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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Nobody: 10:28am On Apr 27, 2017
Obasanjo was a scammer but Jonathan to the same degree was the embodiment of naivety. OBJ is very correct but disingenuous because Jonathan's lack of presidential bearing should be well known to him from the beginning. Should I say part of the qualifying credentials in OBJ's eyes because he never wanted a strong president who will open his books and call him to account. Jonathan deployed resources to build and rebuild infrastructure for the north. He neglected his own constituency to please the north. They looked at him and laughed. He visited Ota severally to secure support from OBJ. A bit of stock taking will bring Jonathan many regrets about opportunities wasted. When prompted but only on flimsy excuses he quickly dropped Festus Odimegwu, dropped Barth Nnaji, dropped Mrs Stella Oduah. All Igbo people who are deemed expendable when ever there is a united show of consternation or concern from the Yoruba and Hausa. Even refusing to make peace in his own Niger delta by favouring the Ijaw in all manner of contracts. He was very mute when the Urhobos cried they were neglected. Now the north is in charge look at how they are unravelling Jonathan who had adequate opportunity to bring Obasanjo and Buhari to answer for their misdeeds in Nigeria. Jonathan must understand there are legitimate grounds to bring him to book. So he better stay very quiet.

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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by brownhawk: 10:39am On Apr 27, 2017
Nne5:
It's 2years and everybody's still talking Jonathan.
Omg
open ur head even if his catastrophic handwork affects Nigeria for millions of years we will talk of him cos he deserves it.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by precious1967(m): 10:43am On Apr 27, 2017
not too small for d position but inexperience finished him.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by OKorowanta: 10:53am On Apr 27, 2017
PapaBrowne:
There something about Jonathan that is somewhat legendary.
Can't really place it, but there's just something really unique about him


Nor be only unique, na sodiq
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Nobody: 10:57am On Apr 27, 2017
ITbomb:
Jonathan is a legend already.
Not a day passes without him being mentioned even after two years after leaving power


Yeah, a legendary buffoon, how about that?
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Demo0(m): 10:58am On Apr 27, 2017
criminalmindz:
This shameless old man won't respect himself and quit politics . Obj nigeria is not your fathers inheritance. Your the must deceitful man in nigeria, full of lies, no shame. Please let Gej be, not all nigerians are fools we know who you really . Ur an agent of darkness , always mentioning God. How can a self acclaimed child of God build mosque and think he will make heaven. Obj and ameachi feel they are blessed children that's why the find fault in other humans. Obj is the most corrupt nigerian president. You were a failure in 76, failure in 99 , failure 2003. Nigeria is too big for you to be your personal property. Retire to otta and let Nigeria be. your not god, Enough is enough!

E pain am
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by juman(m): 11:00am On Apr 27, 2017
precious1967:
not too small for d position but inexperience finished him.

You are right. He was not too small.

But you dont need so much experience to be a successful president.
What is needed is dedication, seriousness, sincerity, passion to achieve great things and have your own high rated legacy as president.

But he was too unserious to succeed as president.

Obasanjo brought a man just like himself as president.

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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by OlaMiki: 11:04am On Apr 27, 2017
Simple Reason:----Cause the massive treasury loots and failures of his govt that put us into this mess continue to hurt us endlessly. satanic amt are continually discovered and recovered daily, and they (corruption) keep fighting back not allowing us utilized these recovered stolen money in peace to forge ahead. So TELL UR GEJ and DISCIPLES OF FELLOW LOOTERS to let us be.
Nne5:
It's 2years and everybody's still talking Jonathan.
Omg
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by BABANGBALI: 11:08am On Apr 27, 2017
PapaBrowne:
There something about Jonathan that is somewhat legendary.
Can't really place it, but there's just something really unique about him
he is a master of failure grin
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by BABANGBALI: 11:09am On Apr 27, 2017
criminalmindz:
This shameless old man won't respect himself and quit politics . Obj nigeria is not your fathers inheritance. Your the must deceitful man in nigeria, full of lies, no shame. Please let Gej be, not all nigerians are fools we know who you really . Ur an agent of darkness , always mentioning God. How can a self acclaimed child of God build mosque and think he will make heaven. Obj and ameachi feel they are blessed children that's why the find fault in other humans. Obj is the most corrupt nigerian president. You were a failure in 76, failure in 99 , failure 2003. Nigeria is too big for you to be your personal property. Retire to otta and let Nigeria be. your not god, Enough is enough!

Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by BABANGBALI: 11:13am On Apr 27, 2017
SIRmanjar:
Mumu old man..I blame jonah for not jailing you.
jail who? Him wan die?
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by blackboy2star(m): 11:18am On Apr 27, 2017
It quoted Mrs. Jonathan as making a denigrating remark against Almajiri in the north, by saying “Our people no dey born children wey dem no dey count. Our men no dey born throw way for street; we no dey like people from the other side”, an apparent reference to the concept of Almajiri common in the north.

THIS GOT ME CRACKING... I MISS MAMA PEACE BEER PARLOR DISPLAY.. CHAAIII THERE'S GOD OOO cheesy
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by richard870(m): 11:18am On Apr 27, 2017
wirinet:

How can you call OBJ chief looter? That title should go to your hero GEJ. Compare how much was earned during OBJ's regime (1999 - 2007) and how much we earned during GEJ's regime (2010 - 2015) and you will realize that you hero wins the title hands down. Remember OBJ paid $16 billion cash to the Paris club to cancel our debts, hosted Commonwealth games including building a new stadium and left a reserve and excess crude account of close to $60 billion. Now, tell me what your hero did with much more money he earned. He spent over half of the savings left by OBJ and went on a the borrowing spree.
Jonathan has no rival in the world in terms of looting.
You are definitely a thot! Ask those who know about all the 'actions ' of Obj while in power.....u think say 8yrs in power is just to be addressed as Command in Chief? you are so wrong

I'm done jare!
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Oblang(m): 11:19am On Apr 27, 2017
2dugged:
one thing I have with old people is that they are allowed to be stupid and you can't correct them because they are older than you and society has mistakenly associated old age with wisdom, but in actual fact the older a person the more like the brain cells get weak, anyway, even jonathan disappointed me, he had the opportunity to put his name on a high pedestal especially to his people, and now we have a freelancer president, we have just been running round in circles since 1960,not one single former president you can boldly say meant well for Nigeria

Try look beyond ur nose, buhari meant well for Nigeria...
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by tete7000(m): 11:30am On Apr 27, 2017
PapaBrowne:
There something about Jonathan that is somewhat legendary.
Can't really place it, but there's just something really unique about him

Unlike other african leaders, he is not a power-monger. He didn't wield power as much as others would have done. Had he done that, he would have quashed all those opposing his re-election that he would just have a straight rerun into power. Obasanjo himself would have been a victim. By the standard of the society he lives, he gave too much away, trusted people to know what to do when given opportunity to serve and did little oversight probably out of naivety or in the belief that those who goes into office ought to be guided by tenets of their offices. In another climate, he might have made a reasonable president but judging from where we are, he is a contradiction. Display of absolute power is what makes you 'big enough' for the office. Crush all those who stand on the way of your ambition, deprive people of right to talk, harass people who oppose you with impugnity, hold tenaciously to power even at point of death and you will be praised as a great leader.

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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Koolking(m): 11:31am On Apr 27, 2017
divinehand2003:


Obasanjo in the book is quoted as saying that following Umaru Yar’Adua’s death in 2010, he endorsed Jonathan for the 2011 presidential election principally to solve the problems of minority agitation in Nigeria.

The former President said: “I saw the emergence of Jonathan as an opportunity to solve the problem of minority agitation. The three majority ethnic groups in Nigeria can always sort themselves out but not so for the minority. A good example is my state here in Ogun.

“Despite the best of intentions, nobody from Ogun West has been able to become governor because of this minority issue and it will take a conscious effort to make it happen. So, it was in the context of that I had to plead with prominent people in the North to allow Jonathan run for a term.”

