iamord:
school of thought. do you know that Ghana had More millionaires in achempobg time than in Rawlings. this is not to criticize​ the house cleaning exercise but I think was a lot of witch hunting that could have been avoided in the process. there were great Ghanaian owned companies that should have been sustained till now. am talking about the likes of rothmans cigrattes, the first cigratte company in West Africa.I bet people dont know that this brand was owed by a Ghanaian before he got his property conifscated. and sold off to bat.the nsawam cannery etc. I think in the process of the house cleaning he damages the entepreneurial spirit of well meaning Ghanaians to an extent

it's the reason why today, Ghanaians hardly declare their wealth. It's very difficult knowing who owns what company, in Ghana.

freshest4live:

Lol, the problem is that in the case of Nigeria the British gave this people power, they dominate the military, how many can you kill? The Hausas are a major ethnic group in Nigeria,like the Yoruba's and Igbo's, all three are majority.
Many of us seek restructuring , some seek secession. It's so bad that Islamic nations now invite Nigeria for islamic sports and many believe we are an Islamic nation not secular.

Can restructuring really work? How do you see it working?

freshest4live:

Lol, the problem is that in the case of Nigeria the British gave this people power, they dominate the military, how many can you kill? The Hausas are a major ethnic group in Nigeria,like the Yoruba's and Igbo's, all three are majority.
Many of us seek restructuring, some seek secession. It's so bad that Islamic nations now invite Nigeria for islamic sports and many believe we are an Islamic nation not secular

Why won't they?
After all, 12 Northern states use sharia.

vaxx:
i will not be able to talk on kenya . But i will with ghana . Let do the analyse southern nigeria will consist of both 6 yoruba state , 5 igbo land 5 niger delta including akwa ibom and cross river while greater accra ,central region ,ashanti region and brongh ahafo region will be consider southern assuming ghana run a federal system. This region will still out perform nigeria southern state becuse it host most of ghana development. Why nigeria major development spread across the south ,north central and middle belt. Ghana too has a northern part ,upper east ,and upper west which i will say contribute to her lower ranking in HDI. This regions suffer major set back. There is community crisis ,riot and a national domestic violence where widows are camp as a witch in （Gambaga）.infact nigeria north is far develop than ghana north.

Nigeria's infrastructural development is only somehow evenly-spread because northerners have so much power politically in Nigeria unlike northerners in GH.


Southern Nigeria will always beat Southern Ghana or at least equal Southern Ghana because in Ghana, the muslim northerners are minorities, so, there is no way their backwardness will affect Southern Ghana compared to Nigeria where the muslim north seem to be the majority.

Take Nigerian youth literacy rate for instance, the national average is estimated at 72%, but do you know that in all the Southern states it is about 95%?

National extreme poverty rate in Nigeria is about 33%, but do u know that a state like Lagos state has only about 5% or less living in extreme poverty?

Can you see the drastic difference?

This is exactly the way other index statistics are affected as soon as you average Nigeria.
So, if you use any national index statistic of Nigeria to judge southern Nigeria, you would be making the most terrible mistake.
The gap is too wide.

Is there any part of Southern Ghana with 5% or below living in extreme poverty??

TayserMahiri:



So you simply took two distinct regions and divided them further later on? That was bad calculations

I don't get u

TayserMahiri:



You use hit men! The state is not involved in any way

And what if the secret is exposed?

Nigerian muslim northerners are the smartest people you can think of even with their illiteracy.Especially when it comes to issues affecting them.

They can start riots even for issues that have no causes. There are some things that are too embarrassing for me to say here. You just will not understand.

Christians have been attacked and killed in their numbers in northern Nigeria because of cartoons insulting prophet Mohammed in far away Denmark.

TayserMahiri:


Can restructuring really work? How do you see it working?

Restructuring can only work if all Southern and middlebelt-northern Nigerian legislators unite as one and forcefully demand for it.
Otherwise, core-northerners are averse to it.

That unity is what may never come! because even the Southerners cannot unite themselves let alone wooing those of us in the middlebelt-North to join them.

Muafrika2:

God forbid !!

Please God, don't forbid that

PissedYagami what is your problem with Somalis? Don't act like other Kenyan tribes don't have a superiority complex. In Africa, everyone is proud of their tribe and are full of themselves. Why single out Somalis?

Nowenuse:
@Ishalbash

You will agree with me that this northern culture of manyan mutane & talakawa (rich & poor) is killing northern Nigeria.

