients be willing to pay the due cost also?

Very good question

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 12:57pm On Mar 28, 2017
Mayor78:
This oyinbo people I dont know what to make of them. Imagine this one delivering a factory made measure to make roofing caracas. All dimensions are taken, sketched and cut exactly to nearest measured millimetre. Na waa, I am just wondering if our carpenters and engineers here can give us similar services without stories 'Oga the wood wey you buy no reach',
Oga no be my fault we be say the length no reach, na as the engine de cut am be that!
Oga na small problem now we go come amend am but you go put small money!
Oga we no get light since last month the work never ready!
Oga we no dey oyinbo land I never see person wey do roofing caracas for workshop-ooh!
Oga you wan turn us to winch, how you wan make we measure your roof and doam for another place.

Our people will come with ndless limiting excuses as they look for ways to dealt with you? I wonder oooo!!!

I hate the fact that most of our Nigeria trade folks can't get their act straight but not withstanding I will never go with the option of fabricating roof Caracas offsite.

Reason being that your final cost will triple what you currently pay. Imagine after paying for fabrication then you pay for transportation and then rent heavy cranes to lift Caracas to roof top and finally trade guys to install. Just imagine what it will cost you to rent a crane and operator for a day. The end cost for junior kobo kobo guys like us is not worth it.

This again is just my opinion

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 1:29pm On Mar 28, 2017
Qc1:



There is a manufacturer at Aga/sholebo in ikorodu

Can you please give me the contact details of the manufacturer or his address? (phone number will be most preferable though
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ANBAKO: 1:32pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hi All,

Please I need advise on what to my toilet doors. I am ina dilemma of what type of door to install. I was thinking of using wooden doors painted with water resistant paints but everyone is advising me against that. I am being advised to do aluminum door but my fear is that they get damaged easily especially the hinges.

I need advise based on experience and the options that I can explore.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ANBAKO: 1:36pm On Mar 28, 2017
Marilo:
Kindly drop your contact if you can supply Vibrated "stonecrete" construction blocks (Blocks made of Stone dust) on the mainland. Needed ASAP.

Thanks.

If you are around GBAGA, ijede, gberigbe you can call Iya Ibadan on 0803 405 8562.

You will thank me later!!!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 1:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
ANBAKO:


If you are around GBAGA, ijede, gberigbe you can call Iya Ibadan on 0803 405 8562.

You will thank me later!!!!

Thanks bro...I am not in the country at the moment but will ask my contact to get in touch with the person.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:58pm On Mar 28, 2017
ice4u999:


I hate the fact that most of our Nigeria trade folks can't get their act straight but not withstanding I will never go with the option of fabricating roof Caracas offsite.

Reason being that your final cost will triple what you currently pay. Imagine after paying for fabrication then you pay for transportation and then rent heavy cranes to lift Caracas to roof top and finally trade guys to install. Just imagine what it will cost you to rent a crane and operator for a day. The end cost for junior kobo kobo guys like us is not worth it.

This again is just my opinion

The reason the oyinbos do it is that it's actually cheaper this way.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:03pm On Mar 28, 2017
ANBAKO:
Hi All,

Please I need advise on what to my toilet doors. I am ina dilemma of what type of door to install. I was thinking of using wooden doors painted with water resistant paints but everyone is advising me against that. I am being advised to do aluminum door but my fear is that they get damaged easily especially the hinges.

I need advise based on experience and the options that I can explore.

Thanks

I used China doors.

It has 3 hinges and it's in a private house not a school so minimal use. Not sure how the hinges won't last.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ANBAKO: 3:47pm On Mar 28, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I used China doors.

It has 3 hinges and it's in a private house not a school so minimal use. Not sure how the hinges won't last.

Thanks chairman. The issue is that the door post dimension is not standard 3'. It's about 2.5' (please don't ask me why cool ). This why I cannot used standard sized doors hence I need something locally fabricated and "customized " to the doorpost.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 4:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
akinolaolujide:

Will the clients be willing to pay the due cost also?

What cost?

It is cheaper and makes for more accurate measurements.

The problem is that Nigerian builders lack ideas and innovation. One pattern/style comes up and everyone else copies. We continue doing things the way it was done in the 18th century. Most oyibo innovations are aimed at efficiency, reducing cost and saving time. That picture you saw is an evidence. The same wood, nails, tape and carpenter and subsequent transportation. Oh and the same wood lifting is involved to put them in place. Where is the added cost?

As I posted a long time ago, a Chinese developer built a skyscraper carcass in less than two weeks. Why? Because there are professionals working as a team. Give the same job to Nigerians, equip them with measuring tapes and they will still give a mediocre output. They'd rather have ten jobs running concurrently instead of concentrating on one and finishing it well. Sometimes you have to chase carpenters and plumbers around to complete a job you gave them. It has more to do with character, culture than cost. We are mentally and intellectually lazy. Without looking at the details, your mind already raced to money while erroneously assuming that it is more expensive. It is this defeatist attitude and fear of trying new ideas that make for stagnant development.

If in doubt, think about our refineries in this 21st century.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:59pm On Mar 28, 2017
ANBAKO:


Thanks chairman. The issue is that the door post dimension is not standard 3'. It's about 2.5' (please don't ask me why cool ). This why I cannot used standard sized doors hence I need something locally fabricated and "customized " to the doorpost.

Thanks

Use locally made solid wooden door and paint it with oil base paint like you previously said. However, you need to design the layout of the space from a wet room as normally practice in Nigeria to a bathroom.

