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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 12:38pm On Apr 03, 2017
tejpot:

Jungle just.. what? Was tire placed around her neck? Was she burnt alive? Was she lynched? If the answer is yes, then I believe you.

I don't need you to believe me. However, if you care then you should do some reflection.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Zenithpeak(m): 12:39pm On Apr 03, 2017
babablogger:
Op we know she defamed his character but we believe he being a pastor he should overlook it
Since he didn't he should be called a fake Man of God
Cause as a man of God you should learn to forgive no matter the atrocities committed against you but no he is a yahoo yahoo pastor only interested in the tithes of his followers

Wouldn't it be better to try to win her soul instead of try to condemn her to jail
Sorry o but anybodybwey dey go this man church ehn well make i shut up


If a pastor deliberately defame your character with the aim of adding more followers to his church will you be going about with the stigma while you can seek redress in the court of competent jurisdiction?

Kemi Olunloyo never tender any apology talkless of being remorseful for her crime. No one forgives unless you ask for it..... EVEN GOD.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by chigoizie7(m): 12:40pm On Apr 03, 2017
AntiWailer:
Then safe to say Churches and Pastors should start paying tax.

You can not enjoy privileges under religion and when it comes to acting what you preach we say it is two consenting adults sleeping with one another or fighting.



Until it is backed by law to pay taxes, apart from that they are under no obligation to do so.

Make it a law 1st, and then any church that refuses to pay taxes will face the wrath of the constitution.



Whatever u just wrote does not make it any right for anyone's character to be defamed or their fundamental human rights trampled upon just because of sentiments.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by tejpot(m): 12:41pm On Apr 03, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I don't need you to believe me. However, if you care then you should do some reflection.
I will do a reflection on the outcome of the matter in court. Thanks
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by yabatown: 12:41pm On Apr 03, 2017
signz:
It seems her family have ignored her.

I simply pray the court to sentence her to a Psychiatric hospital.

She really needs help.
Before they do so they should padlock her two hands so she never get to write false rubbish about people
Stupid old fool who her father has disowned and her family are rejoicing over her imprisonment
For all those who are sayin that she should be forgiven, let them go and bail her, then take her back to their homes
Kemi Olunloyo should be in a mental asylum, but first let her face the full consequences of her irresponsibility and recklessness.
Let her stay in prison till December, at least!

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by olalol(m): 12:42pm On Apr 03, 2017
Is the offence not bailable?
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by fmarshal(m): 12:42pm On Apr 03, 2017
babablogger:
Op we know she defamed his character but we believe he being a pastor he should overlook it
Since he didn't he should be called a fake Man of God
Cause as a man of God you should learn to forgive no matter the atrocities committed against you but no he is a yahoo yahoo pastor only interested in the tithes of his followers

Wouldn't it be better to try to win her soul instead of try to condemn her to jail
Sorry o but anybodybwey dey go this man church ehn well make i shut up

Jehovah forgave David for taking Uriah's wife. But He also assured David that he was gonna pay for the sin.
That repayment came through Absolam, David's son rising against him and wanting to take the kingdom by force. Absolam died in the process.
That was the payment God spoke of.
This pastor could be praying for her soul while she is locked up, but the truth is that sometimes, we just have to suffer to learn.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by oshorstan(f): 12:43pm On Apr 03, 2017
Rapmoney:
Just recently, we have seen countless posts and articles on why Pastor David Ibiyiomie isn't acting like a Christian or why he should stop 'persecuting' the blogger, Kemi Olunloyo, a woman well known for her frequent defamation of people's character (a crime under the law) and her 'garage journalism' all in the quest to be famous.

Firstly, we should see Pastor Ibiyiomie as a bonafide citizen, a Nigerian, before we take a look at his religious background. He is a Nigerian like every other Nigerian who is entitled to protected rights as eshrined in our constitution. It amazes me that many folks talk about fundamental human rights, yet see everything wrong in punishing people found to have defamed the character of others and criticize the victims when they pursue their rights through legitimate means..