Southerners are developing a very strong and viable middle-class population. And you can see the way they are dominating most sectors of the country apart from politics. Rich northerners have been the problem of the north as they seem to be very uninterested in developing the northern masses.
I am not against religion but it bleeds my heart to see Zamfara or Bauchi state governments organising Koranic recitation competitions and building more mosques whereas you will never find them organizing science and learning competitions, skill acquisition programs for the youth or building schools.

Kudos to northern governors like Ibrahim Dankwambo of Gombe state for changing that destructive mentality of most northern leaders.

You can clearly see that the middlebelt people are rapidly leaving that destructive culture, by embracing education more and if the core-northerners do not catch up, both the core-north and middlebelt will be forever divided.

One thing that most northern leaders do not know is that evil always backfires.
The more these northern leaders keep on leaving their people in backwardness and the Southerners get wealthier, the more the poorer northerners will keep on migrating to the South for greener pastures. Southerners will keep on using northerners as 'slaves'. It is already happening.

By the time all the indigenes of northern states have left to the South, who will these northern leaders rule??
Southern states will keep on having a higer Internal revenue and that 'Southernization' or Southern acculturization of Nigeria which northern leaders have been trying to fight since the time of the Sardauna will still take place!

What can you say about this?

This is what I hv bn saying since. Those people organising d stuff r dsame people calling us Yan bidi'a( people of innovation) and odas infidel/kufur as long as u r not part of Dem. They r d fanatics I having bn talking abt. When we celebrate maulud( d prophet birth) they say; we r doing our own version of Christmas. During maulud, u give out food and drinks to people, but during dere own type of bidi'a, they gv smal nd collect more



These people r hypocrites...they r doing it for dere selfish interest nt for d masses, but d gullible masses won't see that. You will Neva see Dem organising science or oda fields competition or building schools wit d monies they r looting rather deceiving Dem with Islamic bla bla even if it does not concerns Islam. They will kip building mosques to breed almajiris instead of schools to groom Dem for d future, besides it won't stops u from studying Arabic or Islamic studies. D funny part is dat; most of Dem don't even know what dey r reciting...na just cram cram notin else.




They r quick to criticize u wen u speak but will keep mute when almajiris r roaming every nooks nd crannies of d north without even helping Dem wit food and clothes while dere children schooled abroad wit empty head...they r just dere flexing not studying like Baba pikin( I no call name o!)



D only soln is to educate ur children on ur own, besides, r sum good public skuls. When d child has passion for education, he will excel anywhere. I Neva pay skul fees before apart from when I dey nursery 2,3 and pry 1&2. I attended a public school... I know am not too bad

Isahalbash:



I didn't come to Lagos, I was born here.



To be frank, it's impossible for now cos schools in d rural areas and some small urban areas have quack teachers with empty head. U will see students' from snr sec schools dat r supposed to be in pry 4 coz dey know notin. How can a blind man lead anoda blind man to d river? I know most people in my town are schooling especially d ladies, daz y d place node sweet cox girls scarce I swear


There was a day my nephew texted my elder bro, if u see d msg, u go plank d idiot head. I tink d boarding schools r beta dere( I can't attend sha), because of people from different background and d govt wud employed qualified tchas. Those dat attend private skuls r beta even here in Lagos maybe because of dere low population, but dere problem is " exam malpractice" during WAEC.


If qualified teachers can be employed, I tink those from d rural areas could Mk progress, hence, reduce illiteracy rates. Its obvious, people frm d rural areas constitute d highest number of illiterates in any society. Tank God d young people from my part of d State, have passion for western education.

Hmm, i see. Your parents must have been the ones who came to Lagos. Or not?

I find it very embarrassing that you and i (the only northerners) who are active on this thread are a product of Southern environment/upbringing. Is this not exactly what am saying?

Exactly, this issue of unqualified teachers is the main problem. You can imagine that most of those Chibok girls in SS3 writing waec could not speak English.
People are taught in Hausa in many rural and semi urban secondary schools in the north, let alone primary schools.

But one thing i have observed about core-northerners is that they seem to develop with urbanization. Or am i wrong?
See places like Kano and northern Kaduna. They are doing considerably better educationally than other core-northerners. These are the only places you can find a somewhat active middle-class population in the core-north. Or not?

Nowenuse:


Hmm, i see. Your parents must have been the ones who came to Lagos. Or not?

I find it very embarrassing that you and i (the only northerners) who are active on this thread are a product of Southern environment/upbringing. Is this not exactly what am saying?