Most bath spaces in Nigeria are wetrooms, you hang a shower on the wall and tile the floor. So during bath time, water splashes on the door leading to wet rot of the door. This is wrong. The bathroom is constantly wet so it's difficult to get to toilet with bear feet and climb straight back to bed.

You need to introduce a bath or bath tub or use blocks to section and enclose a part of the room into a shower cubicle and use shower curtain during bath time. This will control considerably water splashing on the door.

I did same but for the life of me, I can't locate the pictures. I think this may be in Nigeria. The pictures would have been very helpful to you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 5:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
Marilo:


Can you please give me the contact details of the manufacturer or his address? (phone number will be most preferable though

I've told you the location. Get yourself there to talk to them yourself. I won't leave Canada to do that for you. Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 6:20pm On Mar 28, 2017
Qc1:


I've told you the location. Get yourself there to talk to them yourself. I won't leave Canada to do that for you. Thanks.

Oga,you seem to be in a bad mood today...Who told you I am not in Canada (or anywhere else apart from Nigeria) as you are? You see why it's not good to jump the gun? I have asked for a favour,all I got back was some attitude! Come down of your high horse,you ain't feeding anyone here.

If I ask you a favour,you can choose to refuse but to be cunningly insultive is the last thing I expect from you. Thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by wanaj0: 6:20pm On Mar 28, 2017
There are reasons that makes it cheaper.

Firstly, there are 'standards' of materials. Such we don't have in Nigeria especially with wood. They have invested a lot in machinery that help them to mass produced standard materials.

Secondly, the infrastructure supports such construction practice. We have people building in places that delivery trucks cannot even reach. Is that where you will ask a crane to go to.

Thirdly, things are handled by professionals with great attention to details. Before you start construction you do a 'constructability' review that help to understand how the construction will be done and the issues that will arise. Still remember the IPP being constructed in Nigeria where they forgot that the turbine floated on the barge cannot pass under the bridge! Imagine how many of such 'little' things you will experience in Nigeria. Will you pay for the relocation of PHCN poles/wires for the truck carrying the roof carcass to get access to your site.

Now most equipment that are used on site use electrical power. Are you willing to provide uninterrupted power throughout the duration of your build with adequate lifting facilities? Ordinary steel scaffold we are not willing to provide hence the use of bamboo!

InvertedHammer:


What cost?

It is cheaper and makes for more accurate measurements.

The problem is that Nigerian builders lack ideas and innovation. One pattern/style comes up and everyone else copies. We continue doing things the way it was done in the 18th century. Most oyibo innovations are aimed at efficiency, reducing cost and saving time. That picture you saw is an evidence. The same wood, nails, tape and carpenter and subsequent transportation. Oh and the same wood lifting is involved to put them in place. Where is the added cost?

As I posted a long time ago, a Chinese developer built a skyscraper carcass in less than two weeks. Why? Because there are professionals working as a team. Give the same job to Nigerians, equip them with measuring tapes and they will still give a mediocre output. They'd rather have ten jobs running concurrently instead of concentrating on one and finishing it well. Sometimes you have to chase carpenters and plumbers around to complete a job you gave them. It has more to do with character, culture than cost. We are mentally and intellectually lazy. Without looking at the details, your mind already raced to money while erroneously assuming that it is more expensive. It is this defeatist attitude and fear of trying new ideas that make for stagnant development.

If in doubt, think about our refineries in this 21st century.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 8:34pm On Mar 28, 2017
InvertedHammer:


What cost?

It is cheaper and makes for more accurate measurements.

The problem is that Nigerian builders lack ideas and innovation. One pattern/style comes up and everyone else copies. We continue doing things the way it was done in the 18th century. Most oyibo innovations are aimed at efficiency, reducing cost and saving time. That picture you saw is an evidence. The same wood, nails, tape and carpenter and subsequent transportation. Oh and the same wood lifting is involved to put them in place. Where is the added cost?

As I posted a long time ago, a Chinese developer built a skyscraper carcass in less than two weeks. Why? Because there are professionals working as a team. Give the same job to Nigerians, equip them with measuring tapes and they will still give a mediocre output. They'd rather have ten jobs running concurrently instead of concentrating on one and finishing it well. Sometimes you have to chase carpenters and plumbers around to complete a job you gave them. It has more to do with character, culture than cost. We are mentally and intellectually lazy. Without looking at the details, your mind already raced to money while erroneously assuming that it is more expensive. It is this defeatist attitude and fear of trying new ideas that make for stagnant development.

If in doubt, think about our refineries in this 21st century.
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Boss what is the rate you pay for labour compare to what is obtainable outside most bearly manage enough money to even afford tools. I know outsid naija the labour rate is from from 3-7dollars per hour compare dat to what you pay. Plus are these machines readily available that allows you cut most of these materials precisely. And when someone gets this the client refuseto pay for it. In naija you see men pricing professional services like say naahh oyingbo market them dey. Lols. The truth is if you are willing to pay the cost you can achieve any finnish you want in naija. Am very sure of that.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 9:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
Hello. There does not seem to be much information about uPVC windows. Anybody has experience using them. Are they cheaper than aluminum, and are they durable? Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenazuu(m): 10:45pm On Mar 28, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I used China doors.

It has 3 hinges and it's in a private house not a school so minimal use. Not sure how the hinges won't last.

Hello Boss, did you import your toilet seat or you bought it in Nigeria? very nice

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