Defamation of people's character is against the law, whether we like it or not. Anyone who feels his character has been defamed is free to seek redress in law courts. It is not out of place. We should stop hiding under religious doctrines to support character defamation in Nigeria. Things like this are not condoned in saner climes. When you say or write negative things about people and accuse them of doing something evil, you must have concrete evidence. Character defamation is not and has never been a comedy or joke! Such things can cause damages and crises in the homes or organizations of victims. Now, we talk of forgiveness? Why did Ananias and his wife, Sapphira die when it was said they told a lie? Why weren't they forgiven by God and the apostles as we have been told in the Bible? Irrespective of our different religions, you cannot separate the laws of the land from the citizens. Even Jesus recognized the laws of the state as at then when he paid taxes to the Roman government. In essence, the law should be allowed to take its course irrespective of our religious doctrines.

Most of these folks castigating Pastor Ibiyeomie never cared to caution Kemi Olunloyo when she was busy writing stuffs about people where there was no concrete (even soft) evidence. The hypocritical nature of many Nigerians has come to play again. How many articles did we read cautioning Ms Olunloyo when she was writing what she wrote? Now, we are seeing floods of posts and articles on social media condemning the pastor on his stand. Sincerely speaking, being a Christian does not mean one should not exercise his or her fundamental rights; it does not mean one should condone character defamation. How many of us do ask if Kemi Olunloyo had any evidence to prove her claims as at when she wrote about the pastor. I am not speaking as a religious person; I am speaking as a Nigerian citizen who is much aware that citizens possess fundamental rights which they should enjoy. I don't know Pastor Ibiyiomie personally and I have never been to his church before. I am not one of those who shout "judge not" or see pastors as saints. What I am saying in essence is that Nigerians should stop criticizing the man because he decided to take a stand that would see that his rights are protected by the law. What is the essence of a crime when there is no punishment?

Kemi Olunloyo deliberately defamed a citizen's character. That is the fact; whether it involves a pastor, magician, juju priest or a Bhudda whorshipper is irrelevant here. She should face whatever punishment the law dishes to her. Let it serve as a lesson for others who defame the character of others, especially, on social media, as a thing of joke or to increase popularity.


well said

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by fmarshal(m): 12:45pm On Apr 03, 2017
AntiWailer:


The law is confused.

Plenty of the churches makes profit.

Pastors invest the money wisely and make money.


It has never been a perfect law, and it never would be.
Even the laws God gave to Moses wasn't perfect...... Remember the rich man that came to Jesus wanting to be saved? Jesus acknowledged that the man had indeed kept all the laws from his childhood, still it wasn't enough to save him.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Rapmoney(m): 12:47pm On Apr 03, 2017
SalamRushdie:


Then he should just sue her to court for defamation why is spending so much money to make sure her rights of freedom of movt ate breached ..Do you know how much Ur pastor would have spent to be able to move her from Ibadan to Portharcourt and how much will be spent to make sure she was sent to prison custody for a case not worth it ...That pastor acted poorly I must say
Every right has limitations. Your freedom to move as a citizen may not be guaranteed if u are found wanting by the law.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by moupe: 12:49pm On Apr 03, 2017
manu1:
This nutcase by name Kemi Olunloyo has been hiding under excuse of blogger to defame people and manufacture all sort of falsehood against people so they should keep her locked up and even flog her everyday because she has gone too far and believing that nothing can happen to her. Good for her. I thought she claim her dad is a governor. Oya now. She is still rotting away in jail. From there next stop is psychiatric hospital.

GBAM! She should face the music. All the hypocrites here that are quoting Jesus are only doing so because her libel and fake news does not affect them. The pastor is the one affected. He has every right to take action to protect his rights. Kemi is shameless and unscrupulous, broke the law and now paying the price

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Zenithpeak(m): 12:58pm On Apr 03, 2017
AntiWailer:


The victim is a special citizen.

He enjoys privileges based on his faith.

He should act what is in the faith.
Lo
Or we withdraw every privilege so we can treat them same way.



So being a pastor is now a license to be defamed, ridiculed, illegally accused threatned and humilated for crying loud sake?