Exactly, this issue of unqualified teachers is the main problem. You can imagine that most of those Chibok girls in SS3 writing waec could not speak English.
People are taught in Hausa in many rural and semi urban secondary schools in the north, let alone primary schools.

But one thing i have observed about core-northerners is that they seem to develop with urbanization. Or am i wrong?
See places like Kano and northern Kaduna. They are doing considerably better educationally than other core-northerners. These are the only places you can find a somewhat active middle-class population in the core-north. Or not?

You are absolutely right. The northerners r not dull, most of Dem are just unfortunate. When it cums to education d yorubas lead, but u will still find some not bn amble to continue schooling cos they can't cope. I swear I thought yorubas r not brilliant bfore until I started seeing news on nl where yorubas r performing wonders



Those in my set r too dull for my liking.

Nowenuse:


Hmm, i see. Your parents must have been the ones who came to Lagos. Or not?

I find it very embarrassing that you and i (the only northerners) who are active on this thread are a product of Southern environment/upbringing. Is this not exactly what am saying?

Exactly, this issue of unqualified teachers is the main problem. You can imagine that most of those Chibok girls in SS3 writing waec could not speak English.
People are taught in Hausa in many rural and semi urban secondary schools in the north, let alone primary schools.

But one thing i have observed about core-northerners is that they seem to develop with urbanization. Or am i wrong?
See places like Kano and northern Kaduna. They are doing considerably better educationally than other core-northerners. These are the only places you can find a somewhat active middle-class population in the core-north. Or not?

Those guys from Kano r really brilliant. They r outshining d kd guys that tink they beta in western education, especially, frm d faculty of engineering.

ababda:


Most Sudanese are "Nile Valley" people. Yes, some arabs and in some cases Turkish people mixed, but it is not the majority. Most northern Sudanese are indistinguishable from many people from the horn, and Upper Egypt. If you look at the Christian frescoes it still resemble the vast majority of the people.

This is before islam became the dominant religion, you will see these Christian frescoes at the second floor of the national museum in Khartoum















Sudanese reporter BBC Zeineb Badawi








Your last statement i never heard a South Sudanese say that, if the country in the north supposedly belong to them why did they overwhelmingly voted for separation?

How is the Nile River situation with everyone vying for it and South Sudan joining in the mix?

mtis:
So most of Africa Americans (AA natives ) originated from west africa ?

Some are from Central as well. A few also came from Zanzibar and Mozambique

Muafrika2:

Its a mystery. Could be the invasion of Arabs in the North that pushed other Africans who pushed others further down.

I thought Bantus spread before the Arabs? I am confused about their expansion. Some claimed it was peaceful and other claim entire ethnic groups in Southern Africa were almost wiped out.

MtuMsuper:

South Sudan! A very difficult and disappointing bunch! Instead of focusing on how to develop, and having a 50 year advantage of learning from the mistakes of other countries in Africa , they choose stupid tribal war as the opening song to their story. They are just epically disappointing!

In their defense, their seperation wasn't powered by them but instigated by Western Countries like USA. Look how fast foreign companies are grabbing up land in South Sudan! South Sudan's politicians have to be the the most corrupt of the corrupt. Don't blame the peoplw who are largely innocent.

Hati13:

Oh, I didn't know about it. But during prophet days, there was no Abyssinia, rather Axum. Abyssinian empire started after 1270 A.D.

When was Auxum founded? I need to school these Somalis who claim Auxum

uzzyfire:
dude Nigerians don't hate Kenya or envy, stop deluding ursef.

that's like saying america hates or is jealous of Cuba

I'm sorry but this made me laugh . BTW Cuba has huge benefits as far as education and educational benefits. My dad wanted to finish Medical School there. Cuba also suffers less from racism because everyone there is equal under communism.
It's also very pretty lol its just outdated.
If Nigeria can reach Cuba's status

mtis:

noo no..i saw guys from a poo country migrating to better country...kenya vs Nigeria

Cuba is actually a decent country just outdated. With Cuba opening up and if it becomes less of a totalitarian countr it will be a force to reckon with.

Kenyanstar:


Stop beating around the bush with all those theories you are trying to propagate. Nigerians are risking their lives mainly because they feel their country doesnt have anything better to offer apart from the corruption, lethargic leadership and basically near zero basic infrastructure. What is the ratio of Ghanaians that have immigrated to other countries in comparison to Nigerians

High lol who told you Ghana doesn't suffer from brain drain?
BTW the top then countries for Brain Drain are...
Ethiopia
Nigeria
Kenya
India
China and ect
BTW here

TayserMahiri:



I thought you knew they export oil! Your statement is actually a stab at nigeria. We don't export oil and if we did we would be having a biiiig GDP. Just that we wouldn't be as bad as u and Cuba for your own people.

