The coupists said they wanted to make Awolowo Prime Minister. What's your reaction to that? Don't run away.

coolscott:

ramdeuter
Don't mind these igbo people. Sometimes we don't know whether to ignore them or help them understand that humans are not as dumb as it seems they would have us be

That is the problem with Ibos they think they are smart and everyone else is foolish

Azikwe left North left East he wanted to become premier of the west claiming one Nigeria, when he lost, he forgot One Nigeria. he went to the east to chase away Ita Eyo

Ibo soldiers killed other regional leaders and spared theirs they claimed they want to make Awolowo a man in prison the leader

raumdeuter:


Azikwe President and deputy to Balewa On vacation
Okpara Premier of the East Hosting a guest who mustnt see blood
Osadebey Premier of the midwest, They forgot about him

Yet Ademulegun was killed with his pregnant wife in bed

these flat-heads re just too dumb , if namadi KANU can brainwashing some igbos to believe him as saviour I don't think they re different from illiterate almajaris being promised 72 virgins in heaven after blowing themselves.

igbodefender:
The coupists said they wanted to make Awolowo Prime Minister. What's your reaction to that? Don't run away.

Yes like when assasins come to your house kill your dad, uncle and elder brother and when police caught them, they said it was because they wanted to make you the head of the family

Dont run away from that

igbodefender:
The coupists said they wanted to make Awolowo Prime Minister. What's your reaction to that? Don't run away.

bros your brain needs total cleansing from spirit of dumbness and foolishness

@ raumdeuter

If your last post was an evil wish, may it bounce back to sender IJN.

igbodefender:
If that was an evil wish, may it bounce back to sender IJN.

So e no dey sweet you again, WHen it was done to other people, you are telling us its not what it is, now it was wished on you and you are invoking IJN

This is an evil wish abi? Yet you are telling us an evil deed committed by your people is not an Ibo coup

SonofDevil:
bros your brain needs total cleansing from spirit of dumbness and foolishness

Your brain needs a total tsunamification from incapacitating hatred, a propensity to glide towards the inane and a predilection for jiggery-pockery.

raumdeuter:


So e no dey sweet you again, WHen it was done to other people, you are telling us its not what it is, now it was wished on you and you are invoking IJN

This is an evil wish abi? Yet you are telling us an evil deed committed by your people is not an Ibo coup

If someone comes and blames you for something you didn't do, how will you feel?

igbodefender:
But the coupists said they wanted to make Awolowo Prime Minister.

In rural sociology, my Igbo lecturers taught me that there is verbal communication and non-verbal communication, and that we should believe non-verbal above verbal.

The Dr. said verbal utterrances should have only a 30% influence on what we inferr, and non-verbal actions should account for 70% of the conclusions we come to when dealing with people.

Finally, we were taught in that Rural Sociology and Extension course that if verbal and non verbal communication seem to be in direct conflict with each other, we should completely ignore all that is said verbally, and go with the action (i.e non-verbal) pointers to what the sought truth of the matter is.

In this case, I need not tell you what this leads every observer to believe about what was being said by the coupists at the time, and what they actually did.

coolscott:

In rural sociology, my Igbo lecturers taught me that there is verbal communication and non-verbal communication, and that we should believe non-verbal above verbal.

The Dr. said verbal utterrances should have only a 30% influence on what we inferr, and non-verbal actions should account for 70% of the conclusions we come to when dealing with people.

Finally, we were taught in that Rural Sociology and Extension course that if verbal and non verbal communication seem to be in direct conflict with each other, we should completely ignore all that is said verbally, and go with the action (i.e non-verbal) pointers to what the sought truth of the matter is.

In this case, I need not tell you what this leads every observer to believe about what was being said by the coupists at the time, and what they actually did.

Perhaps, you are putting words into the mouth of the dead. Coups are painful for everyone.

igbodefender:
If someone comes and blames you for something you didn't do, how will you feel?

Ifeajuna an Iboman killed Balewa
Nwobosi an Ibo man killed Akintola
Nzeogwu an Ibo man killed Bello
Anuforo an Ibo man killed Okotie Eboh
Onwuateugwu an Ibo man killed Ademulegun

igbodefender:


Perhaps, you are putting words into the mouth of the dead. Coups are painful for everyone.

You mean its painful when your people kill others?

raumdeuter:


You mean its painful when your people kill others?

Could you please rephrase the question?

victorDanladi:
There are many lies that cant be discredited in Nigeria.