Bro kindly withdraw your evil priviledges and allow justice to take is course.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:02pm On Apr 03, 2017
One question, has kemi asked to be forgiven? Does she care about it? Has she pleaded guilty and sought compassion? All these hypocrites calling for forgiveness for a lady that caresless. Op, No mind them

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Rapmoney(m): 1:04pm On Apr 03, 2017
amaifehenry:

I stand with u bro. No mind these hypocrites. Its really painful when someone starts to lie against u. Even the strongest of men cry sef. I believe the pastor is right. You can't be stupidly writing defamatory articles against people. Don't misjudge it with freedom of speech
Good my brother. Social media is now a platform in Nigeria where people's characters are defamed frequently and we all see it as joke or comedy. I'm sure many folks don't know the crises such defamation can cause. A man who sees the dead body of someone he doesn't know being carried in a coffin along the road would think it is a log of wood but when the dead is related to you, then u know how painful it is to lose someone.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Rapmoney(m): 1:05pm On Apr 03, 2017
majekdom2:
One question, has kemi asked to be forgiven? Does she care about it? Has she pleaded guilty and sought compassion? All these hypocrites calling for forgiveness for a lady that caresless. Op, No mind them
wink
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Teespice(f): 1:06pm On Apr 03, 2017
gbam.
op chop knuckle jare.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by silentshots: 1:11pm On Apr 03, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
@rapmoney
Mathew 5:44

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,



Pastor Ibiyeomie calls Christ his Lord but failed to do what Jesus said he should do.

Luke 6:46

And why call me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?



is it not in your bible that you should suffer not the witch to live? or let him that has no sin cast the stone first?

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by chloedogie(m): 1:11pm On Apr 03, 2017
Sketchandcraft:
what am telling you is that churches has been commercialize and need to be taxed.. The more churches we have the more problem we are creating.... I propose that all churches must either have an industry or all churches must be converted to industries while Sunday's are reserved for members and workers to be worshiping inside the premises by doing this we won't have problems with unemployment and all our pastors will be running on part time and won't be depending on offerings and tithes to survive.

Can you walk into a shrine and tell this to the Babalawo you meet there? Do you know how many shrines we have all over the country? When it comes to God you guys just talk as you wish. People who patronize the shrines too also pay money to the babalawos. Why not enter one and claim govt tax? And either you like it or not, churches are not industries and will never be.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by zoey4(f): 1:12pm On Apr 03, 2017
illegalGangla:
Weti this opolo sorry op dey talk......a servant should do like His master...pastors should behave like Jesus...he was called a liar,prince of demons and so many names yet he didn't even say a word to defend himself.

Ibiyeomie na big maluu.
He is a liar
And God wet dey expose go expose am.....
Look him babas them which of then sue...?

If you no know wet in to talk op go dey watch African magic
It is your generation that is a maluu. so because is spiritual fathers kept quiet, he should also keep quiet for defamation of character. if he keeps quiet I know you will be the number one person to say that he is guilty thats why he kept quiet. abeg shut up that your stinking mouth if you don't have anything better to say.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by silentshots: 1:14pm On Apr 03, 2017
AntiWailer:
Then safe to say Churches and Pastors should start paying tax.

You can not enjoy privileges under religion and when it comes to acting what you preach we say it is two consenting adults sleeping with one another or fighting.


And who says they don't pay tax?
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by farem: 1:15pm On Apr 03, 2017
babablogger:
Op we know she defamed his character but we believe he being a pastor he should overlook it
Since he didn't he should be called a fake Man of God
Cause as a man of God you should learn to forgive no matter the atrocities committed against you but no he is a yahoo yahoo pastor only interested in the tithes of his followers

Wouldn't it be better to try to win her soul instead of try to condemn her to jail
Sorry o but anybodybwey dey go this man church ehn well make i shut up

Those who have ignored are stupidly being term guilty. They , these novice, claim the 'facts' are too overwhelming -the reason why the person involved is keeping quiet. They go as far as using proverb like -There is no smoke without fire.
It's time for them to answer for their reckless accusations

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by DozieInc(m): 1:24pm On Apr 03, 2017
Zenithpeak:



If a pastor deliberately defame your character with the aim of adding more followers to his church will you be going about with the stigma while you can seek redress in the court of competent jurisdiction?

Kemi Olunloyo never tender any apology talkless of being remorseful for her crime. No one forgives unless you ask for it..... EVEN GOD.

TRUTH.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by ghettochild(m): 1:33pm On Apr 03, 2017
we all know kemi tells the truth irrespective of how the controversial she is. she has spoken agains bigger pastors than this so called ibislayme of a pastor. what has any politician or anybody sahara reporter have talk abt or defamed done to them? how many newspapers have been successfully sued in nigerian court? spare me those biblical heresay. he jst wants to shut her up.whc wont work.let kemi get her bail n sfe how many thngs we wd stil get 2 hear
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:37pm On Apr 03, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
@rapmoney
Mathew 5:44

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,



Pastor Ibiyeomie calls Christ his Lord but failed to do what Jesus said he should do.