I warned him not to make Diezani petroleum minister

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/04/jonathan-beginning-small-presidency-obasanjo/

Sheer attitude of an ingrate. You bit the finger that fed you, you are simply irredeemable. Jonathan dug his own grave. Obasanjo is a force to be reckoned with in the Nigerian political space whether you agree or not. He becomes an enigma if you downplay him.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by brojoshua: 11:37am On Apr 27, 2017
It's not really about age sir, it is that people don't fear God nor have regards for people and that they wicked and thieves, for if anyone or any leader fears God, God will give him wisdom to rule and excel even more than many old leaders.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by Elkay3: 11:44am On Apr 27, 2017
tete7000:


Unlike other african leaders, he is not a power-monger. He didn't wield power as much as others would have done. Had he done that, he would have quashed all those opposing his re-election that he would just have a straight rerun into power. Obasanjo himself would have been a victim. By the standard of the society he lives, he gave too much away, trusted people to know what to do when given opportunity to serve and did little oversight probably out of naivety or in the belief that those who goes into office ought to be guided by tenets of their offices. In another climate, he might have made a reasonable president but judging from where we are, he is a contradiction. Display of absolute power is what makes you 'big enough' for the office. Crush all those who stand on the way of your ambition, deprive people of right to talk, harass people who oppose you with impugnity, hold tenaciously to power even at point of death and you will be praised as a great leader.

I agree with your point. I've said it before, Jonathan was too gentle to rule Nigeria. He lost reelection chiefly because of the wrong people he surrounded himself with. While they were carting away billions, he was busy minding his gentility. That's what cheated him. He was meek and gentle, other times I would praise him for being so, but when it has to do with power of leadership, that is seen as weakness.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by ISTANDWITHBUHAR: 11:45am On Apr 27, 2017
Nne5:
It's 2years and everybody's still talking Jonathan.
Omg


Why do we have history?
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by franudi: 11:55am On Apr 27, 2017
Ehiscotch:
When I see people praising Jonathan I get very surprised. Really? I can't just fathom It.
Well, people never really tend to look beyond their noses.
I am even more surprise why people are still supporting buhari upon all this his visible failures.

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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by 41Naija: 11:56am On Apr 27, 2017
RantOut: Corrupted Corruption Corrupts...Absolutely
(Written in response to an argument about Jonathan being tagged weakling)

Okay, so Jonathan is a weakling...
Yes, Jonathan was weak on Boko Haram!
Yes, Jonathan's response was tasteless on Chibok girls!
Yes, Jonathan was a poor public speaker!
Yes, Jonathan failed in several aspects in his administration. ..

Yet, Jonathan was proudly a proud Nigerian. He showed we were not animals, he refused to treat us like animals. He valued Nigerian blood spilled, and didn't believe one drop was worth his reelection- he was David and the sweet well waters. He believed and tried to implement rule of law. He believed in the sanity of the Nigerian populace. He believed we did bad because the system made it easier to be bad than good- a system our colonial masters nurtured and sustained for their own maximum benefits.
His approach to corruption was also unique and smart... he didn't believe in punishing the offender as much as rejigging the system to prevent the thief. He knew stealing was a symptom of corruption, and not corruption itself. He knew once there is a way, there will always be a will. True, he allowed those who embezzled to spend the money within the country without much fear of persecution or prosecution. This led to brazen impunity by lots of office-holders, and a chop-and-come-chop atmosphere all around. This perpetuated the widespread image that his administration was very corrupt, but in fairness this resulted in less capital flight from the country and much more infrastructural developments.
Maybe this very policy pitted him at odds with Western nations who preferred that our politicians looted the country and stash away the monies in their own countries where it worked for their economies at the expense of ours. Then they'd whistle-blow the money if or when the owners(?) tried to withdraw them triggering investigations and allowing them to freeze the assets and liquid cash (Note: assets seized still generates revenue into their economy. Then we'd spend a million years doing a ratrace trying to get a refund which would come piecemeal-wise such that it would hardly make any meaningful impact in the economy. Also, you'd have to cut political deals with them to facilitate its success. I suspect that this was part of the jigsaw puzzle of why "they" helped evict him).
Anyways, for all the hues and cries of corruption, we had a better and growing economy than now.
Argue it with yourself, if that let's you sleep at night.