1.That Igbo(s) can do anything for money, are chest beaters and criminalistic-Every tribe has its own greedy people and criminals and every tribe chestbeat about one thing or the other.

2.That fulanis are born to rule

3.That yorubas are coward,hypocritical and betrayal-majority of Nigerian human right activities are yoruba.Yorubas actually stopped the fulanis from advancing to the south at Odo-otin courtesy of Ibadan worriors.Do you know why Adekunle fajuyi has to die with Agui ironsi.On betrayal,yoruba never had any convenant with anybody.

4.That the first coup is Igbo coup.

5.That the norths are babaric especially the fulanis

6.That there is one islamization Agenda somewhere.

All the aboves are lies that no matter how hard you try to convince some people,they will still hold the belief may be out of bigotry.

This is an idiotic stream of thought without conditions. The historic facts about Nigeria has proven otherwise. Yari.ba are known for monetary ritualism. They will even deny the murder of their son in order to secure monetary position. Nigeria has group of people who have shamelessly gone to war because of money.

igbodefender:


These are some known facts about the coup that answers some of your questions:

"On January 15, 1966, the army struck and turned the weapons which we issued to
them to defend the country, on the government and the leaders that issued the weapons to
them. In the process, they killed the Prime minister of the country; they killed the premier of the
West; they killed the premier of the North.

"They were about to kill the premier of the East but what saved Dr Michael Okpara was that Archbishop Macarious, the president of Cyprus, was his guest that night and probably they wouldn’t want war between Cyprus and Nigeria.

"On the other hand they could not kill Chief Dennis Osadebey because there was no Army in
Benin at the time of the coup and so Osadebey managed to escape. They also killed Chief
Festus Okotie-Eboh, the Federal Minister of Finance. They also killed some members of their
own group. For example, Brigadier Maimalari was innocently killed. My close friend, Colonel
Arthur Unegbe was also killed.

"I wouldn’t say I knew the intention of the boys who took over government because
Ademulegun and other Yoruba officers never admitted that it was an Igbo coup. It only
happened that there were more Igbo officers involved in the coup because there were so many (70%?) Igbo officers in the army at that time ( most of the rank and file were not Igbo)."
-Mbazulike Amaechi
source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/january-15-1966-coup-why-they-called-it-an-igbo-coup-mbazulike-amechi/

that is not even remotely close to answering the question: why were the killers Ibos, and the victims are non-Ibos i.e. only Premier of Western, and Northern region were killed.
Care to give a realistic (as in believable) explanation as to how the Ibo politicians and military somehow escaped? How come the coup plotters were not court-martialed immediately another Ibo officer took over government?
You all are crying marginalization now, but forgetting that you drew the first blood.

raumdeuter:


Yes like when assasins come to your house kill your dad, uncle and elder brother and when police caught them, they said it was because they wanted to make you the head of the family

Dont run away from that

spot on!!!

Dedetwo:


This is an idiotic stream of thought without conditions. The historic facts about Nigeria has proven otherwise. Yari.ba are known for monetary ritualism. They will even deny the murder of their son in order to secure monetary position. Nigeria has group of people who have shamelessly gone to war because of money.

The greatest money ritual in Nigerian history was by Chief Vincent Duru aka Otokoto who killed Ikechukwu for rituals
http://punchng.com/otokoto-ritual-murder-convict-hanged-20-years-crime/

The greatest ritual site in Nigeria is still Okija shrine and Clifford orji is still an ibo man

rosebowl01:


that is not even remotely close to answering the question: why were the killers Ibos, and the victims are non-Ibos i.e. only Premier of Western, and Northern region were killed.
Care to give a realistic (as in believable) explanation as to how the Ibo politicians and military somehow escaped? How come the coup plotters were not court-martialed immediately another Ibo officer took over government?
You all are crying marginalization now, but forgetting that you drew the first blood.

I think the answer to your last question will clear the air on this. Are you ready?

igbodefender:
Could you please rephrase the question?

You said coups are painful to everyone, Tell us how killing non Ibo politicians is painful to Ibos

Can other ethnic group also kill Ibo politicians and spare theirs so that you can know the pain first hand?

bakynes:
There is nothing anybody can say to change the fact it was an Igbo coup, all indices is pointing towards that.

The questions are why was the Eastern region not under siege like the Northern and western region?

The plan of the coup plotters was to eliminate all Political and Senior military leaders in each region.