Objectively, Cuba is better than almost every African Country.

mtis:

jeez Hoover was black ??..the dude hated blacks like nothing...

No one knows for sure except rumours and a book that a woman who used to live next to him wrote
I don't think he was black but a mixed man who was white passing. He did everything to hide this apparently murdering his black family members.

mtis:

No sane Kenyan goes to work in India.but many indians are in kenya working..They see greener pasture in kenya .Same applies to Nigerians .You dont jump from stradent ship to sinking one.You jump from stranded one to a moving or powered one

More Indians are in Nigeria than Nigerians in India though so thats a weird comparison.

9jakool:

What kind of stuff are you interested in?

anything educative. Be really glad if you just gave me access to your Youtube subscription

mtis:

God gave you resources please use them wisely an stop blaming your predicament on other imaginery stuff.China is pulling hundreds of millions of its citizens from poverty do the same you got oil for pete's sake.

No offense, but why does everyone bring up oil? There are more countries that are bad that have oil than countries that were able to develop themselves with oil. Oil easily leads to corruption as seen with countries like Venezuela and Nigeria. For oil to be affective there has to be good and less corrupt leaders in charge as with the case of Dubai and UAE.

freshest4live:

Do well to improve your HDI and income per capita over Seychelles and Mauritius as well, till then you are not in a position to advice Naija, lol.

Seychelles has like 100,000 people. Are there even legitimate Natives there?

TayserMahiri:


Oga, who taught you Econ 101? You were obviously fooled that a bigger population is not an additional resource. You are simply trying to say that the largest economy in the world should have the least HDI. Brains are immeasurable resources, incomparable to oil and gold not to mention the market potential. India is very much expected to have a higher per capita than kenya and so is China and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they have both a higher HDI and per capita but nigeria? Only a higher per capita that obviously means not much

Ummmm I was taught in economics that smaller population countries tend to have higher living standards due to less population so less strain on resources and providing for everyone.
If I am wrong I'm going to yell at my economics teacher.
BTW I have a an Indian friend who has lived in both Kenya and India and she likes Kenya better.

vaxx:
it seems you are not getng it. bigger population can still perform better even with larger population. For example. Germany is more populated than uk and still hold a good HDI better than uk ,france in combine. Nigeria can perform better.she has a better chance than ghana and kenya in combine.

This is kind of dishonest. Germany and UK population are relatively in the same range.
The countries with the highest living standards in Europe are the ones with with the tiniest populations.
The ones with the most opportunities are the more popolous ones (ignoring tanking countries like Italy and France).
I agree Nigeria can do a lot better and has a lot of potential it's not utilizing.

freshest4live:

Lol l wonder o, even the south African population is about the same as that of Kenya, not so much difference, but southafrica has a GDP times five of that of Kenya.

South Africa is a lot older than Kenya and benefited from Europeans who built actual infrastructure. This is the reason why Southern Africa tends to have better infrastructure compared to Wesr or East.

TayserMahiri:


I haven't been to the Lewa Marathon. Have you? I know it is spectacular to run with in the wild.

Blood of Jesus I can't visit Kenya. I'm afraid of animals

9jakool:

I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

Can it be argued that the Arab Peninsula is technically still on the African Continental? Like look how close Yemen and Somalia is.

freshest4live:

Lol, assuming a strong nation from any region wanna conquer Africa beginning from their region, Ethiopia would stroll through East Africa, with uganda and kenya resisting to no avail, but in the North there is Egypt with an army funded by the U.S, and then Algeria. In the South there is South Africa who faces no threat from their region. Angola with oil money and a stubborn Zimbabwe maybe, but both of these nations would be flattened by southafrica in a matter of days.
In central Africa, Congo should lead Cameroon but both combined stand no chance whatsoever.
In the west, Benin, Chad and Niger would surrender before the battle even begins.
Hmm in the context of an African take over by any country or group of countries without allies outside Africa, it would be bloody and there may likely be no victor. Just thinking for fun though, lol.

Hypothetical scenario that will be a lot more interesting.
Which alliances of African Nations ( only 3) would have the best chance of conquering the African Continent?