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Anyways, compare this to President Buhari's corruption fight, I feel sorry for us really. We Nigerians are so so used to propaganda at the expense of our welfare!
We love perception more than we love ourselves. We prefer a grand funerals to taking care of our elderly. We prioritize weddings over marriages, convocations over school fees, clothes over health. Our parents would rather firstly be more concerned about public views than their kid's welfare and health when a child gets pregnant, "Ahh, what will my neighbors say now? Now my enemies will rejoice! "
So little wonder it carried on to the national scene.
We don't mind destroying our economy to present to the world that we are less corrupt even tho recent discoveries show we only are recycling profiteers. We don't mind that present crop of politians will just start stealing the monies and taking them to offshore accounts and service is resumed for them overseas people while we obviously saw a decline in forex as a result of heavy-handed and equally heavily-selective fight against "corruption". After all, the goal is to look less "fantastically corrupt", not actually become less corrupt. What's being hungry when some oyinbos can say we are less corrupt na? Small thing! What's hunger when there is a well fed propaganda machine? Ask North Korea!

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Let me stop my rant soon jare... after all being pro-Jonathan earns one no love in the general public these days unless it's with some Ibos who are mostly just being racist and pained that they lost the central seat. Who supporting Jona don epp?

But I will still insist, GEJ with all his flaws, is a leader Nigeria does not deserve. We don't have a leadership problem as much as a followership problem, in my opinion, we deserve what we get. We deserve Buhari's change!

Kolabomi�

ADJOINER
In Nigerian parlance, a weakling is one who tries to implement changes through refined and intellectual means and not through fire-brigade methods. We prefer the "strong-man", the one that thinks, "My people are useless, my people are senseless, my people are indisciplined." We are like the spouse in an abusive relationship, we get our kick-ons from harsh words and hard knocks. Yes in truth, we have been long abused, by colonialist, by globalists and by local politicians alike, and hence we have become desensitized.
We are cows to a Fulani herdsman, we must be checked with hard measures, with the whip...
"KAI! Kai!
"WAI! Why?"
We have become mere animals, and some of us less so- kitchen animals, bedroom animals!

Kolabomi

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Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by franudi: 11:59am On Apr 27, 2017
rose54321:
Well Buhari too doesn't seem to be living up to expectations.
if it were Jonathan that requested to "work from home" , there would have been a massive protest in Lagos, the likes of Tinubu, Bakare, NLC, etc.
But for some odd reason every one is forming deaf and dumb.

They should not worry, Nigerians are watching. Come 2019 we will vote for KOWA.
True talk my brother.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by iukpe: 12:02pm On Apr 27, 2017
Obasanjo! Obasanjo!! Obasanjo!!!
And you arranged his presidency which came to pass,...
You wasted the time of Nigerians just for regional or personal gains.

The youths of this country are too lazy compared to your time because they have been bought over and sold out their future. Youths cannot still take control, like in your days when unhappy youths simply staged a military coup.

Lazy or coward youths of today don't have a determination to control their destiny else they will tell you old bags who their next president should be.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by tete7000(m): 12:04pm On Apr 27, 2017
Elkay3:


I agree with your point. I've said it before, Jonathan was too gentle to rule Nigeria. He lost reelection chiefly because of the wrong people he surrounded himself with. While they were carting away billions, he was busy minding his gentility. That's what cheated him. He was meek and gentle, other times I would praise him for being so, but when it has to do with power of leadership, that is seen as weakness.