Luke 6:46

And why call me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
loving your enemies don't mean you won't report them to authorities when they misbehave. If you catch a murderer or have an information abou him, will you keep shut because you love him? So he can kill more. Pls be wise.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:40pm On Apr 03, 2017
WriteBoy:
Rapmoney should take a seat please.

We all know that Kemi's tongue runs unbidden like a flash flood. We know she has written many nasty things about different people in the society. She has commited an offence that no doubt she should pay for.

Now, what are we against?

We are against the use of influence and the judicial system to humiliate a fellow citizen.

Has she been convicted of said offence? NO!

Should she appear in court in a convicted person's garb? NO!

Is pastor David Christlike with all the venom that he has pursued this case with? Hell NO!

Religious leaders in this country are a curious set of fellows -- they are all about do what I say and not what I do.





how will she pay if she is not taken to court? Where is the use of influence? Why would you publish a fake news about someone you know has influence more than you? Will you go on TV for instance and say Buhari sleep with your mother? Many of you need checkup really.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by emperorAY(m): 1:41pm On Apr 03, 2017
If you do not forgive,u ar nt a Christian No matter who you are,whether a pastor or a member
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:43pm On Apr 03, 2017
symbianDON:
I stopped reading at the point were the op said the said pastor is first a Nigerian. I personally think it's wrong. every Christian ought to see himself first as a Christian before considering his nationality. yes! the blogger woman went beyond her boundaries by miles but the question is, 'what would Jesus have done if it were Him in the pastor's place?'.....this ought to form the basis upon which a Christian should take decisions in critical matters as this. this is my personal opinion though.
Crap! Do you see Jews, gentiles and pharisees been used in the bible. Do you see Hebrew, amlekites, isrealites and tribes been used in the bible. Religion a nationality are different classes and both applies to any individual at any given instance.
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:43pm On Apr 03, 2017
WriteBoy:
Rapmoney should take a seat please.

We all know that Kemi's tongue runs unbidden like a flash flood. We know she has written many nasty things about different people in the society. She has commited an offence that no doubt she should pay for.

Now, what are we against?

We are against the use of influence and the judicial system to humiliate a fellow citizen.

Has she been convicted of said offence? NO!

Should she appear in court in a convicted person's garb? NO!

Is pastor David Christlike with all the venom that he has pursued this case with? Hell NO!

Religious leaders in this country are a curious set of fellows -- they are all about do what I say and not what I do.





how will she pay if she is not taken to court? Where is the use of influence? Why would you publish a fake news about someone you know has influence more than you? Will you go on TV for instance and say Buhari sleeps with your mother? Many of you need checkup really.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:46pm On Apr 03, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I still do not understand why this is not a simple civil case.

The OPs write up makes me sad to be a Nigerian.

He writes fluently but he's no better than those that support jungle justice. Because frankly this is what this is.
because many of you do not know the laws guiding the profession " journalism". In this case, many of you should shut up first, learn and then comment.

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Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by bkool7(m): 1:46pm On Apr 03, 2017
Kondomatic:
Any church that has schools or anything it earns money from should pay tax for that but the Church itself should not be taxed because church money are contributed by people who pay taxes.

For christ sake...people that buy from me pay taxes . That means I don't need to pay tax !
Re: Kemi Olunloyo: We Should Stop Using Religion As Excuse For Character Defamation by Nobody: 1:46pm On Apr 03, 2017
symbianDON:
I stopped reading at the point were the op said the said pastor is first a Nigerian. I personally think it's wrong. every Christian ought to see himself first as a Christian before considering his nationality. yes! the blogger woman went beyond her boundaries by miles but the question is, 'what would Jesus have done if it were Him in the pastor's place?'.....this ought to form the basis upon which a Christian should take decisions in critical matters as this. this is my personal opinion though.
Crap! Do you see Jews, gentiles and pharisees been used in the bible. Do you see Hebrew, amlekites, isrealites and tribes been used in the bible. Religion a nationality are different classes and both applies to any individual at any given instance.

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