The Northern and Western leaders were eliminated except the east. This raises suspicion

Why were the Igbos mocking the death of Sir Ahmadu Bello in the North?.

Let us for a moment articulate the above crap as half truth, how many coups in Nigeria has been branded ethnical coup after January 15, 1966? It is a show lack of human intellect to cite one coup in Niger-Area as ethnical. Something is inhuman with such picture.

OAFMods:
With Kaduna Nzeogwu killing ahmadu bello, Ifeajuna killed Tafa balewa and Nwaobosi killing SL akintola. These daredevil criminals are indeed not Igbos
OP is this a part of history your Igbo lectures are too ashamed to lecture you on or what ?

There were 28 soldiers, including Nzeogwu, that went ahmadu bello's house on that faithfully night. Only 6 were Igbo.

rosebowl01:


spot on!!!

From your last statement, your objectivity on the issue at hand is doubted, so you have therefore forfeited the right to recieve a reply from us. We only discourse with scholars or people who can at least hide their bias behind a vineer of objectivity. This is a forum nit a market place.

Dedetwo:


Let us for a moment articulate the above crap as half truth, how many coups in Nigeria has been branded ethnical coup after January 15, 1966? It is a show lack of human intellect to cite one coup in Niger-Area as ethnical. Something is inhuman with such picture.

How many coups have 95% of the principal actors been from one side
95% ofThe victims NOT from their side
The succeeding officer from the side of the coupist(Like Ironsi)
And the succeeding officer refused to punish the coupists who were his tribesmen

Dedetwo:


There 28 soldiers, including Nzeogwu, that went ahmadu bello's house on that faithfully night. Only 6 were Igbo.

A new fact comes to light.

Dedetwo:


There 28 soldiers, including Nzeogwu, that went ahmadu bello's house on that faithfully night. Only 6 were Igbo.

Who were the leaders of each of the killing missions
for Bello, Balewa, Ademulegun, Sodeinde, Maimalari, Kur, Lagerma Akintola and Okotie-Eboh

rosebowl01:


that is not even remotely close to answering the question: why were the killers Ibos, and the victims are non-Ibos i.e. only Premier of Western, and Northern region were killed.
Care to give a realistic (as in believable) explanation as to how the Ibo politicians and military somehow escaped? How come the coup plotters were not court-martialed immediately another Ibo officer took over government?
You all are crying marginalization now, but forgetting that you drew the first blood.

Those who engaged in careless talk and foolish caricature of other ethnic groups in Nigeria were not Igbo. Bello and Akintola were known to indulged in childish and foolish speeches about other ethnic groups in Nigeria.

igbodefender:
A new fact comes to light.

”They (Sardauna and his wives) listened and rattled prayer beads in fear for an hour as Nzeogwu and his motivated mutineers booted down doors, pumped bullets into guards mounting resistance and shouted to others, “Ina Sardauna? Take us to the Sardauna.” It was dark, Sardauna and his wives went downstairs and into the courtyard connecting the annex and the main house. They were trying to escape.

”On finding them, Nzeogwu shot the Sardauna and his senior wife who was trying to protect him. He then blew a whistle which was the agreed signal for all soldiers to converge at the rallying point at the front gate for the final onslaught on their symbol of national decay.

Ironsi in his own words


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ2pcLO9HSc

raumdeuter:


How many coups have 95% of the principal actors been from one side
95% ofThe victims NOT from their side
The succeeding officer from the side of the coupist(Like Ironsi)
And the succeeding officer refused to punish the coupists who were his tribesmen

Go and do some research, my friend. Asking unnecessary questions. Answer the ones he asked before asking your own.

raumdeuter:


Who were the leaders of each of the killing missions
for Bello, Balewa, Ademulegun, Sodeinde, Maimalari, Kur, Lagerma Akintola and Okotie-Eboh

The soldiers were armed and outnumbered their leaders and would have started a mutiny if they were not interest in the leadership of their commanders. This is not boys scout. It is unfortunate that ninnies who have not seen a parade ground in their entire miserable lives tend to become experts in military issues on nairaland.

Dedetwo:


[s]Those who engaged in careless talk and foolish caricature of other ethnic groups in Nigeria were not Igbo. Bello and Akintola were known to indulged in childish and foolish speeches about other ethnic groups in Nigeria[/s].

Dede, go and sit down. Kastsumoto killed you several times over this issue.

igbodefender:
Go and do some research, my friend. Asking unnecessary questions. Answer the ones he asked before asking your own.

What were the questions you asked that havent been answered