He is no doubt weak!
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by aribisala0(m): 12:14pm On Apr 27, 2017
tete7000:


Unlike other african leaders, he is not a power-monger. He didn't wield power as much as others would have done. Had he done that, he would have quashed all those opposing his re-election that he would just have a straight rerun into power. Obasanjo himself would have been a victim. By the standard of the society he lives, he gave too much away, trusted people to know what to do when given opportunity to serve and did little oversight probably out of naivety or in the belief that those who goes into office ought to be guided by tenets of their offices. In another climate, he might have made a reasonable president but judging from where we are, he is a contradiction. Display of absolute power is what makes you 'big enough' for the office. Crush all those who stand on the way of your ambition, deprive people of right to talk, harass people who oppose you with impugnity, hold tenaciously to power even at point of death and you will be praised as a great leader.
He is a minority who are the soldiers he was going to use to rig election? Tompolo?
Which civilian has successfully rigged elections in Nigeria and not been overthrown?
Balewa, Shagari ?.?? who were Northerners by the way. Maybe you are one of those who believe appointing Minimah means control of the Army.
Two things are needed to successfully rig elections and not be killed
control of the Army which he could not have as an I jaw minority and US support which he lost.John Kerry came to Nigeria to warn him and the rest is history. He did not even have the structure to rig elections
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by monex(m): 12:18pm On Apr 27, 2017
omenkaLives:
If only you took two seconds to read the article, you would have understood that was a quote from a book and not something that was just said.

We all knew the buffoon wasnt even competent to lead his immediate family, let alone a country.

That aside, there's nothing wrong in talking about him to this day; after all, the consequences of his catastrophic leadership still dwell with us as we speak.
true. afterall we still talk about abacha
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by tete7000(m): 12:23pm On Apr 27, 2017
aribisala0:

He is a minority who are the soldiers he was going to use to rig election? Tompolo?
Which civilian has successfully rigged elections in Nigeria and not been overthrown?
Balewa, Shagari ?.?? who were Northerners by the way. Maybe you are one of those who believe appointing Minimah means control of the Army.
Two things are needed to successfully rig elections and not be killed
control of the Army which he could not have as an I jaw minority and US support which he lost.John Kerry came to Nigeria to warn him and the rest is history. He did not even have the structure to rig elections


Its not about rigging, it is about exercising enough control over every element of government from the day-go that when election time arrives your chances are almost certainly secured. Jonathan left too many open and loose end while he governed. He allowed people short-changed him. He had power but didn't know what to do with it. However for our democracy to thrive, I always believe it is good we had a Jonathan when we had him.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by rose54321: 12:24pm On Apr 27, 2017
Businessideas:

Seriously no party can dislodge the two big parties unless money plays less significant roles in election.Which one do you prefer? a Buhari working from home and giving results or a GEJ working round the clock to keep our national vault open to the yam- eaters?

None of the above, Nigerians are tired of receiving less.
Besides I don't see the "results" you are taking about.
If the average man cannot feel the so called "positive change" then something is wrong somewhere.
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by wexyee: 12:31pm On Apr 27, 2017
Nne5:
It's 2years and everybody's still talking Jonathan.
Omg
ιғ тнe ιdιoт нad ĸepт нιѕ мoυтн ѕнoт тнιѕ won'т вe happening
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by aribisala0(m): 12:33pm On Apr 27, 2017
tete7000:



Its not about rigging, it is about exercising enough control over every element of government from the day-go that when election time arrives your chances are almost certainly secured. Jonathan left too many open and loose end while he governed. He allowed people short-changed him. He had power but didn't know what to do with it. However for our democracy to thrive, I always believe it is good we had a Jonathan when we had him.
Well if it is not about rigging why blame him that is democracy for you.He won the first election. He did his best and people change get him.Is everyone who loses election ""weak"? Stop speaking from both sides of your mouth. Jonathan lost to a very large extent for ethnicity reasons
Re: Jonathan, From Beginning, Was Too Small For The Presidency – Obasanjo by cohug: 12:35pm On Apr 27, 2017
ppl are so foolish in this country that they cant speak the truth when its right in front of them. for OBJ, why is he telling us that Jona is too small, had he gotten what he wanted from Jona, he would have been singing another music now. If OBJ really like Bubu, he shud tell him to resign and nurse his health, than him working from home. VP Osibaba is capable of continueing the so called good work of Bubu, and OBJ shud sht the fuk up as he is not better, he shud stop adding more pains to Naijas, he shud provide better solutions, thats wat cabals does.笨蛋 ！

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